Wilson to get the start vs the Jets!!

[K_C_]

According to Rappaport, Pickens, etc.

Go Russ!! Tear the Jets the fuck up!!

[tbsteel]

SBI is for Wilson to throw 4 picks and the Steelers lose 27-3 with Tomlin getting roasted by the media.

[swissvale72]

Let's hope Russ lights it the fuck up!! Would be an awesome story on national tv

[Orangesteel]

National game, in the Burgh, an aging QB that wants to prove to the world that he isn’t washed against an old gray beard foe in QAaron Rodgers…I mean it certainly doesn’t lack entertainment.

Rip off the next two at home, trade for a WR and start the SB quest after the bye.

Steelers Nation… let’s ride!

[K_C_]

SBI is for Wilson to throw 4 picks and the Steelers lose 27-3 with Tomlin getting roasted by the media.

Yes!!

Then we will draft the next BIG BEN!!!

GUARANTEED!!

[jmacinwbp]

Wouldn't it be nice to get 3 passing TDs, two in the RZ, and one 60+ dime to either Pickens, CAiii, or Jefferson?

Russell has the arm & smarts to do it, if only Tomlin & Artie are bold enough to open things up, which I'm thinking they might be planning on trying to do Sunday night. A lot will depend on how well RMcCollum the backup center, and the two guards can handle QWilliams. If QW doesn't dominate, then things could go very well for the O. The Jets secondary is really banged up, and they've lost two premium starters from their Dline for the year.

Oh, and watch how the run blocking greatly improves with MPruitt coming back. He did a really nice job those first couple of weeks. Washington & Pruitt on run blocking were a pretty impressive tandem, and helped open some big holes. Heyward in there for Pruitt was a significant drop in run blocking.

I still can't believe Tomlin's making the move to go with Russ this week, Artie made it clear it wasn't his decision, and that it was Tomlin's, when asked about it during his weekly media session. Definitely not the NHALS risk aversive choice of keeping things basic with Fields, and trying to win 11 more "rock fight" (stole that from DBryan, but I like the analogy) games for the rest of the season. It has to be to see Russ try to open the offense up some.

Definitely not a NHALS friendly decision, and reinforces what I thought by the personnel moves Khan/Weidl/Tomlin have been making, & trying to make, since RWilson was released. The brain trust really thinks they are close to contending this year, and seem to be willing to take risks that are not in the best interest of NHALS to see if they're right.

[Dan Smith--BYU]

"SBI is for Wilson to throw 4 picks and the Steelers lose 27-3 with Tomlin getting roasted by the media."

Ah yes, another genius GM pushing the 4-13 tank to first round pick of next Mahomes and multiple titles. Because it works in real life just like that.

[tbsteel]

"SBI is for Wilson to throw 4 picks and the Steelers lose 27-3 with Tomlin getting roasted by the media."

Ah yes, another genius GM pushing the 4-13 tank to first round pick of next Mahomes and multiple titles. Because it works in real life just like that.

Nope, just want the albatross that is Mike Tomlin gone, as that is best SBI for the rest of the decade. But keep cheering for your 9 wins and wildcard embarrassments.

[tbsteel]

SBI is for Wilson to throw 4 picks and the Steelers lose 27-3 with Tomlin getting roasted by the media.

Yes!!

Then we will draft the next BIG BEN!!!

GUARANTEED!!

Live look at KC “gearing up” for SNF:



Why complain? We have a warm blanket in our cage and daily “feedings.” You morons don’t know how good you’ve got it!! How long do you think Fields’ contract extension should be? Hopefully it follows right after another Tomlin extension. But whatever happens, at least we cheered on our buddies!!

[K_C_]

SBI is for Wilson to throw 4 picks and the Steelers lose 27-3 with Tomlin getting roasted by the media.

Yes!!

Then we will draft the next BIG BEN!!!

GUARANTEED!!

Live look at KC “gearing up” for SNF:



Why complain? We have a warm blanket in our cage and daily “feedings.” You morons don’t know how good you’ve got it!! How long do you think Fields’ contract extension should be? Hopefully it follows right after another Tomlin extension. But whatever happens, at least we cheered on our buddies!!

Exactly what has rooting for losses during the Tomlin era got you?

Take all the time you need.

[Dan Smith--BYU]

Yeah that tank for the next franchise QB strategy has worked so well for Cleveland and Jacksonville and Washington for decades (Ok Daniels looks promising but he will get figured out with the right side passes and lets see how he adjusts).

[tbsteel]

Yes!!

Then we will draft the next BIG BEN!!!

GUARANTEED!!

Live look at KC “gearing up” for SNF:



Why complain? We have a warm blanket in our cage and daily “feedings.” You morons don’t know how good you’ve got it!! How long do you think Fields’ contract extension should be? Hopefully it follows right after another Tomlin extension. But whatever happens, at least we cheered on our buddies!!

Exactly what has rooting for losses during the Tomlin era got you?

Take all the time you need.

And what has cheering on empty calorie wins the past few years accomplished for you exactly?

Jesus dude, you're proving my point for me. But go ahead, enlighten us. Tell me how 9-8 and getting annihilated by the Texans in a wildcard game that is over in the first 10 minutes is better than bottoming out.

I'll be here all day.

Up in your ass.

Sweating it out.

[Dan Smith--BYU]

"And what has cheering on empty calorie wins the past few years accomplished for you exactly?

Jesus dude, you're proving my point for me. But go ahead, enlighten us. Tell me how 9-8 and getting annihilated by the Texans in a wildcard game that is over in the first 10 minutes is better than bottoming out."

You haven't proven that "bottoming out" is the way to the next superstar QB. KC went 12-4 in 2016 (losing the PS in the playoffs) then moved up in the draft to get Mahomes in 2017.

The last "bottom out for the prize" that almost worked was the Panthers with Cam.

Being stuck in the middle does or even succeeding does not mean you won't get a bite at the next great thing.

The middle purgatory theory more accurately applies to basketball which is a sport with only five players and one superstar has more of an outsized difference. Yet San Antonio did not make the playoffs last year.

[tbsteel]

"And what has cheering on empty calorie wins the past few years accomplished for you exactly?

Jesus dude, you're proving my point for me. But go ahead, enlighten us. Tell me how 9-8 and getting annihilated by the Texans in a wildcard game that is over in the first 10 minutes is better than bottoming out."

You haven't proven that "bottoming out" is the way to the next superstar QB. KC went 12-4 in 2016 (losing the PS in the playoffs) then moved up in the draft to get Mahomes in 2017.

The last "bottom out for the prize" that almost worked was the Panthers with Cam.

Being stuck in the middle does or even succeeding does not mean you won't get a bite at the next great thing.

The middle purgatory theory more accurately applies to basketball which is a sport with only five players and one superstar has more of an outsized difference. Yet San Antonio did not make the playoffs last year.

Why are you obsessed with this QB point that I'm not even making?

The point is Mike Tomlin.

That's all that matters.

I wouldn't want to give Mike Tomlin a high drafted QB to begin with. Would just ruin them unless the QB was just insanely talented and could make plays despite the system.

Bottoming out = Mike Tomlin retiring or forcing his way out. He's not going to want to tarnish his legacy tied to a sinking ship.

That is SBI.

[Dan Smith--BYU]

I am not convinced that a losing record will lead to a Tomlin fire either. Art could say that one losing record in 17 years is pretty good. You forget what Art's primary objective is in all the Tomlin extensions.

[tbsteel]

I am not convinced that a losing record will lead to a Tomlin fire either. Art could say that one losing record in 17 years is pretty good. You forget what Art's primary objective is in all the Tomlin extensions.

Well I know for sure what won't lead to Tomlin retiring or forcing his way out: the purgatory of 9-8/10-7 for a team that has no legitimate shot at competing for a championship. Which is what folks are cheering on now despite the consequences.

If it takes two seasons bottoming out, so be it. Short term pain for long term gain.

[Works At A Bank]

"SBI is for Wilson to throw 4 picks and the Steelers lose 27-3 with Tomlin getting roasted by the media."

Ah yes, another genius GM pushing the 4-13 tank to first round pick of next Mahomes and multiple titles. Because it works in real life just like that.

Nope, just want the albatross that is Mike Tomlin gone, as that is best SBI for the rest of the decade. But keep cheering for your 9 wins and wildcard embarrassments.

No matter what…Tomlin is here until he wants to leave. Yeah we all know he’s mediocre (at the very best) but considering ownership doesn’t care about lombardis….he ain’t going no where regardless to his record. It’s a fact even us die hard Tomlin haters have to come to grips with.

[tbsteel]

"SBI is for Wilson to throw 4 picks and the Steelers lose 27-3 with Tomlin getting roasted by the media."

Ah yes, another genius GM pushing the 4-13 tank to first round pick of next Mahomes and multiple titles. Because it works in real life just like that.

Nope, just want the albatross that is Mike Tomlin gone, as that is best SBI for the rest of the decade. But keep cheering for your 9 wins and wildcard embarrassments.

No matter what…Tomlin is here until he wants to leave.

...then we just have to make it so he wants to leave.

And you know what makes someone want to leave? Miserable failure and tarnishing your legacy.

Which is exactly what I'm cheering for.

[K_C_]

Live look at KC “gearing up” for SNF:



Why complain? We have a warm blanket in our cage and daily “feedings.” You morons don’t know how good you’ve got it!! How long do you think Fields’ contract extension should be? Hopefully it follows right after another Tomlin extension. But whatever happens, at least we cheered on our buddies!!

Exactly what has rooting for losses during the Tomlin era got you?

Take all the time you need.

And what has cheering on empty calorie wins the past few years accomplished for you exactly?

Jesus dude, you're proving my point for me. But go ahead, enlighten us. Tell me how 9-8 and getting annihilated by the Texans in a wildcard game that is over in the first 10 minutes is better than bottoming out.

I'll be here all day.

Up in your ass.

Sweating it out.

Every win is awesome and brings a huge smile to my face.

Every loss sucks, but way less so than when I was young and lived and died by every win and loss.

Part of that might be due to Mike Tomlin and me not believing he's capable of winning a Super Bowl, but this team isn't the Pirates.

I don't root for the Pirates to lose even though I've been a fan since the late 60's. I simply believe the franchise should be contracted and moved someplace where they might be able to compete.

The Steelers are always competitive and while I wish they were yearly Super Bowl contenders, they most certainly aren't the Browns.

I also, unlike you, won't pretend to know how this season is going to play out. Also, if you know it's going to play out in a wildcard loss to the Texans, why do you bother to follow the team at all?

Why watch?

Oh I know your answer will be; "I'm rooting for the Steelers to lose so they will get a higher draft choice!!"



Hey, good luck with that dude.

[tbsteel]

Part of that might be due to Mike Tomlin and me not believing he's capable of winning a Super Bowl

Glad we're on the same page, bubby.

[K_C_]

Part of that might be due to Mike Tomlin and me not believing he's capable of winning a Super Bowl

Glad we're on the same page, bubby.

We're not though....and that's okay.

I have absolutely no interest in hoping for any losses under any circumstances. None.

I'm rooting or Russell Wilson to play great and win and if he doesn't play great, I hope the Steelers go back to Fields who I think can win a lot of games in the NFL.

Will he ever be an elite QB? Probably not but I think Fields can still end up very, very good.

Hoping for a first round WR who can be a difference maker and another Benton type (or better) to add to the d-line. After that, maybe they'd consider adding an athletic QB to compete with Fields. We'll see but depth at OLB and on the o-line (with Dan Moore almost certainly gone) will probably come first and that's fine with me.

I remember when Dolphins fans were all excited to "Tank for Tua." Jacksonville thought they were getting the next Peyton Manning when they drafted Trevor Lawrence. Carolina IS going to trade Bryce Young after this season only 2 years after taking him #1 overall. The list goes on and on.

Nah, you go ahead and hope we lose out so the next Ben Roethlisberger arrives to save Mike Tomlin from himself. I'll keep rooting for wins no matter what.

[K_C_]

"SBI is for Wilson to throw 4 picks and the Steelers lose 27-3 with Tomlin getting roasted by the media."

Ah yes, another genius GM pushing the 4-13 tank to first round pick of next Mahomes and multiple titles. Because it works in real life just like that.

Nope, just want the albatross that is Mike Tomlin gone, as that is best SBI for the rest of the decade. But keep cheering for your 9 wins and wildcard embarrassments.

No matter what…Tomlin is here until he wants to leave. Yeah we all know he’s mediocre (at the very best) but considering ownership doesn’t care about lombardis….he ain’t going no where regardless to his record. It’s a fact even us die hard Tomlin haters have to come to grips with.

Bingo.

tbt thinks its possible Mike Tomlin is going to bottom out to the point where he'll get fired or leave on his own.

That. Isn't. Going. To. Happen. Ever.

Seriously unbelievable this is still even a conversation.

[jmacinwbp]

Nope, just want the albatross that is Mike Tomlin gone, as that is best SBI for the rest of the decade. But keep cheering for your 9 wins and wildcard embarrassments.

No matter what…Tomlin is here until he wants to leave.

...then we just have to make it so he wants to leave.

And you know what makes someone want to leave? Miserable failure and tarnishing your legacy.

Which is exactly what I'm cheering for.

TB I luv your passion at defending a non starter position, but:

- we can't do anything to make Tomlin want to leave. Nothing, nada, zilch. Tomlin will leave when he feels like leaving. He's such a stubborn MF'r , that I believe if this "we" you speak of, who so strongly want him to just go away, eventually turned into more than some numbnuts on a board like this, or in the X/ twitter verse; and actually started to reflect what typical Steelers fans thought, that fucker is going to make it his personal agenda to turn that fan discontent around...no matter how many years that would take, because that's the type of fuckhead guy he is.

-Tomlin doesn't give a shit about his legacy, he lives in the moment, and luvs what he has been very fortunate to do. Be the head coach for a storied NFL team, with uber passionate fans, and shape the future for young men who are just starting their professional careers. If you dig even a little into this guy's personal life, you see he's got much higher priorities than worrying about how his legacy in the sport will take a hit based on a few bad losing seasons.

If/when that happens, legacy is going to be the furthest thing from his mind, he'll be super focused on how to get his team back to playing winning football, and giving a product he feels is worthy of the legacy he inherited. When he decides to hang it up, I guarantee you the franchise will be in a state where he thinks it is worthy of it's history, not like the stains history. Buddy, you better prepare for him breaking just about every NFL coaching longevity record for one franchise, he'll be doing it into his seventies.


O.k., the haters are going to call me a Tomlin ball washer, that's fine, but I do see his serious flaws, however as much as they piss me off, they don't put me in some insane depression of hate/despair, that won't allow me to enjoy, those magical times that his coaching style might stumble into from time2time.

[Sir Lambert]

I hope this starting QB story is just a story. The opposing team shouldn't know who is playing for the Steelers this Sunday. Unfortunately, they know who is on the roster, but let's leave it at that.

[Dan Smith--BYU]

Tomlin could get filmed on Tik Tok selling Fentanyl to Cub Scouts out of an East Liberty dumpster and he wouldn't be fired.

[tbsteel]

I'm rooting or Russell Wilson to play great and win and if he doesn't play great, I hope the Steelers go back to Fields who I think can win a lot of games in the NFL.

Will he ever be an elite QB? Probably not but I think Fields can still end up very, very good.

You make these really dumb, empty points literally like every other post you make.

Fields barely looks comfortable taking a snap under center and can't even be trusted to call an audible in his FOURTH season. And you're all "WELL NOW, will he ever be elite? PRROOOBBALY not, but he could still end up VERY VERY GOODS I SAY I SAY!!" Just dumb yinzer shit. Newsflash dude, he sucks and he sucks hard. He ain't it and anyone who knows football know he's a shrinking violet at the QB position.

After bowing down and giving verbal deep tissue ass massages to lil ken the last two years, you don't get the right to talk about the QB position for the next five years. That's an official board rule.

Mods, please ban K_C_ from discussing the QB position until 10/19/2029. If he tries to discuss the QB position, just have the post edited to just be this:



Thanks!

[tbsteel]

No matter what…Tomlin is here until he wants to leave.

...then we just have to make it so he wants to leave.

And you know what makes someone want to leave? Miserable failure and tarnishing your legacy.

Which is exactly what I'm cheering for.

TB I luv your passion at defending a non starter position, but:

- we can't do anything to make Tomlin want to leave. Nothing, nada, zilch. Tomlin will leave when he feels like leaving. He's such a stubborn MF'r , that I believe if this "we" you speak of, who so strongly want him to just go away, eventually turned into more than some numbnuts on a board like this, or in the X/ twitter verse; and actually started to reflect what typical Steelers fans thought, that fucker is going to make it his personal agenda to turn that fan discontent around...no matter how many years that would take, because that's the type of fuckhead guy he is.

-Tomlin doesn't give a shit about his legacy, he lives in the moment, and luvs what he has been very fortunate to do. Be the head coach for a storied NFL team, with uber passionate fans, and shape the future for young men who are just starting their professional careers. If you dig even a little into this guy's personal life, you see he's got much higher priorities than worrying about how his legacy in the sport will take a hit based on a few bad losing seasons.

If/when that happens, legacy is going to be the furthest thing from his mind, he'll be super focused on how to get his team back to playing winning football, and giving a product he feels is worthy of the legacy he inherited. When he decides to hang it up, I guarantee you the franchise will be in a state where he thinks it is worthy of it's history, not like the stains history. Buddy, you better prepare for him breaking just about every NFL coaching longevity record for one franchise, he'll be doing it into his seventies.


O.k., the haters are going to call me a Tomlin ball washer, that's fine, but I do see his serious flaws, however as much as they piss me off, they don't put me in some insane depression of hate/despair, that won't allow me to enjoy, those magical times that his coaching style might stumble into from time2time.

1. You think if Tomlin went 4-13 the next two years he'd be getting his contract renewed? No chance. He stays because he wins enough to keep the dum-dums of Steeler Nation still engaged, still buying their Watt jerseys, and still waddling into the Acrisure.

2. Tomlin ABSOLUTELY cares about his legacy. NHALS means the world to him. That's why his teams play their asses off in December when other teams who know they're going nowhere are mailing it in.

3. At some point soon, it's coming to an end. I just want it sooner than most fans. And that's okay. I'm a trailblazer. Mike Tomlin ain't coaching here the rest of his life. He's not coaching here longer than the Chief. Belichick and Brady left N.E. Oasis got back together. Have faith.

[K_C_]

I'm rooting or Russell Wilson to play great and win and if he doesn't play great, I hope the Steelers go back to Fields who I think can win a lot of games in the NFL.

Will he ever be an elite QB? Probably not but I think Fields can still end up very, very good.

You make these really dumb, empty points literally like every other post you make.

Fields barely looks comfortable taking a snap under center and can't even be trusted to call an audible in his FOURTH season. And you're all "WELL NOW, will he ever be elite? PRROOOBBALY not, but he could still end up VERY VERY GOODS I SAY I SAY!!" Just dumb yinzer shit. Newsflash dude, he sucks and he sucks hard. He ain't it and anyone who knows football know he's a shrinking violet at the QB position.

After bowing down and giving verbal deep tissue ass massages to lil ken the last two years, you don't get the right to talk about the QB position for the next five years. That's an official board rule.

Mods, please ban K_C_ from discussing the QB position until 10/19/2029. If he tries to discuss the QB position, just have the post edited to just be this:



Thanks!

You are extra salty tonight about Tomlin. You’re really upset.



Mikey T. is gonna be around a long time, son. Whether you like it or not.

The Steelers aren’t going to lose enough to be in a position to find an immediate starter who will replace Fields after this season (and Fields will be back, whether you like it or not. To me, this is the best part of the whole equation. No matter how Russ plays, he’s old. Get used to seeing Fields around for years to come. Don’t like it? Tough shit. )

Oh what a beautiful start to the season it has been!!

[jmacinwbp]

...then we just have to make it so he wants to leave.

And you know what makes someone want to leave? Miserable failure and tarnishing your legacy.

Which is exactly what I'm cheering for.

TB I luv your passion at defending a non starter position, but:

- we can't do anything to make Tomlin want to leave. Nothing, nada, zilch. Tomlin will leave when he feels like leaving. He's such a stubborn MF'r , that I believe if this "we" you speak of, who so strongly want him to just go away, eventually turned into more than some numbnuts on a board like this, or in the X/ twitter verse; and actually started to reflect what typical Steelers fans thought, that fucker is going to make it his personal agenda to turn that fan discontent around...no matter how many years that would take, because that's the type of fuckhead guy he is.

-Tomlin doesn't give a shit about his legacy, he lives in the moment, and luvs what he has been very fortunate to do. Be the head coach for a storied NFL team, with uber passionate fans, and shape the future for young men who are just starting their professional careers. If you dig even a little into this guy's personal life, you see he's got much higher priorities than worrying about how his legacy in the sport will take a hit based on a few bad losing seasons.

If/when that happens, legacy is going to be the furthest thing from his mind, he'll be super focused on how to get his team back to playing winning football, and giving a product he feels is worthy of the legacy he inherited. When he decides to hang it up, I guarantee you the franchise will be in a state where he thinks it is worthy of it's history, not like the stains history. Buddy, you better prepare for him breaking just about every NFL coaching longevity record for one franchise, he'll be doing it into his seventies.


O.k., the haters are going to call me a Tomlin ball washer, that's fine, but I do see his serious flaws, however as much as they piss me off, they don't put me in some insane depression of hate/despair, that won't allow me to enjoy, those magical times that his coaching style might stumble into from time2time.

1. You think if Tomlin went 4-13 the next two years he'd be getting his contract renewed? No chance. He stays because he wins enough to keep the dum-dums of Steeler Nation still engaged, still buying their Watt jerseys, and still waddling into the Acrisure.

2. Tomlin ABSOLUTELY cares about his legacy. NHALS means the world to him. That's why his teams play their asses off in December when other teams who know they're going nowhere are mailing it in.

3. At some point soon, it's coming to an end. I just want it sooner than most fans. And that's okay. I'm a trailblazer. Mike Tomlin ain't coaching here the rest of his life. He's not coaching here longer than the Chief. Belichick and Brady left N.E. Oasis got back together. Have faith.

#1: Ever hear of something called the Rooney Rule? No fucking way Deuce shitcans the first coach to benefit from it for a couple of 4-12 seasons. Deuce would never do that to one of his father's signature contributions to the sport. Not for as long as he's alive, regardless of the fannys in the seats, or # of Pitt jerseys sold.

#2: Guess we agree, to disagree. I think his teams play their asses off for him because they respect the way he coaches them, and don't want to be the group that fails him. If you pivoted to blaming the players for the longevity of NHALS, regardless of the in season circumstances (see 2020 for the perfect example), then I might buy in to that discussion. Also, have you investigated what this guy has going on in his personal life outside of coaching? Lots more there than worrying about if he's the only coach to leave the sport with NHALS.

Riddle me this; if he's so NHALS now, NHALS forever, do nothing ever to jeopardize NHALS, explain to me why exactly he decided to bench the perfect quarterback who can virtually guarantee NHALS lives for another season, for one who might actually propel his team to beyond a passing game that might get way more than NHALS, but also has the risk of derailing, a season that is almost a sure bet for NHALS, but not much more, if Fields doesn't improve.

[Dan Smith--BYU]

Clearly some people here do not understand what Art Jr. prizes the most. It ain't Lombardis.

Tomlin wouldn't be fired for committing major felonies at Point St. at 3 am.

Come to think of it he wouldn't be arrested either.