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Trade Pickens to KC

Post by TimmayLake » Mon Oct 07, 2024 10:14 am

We did it to Diontae, do it to Pickens too. This team isn’t going anywhere until we have a new HC. Frankly we might consider trading Watt too.



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Post by K_C_ » Mon Oct 07, 2024 10:19 am

Both are quite realistic scenarios.
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Post by SteelerDayTrader » Mon Oct 07, 2024 11:29 am

Pickens will walk after next year

I’ll be surprised if we don’t get at least a 4th rd comp for him and a 3rd is definitely possible

Low Watt is gonna continue his disappearing act through the end of this a few years from now AND probably get another contract/extension on top of that if I know the Steelers
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Post by StillerInCT » Mon Oct 07, 2024 11:47 am

Trade Pickens to KC for picks. Use those picks to draft run blocking TEs who can be relied on to make the occasional catch. Find a serviceable QB every year in the 6th or 7th round who can reliably handle snaps and hand the ball off. Use the money you save on a franchise QB to draft linemen to the point where we have two rotating offensive lines to keep guys fresh. Go full on fuckin' wing-T. If we're going to play the most boring brand of football in the league we might as well go all-in on it.
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Post by langer » Mon Oct 07, 2024 12:10 pm

This is marvelous word salad, maybe he could run for President with this level of bullshit that doesn't get called out.

"You know we just wanted to kind of minimize his reps in an effort to get more productivity. Just trying to rep-manage in terms of the totality of the big picture. He wasn't less of a focal point in terms of our intentions in what we wanted to do offensively but we did want to cut his reps a little bit in an effort to get higher quality play. Just in general."
"I'm institutionalized, man," he joked. "I gotta have it. I just love the challenges week in and week out that this job provides: the growth in it, the collective growth, the individual growth."

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Post by Ice » Mon Oct 07, 2024 12:22 pm

langer wrote:
Mon Oct 07, 2024 12:10 pm
This is marvelous word salad, maybe he could run for President with this level of bullshit that doesn't get called out.

"You know we just wanted to kind of minimize his reps in an effort to get more productivity. Just trying to rep-manage in terms of the totality of the big picture. He wasn't less of a focal point in terms of our intentions in what we wanted to do offensively but we did want to cut his reps a little bit in an effort to get higher quality play. Just in general."
That might be one of the dumber things I've heard him say, and that's saying something.
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Post by TimmayLake » Mon Oct 07, 2024 12:31 pm

So the fewer opportunities you give Pickens, the more productive he will be. Interesting concept, Mike.

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Post by langer » Mon Oct 07, 2024 12:41 pm

Everyone wants to play for a genius like Coach Mike.

Coach Mike knows how to extract every last drop of football out of players.

Coach knows how to relate to and talk to these young players.

Coach is gifted at motivating young players, that's why everyone wants to play for him.

It's all bullshit, and always has been.

So he cuts Pickens reps, in an effort to motivate him, but instead makes the head case more of a head case and ensures a loss against an ailing Dallas.

He literally is a genius.

No wideout worth a shit would come here. Bad QB, bad QBs, clusterfuck up and down the sideline, and Coach plays stupid games with their careers that are totally unnecessary costing them millions.
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Post by tbsteel » Mon Oct 07, 2024 12:49 pm

SteelerDayTrader wrote:
Mon Oct 07, 2024 11:29 am
Pickens will walk after next year

I’ll be surprised if we don’t get at least a 4th rd comp for him and a 3rd is definitely possible

Low Watt is gonna continue his disappearing act through the end of this a few years from now AND probably get another contract/extension on top of that if I know the Steelers

I think he holds out prior to next season and demands a trade. Given our WR room, he'll have a ton of leverage.
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Post by Ovie » Mon Oct 07, 2024 12:49 pm

No wideout? How bout no skill position player on offense at all would want any part of this offense? Wow it's worse than pathetic.

Btw, if you're watching, Najee was once again the lowest producing RB in terms of ypc on the field for either team in the game. Lower than the two backups behind him. Lower than anyone on the other team.

Honestly, is there another NFL team whose offense is so unsophisticated, they don't have mechanisms in place to audible out of 9 man boxes?

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Post by TimmayLake » Mon Oct 07, 2024 12:55 pm

I think we all agree, the Steelers offense is the least scary in the NFL.

Our biggest playmaker is George Pickens, who on most teams would be a WR2. Behind him, we have....Connor Heyward?

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Post by W&M_Steeler » Mon Oct 07, 2024 12:59 pm

TimmayLake wrote:
Mon Oct 07, 2024 12:55 pm
I think we all agree, the Steelers offense is the least scary in the NFL.

Our biggest playmaker is George Pickens, who on most teams would be a WR2. Behind him, we have....Connor Heyward?
Plus Pickens is a total diva headcase weirdo. The writing is on the wall with that guy- he's not the long term solution for the Steelers at WR.

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Post by SteelerDayTrader » Mon Oct 07, 2024 1:10 pm

tbsteel wrote:
Mon Oct 07, 2024 12:49 pm
SteelerDayTrader wrote:
Mon Oct 07, 2024 11:29 am
Pickens will walk after next year

I’ll be surprised if we don’t get at least a 4th rd comp for him and a 3rd is definitely possible

Low Watt is gonna continue his disappearing act through the end of this a few years from now AND probably get another contract/extension on top of that if I know the Steelers

I think he holds out prior to next season and demands a trade. Given our WR room, he'll have1 a ton of leverage.
I doubt it……if…….he has a decent agent

1. Unlikely he wants to remain in Pittsburgh so the holdout in a contract year becomes….trade me….im gonna sit out my contract year……I’m gonna be a camp/season opener problem my contract year. If he has a good agent I doubt he lets that happen

2. I think he probably has a rep around the league as “potentially” a problem player. He’s had numerous issues. I suspect a minor bidding war for him when he hits FA but unless he really turns it around this year or next I don’t think it’s gonna break records the way his talent potentially could’ve. I think the rest of the league gets that the Steelers hate WRs and offense but I also think they are probably at least a little wary of breaking the bank for a WR who has quit on plays, ran his mouth too much in public, pouted during games, etc etc. They aren’t not gonna go after him but I doubt they break records in FA

And sitting out the whole season would really pinch the Steelers but they’ve gotta be thinking they are getting at least a 4th comp and maybe a 3rd

I would think they wouldn’t give him up for less than a 3rd


IDK ?? Could it happen ?? Sure


He will get a lot more money and have more control where he goes if he tries hard and plays well


He’s the only guy anyone should really fear on the offense and they seem intent on limiting his plays…..so……maybe he just says fuck it lol
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Post by Ovie » Mon Oct 07, 2024 1:11 pm

W&M_Steeler wrote:
Mon Oct 07, 2024 12:59 pm
TimmayLake wrote:
Mon Oct 07, 2024 12:55 pm
I think we all agree, the Steelers offense is the least scary in the NFL.

Our biggest playmaker is George Pickens, who on most teams would be a WR2. Behind him, we have....Connor Heyward?
Plus Pickens is a total diva headcase weirdo. The writing is on the wall with that guy- he's not the long term solution for the Steelers at WR.
I'm not defending Pickens. But let's be real: What WR1 wouldn't turn into a head case dealing with this offensive philosophy we've seen here for years? We seem to kill WR1's about as frequently as Chicago kills QB's.

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Post by SteelerDayTrader » Mon Oct 07, 2024 1:15 pm

W&M_Steeler wrote:
Mon Oct 07, 2024 12:59 pm
TimmayLake wrote:
Mon Oct 07, 2024 12:55 pm
I think we all agree, the Steelers offense is the least scary in the NFL.

Our biggest playmaker is George Pickens, who on most teams would be a WR2. Behind him, we have....Connor Heyward?
Plus Pickens is a total diva headcase weirdo. The writing is on the wall with that guy- he's not the long term solution for the Steelers at WR.
He should be

Easily the best Steelers WR in a while

88 82 10 are a cut above

86 84…..Pickens has more raw talent
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Post by SteelerDayTrader » Mon Oct 07, 2024 1:16 pm

Ovie wrote:
Mon Oct 07, 2024 1:11 pm
W&M_Steeler wrote:
Mon Oct 07, 2024 12:59 pm
TimmayLake wrote:
Mon Oct 07, 2024 12:55 pm
I think we all agree, the Steelers offense is the least scary in the NFL.

Our biggest playmaker is George Pickens, who on most teams would be a WR2. Behind him, we have....Connor Heyward?
Plus Pickens is a total diva headcase weirdo. The writing is on the wall with that guy- he's not the long term solution for the Steelers at WR.
I'm not defending Pickens. But let's be real: What WR1 wouldn't turn into a head case dealing with this offensive philosophy we've seen here for years? We seem to kill WR1's about as frequently as Chicago kills QB's.
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Post by W&M_Steeler » Mon Oct 07, 2024 1:25 pm

Ovie wrote:
Mon Oct 07, 2024 1:11 pm
W&M_Steeler wrote:
Mon Oct 07, 2024 12:59 pm
TimmayLake wrote:
Mon Oct 07, 2024 12:55 pm
I think we all agree, the Steelers offense is the least scary in the NFL.

Our biggest playmaker is George Pickens, who on most teams would be a WR2. Behind him, we have....Connor Heyward?
Plus Pickens is a total diva headcase weirdo. The writing is on the wall with that guy- he's not the long term solution for the Steelers at WR.
I'm not defending Pickens. But let's be real: What WR1 wouldn't turn into a head case dealing with this offensive philosophy we've seen here for years? We seem to kill WR1's about as frequently as Chicago kills QB's.
I agree to an extent, but Pickens fell in the draft because of his known personality issues. Remember him on draft night when he was wearing his balaclava? He's just a strange guy.

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Maybe he would work out somewhere else, but he's not a good fit here.

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Post by DP39 » Mon Oct 07, 2024 3:13 pm

langer wrote:
Mon Oct 07, 2024 12:41 pm
Everyone wants to play for a genius like Coach Mike.

Coach Mike knows how to extract every last drop of football out of players.

Coach knows how to relate to and talk to these young players.

Coach is gifted at motivating young players, that's why everyone wants to play for him.


It's all bullshit, and always has been.

So he cuts Pickens reps, in an effort to motivate him, but instead makes the head case more of a head case and ensures a loss against an ailing Dallas.

He literally is a genius.


No wideout worth a shit would come here. Bad QB, bad QBs, clusterfuck up and down the sideline, and Coach plays stupid games with their careers that are totally unnecessary costing them millions.
In other words: "It's the blind leading the blind!" :roll: As I've said so many times here.

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Post by Orangesteel » Mon Oct 07, 2024 3:16 pm

TimmayLake wrote:
Mon Oct 07, 2024 12:31 pm
So the fewer opportunities you give Pickens, the more productive he will be. Interesting concept, Mike.
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Post by gojira5150 » Mon Oct 07, 2024 3:16 pm

TimmayLake wrote:
Mon Oct 07, 2024 10:14 am
We did it to Diontae, do it to Pickens too. This team isn’t going anywhere until we have a new HC. Frankly we might consider trading Watt too.
Along with Fitzpatrick. Let the Big Scammer & Najee go. Time to move on from both. Time to rebuild and Watt, Pickens, Highsmith & Minkah could bring in a nice haul. Young fast dudes who fly around.
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Post by StillerInCT » Mon Oct 07, 2024 3:26 pm

langer wrote:
Mon Oct 07, 2024 12:10 pm
This is marvelous word salad, maybe he could run for President with this level of bullshit that doesn't get called out.

"You know we just wanted to kind of minimize his reps in an effort to get more productivity. Just trying to rep-manage in terms of the totality of the big picture. He wasn't less of a focal point in terms of our intentions in what we wanted to do offensively but we did want to cut his reps a little bit in an effort to get higher quality play. Just in general."
Wait...what the fuck? George isn't involved enough on offense to require rep management. Dude is just out there running routes for the sake of running routes.
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Post by StillerInCT » Mon Oct 07, 2024 3:30 pm

SteelerDayTrader wrote:
Mon Oct 07, 2024 1:15 pm
W&M_Steeler wrote:
Mon Oct 07, 2024 12:59 pm
TimmayLake wrote:
Mon Oct 07, 2024 12:55 pm
I think we all agree, the Steelers offense is the least scary in the NFL.

Our biggest playmaker is George Pickens, who on most teams would be a WR2. Behind him, we have....Connor Heyward?
Plus Pickens is a total diva headcase weirdo. The writing is on the wall with that guy- he's not the long term solution for the Steelers at WR.
He should be

Easily the best Steelers WR in a while

88 82 10 are a cut above

86 84…..Pickens has more raw talent
If we actually used him as a legitimate weapon he'd be a top 5 to 10 WR in football. The dude is an athlete that catches anything near him. I can't
believe we wasted the time he was here to run this 'offense'. In no scenario should he sign an extension here. He should take his talents to somewhere like Washington because Daniels looks like the real deal.
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Post by .Kodiak » Mon Oct 07, 2024 3:30 pm

Makes no sense to trade star players for draft picks when we've mostly been unable to develop anyone.

Drafting hasn't been that great, either. At least on offense. The defense has been propped up with the money that would go to the offense if they were drafting great players.

Come to grips with the fact this team isn't contending again so long as Tomlin is HC.

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Post by SDSteelerFan » Mon Oct 07, 2024 7:19 pm

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Pickens bothers me. Hoping he's part of a trade package this week. For Adams for example. I'm wondering if that's part of what limited his reps.

I don't believe Pickens will be successful on any team. He's not a professional. My hunch is he'll fade away and become a "Former NFL player..." headline.

Would still be in the same boat with needing a number 2 receiver. And 3....

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Post by Jobu » Mon Oct 07, 2024 7:36 pm

I don't believe Pickens will be successful on any team.
I agree. He’s low effort…he’s a loser!

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Post by Rod & Wire Mill » Mon Oct 07, 2024 7:55 pm

AB, Alien, tik tok boy, maple syrup soaked asshole, Dionte, now pick a peck a squirrel food, whatever this is, it ain’t random. Whoops, forgot Limas.
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Post by Deebo » Mon Oct 07, 2024 8:01 pm

Jobu wrote:
Mon Oct 07, 2024 7:36 pm
I don't believe Pickens will be successful on any team.
I agree. He’s low effort…he’s a loser!
I think Pickens is wired differently. I don't think he's a loser.

I bet if you told him he'd be getting all the snaps instead of Jefferson, you'd see a renewed spark in his game.

But if you're only gonna play 22 snaps in a game where you trailed or were tied most of the way, how much effort are you going to put in?

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Post by Rod & Wire Mill » Mon Oct 07, 2024 8:08 pm

It’s really ironic because Pickens is perfect for the u-shaped-back shoulder-combat catch passing offense. He’s even getting good at coming up short of the sticks.

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Post by anpsteel » Mon Oct 07, 2024 8:17 pm

gojira5150 wrote:
Mon Oct 07, 2024 3:16 pm
TimmayLake wrote:
Mon Oct 07, 2024 10:14 am
We did it to Diontae, do it to Pickens too. This team isn’t going anywhere until we have a new HC. Frankly we might consider trading Watt too.
Along with Fitzpatrick. Let the Big Scammer & Najee go. Time to move on from both. Time to rebuild and Watt, Pickens, Highsmith & Minkah could bring in a nice haul. Young fast dudes who fly around.
I wouldn't do any of that, unless they were bringing in a new HC

There is no point in rebuilding if the person in charge of the rebuild is the same that got us here

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Post by CKSteeler » Mon Oct 07, 2024 8:21 pm

Including Pickens in a trade package for a 30 something year old WR would be the dumbest move this team could make. At least get a draft pick for the guy.

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