A Win is a Win is a Win

[swissvale72]

Attention Bedwetters (and you know who you are)....the Pittsburgh Steelers WON yesterday.

Listening to Mark Madden this morning, bitching about yesterday's game being hard to watch. Well, you Fat Fuck...don't fuckin' watch it then. As far as watching football to be "entertained," the ONLY time I find Steelers football "hard to watch" is when they're getting blown out, no chance of winning. As long as Steelers are in the ballgame, I'll revert back to something I've said repeatedly.

"We don't ENJOY these games...we suffer through them, and hope we're happy in the end."

For me, anyway, that will always be good enough.

[Mick]

I’m actually not giving up on this season yet. If wilson is better than fields, and we hold our own through the early season, fair chance a 2-6 team decides to sell a top WR. Tack a legit NFL WR onto this group, and we could legitimately be the best team to lose to Mahomes this postseason, which is the only realistic goal ar this point for anyone.

[beerbrother]

Maybe I'm in the minority but I enjoy it when the Steelers win.

When the defense dominates.

When the opposing QB sits on the bench looking like he is going to cry.

When the kicker makes +50 yard field goals look easy. Then as an injury sub has a 43 yard punt.

When Pickens makes athletic catches.

When Steeler fans show up on the road making the home team go to silent count.

Do I like Tomlin's adversity to a modern offense? No, but it is what it is.

Still plenty to enjoy watching while them win and AFC North foes lose.

[K_C_]

Great post and GREAT start to the season.

Does the offense need to improve? Fuck yes it does and I personally think it will.

The o-line and Fields both surprised me. The o-line held their own overall and Fields showed poise I honestly didn't think he had.

[Orangesteel]

Only AFCN team that didn’t score a TD this weekend.

First place AFCN.

I’m a cantankerous dick on the game thread but I’m over the moon when they win. But they need to start doing things differently on offense and it starts this Sunday at Mile High (or whatever it is called now).

[Thrillsseeker]

Only AFCN team that didn’t score a TD this weekend.

First place AFCN.

I’m a cantankerous dick on the game thread but I’m over the moon when they win. But they need to start doing things differently on offense and it starts this Sunday at Mile High (or whatever it is called now).

Off the top of my head no way I could remember the last time all three division foes lost, and we won. The fact that it happened this weekend and we’re first in the division without scoring a touchdown is fucking wild.

[beerbrother]

Of the AFC North teams only the Raven outscored the Steelers. By a whopping 2 points.

Ravens 20 Chiefs 27
Steelers 18 Falcons 10
Browns 17 Cowboys 33
Bengals 10 Patriots 16

[Steeldrama]

A Win is a Win is a Win

Sure it is

If you're a casual football fan.

If you dropped a grand to take the wife and kids down to the Benz yesterday.

Kids cheered for all those Boz 50+ field goals

Wife rubbed your thigh watching TJ Watt and all those muscles destroy grown men.

"Daddy! WE WON!"

"That's great kid."

Ahhh dear old dad

Dad knows

Dad knows that HOW you win MATTERS

ESPECIALLY in a football universe ruled by Mike Tomlin

Dad knows that Kirk Cousins was nothing CLOSE to Minnesota Kirk Cousins

Dad knows that the Falcons offensive game plan yesterday made Matt Canada blush.

Most importantly

Dad knows that a WIN TRULY matters when the goal of said WIN is not all in the name of NHALS but rather is reflective of the bigger goal to WIN not just A playoff game, but WIN multiple playoff games enroute to a WIN in the ULTIMATE GAME.

Yep

The Pittsburgh Steelers WON an NFL football game yesterday.

I'm not a Fat Fuck like Mark Madden.

I stay in shape dammit

Just because I'm not a loud obnoxious fat man hiding behind a keyboard doesn't mean I have to be all giddy over a week 1 win where my team didn't sniff the redzone let alone the endzone.

To the advice posted above if you don't like it, don't watch it?

I didn't watch it.

At least not all of it.

Took some basketball breaks with the neighborhood high school kids in the driveway.

Why?

Not because I wasn't entertained by the offense (I wasn't), but because I KNOW that is not an offense designed to WIN anything but NHALS.

I'm far from a "super genius" like Mark Madden, but I do know that much.

[daikyu]

Amen Swiss! I called out folks in the game day thread on this very subject. It seems for some that it wasn't a good win unless a certain amount of check boxes are filled. Last year we heard here over and over "400 yards, why can't we get 400 yards", then when we did it turned to something else to bitch about.

The offense was rough but showed improvement as the game went on.
Fields started the game like a deer in the headlights but settled down and made some plays.
Despite "The worst WR room in the league", Pickens managed to find some room and posted a decent day despite the rough QB play.
Oline was better than most expected and should get better as the season goes along.
The D was lights-out dominant. Cousins was hit on almost every throw he made and could have easily had 3 more turnovers (dropped INT, 2 strip sacks called back).
On the road against a talented Falcons team the Steelers played well enough to win.
Without the one-sided officiating, the game would have been an ass beating.

[Professor Half Wit]

Wife rubbed your thigh watching TJ Watt and all those muscles destroy grown men.

[gojira5150]

Attention Bedwetters (and you know who you are)....the Pittsburgh Steelers WON yesterday.

Listening to Mark Madden this morning, bitching about yesterday's game being hard to watch. Well, you Fat Fuck...don't fuckin' watch it then. As far as watching football to be "entertained," the ONLY time I find Steelers football "hard to watch" is when they're getting blown out, no chance of winning. As long as Steelers are in the ballgame, I'll revert back to something I've said repeatedly.

"We don't ENJOY these games...we suffer through them, and hope we're happy in the end."

For me, anyway, that will always be good enough.

Right On!! Just Win Baby. As of today, Steelers are in 1st place in AFCN. JF didn't get the nod until Friday. We have a damn good D that will keep us in games. If they can get the O up and running around 24pts per game. Watch out

TJ may KILL Nix this weekend. They have a shaky o-line and rookie QB. I like Herbig giving Watt a breather and Peyton Wilson looks good on passing down. The D was not gassed in the 4th. Looks like no one wants to pass at JPJ

[drmalba]

Attention Bedwetters (and you know who you are)....the Pittsburgh Steelers WON yesterday.

Listening to Mark Madden this morning, bitching about yesterday's game being hard to watch. Well, you Fat Fuck...don't fuckin' watch it then. As far as watching football to be "entertained," the ONLY time I find Steelers football "hard to watch" is when they're getting blown out, no chance of winning. As long as Steelers are in the ballgame, I'll revert back to something I've said repeatedly.

"We don't ENJOY these games...we suffer through them, and hope we're happy in the end."

For me, anyway, that will always be good enough.

Question for someone not local to the area. Why is Mark Madden continually given a chance to speak into a radio microphone? What grand scoop or insight on the Steelers has he offered over the last 5-10 years? He's the human equivalent of a turkey jowl becoming sentient.

[swissvale72]

Attention Bedwetters (and you know who you are)....the Pittsburgh Steelers WON yesterday.

Listening to Mark Madden this morning, bitching about yesterday's game being hard to watch. Well, you Fat Fuck...don't fuckin' watch it then. As far as watching football to be "entertained," the ONLY time I find Steelers football "hard to watch" is when they're getting blown out, no chance of winning. As long as Steelers are in the ballgame, I'll revert back to something I've said repeatedly.

"We don't ENJOY these games...we suffer through them, and hope we're happy in the end."

For me, anyway, that will always be good enough.

Question for someone not local to the area. Why is Mark Madden continually given a chance to speak into a radio microphone? What grand scoop or insight on the Steelers has he offered over the last 5-10 years? He's the human equivalent of a turkey jowl becoming sentient.

Very good question, Doc...which actually begs the question for me...when Madden says it's like painful to watch the Steelers, WHY do I listen to his fat ass pontificate?? From memory, he's also into wrestlers and porn stars for studio guests....the latter, not so bad I guess

[Jobu]

Attention Bedwetters (and you know who you are)....the Pittsburgh Steelers WON yesterday.

Listening to Mark Madden this morning, bitching about yesterday's game being hard to watch. Well, you Fat Fuck...don't fuckin' watch it then. As far as watching football to be "entertained," the ONLY time I find Steelers football "hard to watch" is when they're getting blown out, no chance of winning. As long as Steelers are in the ballgame, I'll revert back to something I've said repeatedly.

"We don't ENJOY these games...we suffer through them, and hope we're happy in the end."

For me, anyway, that will always be good enough.

Question for someone not local to the area. Why is Mark Madden continually given a chance to speak into a radio microphone? What grand scoop or insight on the Steelers has he offered over the last 5-10 years? He's the human equivalent of a turkey jowl becoming sentient.

Madden is loud, rude, and obnoxious. He’s also very opinionated and believes he’s always right. Madden doesn’t toe the company line, he’s controversial. People either like him or they hate him…no middle road. If you are a Pom Pom waving Homer fanboy, you probably don’t like what Madden says. He isn’t going to blow black and gold butterflies and rainbows up your ass. If/when the Steelers, Pens ,Buccos suck, he’ll tell you they suck. Personally, I don’t always agree with what Madden says, but I’d rather hear his opinions than listen to Missi Matthew’s’ and Craig Wolfley’s company line rhetoric. Listening to Madden is a lot like reading this board.

https://triblive.com/sports/mark-madden ... are-doing/
Here’s a Madden article from a few days ago. Tell me what he’s wrong about.

[.Kodiak]

The defense looked really good. The offense looked pretty much like what we've come to expect.

We've all seen this script play out over the last several years. Otherwise I could find plenty in that game to be optimistic about.

[955876]

We've all seen this script play out over the last several years. Otherwise I could find plenty in that game to be optimistic about.

That is the key here.

A win is a win when taken on a week to week basis and in a vacuum.

Doesn’t matter how you get it.

This team however has severely regressed into one of the worst offensive teams in football over the past few years with no signs of breaking out of that funk.

So bigger picture, we are relegated to rooting for NHALS and maybe a playoff beat down.

I’m willing to give the offense time for oline to gel and see what Wilson has left but that WR room after Pickens is flat out awful.

[Havoc]

A Win is a Win is a Win

Sure it is

If you're a casual football fan.

If you dropped a grand to take the wife and kids down to the Benz yesterday.

Kids cheered for all those Boz 50+ field goals

Wife rubbed your thigh watching TJ Watt and all those muscles destroy grown men.

"Daddy! WE WON!"

"That's great kid."

Ahhh dear old dad

Dad knows

Dad knows that HOW you win MATTERS

ESPECIALLY in a football universe ruled by Mike Tomlin

Dad knows that Kirk Cousins was nothing CLOSE to Minnesota Kirk Cousins

Dad knows that the Falcons offensive game plan yesterday made Matt Canada blush.

Most importantly

Dad knows that a WIN TRULY matters when the goal of said WIN is not all in the name of NHALS but rather is reflective of the bigger goal to WIN not just A playoff game, but WIN multiple playoff games enroute to a WIN in the ULTIMATE GAME.

Yep

The Pittsburgh Steelers WON an NFL football game yesterday.

I'm not a Fat Fuck like Mark Madden.

I stay in shape dammit

Just because I'm not a loud obnoxious fat man hiding behind a keyboard doesn't mean I have to be all giddy over a week 1 win where my team didn't sniff the redzone let alone the endzone.

To the advice posted above if you don't like it, don't watch it?

I didn't watch it.

At least not all of it.

Took some basketball breaks with the neighborhood high school kids in the driveway.

Why?

Not because I wasn't entertained by the offense (I wasn't), but because I KNOW that is not an offense designed to WIN anything but NHALS.

I'm far from a "super genius" like Mark Madden, but I do know that much.

Good stuff as usual Drama

[Steel Bingo]

Nice to look at the standings on Monday after the first NFL Sunday of the year and see the Steelers alone atop the AFC North!

Pittsburgh also has the 2nd best point differential in the AFC right now. A lot of close games Week 1.

[Steelersfan]

Not a dumb thread at all. Just complete opposite opinion is all. You know, far right, opposing far left type stuff. But as almost every single thread on this website the answer always lies somewhere in the middle.

My take, absolutely would of loved for the offense to come out and dominate. Would of loved to have seen 2, 3 or more TDs. But it didn't happen. Gonna still enjoy the win. But, what I did take from that game is, we are miles ahead of the Tomlin, Canada, Pickett road we were heading down.

Im pretty convinced we are a franchise QB & another legit receiving threat away from being a SB contender. Yes, its holes the entirety of Steeler Nation realized we had. But that's still miles ahead of the direction we were heading post Big Ben.

And I'll take any win, any way, knowing we are heading in the right direction now.

Its the direction I noticed yesterday. Where we had no direction the last three years.

Jump up and throw another dart at a top QB prospect to compete with Fields and/or Russ this draft. Sign a vet WR and throw another draft dart at one. And Im starting to get confident.

[swissvale72]

We've all seen this script play out over the last several years. Otherwise I could find plenty in that game to be optimistic about.

That is the key here.

A win is a win when taken on a week to week basis and in a vacuum.

Doesn’t matter how you get it.

This team however has severely regressed into one of the worst offensive teams in football over the past few years with no signs of breaking out of that funk.

So bigger picture, we are relegated to rooting for NHALS and maybe a playoff beat down.

I’m willing to give the offense time for oline to gel and see what Wilson has left but that WR room after Pickens is flat out awful.

I'm not really accepting that, 95. The defense appears to be assessed by most as improved over last years. And let's not forget, last years playoff loss was minus TJ Watt. I'm hopeful of 2-0 after next weeks trip to denver

[zeke5123]

We've all seen this script play out over the last several years. Otherwise I could find plenty in that game to be optimistic about.

That is the key here.

A win is a win when taken on a week to week basis and in a vacuum.

Doesn’t matter how you get it.

This team however has severely regressed into one of the worst offensive teams in football over the past few years with no signs of breaking out of that funk.

So bigger picture, we are relegated to rooting for NHALS and maybe a playoff beat down.

I’m willing to give the offense time for oline to gel and see what Wilson has left but that WR room after Pickens is flat out awful.

I'm not really accepting that, 95. The defense appears to be assessed by most as improved over last years. And let's not forget, last years playoff loss was minus TJ Watt. I'm hopeful of 2-0 after next weeks trip to denver

Every year there are teams that are flukes. Last year, the Steelers were flukes. If they are better than last year, then they might get to the same record.

[rooneytunes]

After this weekend

Steelers 2-0--- Steelers beat rookie Mo Picks

Ravens 0-2----Lamar hurt? Not practicing

Browns 0-2--- Franchise a mess. On the road vs Jax

Bengals 0-2--- At Kansas City. Blond Bomber is 1-8 (.111) in the first two weeks of the season since entering the league.

[Orangesteel]

After this weekend

Steelers 2-0--- Steelers beat rookie Mo Picks

Ravens 0-2----Lamar hurt? Not practicing

Browns 0-2--- Franchise a mess. On the road vs Jax

Bengals 0-2--- At Kansas City. Blond Bomber is 1-8 (.111) in the first two weeks of the season since entering the league.

Good stuff here. Steelers have a great shot at 2-0 with the others losing.

Keep it rolling.

[Havoc]

I'm not going the say the Steelers can't win a playoff game. I don't care about Lombardi contending mirages so the idea of winning a playoff game doesn't move the needle for me much.

TJ Watt deserves better than being paired up with the inferior simpleton neanderthal checkers playing low offensive football IQ that governs this franchise.

Smith isn't going to save us (even if he's an improvement over Canada). No Derrick Henry to mask the inferiority of the philosophy. Didn't do shit in Atlanta. Brought here to fit seamlessly under Tomlin's low offensive football IQ umbrella.

The ONLY hope of legitimate Lombardi contention with Art2/Tomlin is something like a defense as good as 2008 + Fields morphing into a Q4 playmaker pulling wins out of his ass like Ben did or a once in 20 year defense like the year the Broncos won it with suffocating defense + the noodle arm ghost of Peyton Manning at QB. Mike Tomlin is not sports strategy smart enough to win it any other way.

[W&M_Steeler]

I'm not going the say the Steelers can't win a playoff game. I don't care about Lombardi contending mirages so the idea of winning a playoff game doesn't move the needle for me much.

TJ Watt deserves better than being paired up with the inferior simpleton neanderthal checkers playing low offensive football IQ that governs this franchise.

Smith isn't going to save us (even if he's an improvement over Canada). No Derrick Henry to mask the inferiority of the philosophy. Didn't do shit in Atlanta. Brought here to fit seamlessly under Tomlin's low offensive football IQ umbrella.

The ONLY hope of legitimate Lombardi contention with Art2/Tomlin is something like a defense as good as 2008 + Fields morphing into a Q4 playmaker pulling wins out of his ass like Ben did or a once in 20 year defense like the year the Broncos won it with suffocating defense + the noodle arm ghost of Peyton Manning at QB. Mike Tomlin is not sports strategy smart enough to win it any other way.

Tomlin's dream is to replicate the 2000 Ravens. I don't think that's possible under the current rules and in the era of Mahomes and the current 49ers. You can't win in the playoffs with an offense that is meant to burn the clock more than it's meant to score. The Steelers would be dangerous with Stroud- I don't think they're real contenders with either RW or JF.

But overall I am less grumpy about the game than I was Sunday. Numerous rookies and young guys flashed potential on both sides of the ball, the O-line looked better than expected, and- even though it couldn't score touchdowns- the offense wasn't the 3 and out machine it was under KP and Canada. Had the refs not made terrible calls on the Pickens catch and the TJ Watt strip sack, the score would have been more lopsided. Better yet, the younger guys seem to have more fire, and we're getting rid of slugs from the past few years like Devin Bush, DJ, KP, etc.

[Baltostiller]

Of the AFC North teams only the Raven outscored the Steelers. By a whopping 2 points.

Ravens 20 Chiefs 27
Steelers 18 Falcons 10
Browns 17 Cowboys 33
Bengals 10 Patriots 16

The thing that makes this even better is that the Browns and Bengals both lost AT HOME.

[bradshaw2ben]

I'm not going the say the Steelers can't win a playoff game. I don't care about Lombardi contending mirages so the idea of winning a playoff game doesn't move the needle for me much.

TJ Watt deserves better than being paired up with the inferior simpleton neanderthal checkers playing low offensive football IQ that governs this franchise.

Smith isn't going to save us (even if he's an improvement over Canada). No Derrick Henry to mask the inferiority of the philosophy. Didn't do shit in Atlanta. Brought here to fit seamlessly under Tomlin's low offensive football IQ umbrella.

The ONLY hope of legitimate Lombardi contention with Art2/Tomlin is something like a defense as good as 2008 + Fields morphing into a Q4 playmaker pulling wins out of his ass like Ben did or a once in 20 year defense like the year the Broncos won it with suffocating defense + the noodle arm ghost of Peyton Manning at QB. Mike Tomlin is not sports strategy smart enough to win it any other way.

Tomlin's dream is to replicate the 2000 Ravens. I don't think that's possible under the current rules and in the era of Mahomes and the current 49ers. You can't win in the playoffs with an offense that is meant to burn the clock more than it's meant to score. The Steelers would be dangerous with Stroud- I don't think they're real contenders with either RW or JF.

But overall I am less grumpy about the game than I was Sunday. Numerous rookies and young guys flashed potential on both sides of the ball, the O-line looked better than expected, and- even though it couldn't score touchdowns- the offense wasn't the 3 and out machine it was under KP and Canada. Had the refs not made terrible calls on the Pickens catch and the TJ Watt strip sack, the score would have been more lopsided. Better yet, the younger guys seem to have more fire, and we're getting rid of slugs from the past few years like Devin Bush, DJ, KP, etc.

How many points do the Steelers lose by if they played a game vs the 49ers this week? Last year it was 30-7 with nearly the same defense and with SF not even trying to score for a half of football.

[Orangesteel]

True. But there is a chasm right now in terms of where the Chiefs and Niners are at and the rest of the league.

Maaaaaaaybe Detroit on a day where their offense and defense are running flawlessly and I think the Ravens and perhaps the Chargers or maybe Buffalo have some talent that could at least make it a game with the Chiefs, but it seems like KC and SF are headed for another Super Bowl collision course.

We are all just here to watch.

[steelmann58]

take the win and hopefully continue to build need guys to win game getting TD.

[955876]

We've all seen this script play out over the last several years. Otherwise I could find plenty in that game to be optimistic about.

That is the key here.

A win is a win when taken on a week to week basis and in a vacuum.

Doesn’t matter how you get it.

This team however has severely regressed into one of the worst offensive teams in football over the past few years with no signs of breaking out of that funk.

So bigger picture, we are relegated to rooting for NHALS and maybe a playoff beat down.

I’m willing to give the offense time for oline to gel and see what Wilson has left but that WR room after Pickens is flat out awful.

I'm not really accepting that, 95. The defense appears to be assessed by most as improved over last years. And let's not forget, last years playoff loss was minus TJ Watt. I'm hopeful of 2-0 after next weeks trip to denver

Not sure what in my post you aren’t accepting of.

So the defense is improved. And?

Have you watched the scoring that takes place in the postseason these days?

All I’m saying is the win is great but big picture this team, with this offense, isn’t a co tender to compete.

And that is the problem with Jibbs. He only looks as far as this Sunday. Never has a bigger picture plan to actually improve the team where it matters.

I’m not shitting on the win. Just yawning while saying we’ve seen this movie before.