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Post by TimmayLake » Tue Oct 08, 2024 12:39 pm

They drop 3 games in a row to go to 3-3. What changes would be made?

I assume we would give Wilson a try?



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Post by W&M_Steeler » Tue Oct 08, 2024 1:05 pm

TimmayLake wrote:
Tue Oct 08, 2024 12:39 pm
They drop 3 games in a row to go to 3-3. What changes would be made?

I assume we would give Wilson a try?
If they lose, maybe the Steelers bring Davante Adams with them when they leave. Tomlin & Co. have made desperate midseason trades before to save NHALS (see Minkah in 2019). I bet he'd argue to sacrifice a 1st round pick for a NHALS-saving trade.

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Post by Orangesteel » Tue Oct 08, 2024 2:21 pm

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Post by bradshaw2ben » Tue Oct 08, 2024 2:34 pm

W&M_Steeler wrote:
Tue Oct 08, 2024 1:05 pm
TimmayLake wrote:
Tue Oct 08, 2024 12:39 pm
They drop 3 games in a row to go to 3-3. What changes would be made?

I assume we would give Wilson a try?
If they lose, maybe the Steelers bring Davante Adams with them when they leave. Tomlin & Co. have made desperate midseason trades before to save NHALS (see Minkah in 2019). I bet he'd argue to sacrifice a 1st round pick for a NHALS-saving trade.
In my opinion, if they lose to go 3-3, in strongly considering NOT trading for anybody who is about NHALS, and then giving young players more of a role going forward. See what you have. Know who is dispensable. Try some more aggressive strategies. Because let me tell you, 3-3 doesn’t bode well for NHALS or a playoff spot. Not with what remains in the schedule.
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Post by Steeldrama » Tue Oct 08, 2024 2:56 pm

Because let me tell you, 3-3 doesn’t bode well for NHALS or a playoff spot. Not with what remains in the schedule.
Hey, I'm with you there B2B

Anti- NHALS all the way

BUT

The record of the Steelers remaining opponents is 22-22 (not counting the division rivals twice)

WITH 4 of those games between the 1-4 Browns AND Bengals.

Two games left against the rival 3-2 Rats, but Tomlin has won 7 of 8 against them.

The Jets are coming up in 2 weeks. They just fired their head coach.

Anyway

Let's not rely on the schedule to defeat NHALS (It's not NEARLY as daunting as it looked in the off-season)

WAY too many injuries and other variables waiting to strike both the Steelers AND more importantly their opponents.
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Post by Mick » Tue Oct 08, 2024 3:04 pm

bradshaw2ben wrote:
Tue Oct 08, 2024 2:34 pm
W&M_Steeler wrote:
Tue Oct 08, 2024 1:05 pm
TimmayLake wrote:
Tue Oct 08, 2024 12:39 pm
They drop 3 games in a row to go to 3-3. What changes would be made?

I assume we would give Wilson a try?
If they lose, maybe the Steelers bring Davante Adams with them when they leave. Tomlin & Co. have made desperate midseason trades before to save NHALS (see Minkah in 2019). I bet he'd argue to sacrifice a 1st round pick for a NHALS-saving trade.
In my opinion, if they lose to go 3-3, in strongly considering NOT trading for anybody who is about NHALS, and then giving young players more of a role going forward. See what you have. Know who is dispensable. Try some more aggressive strategies. Because let me tell you, 3-3 doesn’t bode well for NHALS or a playoff spot. Not with what remains in the schedule.
Not sure what young players you are imagining, but as is normal for bad teams, the young players on our roster are generally getting all the snaps they can handle and more.

I mean, fautanu is on IR, and watts on IR, and Lee on IR, and Trice on IR, herbig started and just down etc, but Frazier/Payton Wilson/McCormick/Jones/Porter/Benton/washington are approaching every down player territory. I guess there’s some UDFAs? Because we’re all watching this thinking “we need more Beanie Bishop types in this lineup.”

Honestly, the only top 80 pick from the past 4 draft classes that isn’t injured or getting high snapcount for us is Kenny Pickett.

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Post by bradshaw2ben » Tue Oct 08, 2024 3:05 pm

Steeldrama wrote:
Tue Oct 08, 2024 2:56 pm
Because let me tell you, 3-3 doesn’t bode well for NHALS or a playoff spot. Not with what remains in the schedule.
Hey, I'm with you there B2B

Anti- NHALS all the way

BUT

The record of the Steelers remaining opponents is 22-22 (That's .500)

WITH 4 of those games between the 1-4 Browns AND Bengals.

Two games left against the rival 3-2 Rats, but Tomlin has won 7 of 8 against them.

The Jets are coming up in 2 weeks. They just fired their head coach.

Anyway

Let's not rely on the schedule to defeat NHALS (It's not NEARLY as daunting as it looked in the off-season)

WAY too many injuries and other variables waiting to strike both the Steelers AND more importantly their opponents.
Obviously what you say is true, but I wouldn't be counting on previous results when it comes to the Ravens this year. They're playing much better ball offensively. Monken has built something special with the piece he was given. And Cincy probably the best 1-4 team in memory. They might not make the playoffs but it's not like the Steelers are going to be favored in both games.

And although injuries are indeed a wildcard, they're beginning to mount for the Steelers for a change. Also, the Steelers D gets worn down as the season goes on, so they'd have to improve significantly on offense to win at a similar level to where they are now.

If Nick Chubb is back and healthy for the Browns, I think the Steelers go 2-4 in the division. Lose at KC. Lose at Philly. Things could change but Washington looks like a loss..Even 3-3 in the division and stealing one of the others is 4-4 after the bye. That's why I say they need to get to 5-4 before the bye to have a realistic shot at NHALS. 6-3 makes it doable.
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Post by W&M_Steeler » Tue Oct 08, 2024 3:28 pm

If they win against the Raiders, then 6-2 at the bye seems realistic, and 5-3 likely. If they lose against the Raiders, then NHALS might be in trouble.

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Post by bradshaw2ben » Tue Oct 08, 2024 4:08 pm

W&M_Steeler wrote:
Tue Oct 08, 2024 3:28 pm
If they win against the Raiders, then 6-2 at the bye seems realistic, and 5-3 likely. If they lose against the Raiders, then NHALS might be in trouble.
IDK what the Jets OT situation or the Steelers EDGE situation is going to look like by the time they meet, but I would think that otherwise the Jets are a team who could present issues for the Steelers on both sides of the ball. I think the Steelers are presently only slightly better than the Giants and Raiders. That's 3 games you're counting on as wins that might not be as easy as we'd like to think.
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Post by bradshaw2ben » Tue Oct 08, 2024 4:10 pm

W&M_Steeler wrote:
Tue Oct 08, 2024 3:28 pm
If they win against the Raiders, then 6-2 at the bye seems realistic, and 5-3 likely. If they lose against the Raiders, then NHALS might be in trouble.
They'd better get to 6 wins before the bye, because 4 wins in the last 9 would be some combo of miraculous + lucky as shit.
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Post by W&M_Steeler » Tue Oct 08, 2024 4:18 pm

bradshaw2ben wrote:
Tue Oct 08, 2024 4:08 pm
W&M_Steeler wrote:
Tue Oct 08, 2024 3:28 pm
If they win against the Raiders, then 6-2 at the bye seems realistic, and 5-3 likely. If they lose against the Raiders, then NHALS might be in trouble.
IDK what the Jets OT situation or the Steelers EDGE situation is going to look like by the time they meet, but I would think that otherwise the Jets are a team who could present issues for the Steelers on both sides of the ball. I think the Steelers are presently only slightly better than the Giants and Raiders. That's 3 games you're counting on as wins that might not be as easy as we'd like to think.
I don't think any of the games will be easy, just that I think they're probably slightly more in Steelers' favor than coin flip games. The Steelers probably have an advantage given the Raiders' issues at QB and the Jets in disarray.

2-1 seems reasonable over next 3 games, which would be 1-1 after beating Raiders. 3-0 isn't farfetched. I think the Steelers probably eke out wins in barely watchable close games. But if they don't- if they go 1-2 or 0-3 over the next 3- then NHALS might be in serious trouble. Now's the time to stack wins, because best case there probably aren't more than 5 wins after the bye given how much better Washington is than expected.

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Post by SteelerDayTrader » Tue Oct 08, 2024 4:28 pm

bradshaw2ben wrote:
Tue Oct 08, 2024 4:10 pm
W&M_Steeler wrote:
Tue Oct 08, 2024 3:28 pm
If they win against the Raiders, then 6-2 at the bye seems realistic, and 5-3 likely. If they lose against the Raiders, then NHALS might be in trouble.
They'd better get to 6 wins before the bye, because 4 wins in the last 9 would be some combo of miraculous + lucky as shit.
Raiders
Giants
Jets

Lets pretend we eke out 3 wins to get to 6-2

They aren’t beating the Chiefs

If Jayden Daniels stays on course they aren’t beating the Indigenous Peoples Football Team Of The Potomac Region

The Eagles ? Headcase team but much better roster than the Steelers

Then 6 AFC North games ? They are losing AT LEAST 3 of those and probably more


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Post by TimmayLake » Tue Oct 08, 2024 5:24 pm

bradshaw2ben wrote:
Tue Oct 08, 2024 4:08 pm
W&M_Steeler wrote:
Tue Oct 08, 2024 3:28 pm
If they win against the Raiders, then 6-2 at the bye seems realistic, and 5-3 likely. If they lose against the Raiders, then NHALS might be in trouble.
IDK what the Jets OT situation or the Steelers EDGE situation is going to look like by the time they meet, but I would think that otherwise the Jets are a team who could present issues for the Steelers on both sides of the ball. I think the Steelers are presently only slightly better than the Giants and Raiders. That's 3 games you're counting on as wins that might not be as easy as we'd like to think.
If Rodgers only has to worry about Watt I think the Jets win, perhaps by multiple TDs.

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Post by Who Dee Knee » Wed Oct 09, 2024 4:01 am

bradshaw2ben wrote:
Tue Oct 08, 2024 3:05 pm
Steeldrama wrote:
Tue Oct 08, 2024 2:56 pm
Because let me tell you, 3-3 doesn’t bode well for NHALS or a playoff spot. Not with what remains in the schedule.
Hey, I'm with you there B2B

Anti- NHALS all the way

BUT

The record of the Steelers remaining opponents is 22-22 (That's .500)

WITH 4 of those games between the 1-4 Browns AND Bengals.

Two games left against the rival 3-2 Rats, but Tomlin has won 7 of 8 against them.

The Jets are coming up in 2 weeks. They just fired their head coach.

Anyway

Let's not rely on the schedule to defeat NHALS (It's not NEARLY as daunting as it looked in the off-season)

WAY too many injuries and other variables waiting to strike both the Steelers AND more importantly their opponents.
Obviously what you say is true, but I wouldn't be counting on previous results when it comes to the Ravens this year. They're playing much better ball offensively. Monken has built something special with the piece he was given. And Cincy probably the best 1-4 team in memory. They might not make the playoffs but it's not like the Steelers are going to be favored in both games.

And although injuries are indeed a wildcard, they're beginning to mount for the Steelers for a change. Also, the Steelers D gets worn down as the season goes on, so they'd have to improve significantly on offense to win at a similar level to where they are now.

If Nick Chubb is back and healthy for the Browns, I think the Steelers go 2-4 in the division. Lose at KC. Lose at Philly. Things could change but Washington looks like a loss..Even 3-3 in the division and stealing one of the others is 4-4 after the bye. That's why I say they need to get to 5-4 before the bye to have a realistic shot at NHALS. 6-3 makes it doable.
Wil, I don’t ever think I’ve seen a Raven team with such a crappy defense though. Not that in matters in the case of the Steelers since they suck more on offense.

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Post by K_C_ » Wed Oct 09, 2024 12:17 pm

If they lose to the Raiders some extremely desperate move will be made by Cool Shades.

Roman Wilson will be allowed to get on the moving train.
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Post by stillthere » Wed Oct 09, 2024 7:01 pm

K_C_ wrote:
Wed Oct 09, 2024 12:17 pm
If they lose to the Raiders some extremely desperate move will be made by Cool Shades.

Roman Wilson will be allowed to get on the moving train.


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