How Much Luck Was Involved in Jets Win?

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How Much Luck Was Involved in Jets Win?

Post by LakecrestSteeler » Tue Oct 22, 2024 10:41 pm

Better to be lucky than good!
Luck is when preparation meets opportunity!
We/I make my own luck!

Insert your favorite luck saying.

So we had Lady Luck going our way on Sunday night. Maybe not in the ref department, but definitely in the ball bounced our way Sunday department.

Could we be in for a regression back to mean loss on Sunday?

George Pickens had luck on his side. Beanie had luck on his side. Muth’s catch etc.

Is the Russ Wilson ball washing too much on the board or did our eyes see what we thought we saw? Do we need a big grain of salt to balance out the luck?

Thoughts?

I think we win Sunday, but the questions will remain until we get a quality win after the bye. There was a positive step change for sure, but luck is obscuring how much of a step change.



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Post by Orangesteel » Tue Oct 22, 2024 10:52 pm

Horseshit. Only somewhat lucky play was the second Beanie INT, and honestly if you watch the replay Beanie got his hand up just at the last second to obscure Wilson’s view of the ball.

Now it bounced off his shoulder right to Beanie that was lucky, but what else was lucky? All was skill baby!
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Post by K_C_ » Tue Oct 22, 2024 10:52 pm

The ball bouncing off Garrett Wilson was lucky. The catches by Mooth and Pickens were great throws and great catches.
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Post by K_C_ » Tue Oct 22, 2024 11:33 pm

How about Dallas being lucky that Elandon Roberts blasts that RB at the goal line and the ball rolls right to Dak allowing them a 4th down play?
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Post by Mick » Tue Oct 22, 2024 11:49 pm

K_C_ wrote:
Tue Oct 22, 2024 10:52 pm
The ball bouncing off Garrett Wilson was lucky. The catches by Mooth and Pickens were great throws and great catches.
Muth was great throw and great catch. The pickens deep ball was bad throw great catch.

(Other muth catch and the pickens td were both great throws)

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Post by blu » Wed Oct 23, 2024 12:26 am

Beanie's one-handed catch was skill & athletic ability not luck. What was unlucky was the blocked extra point that had a penalty called on it for no valid reason & instead 2 points were scored against the Black & Gold.

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Post by PennyBacker » Wed Oct 23, 2024 12:40 am

Beanie Bishop made an incredible play on the first interception, yes, but it was Russell Wilson who was able to seize the momentum and get the #1 and #2 wide receivers involved to lead a touchdown drive and not let the other team off the hook.

The drive after the second interception was somewhat of a gimme touchdown after starting at the opponent's 1yd line. But, Wilson continued to exhibit the killer instinct after the Jets subsequently went on an extended play drive that finished with a missed FG - Russ kept the Steelers with the momentum and executed a 12 play 75 yard drive. It has been since Ben Roethlisberger that anything like that has took place in Pittsburgh. The opponent started gasping for air, and rather than getting a breather, got suffocated out.

Had the defense not gotten the initial turnover, who knows if the offense could have found its footing on its own, or how much the jeers from the crowd would have affected the players in the second half. As fate would have it though, the defense did come up big, and Russ executed his role effectively. It was a real solid first performance for Russell Wilson in Pittsburgh.
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Post by Stosh-67 » Wed Oct 23, 2024 12:53 am

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Post by tbsteel » Wed Oct 23, 2024 1:33 am

WTF did Andrew Luck have to do with Sunday night? And the Jets didn't win.
*roots for losses*

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Post by Stillerz Bar » Wed Oct 23, 2024 1:35 am

Stosh-67 wrote:
Wed Oct 23, 2024 12:53 am
https://steelersdepot.com/2024/10/mike- ... was-legal/

Minka Block was good
2nd time this season that points went on the board on that play or the next for our opponents because of a blown call - other one was TJ's strip sack against the Falcons where on the next play they got a TD. Fortunately, both times we won the game but that's just some poor officiating.

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Post by LakecrestSteeler » Wed Oct 23, 2024 1:48 am

K_C_ wrote:
Tue Oct 22, 2024 10:52 pm
The ball bouncing off Garrett Wilson was lucky. The catches by Mooth and Pickens were great throws and great catches.
Muth’s catch was fortuitous. Many of those would be drops due to the force of falling and not getting turned on the hip. All of GPs catches added together went our way. Definitely any of those plays by themselves you would not say luck, but in totality the WR corp had a Golden Horseshoe. Or since we have been starved for so long it could be a new beginning per Pennybacker!

There was a luck factor there in totality. The ball was bouncing our way.

Jesus when you think back to the A game we played against New England and James’ catch was ruled incomplete and then the lack of timeout causing the mad scramble INT.


There was lots of preparation and it definitely met opportunity Sunday!

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Post by LakecrestSteeler » Wed Oct 23, 2024 1:51 am

Orangesteel wrote:
Tue Oct 22, 2024 10:52 pm
Horseshit. Only somewhat lucky play was the second Beanie INT, and honestly if you watch the replay Beanie got his hand up just at the last second to obscure Wilson’s view of the ball.

Now it bounced off his shoulder right to Beanie that was lucky, but what else was lucky? All was skill baby!
That is exactly what I said to myself during the game. He tipped it! No he didn’t tip it! Ahhh that was pure luck! Then I was like his coverage forced the receiver to think about converting to DB and that is why it bounced! Total skill!

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Post by LakecrestSteeler » Wed Oct 23, 2024 1:54 am

K_C_ wrote:
Tue Oct 22, 2024 10:52 pm
The ball bouncing off Garrett Wilson was lucky. The catches by Mooth and Pickens were great throws and great catches.
The GP catch that was bobbled, then nearly intercepted, then bobbled again….was the ball bouncing our way…Lady Luck!

But to everyone’s point, it wasn’t completely lopsided so there probably will not be a reversion to the mean.

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Post by SteelPro » Wed Oct 23, 2024 2:02 am

LakecrestSteeler wrote:
Tue Oct 22, 2024 10:41 pm
Better to be lucky than good!
Luck is when preparation meets opportunity!
We/I make my own luck!

Insert your favorite luck saying.

So we had Lady Luck going our way on Sunday night. Maybe not in the ref department, but definitely in the ball bounced our way Sunday department.

Could we be in for a regression back to mean loss on Sunday?

George Pickens had luck on his side. Beanie had luck on his side. Muth’s catch etc.

Is the Russ Wilson ball washing too much on the board or did our eyes see what we thought we saw? Do we need a big grain of salt to balance out the luck?

Thoughts?

I think we win Sunday, but the questions will remain until we get a quality win after the bye. There was a positive step change for sure, but luck is obscuring how much of a step change.

The Jets were essentially gifted a 3 point swing on a bogus penalty called on Minkah. If anything the Steelers were unlucky on Sunday night.
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Post by LakecrestSteeler » Wed Oct 23, 2024 2:05 am

SteelPro wrote:
Wed Oct 23, 2024 2:02 am
LakecrestSteeler wrote:
Tue Oct 22, 2024 10:41 pm
Better to be lucky than good!
Luck is when preparation meets opportunity!
We/I make my own luck!

Insert your favorite luck saying.

So we had Lady Luck going our way on Sunday night. Maybe not in the ref department, but definitely in the ball bounced our way Sunday department.

Could we be in for a regression back to mean loss on Sunday?

George Pickens had luck on his side. Beanie had luck on his side. Muth’s catch etc.

Is the Russ Wilson ball washing too much on the board or did our eyes see what we thought we saw? Do we need a big grain of salt to balance out the luck?

Thoughts?

I think we win Sunday, but the questions will remain until we get a quality win after the bye. There was a positive step change for sure, but luck is obscuring how much of a step change.

The Jets were essentially gifted a 3 point swing on a bogus penalty called on Minkah. If anything the Steelers were unlucky on Sunday night.
I excluded the refs. Just talking about the ball bouncing our way. Seemed like too many bounces our way, warranting the big grain of salt.

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Post by Works At A Bank » Wed Oct 23, 2024 3:25 am

LakecrestSteeler wrote:
Wed Oct 23, 2024 2:05 am
SteelPro wrote:
Wed Oct 23, 2024 2:02 am
LakecrestSteeler wrote:
Tue Oct 22, 2024 10:41 pm
Better to be lucky than good!
Luck is when preparation meets opportunity!
We/I make my own luck!

Insert your favorite luck saying.

So we had Lady Luck going our way on Sunday night. Maybe not in the ref department, but definitely in the ball bounced our way Sunday department.

Could we be in for a regression back to mean loss on Sunday?

George Pickens had luck on his side. Beanie had luck on his side. Muth’s catch etc.

Is the Russ Wilson ball washing too much on the board or did our eyes see what we thought we saw? Do we need a big grain of salt to balance out the luck?

Thoughts?

I think we win Sunday, but the questions will remain until we get a quality win after the bye. There was a positive step change for sure, but luck is obscuring how much of a step change.

The Jets were essentially gifted a 3 point swing on a bogus penalty called on Minkah. If anything the Steelers were unlucky on Sunday night.
I excluded the refs. Just talking about the ball bouncing our way. Seemed like too many bounces our way, warranting the big grain of salt.
We call that football. Luck happens every single game for every single team. Steelers as a whole ended up playing better than most any of us expected. They didn’t win that game with a bunch of lucky breaks.

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Post by K_C_ » Wed Oct 23, 2024 10:03 am

LakecrestSteeler wrote:
Wed Oct 23, 2024 1:54 am
K_C_ wrote:
Tue Oct 22, 2024 10:52 pm
The ball bouncing off Garrett Wilson was lucky. The catches by Mooth and Pickens were great throws and great catches.
The GP catch that was bobbled, then nearly intercepted, then bobbled again….was the ball bouncing our way…Lady Luck!

But to everyone’s point, it wasn’t completely lopsided so there probably will not be a reversion to the mean.
Any ball thrown with any trajectory to George Pickens isn’t a 50/50 ball. It’s more of an 85/15 ball. Russ did a much better job putting air under his throws to GP and because George doesn’t care about actual separation, Pickens is going to come down with the ball far more often than he isn’t.

Russ unlocked that reality Sunday night and I hope Fields learns that’s all you really have to do for Pickens.
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Post by LakecrestSteeler » Wed Oct 23, 2024 11:31 am

K_C_ wrote:
Wed Oct 23, 2024 10:03 am
LakecrestSteeler wrote:
Wed Oct 23, 2024 1:54 am
K_C_ wrote:
Tue Oct 22, 2024 10:52 pm
The ball bouncing off Garrett Wilson was lucky. The catches by Mooth and Pickens were great throws and great catches.
The GP catch that was bobbled, then nearly intercepted, then bobbled again….was the ball bouncing our way…Lady Luck!

But to everyone’s point, it wasn’t completely lopsided so there probably will not be a reversion to the mean.
Any ball thrown with any trajectory to George Pickens isn’t a 50/50 ball. It’s more of an 85/15 ball. Russ did a much better job putting air under his throws to GP and because George doesn’t care about actual separation, Pickens is going to come down with the ball far more often than he isn’t.

Russ unlocked that reality Sunday night and I hope Fields learns that’s all you really have to do for Pickens.
As I said elsewhere, 2022’s Eagles at Steelers game, AJ Brown destroyed us and came down with every ball. Minkah’s mojo was stolen that game. I think AJ had 3 long bomb combat bobble catches that he came down with. I remember thinking that was just luck and they would come down to earth the next game. And he and Hurts proceeded to repeat those types of games the whole season. Let’s hope this was Russ Wilson unlocking GP’s real ability! I know he is good…but not expecting him to grab every catch every game.

GP can put “Makes Fucking All Catches” under his eyes.

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Post by jebrick » Wed Oct 23, 2024 11:35 am

K_C_ wrote:
Tue Oct 22, 2024 10:52 pm
The ball bouncing off Garrett Wilson was lucky. The catches by Mooth and Pickens were great throws and great catches.
The moon ball to Pickens that bounced off the DB first was pretty lucky
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