Mace wants another place

[Dan Smith--BYU]

https://www.msn.com/en-us/sports/nfl/re ... r-BB1iaQh1

I'd pony up because QB2 is the second most important position, but they'll let him go and sign Tannehill.

[zeke5123]

Before worrying about QB2 don’t we need to figure out a QB1?

[Mick]

Painful to see the real costs of the layoffs in journalism.

Now we’re going to spend the offseason reading nothing but recycled “Mason feels wronged by steelers, wants a real chance to compete for starting job, not going to return” articles from last offseason. Along with ‘x gained weight to add strength / lost weight to add speed’ ‘best shape of his life’ articles that they’ve been recycling for years.

[tbsteel]

Whether we sign Mason or not -- it does nothing to change the directory of the organization.

He's not a franchise QB and isn't good enough to win against elite teams (unless our D holds our opponents under 16 points like the do for "natural born winner" lil ken). On his best day, he's two tiers below prime Andy Dalton.

So basically, it doesn't matter at all if he's back or not.

[punum123]

Whether we sign Mason or not -- it does nothing to change the directory of the organization.

He's not a franchise QB and isn't good enough to win against elite teams (unless our D holds our opponents under 16 points like the do for "natural born winner" lil ken). On his best day, he's two tiers below prime Andy Dalton.

So basically, it doesn't matter at all if he's back or not.

100% - he's not the answer. If I were he...I'd be looking too. Kenny will walk out of that tunnel next season for game 1 as QB1. No matter what happens in camp MO. Mason proved that adequate QB play translates to a productive Steeler offense. This team needs to solve for QB1.

[.Kodiak]

So basically, it doesn't matter at all if he's back or not.

Be nice to have him as a long-term backup, though it really only matters IF you have an elite starting QB and IF you lose him for 3-4+ weeks.

Otherwise, that extra 1-2 wins just means you're drafting lower.

[tbsteel]

So basically, it doesn't matter at all if he's back or not.

Be nice to have him as a long-term backup, though it really only matters IF you have an elite starting QB and IF you lose him for 3-4+ weeks.

Otherwise, that extra 1-2 wins just means you're drafting lower.

Exactly.

If we had a franchise QB and a roster that was legitimately championship capable, I'd love to have Mason back as a backup as he's shown he can come in with limited reps, make some plays, hold the line so to speak, and keep us on a winning path for the most part. That is the stuff that's important for playoff seeding purposes and the overall momentum of the team.

But for a team like the Steelers, it just means he'd help us from bottoming out and getting more premium draft capital if Kenny went down, which isn't what we need.

[Jizz Shooter]

Mason gonna continue jizzing on you guys.

Hopefully the Khan man can get him locked up.

[Pabst]

Report: Free agent Rudolph looking for 'fresh start'

I get viscerally angry when media outlets do shit like this.

Rudolph never said he's looking for a "fresh start" and this headline is extremely disingenuous.

[Deebo]

Report: Free agent Rudolph looking for 'fresh start'

I get viscerally angry when media outlets do shit like this.

Rudolph never said he's looking for a "fresh start" and this headline is extremely disingenuous.

C'mon, the media would never do something like that just to generate clicks

[lifelongsteel]

Report: Free agent Rudolph looking for 'fresh start'

I get viscerally angry when media outlets do shit like this.

Rudolph never said he's looking for a "fresh start" and this headline is extremely disingenuous.

C'mon, the media would never do something like that just to generate clicks

Using Mason Rudolph to generate clicks. Let that sink in

[RemoAZ]

This guy was around way too long in the first place. They should have been looking to replace him and add a more talented future Ben replacement the minute he got benched for Duck. Hopefully cutting Mitch means they are finally going to make it a priority to keep adding QBs until they find one that can do more than not have a losing season. It won't make much of a difference until Tomlin is gone but it will help the next guy which is hopefully before I die.

[Orangesteel]

I’m kinda for Mason leaving and going after Brissett.

- 31 years young
- played in 5 different systems with decent success
- 51 TDs to 32 INTs and can scramble if need be
- big dude, big frame and good arm
- teammates seem to love him on whatever team he goes to

Why not? I think he’s got more upside than Mason. I’d like Baker but he’s too much. Cousins too old and too pricey. Don’t want Wilson. Minshew is interesting but he’s also a turnover machine. Tannehill looked quite washed.

I dunno Brissett with these weapons could be interesting. That’s after he beats Kenny’s ass in camp.

[Ice]

I liked Brissett a lot coming out of NC State. Man, we've been doing this board mock thing for quite some time

[bradshaw2ben]

This guy was around way too long in the first place. They should have been looking to replace him and add a more talented future Ben replacement the minute he got benched for Duck. Hopefully cutting Mitch means they are finally going to make it a priority to keep adding QBs until they find one that can do more than not have a losing season. It won't make much of a difference until Tomlin is gone but it will help the next guy which is hopefully before I die.

agree with much of this but I think they are most likely to sign someone safe who won’t endanger NHALS. If they really were more interested in finding a QB than NHALS, they’d each wider and more boldly-kind of the way teans search for a head coach when they’re looking for someone special.

Those teams don’t look at retread coaches, they look for someone with juice who hasn’t had the chance but could be great.

I’m telling you while beating my dead horse: there’s more juice in Kory Curtis or Alex McGough than Brissett or Rudolph. There’s also a lot more risk.

NFL teams have found QBs in all sorts of ways, so if you’re really interested in finding one, you should be looking everywhere and taking risks.

[PennyBacker]

Would personally be surprised if Mason were actually wanting to go somewhere else. If for no other reason b/c he saw how his teammates responded to him, as a guy who had been with the team for years, over Trubisky, who signed as a FA.

[Ice]

This guy was around way too long in the first place. They should have been looking to replace him and add a more talented future Ben replacement the minute he got benched for Duck. Hopefully cutting Mitch means they are finally going to make it a priority to keep adding QBs until they find one that can do more than not have a losing season. It won't make much of a difference until Tomlin is gone but it will help the next guy which is hopefully before I die.

agree with much of this but I think they are most likely to sign someone safe who won’t endanger NHALS. If they really were more interested in finding a QB than NHALS, they’d each wider and more boldly-kind of the way teans search for a head coach when they’re looking for someone special.

Those teams don’t look at retread coaches, they look for someone with juice who hasn’t had the chance but could be great.

I’m telling you while beating my dead horse: there’s more juice in Kory Curtis or Alex McGough than Brissett or Rudolph. There’s also a lot more risk.

NFL teams have found QBs in all sorts of ways, so if you’re really interested in finding one, you should be looking everywhere and taking risks.

Soberingly correct, as usual.

[Baltostiller]

If I'm Mason I'm running to another team, no matter what they offer. Tomlin fucked him by signing Mitch and then shit all over him in press conferences while he was playing well this year.

[.Kodiak]

If I'm Mason I'm running to another team, no matter what they offer. Tomlin fucked him by signing Mitch and then shit all over him in press conferences while he was playing well this year.

If for no other reason when your career is on the line, you'd probably prefer to fight for it in a real offense

[Orangesteel]

Yeah I mean Brissett isn’t going to set the world on fire and he’s not going toe to toe with the AFC QB studs but he’s the safer option which is exactly what this franchise, Coach Clishades, will go after.

Those young dudes have a higher ceilings for sure but we know Tomlin doesn’t have the time or intelligence to develop a raw QB. Mason will get an offer and if he turns it down I fully expect it to be Brissett/Tannehill/Minshew as the vet in camp

[Jizz Shooter]

Would personally be surprised if Mason were actually wanting to go somewhere else. If for no other reason b/c he saw how his teammates responded to him, as a guy who had been with the team for years, over Trubisky, who signed as a FA.

Mason really won the locker room over, that's for sure.

[bradshaw2ben]

Even in a safe mode situation, An average NFL team would always have a Starter/QB2 combo that is one vet, one young player ready or nearly ready to start . QB3 is a developmental guy with upside to be at least a QB2 in the future.

The only time they might do something different is when contending for a Super Bowl is imminent. Then you might have an established elite starter, a good vet QB2, and a young QB3 who could enter a game for you and not lose it.

This team is not Super Bowl adjacent, so I'd rather they take this opportunity (only 1 QB on the roster) to hold tryouts of players who aren't household names and, on March 13, sign 2 or 3 and get them in the building for as long as possible before other moves are made. Just keep trying out guys and give a couple a chance.

[RemoAZ]

The thing that encouraged me about the Trubisky cut is it almost guarantees they at a minimum, roll with someone out of the draft as the 3rd. I can't see them going to camp with a 2 and 3 we already know can't be more than a place holder AGAIN. This is Tomlin so obviously I could be wrong but I'm grasping at straws to at least have something to pay attention to this year.

[anpsteel]

I’m kinda for Mason leaving and going after Brissett.

- 31 years young
- played in 5 different systems with decent success
- 51 TDs to 32 INTs and can scramble if need be
- big dude, big frame and good arm
- teammates seem to love him on whatever team he goes to

Why not? I think he’s got more upside than Mason. I’d like Baker but he’s too much. Cousins too old and too pricey. Don’t want Wilson. Minshew is interesting but he’s also a turnover machine. Tannehill looked quite washed.

I dunno Brissett with these weapons could be interesting. That’s after he beats Kenny’s ass in camp.

I think all of this ^^

My concern is, I don't feel like we're going to see a legit competition at QB. I think it's in name only. As of today, I'm of the opinion, there is a 90% likelihood, Pickett is the day 1 starter.

The only way that doesn't happen, is if the QB they bring in, far outplays Pickett, and I don't think they are going to bring in anyone that has that ability.

It's going to be scrubby mcscrubster coming off the scrap heap, to compete with Pickett, but really to sit on the sideline holding the clip board.

[955876]

It's going to be scrubby mcscrubster coming off the scrap heap, to compete with Pickett, but really to sit on the sideline holding the clip board.

Going to be sad when Scrubby McScrubster outplays Pop-Gun Picket too.

[Jobu]

I’m kinda for Mason leaving and going after Brissett.

- 31 years young
- played in 5 different systems with decent success
- 51 TDs to 32 INTs and can scramble if need be
- big dude, big frame and good arm
- teammates seem to love him on whatever team he goes to

Why not? I think he’s got more upside than Mason. I’d like Baker but he’s too much. Cousins too old and too pricey. Don’t want Wilson. Minshew is interesting but he’s also a turnover machine. Tannehill looked quite washed.

I dunno Brissett with these weapons could be interesting. That’s after he beats Kenny’s ass in camp.

I think all of this ^^

My concern is, I don't feel like we're going to see a legit competition at QB. I think it's in name only. As of today, I'm of the opinion, there is a 90% likelihood, Pickett is the day 1 starter.

The only way that doesn't happen, is if the QB they bring in, far outplays Pickett, and I don't think they are going to bring in anyone that has that ability.

It's going to be scrubby mcscrubster coming off the scrap heap, to compete with Pickett, but really to sit on the sideline holding the clip board.

I don't feel like we're going to see a legit competition at QB.

Correct. They’ll pretend there’s a competition. They’ll say there’s a competition. They’ll swear there’s a competition.
There will be no competition.

…there is a 90% likelihood, Pickett is the day 1 starter.

Barring injury, it’s 100%. Zero doubt!

It's going to be scrubby mcscrubster coming off the scrap heap, to compete with Pickett…

Correct again. They aren’t bringing in anyone that’ll have Little Kenny looking over his shoulder, or might have fans screaming for every time he plays poorly.
Ryan Tannehill, Tyrod Taylor, Josh Dobbs, etc.

[tbsteel]

They almost lost the locker room with lil ken last year. I think some on here are underestimating the effect that will have on their decision making.

I think we 100% bring in a vet who will legitimately compete for starter.

[.Kodiak]

Any of the vets they might target are stop gaps at best. They won't - and shouldn't - give up on Pickett before at least another half year with an NFL [hopefully] offense.

They could have a legit competition, but the vet would have to be markedly better to write off Pickett. That maybe seems like a low bar, but remember Pickett is Preseason HOF.

[Jtf]

Need to bring in tannehill. He is picket with 10 years experience. Steelers have shot for playoffs with him otherwise. With this schedule and no backups schedule I am worried it will be 6 win season. I don’t want Steelers picking that high. They will get a qb I like this much better !

[Stallworth16]

Mason Rudolph is underrated on this board. In 3.5 games he had a QB rating of 118.0 which led the league. In one playoff game he had 2 TD, 1 int, and 229 yds in a comeback attempt. Steelers defense lost that game.

What does a QB have to do be a starter? If Kenny put up those exact same numbers in those games, he would be the unquestionable starter all because he was a 1st round pick. Mason Rudolph is 28 years old. Washed up Tannehill is 35.

Look how many 1st round QBs are backups or out of the league. Brock Purdy was a 7th, Tom Brady 6th, Joe Montana was a 3rd. After the draft is over, the only thing that matters is how you play, not what round you were picked.