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Imo the draft is clear

Post by SteelerDayTrader » Mon Dec 16, 2024 2:18 am

Defense 1 and 2

We just don’t have big time closers on that side of the ball

I want Malachi Starks in the 1st and a game wrecker DL in the 2nd


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Post by Obviously » Mon Dec 16, 2024 2:25 am

SteelerDayTrader wrote:
Mon Dec 16, 2024 2:18 am
Defense 1 and 2

We just don’t have big time closers on that side of the ball

I want Malachi Starks in the 1st and a game wrecker DL in the 2nd
I would settle for a playmaker or two on offense. Agree the defense is overrated, but good gravy, the 70's Steel Curtain would have been gassed in the second half with that pathetic offense.
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Post by 955876 » Mon Dec 16, 2024 2:51 am

When you open the game with Myles Cole Pruitt and Connor Heyward on the field at the same time you’ve basically are telling the opposing DC he can take the day off.

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Post by Steeler_Fanatic » Mon Dec 16, 2024 2:52 am

Hard to disagree with Starks as a pick, but this team is in desperate need of quality wideouts. Pickens is clearly the only reciever that defenses respect, and without him our offense isn't even one dimensional, it's non-existent. We need a consensus star WR to give Pickens some breathing room. It is the most glaring weakness on this team.
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Post by tbsteel » Mon Dec 16, 2024 3:06 am

I think our only realistic chance under Tomlin is to have an elite defense, so I don't think this is a bad strategy if they don't see a QB early.
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Post by steelmann58 » Mon Dec 16, 2024 3:09 am

This team needs a game breaker on offense. As well as a dominate DT and CB

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Post by StillerDownSouth » Mon Dec 16, 2024 3:27 am

tbsteel wrote:
Mon Dec 16, 2024 3:06 am
I think our only realistic chance under Tomlin is to have an elite defense, so I don't think this is a bad strategy if they don't see a QB early.

This, plus defense still wins Ships....the formula that generally works is a great defense, a great QB in pivotal situations and great coaching, Steelers are lacking in all 3, thats why they aren't a serious contender for anything other than another 1st round exit in the playoffs.

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Post by Stosh-67 » Mon Dec 16, 2024 3:27 am

955876 wrote:
Mon Dec 16, 2024 2:51 am
When you open the game with Myles Cole Pruitt and Connor Heyward on the field at the same time you’ve basically are telling the opposing DC he can take the day off.
There it is
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Post by TTP » Mon Dec 16, 2024 4:05 am

955876 wrote:
Mon Dec 16, 2024 2:51 am
When you open the game with Myles Cole Pruitt and Connor Heyward on the field at the same time you’ve basically are telling the opposing DC he can take the day off.
At one point on the Steelers last drive, down 14, they had Pruitt, Heyward, Patterson, Washington and Muth on the field together. That has to be the slowest set of skill position players ever assembled. These dudes make Najee look fast.

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Post by 14Thumb » Mon Dec 16, 2024 4:07 am

Tell me the last time the Steelers had receivers open as much as the eagles today? You can say it's all about personnel, but I've seen teams do it with comparable receiving corps. Today was a coaching embarrassment on both sides of the ball.

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Post by SteelerDayTrader » Mon Dec 16, 2024 8:38 am

Spending premium draft capital on offense is really questionable in Pittsburgh

Particularly when the defense really has no special players. Just a bunch of guys who have some talent but can’t ever consistently drop the hammer and finish teams

The defense needs some game wreckers

And that means wreck the opponents game not ours the way these guys have tended to do for damn near a decade now

I think Starks has the tools to be a special player on defense. A game changer

At worst he could probably play all 5 DB spots better than what we have now

The defensive line is pathetic. I will be so happy when old fat fuck Heyward is gone

To be fair he’s far from the only problem on defense

There will be some very solid DL in the 2nd that won’t be there in the 3rd

More and more I like Singleton in the 3rd

Has some speed. Can grind too. And will be a decent pass game option as well

After that the draft could continue to help this team or they could fuck that up too

They really need hit this entire 7 round draft and UDFA process hard this year

Particularly since they are are gonna sign Russ to a multi year deal
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Post by cop1211 » Mon Dec 16, 2024 10:09 am

1.WR Luther Burden Mizzu
2.CB Denzel Burke Ohio State
3.S Mukuba Texas can play slot, big nickel,dime, future starter.
4a.RB Ollie Gordon OK State
4b.OT
5.OG
6.DT
7.RB

Free agency sign a good DE, solid WR.

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Post by K_C_ » Mon Dec 16, 2024 12:03 pm

The Steelers will take a WR at 1 (most mocks have OSU’s Emeka Egbuka going to the Steelers….and they’re probably right) and in round 2 the Steelers will take a DLineman.

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Post by Steeldrama » Mon Dec 16, 2024 12:07 pm

cop1211 wrote:
Mon Dec 16, 2024 10:09 am
1.WR Luther Burden Mizzu
2.CB Denzel Burke Ohio State
3.S Mukuba Texas can play slot, big nickel,dime, future starter.
4a.RB Ollie Gordon OK State
4b.OT
5.OG
6.DT
7.RB

Free agency sign a good DE, solid WR.
Normally, I don't besmirch anyone's draft ideas, but that Burke fella shares Joey Jr's disdain for tackling.

Two bad tackling corners this team does not need.
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Post by jebrick » Mon Dec 16, 2024 12:47 pm

SteelerDayTrader wrote:
Mon Dec 16, 2024 2:18 am
Defense 1 and 2

We just don’t have big time closers on that side of the ball

I want Malachi Starks in the 1st and a game wrecker DL in the 2nd
All depends on FA. Can they sign a real WR. Not some cheap after thought. Spend the money and sign a decent FA then your can get a DT in the 1st. Otherwise, it must be WR.
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Post by LakecrestSteeler » Mon Dec 16, 2024 12:51 pm

SteelerDayTrader wrote:
Mon Dec 16, 2024 2:18 am
Defense 1 and 2

We just don’t have big time closers on that side of the ball

I want Malachi Starks in the 1st and a game wrecker DL in the 2nd
Is the assumption Travis Hunter will be gone? He would kill 2 birds.

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Post by Deebo » Mon Dec 16, 2024 12:53 pm

SteelerDayTrader wrote:
Mon Dec 16, 2024 2:18 am
Defense 1 and 2

We just don’t have big time closers on that side of the ball

I want Malachi Starks in the 1st and a game wrecker DL in the 2nd
A defensive playmaker would be ideal.
I'll settle for another Benton-type.

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Post by cop1211 » Mon Dec 16, 2024 1:13 pm

Steeldrama wrote:
Mon Dec 16, 2024 12:07 pm
cop1211 wrote:
Mon Dec 16, 2024 10:09 am
1.WR Luther Burden Mizzu
2.CB Denzel Burke Ohio State
3.S Mukuba Texas can play slot, big nickel,dime, future starter.
4a.RB Ollie Gordon OK State
4b.OT
5.OG
6.DT
7.RB

Free agency sign a good DE, solid WR.
Normally, I don't besmirch anyone's draft ideas, but that Burke fella shares Joey Jr's disdain for tackling.

Two bad tackling corners this team does not need.
Let’s go CB Thomas FSU 😀

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Post by K_C_ » Mon Dec 16, 2024 2:02 pm

jebrick wrote:
Mon Dec 16, 2024 12:47 pm
SteelerDayTrader wrote:
Mon Dec 16, 2024 2:18 am
Defense 1 and 2

We just don’t have big time closers on that side of the ball

I want Malachi Starks in the 1st and a game wrecker DL in the 2nd
All depends on FA. Can they sign a real WR. Not some cheap after thought. Spend the money and sign a decent FA then your can get a DT in the 1st. Otherwise, it must be WR.
They’ll draft a receiver high because coming to an agreement on a long term deal with Pickens isn’t guaranteed and he’s such an asshole, the Steelers might not even want to come to a long term deal with Pickens.

The Steelers need a legit #1 level WR and they’ll take that guy real early. Free agents at that position will be too expensive.
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Post by Stlcrtn1974 » Mon Dec 16, 2024 2:13 pm

Actually the Steelers are screwed all around. They need a qb, rb, wr, d-line, cb and safety. They are solid at
o-line, and lb, that's it.

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Post by K_C_ » Mon Dec 16, 2024 2:18 pm

Stlcrtn1974 wrote:
Mon Dec 16, 2024 2:13 pm
Actually the Steelers are screwed all around. They need a qb, rb, wr, d-line, cb and safety. They are solid at
o-line, and lb, that's it.
Russ will be the QB for the next 2-3 years after this season.

He’s doing fine but right now he has no weapons on the outside. That will be fixed with either a #1 or #2 pick.

No chance they wait longer than that.
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Post by Ice » Mon Dec 16, 2024 2:19 pm

Steeldrama wrote:
Mon Dec 16, 2024 12:07 pm
cop1211 wrote:
Mon Dec 16, 2024 10:09 am
1.WR Luther Burden Mizzu
2.CB Denzel Burke Ohio State
3.S Mukuba Texas can play slot, big nickel,dime, future starter.
4a.RB Ollie Gordon OK State
4b.OT
5.OG
6.DT
7.RB

Free agency sign a good DE, solid WR.
Normally, I don't besmirch anyone's draft ideas, but that Burke fella shares Joey Jr's disdain for tackling.

Two bad tackling corners this team does not need.
Even with Buckeye homer glasses on, Burke has been a bit of a disappointment coming back this year. He's not the Buckeye I'm looking for come April.
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Post by bradshaw2ben » Mon Dec 16, 2024 2:40 pm

K_C_ wrote:
Mon Dec 16, 2024 12:03 pm
The Steelers will take a WR at 1 (most mocks have OSU’s Emeka Egbuka going to the Steelers….and they’re probably right) and in round 2 the Steelers will take a DLineman.

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Post by bradshaw2ben » Mon Dec 16, 2024 2:42 pm

Stlcrtn1974 wrote:
Mon Dec 16, 2024 2:13 pm
Actually the Steelers are screwed all around. They need a qb, rb, wr, d-line, cb and safety. They are solid at
o-line, and lb, that's it.
They’ll never do it, but adding an elite TE receiver would be extremely useful to a team hellbent on running it.
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Post by stairway 2 seven » Mon Dec 16, 2024 2:45 pm

I'll be shocked if Pickens re signs. He'll want to go to a team with a more dynamic offense.

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Post by bradshaw2ben » Mon Dec 16, 2024 2:46 pm

K_C_ wrote:
Mon Dec 16, 2024 2:18 pm
Stlcrtn1974 wrote:
Mon Dec 16, 2024 2:13 pm
Actually the Steelers are screwed all around. They need a qb, rb, wr, d-line, cb and safety. They are solid at
o-line, and lb, that's it.
Russ will be the QB for the next 2-3 years after this season.

He’s doing fine but right now he has no weapons on the outside. That will be fixed with either a #1 or #2 pick.

No chance they wait longer than that.
When all your routes in 3rd and intermediate/long are bunched toward the sideline or too slow to get to the middle of the field, it doesn’t matter who your qB is vs a defense who knows that’s what you’re going to do. Eagles brilliant defended it with a single high and robber look. The SS played intermediate MOF and just went to whichever side the slot was on. Unless you can win that 1 on 1 on the single side, your play is dead. Even if they had Pickens out there they could just bracket him with the high safety and be more or less in the same position.
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Post by Ice » Mon Dec 16, 2024 3:20 pm

bradshaw2ben wrote:
Mon Dec 16, 2024 2:40 pm
K_C_ wrote:
Mon Dec 16, 2024 12:03 pm
The Steelers will take a WR at 1 (most mocks have OSU’s Emeka Egbuka going to the Steelers….and they’re probably right) and in round 2 the Steelers will take a DLineman.

You’re welcome.
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Post by gojira5150 » Mon Dec 16, 2024 3:50 pm

bradshaw2ben wrote:
Mon Dec 16, 2024 2:40 pm
K_C_ wrote:
Mon Dec 16, 2024 12:03 pm
The Steelers will take a WR at 1 (most mocks have OSU’s Emeka Egbuka going to the Steelers….and they’re probably right) and in round 2 the Steelers will take a DLineman.

You’re welcome.
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Well, you need to smoke that birdie. If this happens, my TV goes thru the window. Get a UDFA RB or draft one in the 5th, 6th or 7th rounds
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Post by gojira5150 » Mon Dec 16, 2024 3:51 pm

bradshaw2ben wrote:
Mon Dec 16, 2024 2:42 pm
Stlcrtn1974 wrote:
Mon Dec 16, 2024 2:13 pm
Actually the Steelers are screwed all around. They need a qb, rb, wr, d-line, cb and safety. They are solid at
o-line, and lb, that's it.
They’ll never do it, but adding an elite TE receiver would be extremely useful to a team hellbent on running it.
They should have moved up to take Bowers. He's crazy legit. The O-Lineman we took didn't even see the field this year.
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Post by K_C_ » Mon Dec 16, 2024 4:14 pm

bradshaw2ben wrote:
Mon Dec 16, 2024 2:40 pm
K_C_ wrote:
Mon Dec 16, 2024 12:03 pm
The Steelers will take a WR at 1 (most mocks have OSU’s Emeka Egbuka going to the Steelers….and they’re probably right) and in round 2 the Steelers will take a DLineman.

You’re welcome.
A little birdie told me a first round RB is in play.
Dude I will bet you a case of whatever beer you want or a very expensive bourbon that they don't take a RB in the first round. Jeanty would be tempting if he were there (he won't be. People see Saquon II with him) but there is absolutely no fucking chance they take a RB in the first round.

George Pickens is a phenomenal player but he's 1) our only dangerous weapon at WR and 2) he's clearly batshit crazy in very likely an AB sort of way.

They will take a WR in the first or second round for a few reasons (I believe that WR will be the first round pick and very possibly, a trade up.) First, they fucked up last April waiting too long to take Roman Wilson in the 3rd. I still have belief Wilson will make a very positive contribution but like Calvin Austin, his rookie year obviously didn't happen. They will not repeat that fuck up again. Secondly, while Pickens is obviously a superstar level player, I'm not sure the Steelers will want to commit 30 + million per year to a guy that is CLEARLY fucked in the head. Even if they do decide to pay Pickens, which is possible, everybody and their mother has seen what our WR corps looks like without Pickens and even with GP on the field, Russ is limited offensively in a way a guy like Joe Burrow isn't. Chase is covered? Fuck it, he'll throw it to Higgins who is nearly as good.

The Steelers need to find their Tee Higgins.....and who knows, if he becomes a free agent I wouldn't be in the least bit surprised if they try and lock Higgins up. The guy to me that "got away" is Jerry Jeudy. You put Jeudy (who is the type of elite separator and route runner we all wish Diontae Johnson would have been) alongside George Pickens and the Steelers right now might be Super Bowl favorites.

They HAVE TO find Pickens a running mate and I also wouldn't be shocked if they trade Pickens at some point before his contract is up, worried he'll go off the rails.
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