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Lambert on Mahomes

Post by Greeksteel » Mon Feb 12, 2024 8:22 pm

Jack Lambert
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I’d love to see Mahomes going against the great Steelers defense of the 1970’s he would of got busted in the mouth no way he runs around like that in a Super Bowl and beats the Steelers. Ask Roger Staubach and Fran Tarkenton how that went? Both were better runners than Mahomes.

Man i miss that team!



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Post by swissvale72 » Mon Feb 12, 2024 8:32 pm

Greeksteel wrote:
Mon Feb 12, 2024 8:22 pm
Jack Lambert
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I’d love to see Mahomes going against the great Steelers defense of the 1970’s he would of got busted in the mouth no way he runs around like that in a Super Bowl and beats the Steelers. Ask Roger Staubach and Fran Tarkenton how that went? Both were better runners than Mahomes.

Man i miss that team!
And he woulda been JUST the guy to do it!!

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Post by Deebo » Mon Feb 12, 2024 8:33 pm

Greeksteel wrote:
Mon Feb 12, 2024 8:22 pm
Jack Lambert
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I’d love to see Mahomes going against the great Steelers defense of the 1970’s he would of got busted in the mouth no way he runs around like that in a Super Bowl and beats the Steelers. Ask Roger Staubach and Fran Tarkenton how that went? Both were better runners than Mahomes.

Man i miss that team!
It's impossible to compare eras.
My immediate response to this would be: yea Jack Lambert and Co might lay some hits on PH, but you wouldn't be able to catch him to do so.
This was the same thing said about Wayne Gretzky: "Just hit him, he's so tiny". But he was so slippery, no one could line him up for a big hit.

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Post by Havoc » Mon Feb 12, 2024 8:39 pm

Today's NFL for QBs is like today's NBA for scorers.

Defense in today's NBA consists of 5 orange traffic cones with movement.

It is SO MUCH EASIER to play QB in today's era than past eras.
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Post by K_C_ » Mon Feb 12, 2024 8:50 pm

While Lambert is a God to me, Mahomes is no pussy.

I've seen the guy take plenty of epic shots and he gets up and keeps fucking playing.

Mahomes is one tough sonofabitch. I hate the guy, but he's on his way to being the greatest of all time.
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Post by 955876 » Mon Feb 12, 2024 9:00 pm

Love Lambert (part of my screen name) but defenses aren’t allowed to play that way anymore.

The Steel Curtain defense would get penalized into oblivion if they were out there trying to smash QBs.

So while it’s a nice thought, that ship has sailed and so t never coming back.

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Post by Dan Smith--BYU » Mon Feb 12, 2024 10:07 pm

Also Mahomes is a lot quicker than Staubach or Tarkenton.

Still I like Lambert with piss and vinegar.
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Post by Havoc » Mon Feb 12, 2024 10:18 pm

I wouldn't have mattered. Defensive resistance was dramatically stronger in that era and offensive play reflected it.

Mahomes wouldn't have slid and with the seas parting. Lots of guys in that era would have been frustrated with getting beat and would have been looking to hurt him when they got the chance and it would have happened.

Even if the Steelers didn't catch him (they didn't catch Tarkenton in the SB) running around like a chicken with your head cut off the entire game affects offensive output... even for Mahomes.

It's not as if Mahomes never gets hit in today's league. The brutality of the hits every QB received in that era... no comparison.
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Post by Pabst » Mon Feb 12, 2024 10:19 pm

Deebo wrote:
Mon Feb 12, 2024 8:33 pm
This was the same thing said about Wayne Gretzky: "Just hit him, he's so tiny". But he was so slippery, no one could line him up for a big hit.
Excuse me, did you just suggest laying a big hit on Wayne Gretzky? Dave Semenko and Marty McSorley will be dropping by to have a chat with you.

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Post by Jizz Shooter » Mon Feb 12, 2024 10:21 pm

Mahomes would be crying like the little bitch that he is.

There is no way in hell the little douche would do anything but machine gun a bunch of picks under the real NFL rules of yesteryear.

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Post by Havoc » Mon Feb 12, 2024 10:32 pm

And it's not only the DRAMATICALLY increased resistance directly on the QB...

It's also the increased defensive resistance for the receivers. You had better have your head on a swivel going over the middle lest you lose it. Of course, there was also the pre-Blount rule change era when it was even worse for receivers (and QBs who threw to them)

Affect the QBs throwing target, affect the QB.
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Post by KCSteeler » Mon Feb 12, 2024 10:36 pm

K_C_ wrote:
Mon Feb 12, 2024 8:50 pm
While Lambert is a God to me, Mahomes is no pussy.

I've seen the guy take plenty of epic shots and he gets up and keeps fucking playing.

Mahomes is one tough sonofabitch. I hate the guy, but he's on his way to being the greatest of all time.
Spot on, KC.

As a Steelers fan living in Kansas City, I have had a closeup view of the Chiefs and Mahomes. I hate it, but I respect the hell out of him, his ability and his character on and off the field.
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Post by SteelerDayTrader » Mon Feb 12, 2024 10:39 pm

Deebo wrote:
Mon Feb 12, 2024 8:33 pm
Greeksteel wrote:
Mon Feb 12, 2024 8:22 pm
Jack Lambert
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I’d love to see Mahomes going against the great Steelers defense of the 1970’s he would of got busted in the mouth no way he runs around like that in a Super Bowl and beats the Steelers. Ask Roger Staubach and Fran Tarkenton how that went? Both were better runners than Mahomes.

Man i miss that team!
It's impossible to compare eras.
My immediate response to this would be: yea Jack Lambert and Co might lay some hits on PH, but you wouldn't be able to catch him to do so.
This was the same thing said about Wayne Gretzky: "Just hit him, he's so tiny". But he was so slippery, no one could line him up for a big hit.
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Post by langer » Tue Feb 13, 2024 12:42 am

He went up against the best the NFL has to offer last night, took at least one nasty hit, came from behind, and won in OT with a clutch play.

Pretty damned impressive.

It's an interesting thought experiment, the 70s D against the Chiefs O. It would be a stalemate, imo. KC would get their shots in, Steelers D would have their wideouts covered. SF did a great job of that.

Mahomes was the difference maker.
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Post by R_S » Tue Feb 13, 2024 2:21 am

No fucking way Jack Lambert is on twitter...

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Post by Jobu » Tue Feb 13, 2024 2:24 am

R_S wrote:
Tue Feb 13, 2024 2:21 am
No fucking way Jack Lambert is on twitter...
This is a great point! :lol:

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Post by Deebo » Tue Feb 13, 2024 12:56 pm

Pabst wrote:
Mon Feb 12, 2024 10:19 pm
Deebo wrote:
Mon Feb 12, 2024 8:33 pm
This was the same thing said about Wayne Gretzky: "Just hit him, he's so tiny". But he was so slippery, no one could line him up for a big hit.
Excuse me, did you just suggest laying a big hit on Wayne Gretzky? Dave Semenko and Marty McSorley will be dropping by to have a chat with you.
That too
But if I'm a goon myself, I'll take my beating if it means that I've hurt/ eliminated Gretzky for a game or 2

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Post by Ice » Tue Feb 13, 2024 1:21 pm

Jobu wrote:
Tue Feb 13, 2024 2:24 am
R_S wrote:
Tue Feb 13, 2024 2:21 am
No fucking way Jack Lambert is on twitter...
This is a great point! :lol:
Was honestly my first reaction, too.
Nothing left to do but smile, smile, smile...

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Post by franco32 » Tue Feb 13, 2024 4:12 pm

Jack Lambert on X...LMAO...he's probably chopping wood somewhere.

That said, it does bring up an interesting point. One of the reasons Mahomes is so slippery is because defenders are afraid to take clean shots on him. Imagine a D that played freely and not having to worry about countless personal fouls? It would be a much more violent game for sure and KC's offense would suffer.

In the end, it doesn't matter. We can't just cling to nostalgia. We have to be forward thinking and adapt. Violent Ds and power running games don't cut it anymore.

I'm going to repeat my mantra which I've had every offseason for the last 7 years.

WE HAVE TO DRAFT FOR SPEED.

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Post by Havoc » Tue Feb 13, 2024 4:32 pm

Increased defensive resistance reduces offensive output.

Decreased defensive resistance increases offensive output.

Team speed on offense is even more important when you have a conservative head coach.
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Post by Baltostiller » Wed Feb 14, 2024 1:30 am

Dan Smith--BYU wrote:
Mon Feb 12, 2024 10:07 pm
Also Mahomes is a lot quicker than Staubach or Tarkenton.

Still I like Lambert with piss and vinegar.
Absolutely positively not true. Tarkenton and Staubach would run rings around Mahomes. For God sakes, Ben ran a faster time than Mahomes. that defense would destroy him.

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Post by anpsteel » Wed Feb 14, 2024 6:24 pm

Ice wrote:
Tue Feb 13, 2024 1:21 pm
Jobu wrote:
Tue Feb 13, 2024 2:24 am
R_S wrote:
Tue Feb 13, 2024 2:21 am
No fucking way Jack Lambert is on twitter...
This is a great point! :lol:
Was honestly my first reaction, too.
Same

I looked up the account. whoever it is, has a couple golf posts, pinned. That seems off-

It has to be some fake.

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Post by RemoAZ » Thu Feb 15, 2024 7:16 pm

Havoc wrote:
Mon Feb 12, 2024 8:39 pm
Today's NFL for QBs is like today's NBA for scorers.

Defense in today's NBA consists of 5 orange traffic cones with movement.

It is SO MUCH EASIER to play QB in today's era than past eras.
Just like in society, personal accountability is almost completely gone. It's always the other guy's responsibility. Can't block him if he's not looking even if that allows him to make the tackle. Can only softly lower him to the ground when tackling. Have to let him catch the ball, come down and brace before softly lowering him to the ground. And on and on...
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Post by MJG75 » Fri Feb 16, 2024 7:41 pm

That doesn't sound like the Jack Lambert I remember. Sounds like a yinzer fan, no problem with that, but I do have to believe Jack isn't on Twitter or any social media. I'd be surprised, that is sure.

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