17 Years and.......

[Stosh-67]

Mike Tomlin and his staff come up empty in the clock management and time out department once again.
The elevator does not stop at this important floor.
Matter of fact.....should not need an elevator to get to the clock management and time out department.
Its on the ground floor......
Its in the basement.
Its a buildings foundation.



Down 21-7 in a must win game. last of the second quarter.
Every second counts....
There is no tomorrow.

1st and 10, Bills ball at their own 39.
48 seconds on the clock.
Steelers sack Josh back to the Bills 32....bringing on a 2nd and 17.
Clock after sack was still in the 40's, I want to say I was yelling time out and seeing the clock at :42 seconds
That's what my football instincts were telling me ....IN THE MOMENT.
FOOTBALL 101

At this point in the game.....the Steelers miraculously had all 3 time outs.
At this point , the Bills were up 21-7.
The Bills were also getting the ball to start the 3rd.
After the sack, they were content to get to the half.....they were not calling time out and did not.
They were in no hurry to get to the line.
They were most likely perplexed at the in action across the field.
Their punter had just pulled a hamstring.
Scrambling on the sidelines to see who may be punting.

Knowing all this.
Knowing its a do or die game in which every possession is......... "Life" ..."Fresh air" "Another......day " ( in my Christopher Walken voice )
Every last second matters....

You burn all 3 time outs.
You make them punt with 30 seconds or so on the clock.
Bad punt? Muffed Punt? Blocked punt?
Nice Return?
A pass or two to get into FG range.
A pass interference call?
A hail mary into the endzon?

NOTTA.
NOTHING.
WE CHOOSE DUMB ONCE AGAIN.

and we wait 38-40 seconds and ............"actually call a time out...with 2 seconds left.........once the stupid gene caught up with the football 101 instincts.

I guess it gave the Bills time to gather themselves to take a knee.....and laugh.

I do not care if a time out would have sparked Buffalo to try and move the ball.

1st & 10 at BUF 39
(0:48 - 2nd) (No Huddle, Shotgun) J.Allen sacked at BUF 32 for -7 yards (M.Golden).
2nd & 17 at BUF 32
(0:02 - 2nd) Timeout #1 by PIT at 00:02.
2nd & 17 at BUF 32
(0:02 - 2nd) D.Edwards reported in as eligible. J.Allen kneels to BUF 29 for -3 yards.
(0:00 - 2nd) END QUARTER 2

Hopefully its a learning tool and year 18 will show improvement.

[jeemie]

Remember the punter had just gotten injured too.

Now it turned out that even injured, he was a better punter than Harvin, but if you had made him punt right after the injury, maybe he doesn't do as well.

[Stosh-67]

Like I believe Greek said in one of his posts........

Tomlin has sucked the life out of my Steeler passion.....

[DumlinBumlinStumlin]

PLEASE RESPECT MY AUTHORITY !!!!

[franco>madden]

Great post as usual Stosh. 'Can't fix stupid' says the cliche, although you can fire the source of the stupid if, say, your team's owner has balls or isn't "stupid" himself, but here we are.

Yes, The Chief was a great fella, and my Dad was a 30-year season-ticket holder before the Steelers ever sniffed a championship -- but I challenge anyone to argue otherwise, that before or after Dan, there doesn't seem to be a member of the Rooney family that knew or knows anything about even getting close to winning an NFL championship.

Our team's wonderful 6th Lombardi was well deserved, but in hindsight, it appears obvious (to borrow a phrase) that winning Super Bowl 43 was an aberration --- a fantastic alignment of wild-ass good luck and the incredible combination of Ben + Santonio + Harrison, not --- as all the sports coverage at the time proclaimed --- the dawning of a new golden age of Steelerdom powered by a young, up-and-coming team, coach and ownership. The sheer talent and firepower of those great players kept the glow going for several more seasons, but each time increasingly falling shorter of ever scaling the peak again.

The intervening years have shown that the "great young" brain trust was an illusion. As Steeler fans, we have been and will continue to be screwed for the foreseeable future with the torture of ultimately mundane mediocrity.

To borrow another phrase, one of my least favorite quotes, ironically often used by Coach Cowher, "It is what it is."

[SteelPro]

The Steelers special teams, especially the kick blocking units, have been the best component of this team going back several seasons. Tomlin absolutely should have been prolonging the half to force the Bills to kick again. And that should have been the case regardless of the health of the Bills punter. They needed more big plays to turn this game.

[MJG75]

Yes, The Chief was a great fella, and my Dad was a 30-year season-ticket holder before the Steelers ever sniffed a championship -- but I challenge anyone to argue otherwise, that before or after Dan, there doesn't seem to be a member of the Rooney family that knew or knows anything about even getting close to winning an NFL championship.

Our team's wonderful 6th Lombardi was well deserved, but in hindsight, it appears obvious (to borrow a phrase) that winning Super Bowl 43 was an aberration --- a fantastic alignment of wild-ass good luck and the incredible combination of Ben + Santonio + Harrison, not --- as all the sports coverage at the time proclaimed --- the dawning of a new golden age of Steelerdom powered by a young, up-and-coming team, coach and ownership. The sheer talent and firepower of those great players kept the glow going for several more seasons, but each time increasingly falling shorter of ever scaling the peak again.

The intervening years have shown that the "great young" brain trust was an illusion. As Steeler fans, we have been and will continue to be screwed for the foreseeable future with the torture of ultimately mundane mediocrity.

To borrow another phrase, one of my least favorite quotes, ironically often used by Coach Cowher, "It is what it is."

The Chief was one of the most beloved persons in town largely because he remembered everyone, went to people's funerals, walked to games, in short, he was an old fashioned man about town. He knew practically nothing about football other than he could play it. He became universally loved during the 70s, of course. And the mythology was born, but the reality was just as you said: Dan Rooney. He was the Rooney who actually took the game seriously, started to look at it as the business it certainly was, and how could that business be successful, both in terms of finances and in terms of success on the gridiron, and Dan understood the two were linked at the hip.

At least Art Rooney Sr. had the folksy quality that made people forgive his ineptitude at football. Art II has none of that, along with not knowing much about football, seemingly, makes him one of the most unlikable Rooney's in my lifetime.

[Steelperch]

Like I believe Greek said in one of his posts........

Tomlin has sucked the life out of my Steeler passion.....

Same. And Rooney lowering the standard to non losing seasons and first round playoff exits lowered my standards as well. I celebrate the 9th win and the rest is just gravy. I have no expectations beyond the 9th win. That’s the goal, that’s the standard set.

[CoolShades]

Yes, The Chief was a great fella, and my Dad was a 30-year season-ticket holder before the Steelers ever sniffed a championship -- but I challenge anyone to argue otherwise, that before or after Dan, there doesn't seem to be a member of the Rooney family that knew or knows anything about even getting close to winning an NFL championship.

Our team's wonderful 6th Lombardi was well deserved, but in hindsight, it appears obvious (to borrow a phrase) that winning Super Bowl 43 was an aberration --- a fantastic alignment of wild-ass good luck and the incredible combination of Ben + Santonio + Harrison, not --- as all the sports coverage at the time proclaimed --- the dawning of a new golden age of Steelerdom powered by a young, up-and-coming team, coach and ownership. The sheer talent and firepower of those great players kept the glow going for several more seasons, but each time increasingly falling shorter of ever scaling the peak again.

The intervening years have shown that the "great young" brain trust was an illusion. As Steeler fans, we have been and will continue to be screwed for the foreseeable future with the torture of ultimately mundane mediocrity.

To borrow another phrase, one of my least favorite quotes, ironically often used by Coach Cowher, "It is what it is."

The Chief was one of the most beloved persons in town largely because he remembered everyone, went to people's funerals, walked to games, in short, he was an old fashioned man about town. He knew practically nothing about football other than he could play it. He became universally loved during the 70s, of course. And the mythology was born, but the reality was just as you said: Dan Rooney. He was the Rooney who actually took the game seriously, started to look at it as the business it certainly was, and how could that business be successful, both in terms of finances and in terms of success on the gridiron, and Dan understood the two were linked at the hip.

At least Art Rooney Sr. had the folksy quality that made people forgive his ineptitude at football. Art II has none of that, along with not knowing much about football, seemingly, makes him one of the most unlikable Rooney's in my lifetime.

Dan turned the franchise around, no doubt... but I believe he also hired Tomlin.

WTF was so special about Tomlin, anyway? A lifetime DB coach, who got the DC job in Minnesota for a single season, the team went 6-10, and a quick glance tells me the defense was mid. They were around 14th in points allowed.

I’ve never understood the Tomlin hire. He had shown nothing in his career trajectory. Three years as a college DB coach, 5 years as a DB coach with the Bucs, then Min DC and then he gets the Steelers gig? Why?

[gojira5150]

Yes, The Chief was a great fella, and my Dad was a 30-year season-ticket holder before the Steelers ever sniffed a championship -- but I challenge anyone to argue otherwise, that before or after Dan, there doesn't seem to be a member of the Rooney family that knew or knows anything about even getting close to winning an NFL championship.

Our team's wonderful 6th Lombardi was well deserved, but in hindsight, it appears obvious (to borrow a phrase) that winning Super Bowl 43 was an aberration --- a fantastic alignment of wild-ass good luck and the incredible combination of Ben + Santonio + Harrison, not --- as all the sports coverage at the time proclaimed --- the dawning of a new golden age of Steelerdom powered by a young, up-and-coming team, coach and ownership. The sheer talent and firepower of those great players kept the glow going for several more seasons, but each time increasingly falling shorter of ever scaling the peak again.

The intervening years have shown that the "great young" brain trust was an illusion. As Steeler fans, we have been and will continue to be screwed for the foreseeable future with the torture of ultimately mundane mediocrity.

To borrow another phrase, one of my least favorite quotes, ironically often used by Coach Cowher, "It is what it is."

The Chief was one of the most beloved persons in town largely because he remembered everyone, went to people's funerals, walked to games, in short, he was an old fashioned man about town. He knew practically nothing about football other than he could play it. He became universally loved during the 70s, of course. And the mythology was born, but the reality was just as you said: Dan Rooney. He was the Rooney who actually took the game seriously, started to look at it as the business it certainly was, and how could that business be successful, both in terms of finances and in terms of success on the gridiron, and Dan understood the two were linked at the hip.

At least Art Rooney Sr. had the folksy quality that made people forgive his ineptitude at football. Art II has none of that, along with not knowing much about football, seemingly, makes him one of the most unlikable Rooney's in my lifetime.

Dan turned the franchise around, no doubt... but I believe he also hired Tomlin.

WTF was so special about Tomlin, anyway? A lifetime DB coach, who got the DC job in Minnesota for a single season, the team went 6-10, and a quick glance tells me the defense was mid. They were around 14th in points allowed.

I’ve never understood the Tomlin hire. He had shown nothing in his career trajectory. Three years as a college DB coach, 5 years as a DB coach with the Bucs, then Min DC and then he gets the Steelers gig? Why?

Rooney Rule. Ever heard of it.

[Greeksteel]

I also remember that exact moment, i think i almost had a stroke while screaming "call a timeout asshole"

Zero confidence in Tomlin turning this franchise around and making us proud of this team again. Its been a decade long gong show. Same mistakes and low standards over and over again, wash, rinse and repeat, and then being told how lucky we are to have this HC. WTF how do we get out of this spin cycle?? Boys, cancel those seats, send that letter, make some calls, do whatever it takes, that stadium needs to be empty to get this buffoon out of here.

We are literally bracing ourselves for the next shit sandwich to be served to us.... the Tomlin contract extension,

Passion sucked right out of us indeed.

[Works At A Bank]

Yes, The Chief was a great fella, and my Dad was a 30-year season-ticket holder before the Steelers ever sniffed a championship -- but I challenge anyone to argue otherwise, that before or after Dan, there doesn't seem to be a member of the Rooney family that knew or knows anything about even getting close to winning an NFL championship.

Our team's wonderful 6th Lombardi was well deserved, but in hindsight, it appears obvious (to borrow a phrase) that winning Super Bowl 43 was an aberration --- a fantastic alignment of wild-ass good luck and the incredible combination of Ben + Santonio + Harrison, not --- as all the sports coverage at the time proclaimed --- the dawning of a new golden age of Steelerdom powered by a young, up-and-coming team, coach and ownership. The sheer talent and firepower of those great players kept the glow going for several more seasons, but each time increasingly falling shorter of ever scaling the peak again.

The intervening years have shown that the "great young" brain trust was an illusion. As Steeler fans, we have been and will continue to be screwed for the foreseeable future with the torture of ultimately mundane mediocrity.

To borrow another phrase, one of my least favorite quotes, ironically often used by Coach Cowher, "It is what it is."

The Chief was one of the most beloved persons in town largely because he remembered everyone, went to people's funerals, walked to games, in short, he was an old fashioned man about town. He knew practically nothing about football other than he could play it. He became universally loved during the 70s, of course. And the mythology was born, but the reality was just as you said: Dan Rooney. He was the Rooney who actually took the game seriously, started to look at it as the business it certainly was, and how could that business be successful, both in terms of finances and in terms of success on the gridiron, and Dan understood the two were linked at the hip.

At least Art Rooney Sr. had the folksy quality that made people forgive his ineptitude at football. Art II has none of that, along with not knowing much about football, seemingly, makes him one of the most unlikable Rooney's in my lifetime.

Dan turned the franchise around, no doubt... but I believe he also hired Tomlin.

WTF was so special about Tomlin, anyway? A lifetime DB coach, who got the DC job in Minnesota for a single season, the team went 6-10, and a quick glance tells me the defense was mid. They were around 14th in points allowed.

I’ve never understood the Tomlin hire. He had shown nothing in his career trajectory. Three years as a college DB coach, 5 years as a DB coach with the Bucs, then Min DC and then he gets the Steelers gig? Why?

Wanted to take the Rooney Rule to a different level and instead of only interviewing minorities…hire one.

[Greeksteel]

Yes, The Chief was a great fella, and my Dad was a 30-year season-ticket holder before the Steelers ever sniffed a championship -- but I challenge anyone to argue otherwise, that before or after Dan, there doesn't seem to be a member of the Rooney family that knew or knows anything about even getting close to winning an NFL championship.

Our team's wonderful 6th Lombardi was well deserved, but in hindsight, it appears obvious (to borrow a phrase) that winning Super Bowl 43 was an aberration --- a fantastic alignment of wild-ass good luck and the incredible combination of Ben + Santonio + Harrison, not --- as all the sports coverage at the time proclaimed --- the dawning of a new golden age of Steelerdom powered by a young, up-and-coming team, coach and ownership. The sheer talent and firepower of those great players kept the glow going for several more seasons, but each time increasingly falling shorter of ever scaling the peak again.

The intervening years have shown that the "great young" brain trust was an illusion. As Steeler fans, we have been and will continue to be screwed for the foreseeable future with the torture of ultimately mundane mediocrity.

To borrow another phrase, one of my least favorite quotes, ironically often used by Coach Cowher, "It is what it is."

The Chief was one of the most beloved persons in town largely because he remembered everyone, went to people's funerals, walked to games, in short, he was an old fashioned man about town. He knew practically nothing about football other than he could play it. He became universally loved during the 70s, of course. And the mythology was born, but the reality was just as you said: Dan Rooney. He was the Rooney who actually took the game seriously, started to look at it as the business it certainly was, and how could that business be successful, both in terms of finances and in terms of success on the gridiron, and Dan understood the two were linked at the hip.

At least Art Rooney Sr. had the folksy quality that made people forgive his ineptitude at football. Art II has none of that, along with not knowing much about football, seemingly, makes him one of the most unlikable Rooney's in my lifetime.

Dan turned the franchise around, no doubt... but I believe he also hired Tomlin.

WTF was so special about Tomlin, anyway? A lifetime DB coach, who got the DC job in Minnesota for a single season, the team went 6-10, and a quick glance tells me the defense was mid. They were around 14th in points allowed.

I’ve never understood the Tomlin hire. He had shown nothing in his career trajectory. Three years as a college DB coach, 5 years as a DB coach with the Bucs, then Min DC and then he gets the Steelers gig? Why?

I could imagine meeting Tomlin for the first time. He'd make a great motivational speaker, thats his schtik. He wowed them with the cliches and tough talk. I can see how they fell for that bait, and maybe figured that along the way hed learn on the job and grow into a great HC. Problem is this guy doesnt learn from his mistakes, and hes terrible at hiring good coaches and coordinators. Not sure if thats a $$$ thing or not but he sucks at it, there is no Tomlin tree, just weeds lol.

[CoolShades]

The Chief was one of the most beloved persons in town largely because he remembered everyone, went to people's funerals, walked to games, in short, he was an old fashioned man about town. He knew practically nothing about football other than he could play it. He became universally loved during the 70s, of course. And the mythology was born, but the reality was just as you said: Dan Rooney. He was the Rooney who actually took the game seriously, started to look at it as the business it certainly was, and how could that business be successful, both in terms of finances and in terms of success on the gridiron, and Dan understood the two were linked at the hip.

At least Art Rooney Sr. had the folksy quality that made people forgive his ineptitude at football. Art II has none of that, along with not knowing much about football, seemingly, makes him one of the most unlikable Rooney's in my lifetime.

Dan turned the franchise around, no doubt... but I believe he also hired Tomlin.

WTF was so special about Tomlin, anyway? A lifetime DB coach, who got the DC job in Minnesota for a single season, the team went 6-10, and a quick glance tells me the defense was mid. They were around 14th in points allowed.

I’ve never understood the Tomlin hire. He had shown nothing in his career trajectory. Three years as a college DB coach, 5 years as a DB coach with the Bucs, then Min DC and then he gets the Steelers gig? Why?

Rooney Rule. Ever heard of it.

Well, yeah. That’s the only reason anyone comes up with. And as smart as Dan was, he did The Steelers zero favors by hiring Mr. Word Salad.

They hired Johnny Bravo for head coach. He fit the suit.

[CoolShades]

The Chief was one of the most beloved persons in town largely because he remembered everyone, went to people's funerals, walked to games, in short, he was an old fashioned man about town. He knew practically nothing about football other than he could play it. He became universally loved during the 70s, of course. And the mythology was born, but the reality was just as you said: Dan Rooney. He was the Rooney who actually took the game seriously, started to look at it as the business it certainly was, and how could that business be successful, both in terms of finances and in terms of success on the gridiron, and Dan understood the two were linked at the hip.

At least Art Rooney Sr. had the folksy quality that made people forgive his ineptitude at football. Art II has none of that, along with not knowing much about football, seemingly, makes him one of the most unlikable Rooney's in my lifetime.

Dan turned the franchise around, no doubt... but I believe he also hired Tomlin.

WTF was so special about Tomlin, anyway? A lifetime DB coach, who got the DC job in Minnesota for a single season, the team went 6-10, and a quick glance tells me the defense was mid. They were around 14th in points allowed.

I’ve never understood the Tomlin hire. He had shown nothing in his career trajectory. Three years as a college DB coach, 5 years as a DB coach with the Bucs, then Min DC and then he gets the Steelers gig? Why?

I could imagine meeting Tomlin for the first time. He'd make a great motivational speaker, thats his schtik. He wowed them with the cliches and tough talk. I can see how they fell for that bait, and maybe figured that along the way hed learn on the job and grow into a great HC. Problem is this guy doesnt learn from his mistakes, and hes terrible at hiring good coaches and coordinators. Not sure if thats a $$$ thing or not but he sucks at it, there is no Tomlin tree, just weeds lol.

I think so too... I think they were looking for a black coach, and he fit what they were looking for personality-wise. Figured he’d grow into the position. Surrounded him with LeBeau and Arians and a super bowl roster and rolled the dice. Boy were they wrong.

Oh, and hiring isn’t a money thing. Cowher never had trouble hiring outstanding assistants. Why does Tomlin? Cowher looked for guys who could become HC. He specifically looked for that for his coordinators. Tomlin hires buddies, has-beens and rejects. He surrounds himself with yes men. That’s his choice.

[CoolShades]

The Chief was one of the most beloved persons in town largely because he remembered everyone, went to people's funerals, walked to games, in short, he was an old fashioned man about town. He knew practically nothing about football other than he could play it. He became universally loved during the 70s, of course. And the mythology was born, but the reality was just as you said: Dan Rooney. He was the Rooney who actually took the game seriously, started to look at it as the business it certainly was, and how could that business be successful, both in terms of finances and in terms of success on the gridiron, and Dan understood the two were linked at the hip.

At least Art Rooney Sr. had the folksy quality that made people forgive his ineptitude at football. Art II has none of that, along with not knowing much about football, seemingly, makes him one of the most unlikable Rooney's in my lifetime.

Dan turned the franchise around, no doubt... but I believe he also hired Tomlin.

WTF was so special about Tomlin, anyway? A lifetime DB coach, who got the DC job in Minnesota for a single season, the team went 6-10, and a quick glance tells me the defense was mid. They were around 14th in points allowed.

I’ve never understood the Tomlin hire. He had shown nothing in his career trajectory. Three years as a college DB coach, 5 years as a DB coach with the Bucs, then Min DC and then he gets the Steelers gig? Why?

Wanted to take the Rooney Rule to a different level and instead of only interviewing minorities…hire one.

I have zero problem hiring a black head coach. I don’t care if he’s purple.

They should hire the best candidate period, regardless of color. Not just the best black candidate. That’s moronic. And that’s what we are stuck with.

I’d take Houston’s Ryans right now.

[Greeksteel]

Hes too hands on, hes not an Xs and Os guy imo, cant scheme if his life depended on it. He can talk though. Short of being let go, he needs to take a step back and become a delegator, make top coordinator and coaching hires and let them do there job and just gently steer the ship and be the motivator he was born to be. That might work.

[Steeldrama]

The Chief was one of the most beloved persons in town largely because he remembered everyone, went to people's funerals, walked to games, in short, he was an old fashioned man about town. He knew practically nothing about football other than he could play it. He became universally loved during the 70s, of course. And the mythology was born, but the reality was just as you said: Dan Rooney. He was the Rooney who actually took the game seriously, started to look at it as the business it certainly was, and how could that business be successful, both in terms of finances and in terms of success on the gridiron, and Dan understood the two were linked at the hip.

At least Art Rooney Sr. had the folksy quality that made people forgive his ineptitude at football. Art II has none of that, along with not knowing much about football, seemingly, makes him one of the most unlikable Rooney's in my lifetime.

Dan turned the franchise around, no doubt... but I believe he also hired Tomlin.

WTF was so special about Tomlin, anyway? A lifetime DB coach, who got the DC job in Minnesota for a single season, the team went 6-10, and a quick glance tells me the defense was mid. They were around 14th in points allowed.

I’ve never understood the Tomlin hire. He had shown nothing in his career trajectory. Three years as a college DB coach, 5 years as a DB coach with the Bucs, then Min DC and then he gets the Steelers gig? Why?

Rooney Rule. Ever heard of it.

Former Steeler player, coach, and friend of Dan Rooney, Tony Dungy, recommended Tomlin.

[Greeksteel]

Dan turned the franchise around, no doubt... but I believe he also hired Tomlin.

WTF was so special about Tomlin, anyway? A lifetime DB coach, who got the DC job in Minnesota for a single season, the team went 6-10, and a quick glance tells me the defense was mid. They were around 14th in points allowed.

I’ve never understood the Tomlin hire. He had shown nothing in his career trajectory. Three years as a college DB coach, 5 years as a DB coach with the Bucs, then Min DC and then he gets the Steelers gig? Why?

I could imagine meeting Tomlin for the first time. He'd make a great motivational speaker, thats his schtik. He wowed them with the cliches and tough talk. I can see how they fell for that bait, and maybe figured that along the way hed learn on the job and grow into a great HC. Problem is this guy doesnt learn from his mistakes, and hes terrible at hiring good coaches and coordinators. Not sure if thats a $$$ thing or not but he sucks at it, there is no Tomlin tree, just weeds lol.

I think so too... I think they were looking for a black coach, and he fit what they were looking for personality-wise. Figured he’d grow into the position. Surrounded him with LeBeau and Arians and a super bowl roster and rolled the dice. Boy were they wrong.

Oh, and hiring isn’t a money thing. Cowher never had trouble hiring outstanding assistants. Why does Tomlin? Cowher looked for guys who could become HC. He specifically looked for that for his coordinators. Tomlin hires buddies, has-beens and rejects. He surrounds himself with yes men. That’s his choice.

Agreed on the hiring thing re Cowher/Tomlin. Hes just absolutely terrible at it, maybe its league known this that he likes to meddle too much, i dunno, but he really sucks at it.

[Greeksteel]

Dan turned the franchise around, no doubt... but I believe he also hired Tomlin.

WTF was so special about Tomlin, anyway? A lifetime DB coach, who got the DC job in Minnesota for a single season, the team went 6-10, and a quick glance tells me the defense was mid. They were around 14th in points allowed.

I’ve never understood the Tomlin hire. He had shown nothing in his career trajectory. Three years as a college DB coach, 5 years as a DB coach with the Bucs, then Min DC and then he gets the Steelers gig? Why?

Rooney Rule. Ever heard of it.

Former Steeler player, coach, and friend of Dan Rooney, Tony Dungy, recommended Tomlin.

Well there we go, that explains that.

[955876]

There is zero doubt (or at least there shouldn’t be) that Tomlin was a good hire. He was.

We won a Super Bowl in his second year so mission accomplished.

What he’s put on tape the past 10+ years more than justifies why he should be fired.

But he’s safer than the Pope so the beat goes on…

[Greeksteel]

There is zero doubt (or at least there shouldn’t be) that Tomlin was a good hire. He was.

We won a Super Bowl in his second year so mission accomplished.

What he’s put on tape the past 10+ years more than justifies why he should be fired.

But he’s safer than the Pope so the beat goes on…

Agreed, can't remember for the life of me how long Barry Switzer lasted in a similar situation after winning the SB with a made team.

[955876]

Jibbs is Barry Switzer protected by the media along with a dumb owner.

[Jobu]

Barry Switzer would coach circles around ole Shades!

[955876]

Barry Switzer would coach circles around ole Shades!

Most likely very true.

Ole Switz would have likely won another SB with Prime Ben, Bell, and the YMC.

[CoolShades]

There is zero doubt (or at least there shouldn’t be) that Tomlin was a good hire. He was.

We won a Super Bowl in his second year so mission accomplished.

What he’s put on tape the past 10+ years more than justifies why he should be fired.

But he’s safer than the Pope so the beat goes on…

Agreed, can't remember for the life of me how long Barry Switzer lasted in a similar situation after winning the SB with a made team.

Switzer won the Super Bowl his second season, just like Cool Shades. He had the decency to retire after his 4th season.

[gojira5150]

Dan turned the franchise around, no doubt... but I believe he also hired Tomlin.

WTF was so special about Tomlin, anyway? A lifetime DB coach, who got the DC job in Minnesota for a single season, the team went 6-10, and a quick glance tells me the defense was mid. They were around 14th in points allowed.

I’ve never understood the Tomlin hire. He had shown nothing in his career trajectory. Three years as a college DB coach, 5 years as a DB coach with the Bucs, then Min DC and then he gets the Steelers gig? Why?

Rooney Rule. Ever heard of it.

Former Steeler player, coach, and friend of Dan Rooney, Tony Dungy, recommended Tomlin.

Thx alot Dungy for Nothing.

[Mason_Almighty]

I'm telling yall, Rooney is shooting jizz on the entirety of Stillers Nation by keeping Tomlin on.

Its like he's got us all sitting in chairs with our hands tied behind our backs, while he walks around furiously stroking it, shooting jizz in all of our faces.

[Thrillsseeker]

17 years and…………this is Tomlins coaching tree. I think the nubs may signify all the times he’s come up short in the playoffs.

[jeemie]

The Chief was one of the most beloved persons in town largely because he remembered everyone, went to people's funerals, walked to games, in short, he was an old fashioned man about town. He knew practically nothing about football other than he could play it. He became universally loved during the 70s, of course. And the mythology was born, but the reality was just as you said: Dan Rooney. He was the Rooney who actually took the game seriously, started to look at it as the business it certainly was, and how could that business be successful, both in terms of finances and in terms of success on the gridiron, and Dan understood the two were linked at the hip.

At least Art Rooney Sr. had the folksy quality that made people forgive his ineptitude at football. Art II has none of that, along with not knowing much about football, seemingly, makes him one of the most unlikable Rooney's in my lifetime.

Dan turned the franchise around, no doubt... but I believe he also hired Tomlin.

WTF was so special about Tomlin, anyway? A lifetime DB coach, who got the DC job in Minnesota for a single season, the team went 6-10, and a quick glance tells me the defense was mid. They were around 14th in points allowed.

I’ve never understood the Tomlin hire. He had shown nothing in his career trajectory. Three years as a college DB coach, 5 years as a DB coach with the Bucs, then Min DC and then he gets the Steelers gig? Why?

Wanted to take the Rooney Rule to a different level and instead of only interviewing minorities…hire one.

The real issue is they didn't cast a wide enough net.

They interviewed four guys, two of which were internal.

Whiz left for Arizona. I don't think Rivera was seriously considered.

That left the choice at Tomlin v Grimm.

Who you taking there?