Article: Khan unFUCKING Colbert’s 2022 Mistakes

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Article: Khan unFUCKING Colbert’s 2022 Mistakes

Post by Steeldrama » Sat Mar 16, 2024 3:04 pm

https://steelersdepot.com/2024/03/omar- ... offseason/

Decent read

The NFL is all about what have you done for me lately

Lately

Colbert (and by extension Tomlin and Deuce) have not been nearly good enough

Go get ‘em Khan-Artist!


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Post by tbsteel » Sat Mar 16, 2024 3:49 pm

Khan gets the rap that he's not a true football guy and just a #s guy. Like the football decisions should actually be left to others because he didn't play.

Well I'll say this: the f'n nerd looks like he knows what the hell he's doing.

And lol, the dude has been around the game for over 27 years, get out of here with that shit. Only thing I'll pick at in his tenure so far is the DJ trade, but that's one of those moves where word comes down the guy has to go and you're forced into doing what you can. We'll see if the CB they got back works out. And you're having to work with Tomlin and try to placate his wants and walking that tightrope.

I wish he had gotten us some more more draft picks this year. We currently have 7. To me, 8 or 9 would be preferred, especially after the trades I was hoping we could have gotten more.

But hey, we tentatively have 10 draft picks in next year's draft, including three 7ths lol.
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Post by Smashmouth21 » Sat Mar 16, 2024 4:19 pm

Khan (and Tomlin) just got rid of the two biggest pussy cancers on the team. No idea if the replacements will work out but I am both shocked at the moves and cautiously optimistic that the team is at least moving in the right direction going forward.

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Post by SteelerDayTrader » Sat Mar 16, 2024 4:25 pm

Colbert was pretty good overall

The current braintrust has done well
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Post by RemoAZ » Sat Mar 16, 2024 4:28 pm

Nothing Khan has done will fix the main issue. Need a new Rooney will balls for that to happen.
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Post by Steelafan77 » Sat Mar 16, 2024 4:42 pm

Read this one this morning too.

The difference to me, Colbert was much more conservative, IMO…

I do love to see more action [exciting when it was historically boring/uneventful] in F/A.

More assertive creative ways Khan has approached his GM position.

As a fan I’ve embraced the change and believe they create a more competetive team.

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Post by Jobu » Sat Mar 16, 2024 5:03 pm

Colbert was a very good GM. His two decades brought 3 Super Bowls and two Lombardis. That’s HoF worthy. That said, his last several seasons were mediocre at best.
It’s apparent that just like head coaches, the game passes GMs by also. Fortunately, Colbert knew when it was time to retire. Unfortunately, we won’t have that happen any time soon with Tomlin.

As for Khan, it’s refreshing to see the Steelers doing things differently, but let’s be real here, he’s not making these moves without the blessings of Tomlin and especially A2.

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Post by Steeldrama » Sat Mar 16, 2024 5:20 pm

Jobu wrote:
Sat Mar 16, 2024 5:03 pm

As for Khan, it’s refreshing to see the Steelers doing things differently, but let’s be real here, he’s not making these moves without the blessings of Tomlin and especially A2.
You’re not wrong
Khan not taking a shit without Art2’s say so

BUT

Khan’s year plus on the job are a far cry from Colbert just being a yes man to Mike and Deuce”

“Hey Kev, I’m hiring Dino’s coach at Maryland even though he knows fuck all about coaching an NFL offense.”

“Ok Mike, sounds good. Hey I’m stuck on this crossword puzzle maybe you can help me out. Who was Peebles 3rd cousin on Wilma’s side?”

“Hey Kev, draft that long haired kid that I’ve seen around the building the past six years. I hear tell he’s better than Marino.”

“Will do Mr. Rooney.” I hear tell he’s got a hot fiancé. Will give me something to snap the carrot to on draft night.”

Stop the mistakes before they happen, KHAAAAAAN!!!!”
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Post by CKSteeler » Sat Mar 16, 2024 5:28 pm

How well did most of the signings from last off-season work out?

Did Kenny Pickett leave town because he sucked, or because he demanded a trade aka was a little bitch?

It's easy sometimes to see a grand plan where there really isn't one. I like the draft Kahn put together, but odds are Kahn had his own say on draft day when it came to Pickett given that he was in the building and going to the successor to Colbert. And then there's Tomlin.

I like Kahn's ability to get draft capital for seemingly nothing. I like what has been done on draft day so far, but it's a small sample size. But Khan didn't get this job because he's so different from Colbert. He got it because he was in the building and part of the decision making process for years.

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Post by CKSteeler » Sat Mar 16, 2024 5:32 pm

Smashmouth21 wrote:
Sat Mar 16, 2024 4:19 pm
Khan (and Tomlin) just got rid of the two biggest pussy cancers on the team. No idea if the replacements will work out but I am both shocked at the moves and cautiously optimistic that the team is at least moving in the right direction going forward.
We have always been at war with Eastasia.

And here's Smashmout21 defending Pickett!
This is exactly why it is so difficult to evaluate QBs and why I especially hate when people talk about a QB’s “ceiling”. It’s almost comical. KP8 has as much arm talent as Tom Brady. Yes, I know (and B2B said this the last time I brought it up) that comparing a rookie (now second year player) to an all time great or unicorn isn’t going to be the most apt analogy the vast majority of times, but it’s also precisely why you cannot and should not write a signal caller off early for “tools” reasons. Once certain minimum thresholds have been reached, the most important attributes are passing accuracy and football IQ. KP8 appears to have those in spades.

Aside over and back to KP8, what makes him this good even early is his decision making and accuracy, especially on the move. He is also a very underrated athlete. And I have not seen very many QBs with his accuracy on the move, particularly when going to his left. Uncanny. KP8 has the potential to be something truly special. Time will tell but I have been and continue to be very optimistic about his growth in year 2.

For the haters:

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I'm fairly certain that if I cared to, I could find Smashmout21 defending Diontae Johnson from last year, as well. But I'd have to actually care to look.
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Post by .Kodiak » Sat Mar 16, 2024 5:49 pm

Isn't the GM role actually split with Weidl?

Khan is the deal maker, and I like what he's done on that front. But I think Weidly is whispering in his ear about what moves to make.

But to me the problem remains coaching and development. We've seen more than a few guys do well after leaving PIT, which created holes we probably didn't need to have.

And what we don't see are cast offs from other teams coming here and playing well. Maybe they finally hit on one or two of the ILB last year. But merely playing at a level they have been is much more rare than a guy who doesn't disappoint, often massively.

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Post by blu » Sat Mar 16, 2024 6:18 pm

.Kodiak wrote:
Sat Mar 16, 2024 5:49 pm
Isn't the GM role actually split with Weidl?

Khan is the deal maker, and I like what he's done on that front. But I think Weidly is whispering in his ear about what moves to make.

But to me the problem remains coaching and development. We've seen more than a few guys do well after leaving PIT, which created holes we probably didn't need to have.

And what we don't see are cast offs from other teams coming here and playing well. Maybe they finally hit on one or two of the ILB last year. But merely playing at a level they have been is much more rare than a guy who doesn't disappoint, often massively.
The team definitely looks to being run in a more professional football manner. It makes a lot of sense that Weidl is a big part. of it. One more piece to turn over. MT, watch your back.

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Post by SteelerDayTrader » Sat Mar 16, 2024 6:44 pm

Steeldrama wrote:
Sat Mar 16, 2024 5:20 pm
Jobu wrote:
Sat Mar 16, 2024 5:03 pm

As for Khan, it’s refreshing to see the Steelers doing things differently, but let’s be real here, he’s not making these moves without the blessings of Tomlin and especially A2.
You’re not wrong
Khan not taking a shit without Art2’s say so

BUT

Khan’s year plus on the job are a far cry from Colbert just being a yes man to Mike and Deuce”

“Hey Kev, I’m hiring Dino’s coach at Maryland even though he knows fuck all about coaching an NFL offense.”

“Ok Mike, sounds good. Hey I’m stuck on this crossword puzzle maybe you can help me out. Who was Peebles 3rd cousin on Wilma’s side?”

“Hey Kev, draft that long haired kid that I’ve seen around the building the past six years. I hear tell he’s better than Marino.”

“Will do Mr. Rooney.” I hear tell he’s got a hot fiancé. Will give me something to snap the carrot to on draft night.”

Stop the mistakes before they happen, KHAAAAAAN!!!!”
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Post by Orangesteel » Sat Mar 16, 2024 6:47 pm

Colbert should have never been in control of that farewell draft. He killed it for a lot of years but that was a big mistake by the braintrust
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Post by .Kodiak » Sat Mar 16, 2024 6:56 pm

Orangesteel wrote:
Sat Mar 16, 2024 6:47 pm
Colbert should have never been in control of that farewell draft. He killed it for a lot of years but that was a big mistake by the braintrust
And those assholes almost traded up for Kengina, too

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Post by Smashmouth21 » Sat Mar 16, 2024 7:19 pm

CKSteeler wrote:
Sat Mar 16, 2024 5:32 pm
Smashmouth21 wrote:
Sat Mar 16, 2024 4:19 pm
Khan (and Tomlin) just got rid of the two biggest pussy cancers on the team. No idea if the replacements will work out but I am both shocked at the moves and cautiously optimistic that the team is at least moving in the right direction going forward.
We have always been at war with Eastasia.

And here's Smashmout21 defending Pickett!
This is exactly why it is so difficult to evaluate QBs and why I especially hate when people talk about a QB’s “ceiling”. It’s almost comical. KP8 has as much arm talent as Tom Brady. Yes, I know (and B2B said this the last time I brought it up) that comparing a rookie (now second year player) to an all time great or unicorn isn’t going to be the most apt analogy the vast majority of times, but it’s also precisely why you cannot and should not write a signal caller off early for “tools” reasons. Once certain minimum thresholds have been reached, the most important attributes are passing accuracy and football IQ. KP8 appears to have those in spades.

Aside over and back to KP8, what makes him this good even early is his decision making and accuracy, especially on the move. He is also a very underrated athlete. And I have not seen very many QBs with his accuracy on the move, particularly when going to his left. Uncanny. KP8 has the potential to be something truly special. Time will tell but I have been and continue to be very optimistic about his growth in year 2.

For the haters:

Image
I'm fairly certain that if I cared to, I could find Smashmout21 defending Diontae Johnson from last year, as well. But I'd have to actually care to look.
:lol:

CK is always a cherry picking douche. No surprise here omitting all context and going with a preseason quote. Stay true to the tool you are!

You know how it ends when you mix it up with me anyways. I do not merely destroy my enemies, I change them.
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Post by Steeldrama » Sat Mar 16, 2024 7:41 pm

Orangesteel wrote:
Sat Mar 16, 2024 6:47 pm
Colbert should have never been in control of that farewell draft. He killed it for a lot of years but that was a big mistake by the braintrust
MOST of the years he “killed it” were with Cowher

Slow downward slide with Tomlin highlighted by reaching for Virginians vaginas, and contact adverse godsons of former players.

Finally the wheels completely fell off in ‘22 as detailed in the article

Onward and upward

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Post by Greeksteel » Sat Mar 16, 2024 7:48 pm

Maybe the worst thing wouldnt be for Tomlin to daft another 1st round QB this year...one more bust qb might just finally put the wheels in motion to end his tenure.

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Post by Smashmouth21 » Sat Mar 16, 2024 7:55 pm

And here’s CKDouche defending his boy Diontae…
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KC needs to be slapped upside the head the next time he tries to criticize the OL, Pickens, Johnson, or Friermuth.

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Post by Steeldrama » Sat Mar 16, 2024 8:09 pm

Greeksteel wrote:
Sat Mar 16, 2024 7:48 pm
Maybe the worst thing wouldnt be for ROONEY to daft another 1st round QB this year...one more bust qb might just finally put the wheels in motion to end his tenure.
Fixed that for ya my Greek/Canadian friend
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Post by Steelperch » Sat Mar 16, 2024 11:00 pm

SteelerDayTrader wrote:
Sat Mar 16, 2024 4:25 pm
Colbert was pretty good overall

The current braintrust has done well
Colbert was great, but I think Alzheimer’s set in over his last half dozen years in the job. I always thought Tomlin was making or heavily influencing those picks though.

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Post by CoolShades » Sat Mar 16, 2024 11:33 pm

Steelperch wrote:
Sat Mar 16, 2024 11:00 pm
SteelerDayTrader wrote:
Sat Mar 16, 2024 4:25 pm
Colbert was pretty good overall

The current braintrust has done well
Colbert was great, but I think Alzheimer’s set in over his last half dozen years in the job. I always thought Tomlin was making or heavily influencing those picks though.
Rumor I’ve heard is that Colbert lost a power struggle with Tomlin. He was being overruled in the draft room and Art2 sided with his buddy mediocre Mike. The beginning of the end was the move up to draft Devin Bush, Tomlin’s friend’s Godson.

I don’t know what’s going on now, but it seems that Khan has much more control, which is good.

Looking at the moves from mid-last season to this off-season, Tomlin pets Canada, DJ, Pat Pete, Allen Robinson and Harvin are all gone. That’s a good thing.

Maybe, just maybe, Tomlin is finally on his way out. I don’t think he’s signed his extension yet. I’m hoping they hold off and make him coach this entire season without it.

Of course, I know Art2 will sign him to a big fat extension, but I can dream.
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Post by Thrillsseeker » Sun Mar 17, 2024 2:06 am

I will celebrate the day Mediocre Mike is gone!

The day will come and I can't wait.

If that Fraudulent bastard ends up in another capacity within the organization I'll hate it, but atleast it won't be coach anymore.

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Post by CKSteeler » Sun Mar 17, 2024 4:27 am

Smashmouth21 wrote:
Sat Mar 16, 2024 7:19 pm

:lol:

CK is always a cherry picking douche. No surprise here omitting all context and going with a preseason quote. Stay true to the tool you are!

You know how it ends when you mix it up with me anyways. I do not merely destroy my enemies, I change them.
You defended Pickett right up until he was benched. You, KC, and one other poster were the three biggest Pickett ballwashers this board had.

Go away now, you lemming.

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Post by Smashmouth21 » Sun Mar 17, 2024 2:54 pm

CKSteeler wrote:
Sun Mar 17, 2024 4:27 am
Smashmouth21 wrote:
Sat Mar 16, 2024 7:19 pm

:lol:

CK is always a cherry picking douche. No surprise here omitting all context and going with a preseason quote. Stay true to the tool you are!

You know how it ends when you mix it up with me anyways. I do not merely destroy my enemies, I change them.
You defended Pickett right up until he was benched. You, KC, and one other poster were the three biggest Pickett ballwashers this board had.

Go away now, you lemming.
:lol:

The sad thing is you might actually believe the fake man of action, self-entitled drivel you post here. I officially dub thee Yossarian Lemming. Wear your badge with shame, coward!

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Post by CKSteeler » Sun Mar 17, 2024 5:02 pm

Smashmouth21 wrote:
Sun Mar 17, 2024 2:54 pm
CKSteeler wrote:
Sun Mar 17, 2024 4:27 am
Smashmouth21 wrote:
Sat Mar 16, 2024 7:19 pm

:lol:

CK is always a cherry picking douche. No surprise here omitting all context and going with a preseason quote. Stay true to the tool you are!

You know how it ends when you mix it up with me anyways. I do not merely destroy my enemies, I change them.
You defended Pickett right up until he was benched. You, KC, and one other poster were the three biggest Pickett ballwashers this board had.

Go away now, you lemming.
:lol:

The sad thing is you might actually believe the fake man of action, self-entitled drivel you post here. I officially dub thee Yossarian Lemming. Wear your badge with shame, coward!
Just own your shitty football takes.

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Post by Smashmouth21 » Mon Mar 18, 2024 2:37 pm

CKSteeler wrote:
Sun Mar 17, 2024 5:02 pm
Smashmouth21 wrote:
Sun Mar 17, 2024 2:54 pm
CKSteeler wrote:
Sun Mar 17, 2024 4:27 am


You defended Pickett right up until he was benched. You, KC, and one other poster were the three biggest Pickett ballwashers this board had.

Go away now, you lemming.
:lol:

The sad thing is you might actually believe the fake man of action, self-entitled drivel you post here. I officially dub thee Yossarian Lemming. Wear your badge with shame, coward!
Just own your shitty football takes.
Unlike you, Yossarian, I did. Just scroll back through the crow thread numb nuts. Like there was any way people outside the building would be able to tell Kenny was weak minded and not a team player. :roll:

The next time you actually own your many shitty football takes will be your first, Yossarian. Remind me again how immensely talented, yet vastly overrated the personnel is again… missed the playoffs last year, right Miss Cleo? I can’t wait for your next Nostradamus prediction. ;)

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Post by CKSteeler » Tue Mar 19, 2024 3:08 am

Smashmouth21 wrote:
Mon Mar 18, 2024 2:37 pm
Unlike you, Yossarian, I did. Just scroll back through the crow thread numb nuts. Like there was any way people outside the building would be able to tell Kenny was weak minded and not a team player. :roll:

The next time you actually own your many shitty football takes will be your first, Yossarian. Remind me again how immensely talented, yet vastly overrated the personnel is again… missed the playoffs last year, right Miss Cleo? I can’t wait for your next Nostradamus prediction. ;)
Yea, Kenny's only issues are that he is weak minded and not a team player. Nothing at all you could tell from his play all season.

I could go back through my posts, specifically a multitude of arguments with your dopey ass, and find me saying exactly how the season would end. A blowout playoff loss in round 1. You were here the day after not to claim I was wrong because they made the playoffs, but because you were trying to pretend that the Buffalo game was actually competitive because it was only a two score game in the 4th quarter.

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