Kenny Will Return as QB1 but Compete
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Kenny Will Return as QB1 but Compete
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Tomlin said Kenny Pickett will return as the QB1 but will definitely have competition. They want Rudolph to provide that but "he's a free agent."
12:10 PM · Jan 18, 2024
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Tomlin said Kenny Pickett will return as the QB1 but will definitely have competition. They want Rudolph to provide that but "he's a free agent."
12:10 PM · Jan 18, 2024
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Tomlin PC 1/2/19 -"Change is a part of it, I don't run away from that. My staff doesn't run away from that. I'm acknowledging that change is a part of what we're doing."
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Sounds like Mason is moving on.
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As long as we're acknowledging that Mitch ain't it.
Nothing left to do but smile, smile, smile...
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NBCsports slantTomlin noted in his interview that he would like Mason Rudolph to compete with Pickett for the Steelers’ QB1 job, but also pointed out that Rudolph is a free agent this offseason. The Steelers will likely make a push to re-sign Rudolph, but there’s no guarantee he will return to the team. With that said, a return to the Steelers in 2024 would be wise, as Rudolph played over a healthy Pickett in the AFC Wild Card loss to the Bills and has already received endorsements from several Steelers players, including wide receiver Diontae Johnson. Pickett has struggled in his first two seasons as a starter, throwing for 4,74-13-13 in 25 career games. Any legitimate competition between Pickett and another vet would likely result in Pickett opening Week 1 as the QB2 on the depth chart, but we are a long way from seeing how everything plays out. Whether Tomlin admits it or not, the Steelers are in quarterback purgatory until they find a way out of it.
Tomlin PC 1/2/19 -"Change is a part of it, I don't run away from that. My staff doesn't run away from that. I'm acknowledging that change is a part of what we're doing."
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If I'm Mason I've already got my agent making moves and my bags are packed.
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Biggest news out of that snoozer of a presser was that they will hire an outside OC
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Tomlin just said that "We want to continue doing business w/ Mason"
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yep, i added that blub in the OC thread. Sounded resigned that he has to or elseSteelperch wrote: ↑Thu Jan 18, 2024 5:39 pmBiggest news out of that snoozer of a presser was that they will hire an outside OC
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The combo of Tomlin and Kenny is a killer. Tomlin needs a star QB or at minimum a proven vet winner to overcome his poor strategy/tactics and OC incompetence. Kenny needs a star OC like Ben Johnson to scheme it up for him like he has for Goff. In theory Tomlin could solve this by hiring a star OC, but the second those guys are discovered they become HCs, so not gonna happen unless Tomlin takes a non Tomlin style risk and hires a QB coach or pass/run game coordinator from the Shanahan tree.
The two together can't get past second gear. Same goes for Mason.
So, with the Kenny comment in mind, either/or
- Add a QB with physical gifts in R1/2 in the upcoming draft or sign a proven vet like Cousins/Mayfield
- Go out of the Tomlin box with a young gun, mostly unproven OC
Kenny + Mason + 6th round flier in the draft + retread OC = . . . well, you know
The two together can't get past second gear. Same goes for Mason.
So, with the Kenny comment in mind, either/or
- Add a QB with physical gifts in R1/2 in the upcoming draft or sign a proven vet like Cousins/Mayfield
- Go out of the Tomlin box with a young gun, mostly unproven OC
Kenny + Mason + 6th round flier in the draft + retread OC = . . . well, you know
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Excited about new OC.
Hopefully Mason returns and he and KP8 battle it out.
Good luck to whoever wins but if neither show enough, get your QB very early in the 2025 draft.
Hopefully Mason returns and he and KP8 battle it out.
Good luck to whoever wins but if neither show enough, get your QB very early in the 2025 draft.
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Mason Rudolph profiles as everything the Steelers could hope for in a backup QB right now.
He’s responded well to adversity, his teammates like him, and he’s helped the team make the playoffs.
Anyone on this team now will always step up to fight alongside of him. There's no such thing as a “meaningless game” if he is lining up behind center.
Hope he sees his future the same way and wants more time in Pittsburgh.
He’s responded well to adversity, his teammates like him, and he’s helped the team make the playoffs.
Anyone on this team now will always step up to fight alongside of him. There's no such thing as a “meaningless game” if he is lining up behind center.
Hope he sees his future the same way and wants more time in Pittsburgh.
Shouldn't this have been done prior to last season???
Yet another in a long list of Coach Mike methodologies of coaching. Can't wait til he writes a book. Does he know how to read?
Yet another in a long list of Coach Mike methodologies of coaching. Can't wait til he writes a book. Does he know how to read?
"So, we have to proceed with caution, but when you’re pursuing greatness, risk-taking is a part of it. Calculated risk-taking. That’s what you’re talking about when you’re drawing up big plays schematically.”
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I like this postSteel Bingo wrote: ↑Thu Jan 18, 2024 6:06 pmMason Rudolph profiles as everything the Steelers could hope for in a backup QB right now.
He’s responded well to adversity, his teammates like him, and he’s helped the team make the playoffs.
Anyone on this team now will always step up to fight alongside of him. There's no such thing as a “meaningless game” if he is lining up behind center.
Hope he sees his future the same way and wants more time in Pittsburgh.
But
In weighing his options, first thing that should come to Mason’s mind is “They want me to compete with Pickett? Didn’t I just prove I’m WAY better than that guy?”
Then
He’ll chuckle and get overpaid to go play for another quarterback desperate team.
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Translation…Tomlin was ordered to do so because Art II realizes the fanbase would be coming with torches and pitchforks if he promoted from within again.Steelperch wrote: ↑Thu Jan 18, 2024 5:39 pmBiggest news out of that snoozer of a presser was that they will hire an outside OC
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Well, Coach decided that he wanted to bring back Canny even with all the mess he caused.
Maybe someone decided he's incapable of making decisions other than to blow kisses to the camera and pound his chest.
And ping pong tables.
Maybe someone decided he's incapable of making decisions other than to blow kisses to the camera and pound his chest.
And ping pong tables.
"So, we have to proceed with caution, but when you’re pursuing greatness, risk-taking is a part of it. Calculated risk-taking. That’s what you’re talking about when you’re drawing up big plays schematically.”
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Will you be excited if the OC is Byron Leftwich. Jibbs wants Yes men. He will never bring in someone who's smarter than himself and could challenge him. Tomlin will have his outdated footprints on the O.
Dunce needs to tell Jibbs not to interfere with the new OC IF he is a bright OC.
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I agree…if he gets he offers.Steeldrama wrote: ↑Thu Jan 18, 2024 6:58 pmI like this postSteel Bingo wrote: ↑Thu Jan 18, 2024 6:06 pmMason Rudolph profiles as everything the Steelers could hope for in a backup QB right now.
He’s responded well to adversity, his teammates like him, and he’s helped the team make the playoffs.
Anyone on this team now will always step up to fight alongside of him. There's no such thing as a “meaningless game” if he is lining up behind center.
Hope he sees his future the same way and wants more time in Pittsburgh.
But
In weighing his options, first thing that should come to Mason’s mind is “They want me to compete with Pickett? Didn’t I just prove I’m WAY better than that guy?”
Then
He’ll chuckle and get overpaid to go play for another quarterback desperate team.
But I see it this way. No, Mason is not “the guy”, but I think if we hired someone from the Lions’ staff and implemented a Lions-style offense, Mason could have a resurgence that would make him as good as Jared Goff.
And that would be a nice bridge while we try to find the next “guy”.
What bothers me about this is we reached for Kenny by mistake, because Tomlin made the misguided assumption that we needed a “mobile QB” to make Canada’s offense work. Why we picked up Mitch as well.
This was a mistake. Kenny was hobbled by Canada, but a lot of his faults are not something any coaching is going to fix.
The thing to do when you make a mistake is to ADMIT IT AS SOON AS POSSIBLE.
Letting Kenny stay to compete as QB1* is not admitting you made a mistake.
The longer you wait to fix the most important position on the team…the harder it will be to fix it.
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Yep. Ownership has spoken. No more Tomlin buddy buddy hires. Thank god.jeemie wrote: ↑Thu Jan 18, 2024 7:06 pmTranslation…Tomlin was ordered to do so because Art II realizes the fanbase would be coming with torches and pitchforks if he promoted from within again.Steelperch wrote: ↑Thu Jan 18, 2024 5:39 pmBiggest news out of that snoozer of a presser was that they will hire an outside OC
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Ha Ha. There's some truth to that. But, put Josh Allen on the Steelers this season and they would have a great chance to win it all, even with Tomlin and his band of yes men.
Lack of a QB exposes your weaknesses. a Great QB hides them. See Tomlin + Big Ben
It sounded to me like they will be scouting QBs in the draft. Now they aren't going to trade up. (Forget that pipe dream...this team has way too many holes.).
But could they take a 2nd round flier on someone like Bo Nix? Maybe.
But could they take a 2nd round flier on someone like Bo Nix? Maybe.
Why did Tomlin feel the need to even comment on it at this point in time?!?the-other-burg wrote: ↑Thu Jan 18, 2024 5:38 pmIf I'm Mason I've already got my agent making moves and my bags are packed.
Yep...deadly combination indeed....lifelongsteel wrote: ↑Thu Jan 18, 2024 5:49 pmThe combo of Tomlin and Kenny is a killer. Tomlin needs a star QB or at minimum a proven vet winner to overcome his poor strategy/tactics and OC incompetence. Kenny needs a star OC like Ben Johnson to scheme it up for him like he has for Goff. In theory Tomlin could solve this by hiring a star OC, but the second those guys are discovered they become HCs, so not gonna happen unless Tomlin takes a non Tomlin style risk and hires a QB coach or pass/run game coordinator from the Shanahan tree.
The two together can't get past second gear. Same goes for Mason.
So, with the Kenny comment in mind, either/or
- Add a QB with physical gifts in R1/2 in the upcoming draft or sign a proven vet like Cousins/Mayfield
- Go out of the Tomlin box with a young gun, mostly unproven OC
Kenny + Mason + 6th round flier in the draft + retread OC = . . . well, you know
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Let's see who the OC actually becomes before we hand Leftwich the keys.gojira5150 wrote: ↑Thu Jan 18, 2024 8:38 pmWill you be excited if the OC is Byron Leftwich. Jibbs wants Yes men. He will never bring in someone who's smarter than himself and could challenge him. Tomlin will have his outdated footprints on the O.
Dunce needs to tell Jibbs not to interfere with the new OC IF he is a bright OC.
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get ready for Pep Hamilton
Sure he will “compete”. I totally believe that.
Not.
Not.
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Tomlin is a lying sack of shit.
A good bet is that there is no competition.
A good bet is that there is no competition.
"So, we have to proceed with caution, but when you’re pursuing greatness, risk-taking is a part of it. Calculated risk-taking. That’s what you’re talking about when you’re drawing up big plays schematically.”
Tomlins audience in a nutshell.
Not capable of logical thinking.
How bout Tomlin doesn’t do anything but cheerlead and the other guys do all the work?
Good grief.
"So, we have to proceed with caution, but when you’re pursuing greatness, risk-taking is a part of it. Calculated risk-taking. That’s what you’re talking about when you’re drawing up big plays schematically.”