If Fields continues to win, do we trade Wilson?

[TimmayLake]

Fields is young and has much more upside than Wilson...even if Wilson is healthy do you displace Fields if he continues to win? I'd say trade Wilson for a 6th and call it a day.

[Dan Smith--BYU]

They filled the second most important position on Denver's dime, why should they trade him?

[K_C_]

They filled the second most important position on Denver's dime, why should they trade him?

2 reasons. 1) Russ is old and his body could be in the process of breaking down. He's not even the backup yet and that calf sure is taking a long time to get right. 2) Russ isn't going to be a Steeler next year.

If a desperate team like the Dolphins were to come calling, I would take a second rounder for Russ in a second. Nothing lower than that, obviously but if you can get a high draft choice for an injured older QB who could be coming to the end of the line and won't be a Steeler next year, you do that in a second.

[K_C_]

https://www.yahoo.com/sports/trade-russ ... 11904.html

[W&M_Steeler]

They filled the second most important position on Denver's dime, why should they trade him?

2 reasons. 1) Russ is old and his body could be in the process of breaking down. He's not even the backup yet and that calf sure is taking a long time to get right. 2) Russ isn't going to be a Steeler next year.

If a desperate team like the Dolphins were to come calling, I would take a second rounder for Russ in a second. Nothing lower than that, obviously but if you can get a high draft choice for an injured older QB who could be coming to the end of the line and won't be a Steeler next year, you do that in a second.

I would also, but I think the Tomlin Steelers are too risk adverse and current season focused for that. I don't see them trading away a a solid back-up QB. If Russ is too injured to be the back-up with the Steelers, then other teams aren't going to trade for him. The only way I see a trade happening is if Russ becomes a malcontent and lobbies for a trade.

[Jobu]

The only way I see a trade happening is if Russ becomes a malcontent and lobbies for a trade.

Very possible.
Russ is looking for one final lucrative contract. He isn’t getting that standing on the sidelines. If he’s the certain backup, he’s going to want out. Of course, he has to get healthy first.
All that said, I’m not 100% certain that he isn’t immediately going into the Steelers lineup if/when he’s determined able. I mean, he was basically handed the starting job without doing much of anything in camp or the preseason games.

[LakecrestSteeler]

The only way I see a trade happening is if Russ becomes a malcontent and lobbies for a trade.

Very possible.
Russ is looking for one final lucrative contract. He isn’t getting that standing on the sidelines. If he’s the certain backup, he’s going to want out. Of course, he has to get healthy first.
All that said, I’m not 100% certain that he isn’t immediately going into the Steelers lineup if/when he’s determined able. I mean, he was basically handed the starting job without doing much of anything in camp or the preseason games.

Tomlinism- “Starters don’t lose their jobs because of injury”

Pickett lost his job because of injury and someone’s hand-picked incompetent getting shit-canned!

However, Russ has never started! Error56 on Tomlin computer code.

[K_C_]

The only way I see a trade happening is if Russ becomes a malcontent and lobbies for a trade.

Very possible.
Russ is looking for one final lucrative contract. He isn’t getting that standing on the sidelines. If he’s the certain backup, he’s going to want out. Of course, he has to get healthy first.
All that said, I’m not 100% certain that he isn’t immediately going into the Steelers lineup if/when he’s determined able. I mean, he was basically handed the starting job without doing much of anything in camp or the preseason games.

Russ doesn’t need another lucrative contract. His Denver money will set him and generations to follow basically forever.

No sir. Russ will want to start because before the disaster in Denver, Russ had a very good shot at the Hall of Fame.

Russ is playing (or I should say, he wants to play. Definitely wants to start as soon as he’s healthy) for his legacy.

Another deep run, which could be possible with weapons like Tyreek, Waddle, Achane, etc and Russ just might make it to Canton.

Russ isn’t going to see another big money deal. Not as his age. Dude wants to play so he gets a bust in Canton.

That’s why if Miami comes calling (and they might) I accept nothing less than a second rounder from them. Take it or leave it.

[.Kodiak]

The only way I see a trade happening is if Russ becomes a malcontent and lobbies for a trade.

Very possible.
Russ is looking for one final lucrative contract. He isn’t getting that standing on the sidelines. If he’s the certain backup, he’s going to want out. Of course, he has to get healthy first.
All that said, I’m not 100% certain that he isn’t immediately going into the Steelers lineup if/when he’s determined able. I mean, he was basically handed the starting job without doing much of anything in camp or the preseason games.

I think they want to see what they have. Fields has done a good job as a game manager, but that won't cut it come playoff time. Maybe the handcuffs come off when the OL play improves, but otherwise I think they'll want to see if Wilson has more to offer - team is basically a 2/3 WR and a QB away from being a legit contender.

Worst case scenario, as others have said, Wilson is a cheap backup. MIA isn't giving an R2 for him, but maybe an R3? It would be worth considering, since I think they lose an R4 if Fields plays 6 games.

I don't think they have any interest in trade. The majority of teams in the NFL now have to turn to a backup QB for at least a few games. Maybe anything less than an R2 is a non-starter.

[K_C_]

The only way I see a trade happening is if Russ becomes a malcontent and lobbies for a trade.

Very possible.
Russ is looking for one final lucrative contract. He isn’t getting that standing on the sidelines. If he’s the certain backup, he’s going to want out. Of course, he has to get healthy first.
All that said, I’m not 100% certain that he isn’t immediately going into the Steelers lineup if/when he’s determined able. I mean, he was basically handed the starting job without doing much of anything in camp or the preseason games.

I think they want to see what they have. Fields has done a good job as a game manager, but that won't cut it come playoff time. Maybe the handcuffs come off when the OL play improves, but otherwise I think they'll want to see if Wilson has more to offer - team is basically a 2/3 WR and a QB away from being a legit contender.

Worst case scenario, as others have said, Wilson is a cheap backup. MIA isn't giving an R2 for him, but maybe an R3? It would be worth considering, since I think they lose an R4 if Fields plays 6 games.

I don't think they have any interest in trade. The majority of teams in the NFL now have to turn to a backup QB for at least a few games. Maybe anything less than an R2 is a non-starter.

I live in South Florida. Fans are calling for McDaniel’s job. They ridiculously blame him for Tua getting injured when it was McDaniel who literally tailored an offense so Tua stay upright.

Miami is desperate as shit right now. They would give up a high pick for Wilson or Jimmy G…because they have to.

…..and Russ isn’t taking the starting job from Fields unless he gets hurt. Fields is getting more and more comfortable and the training wheels are slowly coming off. Fields fits Arthur Smith’s system far better than Russell Wilson.

[anpsteel]

For a front office and staff that lives in their fears, weekly, I think it would take a lot to get them to trade Wilson.


He'd either have to start bitching, which if I were his agent, I might strongly encourage, or the trading team would have to offer a 2nd round pick or higher. imo.

[SteelerDayTrader]

If the Steelers could get a 2nd for Russ they should take it. Allen looked good In preseason.

Less than a 2nd in this draft I wouldn’t do it

[daikyu]

Right now the starting QB job looks like it is Fields to lose.

The team generally likes to have a backup they trust. I don't think they move Russ unless they get a great offer. A 2nd would definitely do it but I can't see anyone offering a 2nd for Russ at this point.

[steelclan]

The only way I see a trade happening is if Russ becomes a malcontent and lobbies for a trade.

Very possible.
Russ is looking for one final lucrative contract. He isn’t getting that standing on the sidelines. If he’s the certain backup, he’s going to want out. Of course, he has to get healthy first.
All that said, I’m not 100% certain that he isn’t immediately going into the Steelers lineup if/when he’s determined able. I mean, he was basically handed the starting job without doing much of anything in camp or the preseason games.

I think they want to see what they have. Fields has done a good job as a game manager, but that won't cut it come playoff time. Maybe the handcuffs come off when the OL play improves, but otherwise I think they'll want to see if Wilson has more to offer - team is basically a 2/3 WR and a QB away from being a legit contender.

Worst case scenario, as others have said, Wilson is a cheap backup. MIA isn't giving an R2 for him, but maybe an R3? It would be worth considering, since I think they lose an R4 if Fields plays 6 games.

I don't think they have any interest in trade. The majority of teams in the NFL now have to turn to a backup QB for at least a few games. Maybe anything less than an R2 is a non-starter.

Actually in the playoffs that would cut it. Likely not in winning a SB but definitely to win a playoff game or maybe two. Mahomes in 3 playoff games leading up to the SB was not exactly throwing it all over the yard. He was also helped by a very good defense and a solid running game.

What Fields will have to do is make a few big plays when it counts, like Mahomes bomb on 3rd down late in 4th Q in AFCCG that ended the game.

But before PS get near that they need improvement in a ton of areas. ILB has been overall poor, Oline is having growing pains that you hope improve as season goes on and yes Austin had a nice game but is he truly going to be #2 WR? I doubt it.

Warren needs to get healthy. Really hope Highsmith injury isn't serious because if it is Herbig and Watt are going to wear down with all the snaps they will need to play.

Definitely some hope but long way to go and as tight as Steelers are playing these games not hard to see a few slipping away.

[Texas Black & Gold]

No

[anpsteel]

Very possible.
Russ is looking for one final lucrative contract. He isn’t getting that standing on the sidelines. If he’s the certain backup, he’s going to want out. Of course, he has to get healthy first.
All that said, I’m not 100% certain that he isn’t immediately going into the Steelers lineup if/when he’s determined able. I mean, he was basically handed the starting job without doing much of anything in camp or the preseason games.

I think they want to see what they have. Fields has done a good job as a game manager, but that won't cut it come playoff time. Maybe the handcuffs come off when the OL play improves, but otherwise I think they'll want to see if Wilson has more to offer - team is basically a 2/3 WR and a QB away from being a legit contender.

Worst case scenario, as others have said, Wilson is a cheap backup. MIA isn't giving an R2 for him, but maybe an R3? It would be worth considering, since I think they lose an R4 if Fields plays 6 games.

I don't think they have any interest in trade. The majority of teams in the NFL now have to turn to a backup QB for at least a few games. Maybe anything less than an R2 is a non-starter.

Actually in the playoffs that would cut it. Likely not in winning a SB but definitely to win a playoff game or maybe two. Mahomes in 3 playoff games leading up to the SB was not exactly throwing it all over the yard. He was also helped by a very good defense and a solid running game.

What Fields will have to do is make a few big plays when it counts, like Mahomes bomb on 3rd down late in 4th Q in AFCCG that ended the game.

But before PS get near that they need improvement in a ton of areas. ILB has been overall poor, Oline is having growing pains that you hope improve as season goes on and yes Austin had a nice game but is he truly going to be #2 WR? I doubt it.

Warren needs to get healthy. Really hope Highsmith injury isn't serious because if it is Herbig and Watt are going to wear down with all the snaps they will need to play.

Definitely some hope but long way to go and as tight as Steelers are playing these games not hard to see a few slipping away.

The problem is, should the Steelers make the playoffs, Tomlin will have them run essentially the exact same scheme on both sides of the ball that they have for the past 30+ years

So they’ll get boat raced to start the game, and whoever’s at quarterback is going to have to play catch-up

I don’t know if it matters whether or not that’s fields or Wilson, but that’s been the pattern the last six years or so

So boring Tomlin, making a dramatic change in his philosophical approach to playoff games and scheming, all the things that we are talking about are irrelevant

[steelclan]

I think they want to see what they have. Fields has done a good job as a game manager, but that won't cut it come playoff time. Maybe the handcuffs come off when the OL play improves, but otherwise I think they'll want to see if Wilson has more to offer - team is basically a 2/3 WR and a QB away from being a legit contender.

Worst case scenario, as others have said, Wilson is a cheap backup. MIA isn't giving an R2 for him, but maybe an R3? It would be worth considering, since I think they lose an R4 if Fields plays 6 games.

I don't think they have any interest in trade. The majority of teams in the NFL now have to turn to a backup QB for at least a few games. Maybe anything less than an R2 is a non-starter.

Actually in the playoffs that would cut it. Likely not in winning a SB but definitely to win a playoff game or maybe two. Mahomes in 3 playoff games leading up to the SB was not exactly throwing it all over the yard. He was also helped by a very good defense and a solid running game.

What Fields will have to do is make a few big plays when it counts, like Mahomes bomb on 3rd down late in 4th Q in AFCCG that ended the game.

But before PS get near that they need improvement in a ton of areas. ILB has been overall poor, Oline is having growing pains that you hope improve as season goes on and yes Austin had a nice game but is he truly going to be #2 WR? I doubt it.

Warren needs to get healthy. Really hope Highsmith injury isn't serious because if it is Herbig and Watt are going to wear down with all the snaps they will need to play.

Definitely some hope but long way to go and as tight as Steelers are playing these games not hard to see a few slipping away.

The problem is, should the Steelers make the playoffs, Tomlin will have them run essentially the exact same scheme on both sides of the ball that they have for the past 30+ years

So they’ll get boat raced to start the game, and whoever’s at quarterback is going to have to play catch-up

I don’t know if it matters whether or not that’s fields or Wilson, but that’s been the pattern the last six years or so

So boring Tomlin, making a dramatic change in his philosophical approach to playoff games and scheming, all the things that we are talking about are irrelevant

MM this isn't true. In Bills game they moved the ball, untimely Int killed chance to make Bills really sweat. That was with part time OC and Mason Rudolph. If oline improves and Fields does also, and they make playoffs every chance they can win a game.

[anpsteel]

Actually in the playoffs that would cut it. Likely not in winning a SB but definitely to win a playoff game or maybe two. Mahomes in 3 playoff games leading up to the SB was not exactly throwing it all over the yard. He was also helped by a very good defense and a solid running game.

What Fields will have to do is make a few big plays when it counts, like Mahomes bomb on 3rd down late in 4th Q in AFCCG that ended the game.

But before PS get near that they need improvement in a ton of areas. ILB has been overall poor, Oline is having growing pains that you hope improve as season goes on and yes Austin had a nice game but is he truly going to be #2 WR? I doubt it.

Warren needs to get healthy. Really hope Highsmith injury isn't serious because if it is Herbig and Watt are going to wear down with all the snaps they will need to play.

Definitely some hope but long way to go and as tight as Steelers are playing these games not hard to see a few slipping away.

The problem is, should the Steelers make the playoffs, Tomlin will have them run essentially the exact same scheme on both sides of the ball that they have for the past 30+ years

So they’ll get boat raced to start the game, and whoever’s at quarterback is going to have to play catch-up

I don’t know if it matters whether or not that’s fields or Wilson, but that’s been the pattern the last six years or so

So boring Tomlin, making a dramatic change in his philosophical approach to playoff games and scheming, all the things that we are talking about are irrelevant

MM this isn't true. In Bills game they moved the ball, untimely Int killed chance to make Bills really sweat. That was with part time OC and Mason Rudolph. If oline improves and Fields does also, and they make playoffs every chance they can win a game.

One game, and only slightly one game, does not overcome a career.

Belichick, whether intentionally or not, roasted Tomlin a couple weeks ago.

I'm paraphrasing- but only slightly

"They run the same thing, no matter who's at QB, who the coordinators are, no matter what decade we're in." "Coach Tomlin does what he does."

[Steelperch]

It’s an 18 game season (17 regular plus one playoff). You don’t trade away a future HOF QB who is playing for minimum wage when your starter is a running QB who will take some shots. Not unless somebody offers a 1 or maybe a 2 for him.

[anpsteel]

I think the Steelers Depot people are reading this board

lol

[K_C_]

It’s an 18 game season (17 regular plus one playoff). You don’t trade away a future HOF QB who is playing for minimum wage when your starter is a running QB who will take some shots. Not unless somebody offers a 1 or maybe a 2 for him.

Miami might just have to offer a 2 for Wilson.

Did you watch that game yesterday? Skylar Thompson made Mitch Trubisky look like Joe Montana and they’re down to Tim Boyle and Snoop Huntley.

Miami is paying a lot of guys big ass money to play for the first pick in next year’s draft.

They are built to win now and are desperate. Fans here want McDaniel fired.

If they call no way I’d take anything less than a 2 and if Miami bites you call Tannehill who can win you a game here or there if necessary.

Also let me add that Russell Wilson WILL NOT be happy with a back up role.

Dude is playing for his legacy. He needs to be successful as a starter somewhere to possibly get himself a bust in Canton.

Watching Justin Fields' coat on the sidelines will not help Russ's legacy. You called Wilson a "future HOF QB."

I would call him borderline at best now.

[Dan Smith--BYU]

We do that, and Fields gets hurt, we are in the same boat as Miami.

It would have to be a very very generous offer.

[Mick]

It’s an 18 game season (17 regular plus one playoff). You don’t trade away a future HOF QB who is playing for minimum wage when your starter is a running QB who will take some shots. Not unless somebody offers a 1 or maybe a 2 for him.

yeah the question is never ‘do you trade’, it’s “what would you trade him for?”

Every player has a price. For me, if you can get a 2nd for wilson, you do that.

[K_C_]

We do that, and Fields gets hurt, we are in the same boat as Miami.

It would have to be a very very generous offer.

Miami was stupid not to sign Tannehill off the couch.

The Steelers would grab him quickly after a Wilson trade. Obviously he isn't the Ryan Tannehill of 5 years ago but his familiarity with Arthur Smith's offense would help him adjust quickly and if Joe Flacco can get off the couch and play great last year, I'm sure Tannehill could win a few games for the Steelers if called upon.

Also, as STD said, Kyle Allen looked good in the preseason.

[Deebo]

For a front office and staff that lives in their fears, weekly, I think it would take a lot to get them to trade Wilson.


He'd either have to start bitching, which if I were his agent, I might strongly encourage, or the trading team would have to offer a 2nd round pick or higher. imo.

This is the correct answer. Close the thread.

[swissvale72]

For a front office and staff that lives in their fears, weekly, I think it would take a lot to get them to trade Wilson.


He'd either have to start bitching, which if I were his agent, I might strongly encourage, or the trading team would have to offer a 2nd round pick or higher. imo.

Agreed....Russ would have to make the leap from "volunteer" to "hostage."

I'm prob out to lunch on this, but I also think Russ like this team, this coach, and this city. Aren't his kids in school and all? I could see him being a big name in Pittsburgh post-retirement.

[anpsteel]

For a front office and staff that lives in their fears, weekly, I think it would take a lot to get them to trade Wilson.


He'd either have to start bitching, which if I were his agent, I might strongly encourage, or the trading team would have to offer a 2nd round pick or higher. imo.

Agreed....Russ would have to make the leap from "volunteer" to "hostage."

I'm prob out to lunch on this, but I also think Russ like this team, this coach, and this city. Aren't his kids in school and all? I could see him being a big name in Pittsburgh post-retirement.

I don't know the answer about his kids being in school, but he did spend a bunch of time in California in the off season. I got the impression that is where they live, to support his wife's career, but could be entirely wrong.

[VeritasSteel]

It’s an 18 game season (17 regular plus one playoff). You don’t trade away a future HOF QB who is playing for minimum wage when your starter is a running QB who will take some shots. Not unless somebody offers a 1 or maybe a 2 for him.

This.

Whatever you think about Wilson he’s a ton better than what’s on the couch. And a lot of yall have short fucking memories and shit that matters. Every time when Ben got hurt the season was over. Because the moment was too big for everyone else we put back there.

With all respect to swissvales history lessons- I can still see the whites in Laundry’s eyes in that 2015 Bengals playoff game that was all but won when Ben got
hurt. Then this guy started playing like he bet
against us. When he couldn’t get a handoff right we had to put an injured Ben back in there.

You can say the front office is living in their fears but Wilson ain’t going nowhere unless the Dolphins start the conversation with 1sts and 2nds. And for all those saying a 6th will get the deal done when and where do you play poker?

[.Kodiak]

And for all those saying a 6th will get the deal done when and where do you play poker?

[K_C_]

You can say the front office is living in their fears but Wilson ain’t going nowhere unless the Dolphins start the conversation with 1sts and 2nds. And for all those saying a 6th will get the deal done when and where do you play poker?

You got it.

I'm not saying trade Wilson for just anything.

The Steelers can basically name their price. If Miami balks, you tell them good luck with Snoop Huntley and Tim Boyle. I'm sure Tyreek won't be trying to run over cops or something crazy in a few weeks when he averages 14 yards on 2 catches per game.

I would ask for a 1 and "settle" for a 2nd rounder. End of story or Russell remains as Fields' backup.