Snap Counts vs KC

[Stosh-67]

Snapaddicts,
"And you know who you are".........

I do not know how this happened.....

75 offensive snaps for the Steelers.........to 62 for KC.
Maybe it was the 13 play drive to end the game?
Including 5 carries by Najee, to make sure we get him over 1,000 yards for the season.

Was it the 39 second half snaps that resulted in a total of 3 points, for the entire second half of football.

More offensive snaps in 10 of 16 games. ( Giants, Dallas, Clev ( tie ) Philly & Balt. )
Won snap count battle for first time in four weeks.
Someone is hanging their hat on that in their office this morning.

Won the time of possession battle for the 11th time in 16 games. ( Giants & Dallas, Philly, Ravens, tied Clev. )
31:22 for the Steelers.

First time winning T.O.P. battle in 4 weeks......

The Steelers ran for 202 yards on the ground and held KC to 69.
Someone is hanging their hat on that in their office this morning.
Don't blink, attrition football.

They ran for 66 yards in the last 2 drive, down 19 points......
As the Steelers uncovered a new formula for striking quick to get back into a game..........running 8 times.
How on earth could any team score 19 points in 6 1/2 minutes in todays day and age.

Once again, three straight weeks, Tomlin punts in the 4th quarter, down double digits.
Yesterday, down 19, 6 minutes left, on our own 22, 4th and 2.
Not down 7, not down 10.....
Not 4th and 8, not 4th and 12, not 4th and 15.

I know his exact thought process.
If we don't convert here, KC get ball back inside our 25 and likely gets points, gets to 30+
Even with a hold and a FG.
32-10.....looks a lot worse than 29-10

How about this decision.
10:05 left in 4th quarter.
Down 29-10
4 and 20 at KC 42
59 yard FG attempt or go for it on 4th and 20?
Russell Wilson pass incomplete deep left intended for George Pickens.

Mike tried a FG from 58 in the snow and wind vs Cleveland on that Thursday nite mess.

A FG makes it a 2 score game? 29-13.

Offense

75 snaps.
Russ 60

Russ 6-4 record. 197-305, 64.6%, 2334 yds, 15 TD, 5 INT, 97.4. QBR, 39 for 139 on the ground, 1 TD
Fields 4-2 record. 106 -161, 65.8%, 1106 yds, 5TD, 1 INT, 93.3 QBR, 61 for 281 on the ground, 5 TD

Russ numbers project to less than 4,000 yards passing in a full 17 game season, with 25 TDs

OL
3 of 5 OL all 75 snaps.
Moore -68
Seumalo -63 ( he get dinging? - more likely out of the game for that last 12 play come back drive )
Spencer Anderson - 13
Sharping - 7

Assuming Anderson played both LT and LG?
He was in as tackle eligible as well.

WRs
Pickens - 68 ( 3 for 50, 7 targets )
Austin - 56 ( 4 for 31, 5 targets ) has he been the most consistent and reliable WR in 2024? Played all 16 games. 36-548, 4 TDs

Van - 32 ( 0 on 1 targets ) Your designated #2 at the start of the season is 21 for 258 in 16 games.
I hope Roman Wilson learned his lesson....
Let this be another example of Tomlin loving his guys...........in spite of winning match-ups, 1st downs, moving chains, spreading the defense, adding speed.

M. Williams -32 ( 0 on 2 targets ) 12 targets in 8 games. 8 catches for 107 yards and that TD...ohh soo long ago.
Scotty Miller - 10 ( no targets in 10 snaps )
Roman Wilson - DNP -

Skowroneck - DNP, missed his blocking skills, while running for a season high 202 yards.

Roman Wilson and his 4.39 - 40...... sits in the dog house.
Better luck next year.
Not enough time left in the season to work your way in and get some of the Van Jefferson and Scotty "No" snaps.

RBs
Warren - 40 - 11 for 71, 6.5 avg. 5 for 41 on 6 targets.
Najee - 34 - 13 for 74, 5.7 avg. 2 catches on 4 targets for 7

Najee ran for 53 of his 74 yards in the final two, come from behind, attack mode drives....
In which Tomlin threw dahn the white flag and KC defenders were playing to close the game, to not get hurt, while utilizing a technique of lowering #22 to the ground until the echo of the whistle being blown.

With 29 yards rushing on Sunday, Najee will finish the season with 1036 yards
after rushing for 1035 in 2023,
and after rushing for 1034 in 2022.

JW - 114 for 490, 4.3 avg., 1 TD, 38 catches - 310, 8.2 avg.
NH - 251-1,007, 4.0 avg. 5 TD, 32 for 263, 8.2

After 16 weeks, I do not think defenses and opposing coaches notice the slowed down pace, heavy packages and predictable play calling when Najee is in the game.

I think the rest of the NFL world recognizes the difference in the play, temp, spark....with Warren on the field.

Patterson - 1 snaps. 1 carry for 2 yards.

And in possibly Tomlins most embarrassing call of the season....
The Steelers, after going down 13-0 after one quarter of embarrassing football,
After righting the ship and scoring an NFL TD to make it 13-7.
After forcing KC to punt with 6 minutes to the half,
After building some momentum,
After moving the ball close to midfield with less than 3 minutes to the half,
After getting the festive home town crowd back on its feet,
After living rooms around the country tune in on Netfliz.......as Steelers fans around the world get a chance to watch their Steelers, from New York and New Jersey, to New Zealand, to New Guinea....................

We hand the ball to 57 year old Patterson on 3rd and 3.................

YGTBFKM.
That's You Got To Be Fucking Kidding Me....
for the Acronymously Oblivious........... and Swiss.

Do you know who knew.... who was getting the ball on that play, long before they broke huddle?
The KC staff and the KC defensive players on the field............and, and,
Those who read the weekly Snap Count thread.

Because, when old man Patterson is on the field......there is a 45-50% chance the play is designed for him to get the ball.
102 offensive snaps.
45 carries, targets and catches. - 44.1 % rate
touches the ball or targeted 44% of time he is on the field.
Making defenders smarter.
Making my staff dumber with each game.

Those Patterson snap counts do not include his 11 kick returns for 240 yards, and 21.8 avg.
including a long of 33 yards, as we incorporate the slowest kick returner since 1944, the War years.
Michael knew he needed a War Time Consigliere.
We do not need a War Time Kick returner.

End rant on this horrible offense scheme, play design, play calling, player personnel usage........

Oh wait....the TEs'

TEs
Mooth -45, 7 for 60 yards, 8 targets, 1 bad fumble inside Pitt 40, led to KC TD.
57 catches for 568 yards, 10.0, on 67 targets, 85.% highest % of his career ( 75.9, 64.3, 68.1 )
6 TDs on the year

Darnell - 26, ( 1 catch for 8 yards, on 1 target )
His catch yesterday was the type of pass play that I have been yelling for all year,
chip, shed, run straight for 5-6 yards, turn catch, turn pick up a few more.
at 6'-7" and 290-300....defenders would need to run thru his back to break up the play.
That should be available 2 or 3 times a game.
Nice first down plays from their beloved heavy set.

3 targets in 4 weeks ) Anyone else feel cheated when we do not get to see him make a catch and rumble down field?
This guy is a weapon that underused, is not used, may be the only guy Russ can spot over the middle.
Is he a 50+ catch TE playing in an NFL offense?

Co. Heyward - 21. YGTBFKM........( 1 for 8 on 1 target )
21 snaps. Twenty One. He was on the field for 28% of the offensive snaps.
How many CCA players, Coaches Choice Award, can the Steelers really put on the field at one time.
We do know we can only put 5 skill players plus the QB on the field at one time.

Pruit - 10, ( no targets )

Sub-optimizing Offense 101.

73 snaps from Van, and Scotty, Heyward and Pruit

DEFENSE
Only Minka and Queen all 62 snaps.

ILBs
Queen -62 ( 5 solo, 2 assists = 7 tackles ) 124 tackles leads the team
Elandon Roberts - 33 ( 2 + 1 = 3 )
Payton Wilson 29 ( 3 + 1 = 4 )
Robinson - 0

OLB's
Highsmith - 52 ( 3 + 1 = 4, 1PD )
T.J. Watt - 49 - ( 1 + 3 = 4 )
Herbig - 23 ( 1 QBH )
Preston -DNP - coaches choice. May his length been able to disrupt some passing lanes?
Moon - 5 ( 1 solo )

DBs

Porter - DNP
Donte Jackson - 58 ( 4 solo )
Trice - 47 ( 3 solo, 1 PD )
Pierre - 18 ( 1 solo, 1 PD )

Minka - 62 ( 6 + 1 = 7 )
4 PD all year, after only 3 last year.
First 4 years and 61 games, 38 PD, 17 INT
Last 2 years, 26 games, 7 PD and ONE int. 1 FF, 0 FR
2022- 6 picks, 1 pick 6, 11 PD

DeShon Elliott - 58 ( 2 + 2 = 4 )
Sutton - 43 ( 3 solo, 1 PD )
Kazee - 16 ( nada )

Beanie Bishop- 0 - ST's only
Killebrew -0 - ST's only

Dline
Cameron Heyward - 50 ( 2 + 2 = 4, 1 QBH, 1 TFL )
Keeanu Benton -38 ( 1 + 1 = 2 ) they coach the nasty out of this guy?
Larry OG - 20 ( 2 + 1 = 3 )
Adams - 13 ( 1assit ) this guy used to penetrate in his first year.
Loudermilk - 6 ( 1 assist )

Lowry - DNP -

FIRST or SECOND round DL.
Remember the lack of penetration from the DL
FIRST or SECOND round DL.
Remember how Benton no longer wrecks centers and no longer collapses the pocket.........has been coached to concede.
FIRST or SECOND round DL.
Cam will be closer to 37 than 36, this time next Christmas.

The PS registered No sacks and only 2 QB hits.....after NO QB hits vs Ravens.
The 3 game Gauntlet ..........A total of 7 QB hits. Brutal.

Poor.
Piss poor.
Not enough hits on the QB.
CB Blitz. Safety Blitz...Nickel blitz....are they all off the table?
ILB blitz
OLB movement, switching, double loading.
Choose vanilla....
Results are this.

ST's

The Wizard of Boz
1 for 1 on FGs. 1 for 1 XPs

I do not consider a block a miss.....unless kick is low or slow.

40 for 43 FGs
33 for 33 XPs
Team MVP

Has missed only 3 out of 76 total kicks this year......62 and 58 yarders and a block
No longer on record breaking pace to tie most FGs in a season. ( 44 )
4 FG game ties the record.

12 of 14 from 50+

Hot shot new comer, Dallas kicker Aubrey, is 14 of 16 on 50+ ( 36 for 42 on season )

Waitman.
4 punt - 44.5 avg. long of 58
Clutch hang time for the fair catch on the Tomlins 4th and 2 punt with 6 minutes left in game, down 19.
Been aces this year.
One bad punt?

Don't get snappy with me.......unless your talking Steelers football.

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[swissvale72]

Thanks for posting, Stosh. Always look forward to snap counts. Few things:

-ray fittipaldo from the pg put it best..."Arthur smiths penchant for using pattterson is becoming weird"

-that fuckin punt down 19 wqs pathetic...giving up

-I questioned Preston smith being inactive

[Stosh-67]

Thanks for posting, Stosh. Always look forward to snap counts. Few things:

-ray fittipaldo from the pg put it best..."Arthur smiths penchant for using pattterson is becoming weird"

-that fuckin punt down 19 wqs pathetic...giving up

-I questioned Preston smith being inactive

Thanks

Deserves a repeat and re-read....brutal.

And in possibly Tomlins most embarrassing call of the season....
The Steelers, after going down 13-0 after one quarter of embarrassing football,
After righting the ship and scoring an NFL TD to make it 13-7.
After forcing KC to punt with 6 minutes to the half,
After building some momentum,
After moving the ball close to midfield with less than 3 minutes to the half,
After getting the festive home town crowd back on its feet,
After living rooms around the country tune in on Netfliz.......as Steelers fans around the world get a chance to watch their Steelers, from New York and New Jersey, to New Zealand, to New Guinea....................

We hand the ball to 57 year old Patterson on 3rd and 3.................

To add insult to stupidity......
He gets a reprieve on the punt with KC 12 men on field......
And then does what......
Goes back to hand off on first down with a stacked box...
Warren for -1, several defenders run blitzing thru....., knowing the Steelers predictable play calling,
Knowing Tomlins love of bleeding clock over scoring points.

And once again, I knew exactly the thoughts in Tomlins head.
Its......lets bleed some clock.
Lets get to the 2 minute warning.
Lets not leave too much clock for KC ( after we Punt )

His worry of leaving too much time on the clock for an opponent always comes at the expense of sub-optimizing offense.
Leaving less time for opponent is more of a concern over actually scoring points in this thick, obtuse skull of his.

[Louis Lipps Service]

The Patterson thing is definitely weird. He literally is providing no value to this team. Tomlin thinks he does because “he can play multiple positions”, but he sucks at all of them. So that’s not useful.

As for playcalling, I’m a huge proponent of being intelligently aggressive. Whether it’s choosing a play to call on 3rd and 3 or deciding if you want to go for it on 4th and 5.

The problem is this team is so unbelievably bad at executing any single play, that I have no hope of converting those downs no matter what we call.

Yes, I 100% agree that we shouldn’t be plunging the ball up the middle every damn time it’s 3rd or 4th and less than 5.

But if you asked me what I thought our odds of converting those downs was if we did try something else, I’d say “not much”.

Other teams scheme guys open for short yardage plays so damn easy. Yet we make every play look like success is purely by happy accident.

A big part of it is that our WRs suck out loud in these situations. And I’m not just talking about everyone other than Pickens. If he we wants to be a true top tier WR, then he needs to consistently make the 5 yard catches look as easy as the 40 yard catches.

None of that is the excuse play calling. I’ll raise my hand without shame and say that even though I didn’t like the hire, I gave me optimism early in the season to the point where I defended him.

But as is so often the case with the Tomlin regime, he never evolved. He never got better. He never added any twists to keep other teams off his scent. We do the same damn game plan every game then wonder why we get out asses kicked late in the season when everyone under the sun knows our entire game plan by heart.

[Stosh-67]

The Patterson thing is definitely weird. He literally is providing no value to this team. Tomlin thinks he does because “he can play multiple positions”, but he sucks at all of them. So that’s not useful.

As for playcalling, I’m a huge proponent of being intelligently aggressive. Whether it’s choosing a play to call on 3rd and 3 or deciding if you want to go for it on 4th and 5.

The problem is this team is so unbelievably bad at executing any single play, that I have no hope of converting those downs no matter what we call.

Yes, I 100% agree that we shouldn’t be plunging the ball up the middle every damn time it’s 3rd or 4th and less than 5.

But if you asked me what I thought our odds of converting those downs was if we did try something else, I’d say “not much”.

Other teams scheme guys open for short yardage plays so damn easy. Yet we make every play look like success is purely by happy accident.

A big part of it is that our WRs suck out loud in these situations. And I’m not just talking about everyone other than Pickens. If he we wants to be a true top tier WR, then he needs to consistently make the 5 yard catches look as easy as the 40 yard catches.

None of that is the excuse play calling. I’ll raise my hand without shame and say that even though I didn’t like the hire, I gave me optimism early in the season to the point where I defended him.

But as is so often the case with the Tomlin regime, he never evolved. He never got better. He never added any twists to keep other teams off his scent. We do the same damn game plan every game then wonder why we get out asses kicked late in the season when everyone under the sun knows our entire game plan by heart.

Lipps.
Spot on.
18th year in the NFL.
And he is the same coach he was last year, 4 years ago, 8, 10, 16 years ago.

Still thinks you can win games with attrition football.................and you can probably win 5, 6-7+ games a year that way.
Still thinks, playing it safe, keeping it close and winning it in the end with a FG....will win football games..... and you may win 6, 7-8+ games a year that way.
Still thinks if his team makes fewer mistakes, fewer turnovers, and waits for the opponent to make mistakes......is the formula for non-losing seasons. And it just very well may be.
Still thinks its all about execution and, its lack of execution on why plays fail.
Still thinks its mono on mono, out hit, out tuff, out bully the opponent.
Still does not think you need to win plays by scheme, deception, trickery and out smarting the opponent.

Still does not know the exact second, on when to call a time out.
Its instinct with me, with you....with most astute football followers, S.F. members, etc.
We yell time out the second a play is over.

Still does not value the clock.
Still does not realize you can not put time wasted ....back on the clock.

Its amazing how many people think this guys is a great head coach.

Thanksgiving, Christmas and the holidays brings all types of football fans around and their team and their perspective on football.

My brother, a 60 year old Jet fan asked me yesterday.
"How come everyone but you, loves Tomlin."

His son said he would trade the Jets 1st round pick for Tomlin, maybe 2 first round picks.

The guy is outcoached 12,13, 14+ games a year.
He loses more games on Tuesdays thru Saturdays with his game planning, scheme, player usage, etc....than any team in football.

18-19 straight games without an opening drive TD all starts with Tuesdays thru Saturdays,
when you identify an opponents team, players, weakness, strength, tendencies,....ways to attack, players to avoid, game plan for, etc.
And the coach who better prepared their team, will be the team that has the best chance of executing each and every play.

[Stosh-67]

No one needs to pull up his recent playoff results as the pudding that's in the proof.

3-9 in his last 12 playoff games,
No other coach in NFL history can compare to this playoff futility.
Anyone think of another HC with worse results in a 10-12 game stint?

The first of the 9 losses in 12 games........started with losing the Super Bowl to the Packers in Feb of 2011, 13 years ago.
In which he made his famous "easing into the game" quote.

The 3 wins against;
The Bengals and A.J. McCarron, who has 4 career NFL starts. A game In which the Steelers trailing 16-15, with 1:36 left, saw Bengals RB fumble on first down, recovered by Pitt at the Steelers 9. Then with no time outs and 22 second left from the Cincy 47, had a Ben to AB incompletion turn into 30 yards of personal fouls, for a Boz chip shot, and 18-16 win.
Little tidbit, Steelers led 15-0 after a Ben to Martavis TD, midway thru the 3rd. XP makes it 16-0.
NumNutz went for 2. The Steelers wound up trailing by that 1 little point a little over a quarter later.

The Dolphins and Matt Moore, who has 32 career starts. The last convincing playoff win. Jan 8th, 2017. 30-12, as the Steelers led 30-6 with 2 minutes left in the third

KC and Alex Smith. Another 18 pointer from Tomlin and the Steelers. Boz has been saving this guy for a decade.
THIS IS THE LAST PLAYOFF WIN!!!!!
Jan. 15th, 2017 ( 2016 season )

And now the bad, the real bad.

5 straight playoff loses.
No other coach in NFL history survives what I am about to type.
Gave up 36, 45, 48, 42 and 31 in those 5 games, avg. of 40 points per

36 points to the Pats. Down 10-0 after the first quarter.
Down 36-9 early 4th quarter.
Biggest deficit - 27 points

45 points to the Jags. Down 14-0 after the first quarter.
down 21-0 early 2nd and 28-7 with :25 seconds to the half.
Biggest deficit - 21 points

48 to the Browns. Down 28-0 after the first quarter.
Down 35-7 before a Boz Fg with time expiring at the half.
Biggest deficit - 28 points

42 points to KC.
Only game of the last 5 playoff games in which we had a lead.
TJ Watt, 26 yd fumble return for a TD early 2nd quarter.
Then KC stomped....21-7 at the half, 35-7 by late 3rd.
Biggest deficit - 28 points

31 points to Buffalo. Down 14-0 after the first quarter.
21-0 with less than 2 minutes to the half.
Biggest deficit - 21 points

How teams start games is indictive of how teams studied, game planned, schemed, motivated, prepared, play called, etc....
It all starts long before kick-off. It starts with the Head Coach.
Combined 66-0 after one quarter of play.
No other coach survives this. "Tomlin is one of the best NFL coaches."

I have said it before, many times....may as well say it again.
The Steelers lose more games before kick off, than any team in football.

Combined to be down 122-47 at the half.
No other coach survives this. "Tomlin will get another job in 2 seconds."

Deficits of 27, 21, 28, 28 and 21.
No other coach survives this. "Tomlin is loved by the masses, media and non-Steeler fans."

In the last 5 playoff games, the Steelers had a lead for a total of 6 minutes of football, out of 300 minutes of football.
No other coach survives this. "3 coaches in 55 years"

Tomlin has won a playoff game in only 4 of his 18 seasons.
7, one and done playoff seasons.

What will the 2025 playoff game bring to this story.

Please let it end.

[Stlcrtn1974]

No one needs to pull up his recent playoff results as the pudding that's in the proof.

3-9 in his last 12 playoff games,
No other coach in NFL history can compare to this playoff futility.
Anyone think of another HC with worse results in a 10-12 game stint?

The first of the 9 losses in 12 games........started with losing the Super Bowl to the Packers in Feb of 2011, 13 years ago.
In which he made his famous "easing into the game" quote.

The 3 wins against;
The Bengals and A.J. McCarron, who has 4 career NFL starts. A game In which the Steelers trailing 16-15, with 1:36 left, saw Bengals RB fumble on first down, recovered by Pitt at the Steelers 9. Then with no time outs and 22 second left from the Cincy 47, had a Ben to AB incompletion turn into 30 yards of personal fouls, for a Boz chip shot, and 18-16 win.
Little tidbit, Steelers led 15-0 after a Ben to Martavis TD, midway thru the 3rd. XP makes it 16-0.
NumNutz went for 2. The Steelers wound up trailing by that 1 little point a little over a quarter later.

The Dolphins and Matt Moore, who has 32 career starts. The last convincing playoff win. Jan 8th, 2017. 30-12, as the Steelers led 30-6 with 2 minutes left in the third

KC and Alex Smith. Another 18 pointer from Tomlin and the Steelers. Boz has been saving this guy for a decade.
THIS IS THE LAST PLAYOFF WIN!!!!!
Jan. 15th, 2017 ( 2016 season )

And now the bad, the real bad.

5 straight playoff loses.
No other coach in NFL history survives what I am about to type.
Gave up 36, 45, 48, 42 and 31 in those 5 games, avg. of 40 points per

36 points to the Pats. Down 10-0 after the first quarter.
Down 36-9 early 4th quarter.
Biggest deficit - 27 points

45 points to the Jags. Down 14-0 after the first quarter.
down 21-0 early 2nd and 28-7 with :25 seconds to the half.
Biggest deficit - 21 points

48 to the Browns. Down 28-0 after the first quarter.
Down 35-7 before a Boz Fg with time expiring at the half.
Biggest deficit - 28 points

42 points to KC.
Only game of the last 5 playoff games in which we had a lead.
TJ Watt, 26 yd fumble return for a TD early 2nd quarter.
Then KC stomped....21-7 at the half, 35-7 by late 3rd.
Biggest deficit - 28 points

31 points to Buffalo. Down 14-0 after the first quarter.
21-0 with less than 2 minutes to the half.
Biggest deficit - 21 points

How teams start games is indictive of how teams studied, game planned, schemed, motivated, prepared, play called, etc....
It all starts long before kick-off. It starts with the Head Coach.
Combined 66-0 after one quarter of play.
No other coach survives this. "Tomlin is one of the best NFL coaches."

I have said it before, many times....may as well say it again.
The Steelers lose more games before kick off, than any team in football.

Combined to be down 122-47 at the half.
No other coach survives this. "Tomlin will get another job in 2 seconds."

Deficits of 27, 21, 28, 28 and 21.
No other coach survives this. "Tomlin is loved by the masses, media and non-Steeler fans."

In the last 5 playoff games, the Steelers had a lead for a total of 6 minutes of football, out of 300 minutes of football.
No other coach survives this. "3 coaches in 55 years"

Tomlin has won a playoff game in only 4 of his 18 seasons.
7, one and done playoff seasons.

What will the 2025 playoff game bring to this story.

Please let it end.

It's really mind boggling that he is still employed as a head coach. The only one worse is Marvin Lewis. Tomlin is signed through 2027, so hopefully by 2030 maybe 2029 the new regime turns things around.

[DumlinBumlinStumlin]

the compilation of stats under this mediocre/below the bar operation is mind boggling.

Art 2 needs and intervention going on from his family members. Do they continue to pretend to fool most of the fanbase? (there are so many that are simply dumber than dirt not to see what they've been doing for 15 years now) - If Art's got any last straw left is the "Must win a playoff game" ultimatum from last offseason. Let's pray for the next drubbing and the internal fire starts on removing Tomlin and Art 2 stepping aside for new blood, blood that cares about Football. (lets hope on Dan Rooney Jr (Art2's Bro) & Dan Martin Rooney (Art2's son) - being ready to take over the ship)

Wardrums on Thomas Tull assisting in this movement going come January too

[NCsteelerSU]

Money post Stosh thanks. If those of us sitting on our couch know that more than likely that Patterson is getting the ball, wtf about the professionals that put in 80+ hours a week? Mind boggling.

At this point I'm hoping we lose out, including some 1st round shitting of the bed and by some miracle shades gets canned.

[Orangesteel]

I agree with Lipps; if Tacobelle Patterson sucks at every phase they want to use him in, how exactly is that helpful?

Kick returner? Sucks
Running back? Sucks
Split back? Basically sucks even though he made a nice contested grab last week.

Just stop with the guy. He’s not it.

[Deebo]

I agree with Lipps; if Tacobelle Patterson sucks at every phase they want to use him in, how exactly is that helpful?

Kick returner? Sucks
Running back? Sucks
Split back? Basically sucks even though he made a nice contested grab last week.

Just stop with the guy. He’s not it.

Can say the same thing about C Heyward

"Hey he can play multiple positions"

"Can he play any of them well?"

"He's ok at Special Teams"

"Ok pencil him in for 20% of the offensive snaps this week"

[955876]

And in possibly Tomlins most embarrassing call of the season....
The Steelers, after going down 13-0 after one quarter of embarrassing football,
After righting the ship and scoring an NFL TD to make it 13-7.
After forcing KC to punt with 6 minutes to the half,
After building some momentum,
After moving the ball close to midfield with less than 3 minutes to the half,
After getting the festive home town crowd back on its feet,
After living rooms around the country tune in on Netfliz.......as Steelers fans around the world get a chance to watch their Steelers, from New York and New Jersey, to New Zealand, to New Guinea....................

We hand the ball to 57 year old Patterson on 3rd and 3.................

This right here is why Jibbs is and will always be a bad HC.

[Stosh-67]

I agree with Lipps; if Tacobelle Patterson sucks at every phase they want to use him in, how exactly is that helpful?

Kick returner? Sucks
Running back? Sucks
Split back? Basically sucks even though he made a nice contested grab last week.

Just stop with the guy. He’s not it.

Can say the same thing about C Heyward

"Hey he can play multiple positions"

"Can he play any of them well?"

"He's ok at Special Teams"

"Ok pencil him in for 20% of the offensive snaps this week"

Connor on the field for 28% of the snaps............is just mind boggling.
Like you guys said.
He is not very good at any of the multiple positions he plays.
He is not a receiving threat.....as most of his catches are at the line of scrimmage.
He is not a fast TE.
He is not a big TE, at 6'-0" 230.
He is a short TE.
He is not a quick twitch player.
He is not an inline blocking TE....too small.
He is not effective in that HB spot, going in motion and cutting up thru guards to make a block.
Seems like he is late or blown up time after time.
He is NOT a FB.....as I when I see him lined up at FB on 3rd or 4th and 1.......I have zero confidence in his block being the one that helped convert the down. He does not have that quick twitch burst a FB should have.

How on earth does Tomlin think 21 snaps to C.H. vs KC is part of a winning formula.
Over giving 21 snaps....or 15 to Roman Wilson.

The Roman Wilson Saga is mystifying.

How would the speed of Roman Wilson and Austin, paired with Pickens look running thru the secondary.

[Stosh-67]

And in possibly Tomlins most embarrassing call of the season....
The Steelers, after going down 13-0 after one quarter of embarrassing football,
After righting the ship and scoring an NFL TD to make it 13-7.
After forcing KC to punt with 6 minutes to the half,
After building some momentum,
After moving the ball close to midfield with less than 3 minutes to the half,
After getting the festive home town crowd back on its feet,
After living rooms around the country tune in on Netfliz.......as Steelers fans around the world get a chance to watch their Steelers, from New York and New Jersey, to New Zealand, to New Guinea....................

We hand the ball to 57 year old Patterson on 3rd and 3.................

This right here is why Jibbs is and will always be a bad HC.

He is a momentum crusher.
Always has been.
Always will.

How many times after big turnovers, takeaways, plays, etc...
Will they revert back to heavy package, tight set, hand-off to the back, to run up the ass of our OL.....because the predictable play calling and pattern, has 11 defenders, running thru 9 blockers.