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Posted: **Thu Dec 26, 2024 7:19 pm**

According to Fitapaldo:

Opening series 1st down pass to Muth...didn't run a route.
Harris' 1 yard run.
3rd & 2 Shotgun...Pickens walked 2 yards.
Wilson's interception...didn't run the vertical.

Best player on the offense. Probably the most under-utilized player on offense.

Offense will blow with this shit going on....Tomlin not drafting character guys, or Tomlin's speil not getting thru, or this team is just this bad?

Posted: **Thu Dec 26, 2024 8:08 pm**

Who is sitting and interviewing these guys?

Posted: **Thu Dec 26, 2024 8:14 pm**

It's been going on since last year. Better question: who's coaching these guys?

Posted: **Thu Dec 26, 2024 8:28 pm**

Posted: **Thu Dec 26, 2024 8:37 pm**

If we [Fans] are this frustrated Can you Imagine what Players are experiencing?

Posted: **Thu Dec 26, 2024 10:25 pm**

Stosh-67 wrote: ↑
Thu Dec 26, 2024 8:08 pm
Who is sitting and interviewing these guys?

Press or do you mean before drafting?

Most of these are post game locker room interviews with press pool circling around.

The piece above was Ray F. And D Carter from the Post Gazette. They observed GP loafing almost immediately according to them from the press box.

https://youtu.be/jHUecQMFyMw

If you mean who is doing pre-draft interviews I would expect panel interviews from scouting that get distilled down to Khan, Tomlin and the coordinators before draft.

But that is just a Cliff Clavin guess. Probably gut bypass interviews.

Posted: **Thu Dec 26, 2024 10:35 pm**

I knew GP caused that interception.

That’s a TD if Pickens runs his route because Pickens demands safety help over the top.

The Steelers might have to spend a 1st and a 3rd on WR’s.

You can’t pay a guy that doesn’t go 100% every play especially when he’s your most important player on offense besides the QB.

I couldn’t give a flying fuck how frustrated Pickens is. He cost
them a TD just like Darnell Washington.

Fucking cocksucker.

Posted: **Thu Dec 26, 2024 10:50 pm**

K_C_ wrote: ↑
Thu Dec 26, 2024 10:35 pm
I knew GP caused that interception.

That’s a TD if Pickens runs his route because Pickens demands safety help over the top.

The Steelers might have to spend a 1st and a 3rd on WR’s.

You can’t pay a guy that doesn’t go 100% every play especially when he’s your most important player on offense besides the QB.

I couldn’t give a flying fuck how frustrated Pickens is. He cost
them a TD just like Darnell Washington.

Fucking cocksucker.

He’s the worst kind of player to have on any team sport, ultra talented but not detailed and a me guy not a team guy, I would have a very hard time offering him contract 2, and I love his talent, but his lack of discipline and attention to detail makes him an undesirable PRO.

Posted: **Thu Dec 26, 2024 11:43 pm**

+1 sds, he looks like a flipping 5 yo throwing a tantrum half the time. The bs not running that vertical on the int was huge, I'm so over these diva bitch ass receivers.

Posted: **Thu Dec 26, 2024 11:49 pm**

NCsteelerSU wrote: ↑
Thu Dec 26, 2024 11:43 pm
+1 sds, he looks like a flipping 5 yo throwing a tantrum half the time. The bs not running that vertical on the int was huge, I'm so over these diva bitch ass receivers.

I get Pickens is frustrated.

I'm sure Jaylen Warren, Freiermuth, Calvin Austin, Mike Williams, Van Jefferson and many others are frustrated.

You know what though? They are still going 100% on every fucking play, no matter how frustrated they are.

If Pickens can't do the same, literally no matter the situation, he has no business playing professional football.

Posted: **Fri Dec 27, 2024 1:21 am**

Ovie wrote: ↑
Thu Dec 26, 2024 8:14 pm
who's coaching these guys?

Mike Tomlin: turd whisperer

Posted: **Fri Dec 27, 2024 3:05 am**

I liked Pickens because of his talent and his dgaf antics towards other teams but they need to trade him this offseason. His attitude is only going to get worse. Get a high draft pick for him while you can.

Posted: **Fri Dec 27, 2024 6:12 am**

He did it right at the start of the game. What the hell was he frustrated by? I have to wonder how hurt he actually was.

Posted: **Fri Dec 27, 2024 6:19 am**

At this point, I’d dump Pickens for a second-round pick.

Posted: **Fri Dec 27, 2024 3:43 pm**

.Kodiak wrote: ↑
Fri Dec 27, 2024 1:21 am

Ovie wrote: ↑
Thu Dec 26, 2024 8:14 pm
who's coaching these guys?
Mike Tomlin: turd whisperer

I've said it over and over again — for years and years.....Blind leading the blind!

Posted: **Fri Dec 27, 2024 4:37 pm**

Who Dee Knee wrote: ↑
Fri Dec 27, 2024 6:19 am
At this point, I’d dump Pickens for a second-round pick.

I agree...ship him out but have a plan to replace him. Trade him to a perennially bad team and get an early second round pick for him.

Posted: **Fri Dec 27, 2024 5:30 pm**

K_C_ wrote: ↑
Thu Dec 26, 2024 11:49 pm

NCsteelerSU wrote: ↑
Thu Dec 26, 2024 11:43 pm
+1 sds, he looks like a flipping 5 yo throwing a tantrum half the time. The bs not running that vertical on the int was huge, I'm so over these diva bitch ass receivers.
I get Pickens is frustrated.

I'm sure Jaylen Warren, Freiermuth, Calvin Austin, Mike Williams, Van Jefferson and many others are frustrated.

You know what though? They are still going 100% on every fucking play, no matter how frustrated they are.

If Pickens can't do the same, literally no matter the situation, he has no business playing professional football.

I’m sure Hines Ward got frustrated too.

Never stopped him from doing all the little things.

And people say how players love playing for Tomlin. Ummm no they don’t.

What they love is being on a team with a soft HC who never rectifies bad behavior.

Well, aside from that one time he took ping pong away.

Aside from that, he’s their buddy.

Players that have respect for their HC don’t dog it.

Break down how many minutes a guy like GP is actually on the field and asked to work.

Lazy & selfish punk is what he is.

Tremendous talent but is a me first asshole.

Posted: **Fri Dec 27, 2024 6:49 pm**

Even more than Tomlin being the players’’ buddy and friend there’s that added element of nepotism.

Cam Heyward
TJ Watt
Nate Herbig

These guys aren’t just buddies with Tomlin, they’re indebted to him for bringing their brothers to the team.

Veterans like Cam and Watt know what time it is, but they will NEVER question Tomlin.

Loyalty (blind)

Now Pat Queen and Dashon Elliott on the other hand.

These two guys are on a verbal heater

Two veterans from the Ravens’ organization who know what a winning culture is supposed to look like.

They know about accountability, scheme, and coaching.

They experienced the rivalry

They THOUGHT they were signing on with at least a similar culture to that of which they once thrived.

Now?

They’re seeing Tomlin’s warts first hand and aren’t sitting idly by and saying nothing like the Watts and Heywards.

Loyalty

Some people make you earn it

Posted: **Fri Dec 27, 2024 7:35 pm**

Yep. The nepotism is bad.

As is allowing Arthur Smith to give the ball to his buddy from Atlanta in key situations.

Winning only matters if we’ve checked all the boxes.

Got Cam’s little brother on the field to start games.

Got almost ready for social security Coradelle Patterson some key third down carries.

Elevated Najee as a leader of young men by feeding him carries.

Posted: **Fri Dec 27, 2024 8:09 pm**

Steeldrama wrote: ↑
Fri Dec 27, 2024 6:49 pm
Even more than Tomlin being the players’’ buddy and friend there’s that added element of nepotism.

Cam Heyward
TJ Watt
Nate Herbig

These guys aren’t just buddies with Tomlin, they’re indebted to him for bringing their brothers to the team.

Veterans like Cam and Watt know what time it is, but they will NEVER question Tomlin.

Loyalty (blind)

Now Pat Queen and Dashon Elliott on the other hand.

These two guys are on a verbal heater

Two veterans from the Ravens’ organization who know what a winning culture is supposed to look like.

They know about accountability, scheme, and coaching.

They experienced the rivalry

They THOUGHT they were signing on with at least a similar culture to that of which they once thrived.

Now?

They’re seeing Tomlin’s warts first hand and aren’t sitting idly by and saying nothing like the Watts and Heywards.

Loyalty

Some people make you earn it

Belichick cut gronk's brother...didn't give a fuck.

Posted: **Sat Dec 28, 2024 4:39 pm**

K_C_ wrote: ↑
Thu Dec 26, 2024 10:35 pm
I knew GP caused that interception.

That’s a TD if Pickens runs his route because Pickens demands safety help over the top.

The Steelers might have to spend a 1st and a 3rd on WR’s.

You can’t pay a guy that doesn’t go 100% every play especially when he’s your most important player on offense besides the QB.

I couldn’t give a flying fuck how frustrated Pickens is. He cost
them a TD just like Darnell Washington.

Fucking cocksucker.

The thing is, Pickens looked genuinely upset after that interception...like he knew he had a brain fart and ran the wrong route.

So he may still be loafing, but I think he genuinely screwed up there and thought he was supposed to stop his route...don't ask me why he would have thought that, though.

Posted: **Sat Dec 28, 2024 6:48 pm**

jeemie wrote: ↑
Sat Dec 28, 2024 4:39 pm

K_C_ wrote: ↑
Thu Dec 26, 2024 10:35 pm
I knew GP caused that interception.

That’s a TD if Pickens runs his route because Pickens demands safety help over the top.

The Steelers might have to spend a 1st and a 3rd on WR’s.

You can’t pay a guy that doesn’t go 100% every play especially when he’s your most important player on offense besides the QB.

I couldn’t give a flying fuck how frustrated Pickens is. He cost
them a TD just like Darnell Washington.

Fucking cocksucker.
The thing is, Pickens looked genuinely upset after that interception...like he knew he had a brain fart and ran the wrong route.

So he may still be loafing, but I think he genuinely screwed up there and thought he was supposed to stop his route...don't ask me why he would have thought that, though.

Personally and I could be wrong, I think Pickens was still pissed that Darnell Washington held on the previous play, negating the TD.

......and Pickens wasn't focused on the very next play, where he needed to get downfield and draw safety help. That's been a knock on Pickens for a while, that he can't let go of bad plays (by teammates, not so much himself.)

Again, it's possible Pickens fucked up on that INT and was pissed off at himself for not running the right route, but I actually think Pickens was still pissed off about the TD being negated by a brainless hold

Posted: **Sat Dec 28, 2024 8:35 pm**

I have a feeling trading Pickens is going to be priority #1 this offseason.

Posted: **Sat Dec 28, 2024 9:08 pm**

No team is going to give draft capital for head case / 70% effort Pickens. Yes, his raw talent is insane but who will take that gamble? Best we will get is a 3rd or him IMO. At that point, is it worth the trade? Wouldn't we get a high compensatory pick for him anyway?

Posted: **Sat Dec 28, 2024 10:21 pm**

Personally and I could be wrong, I think Pickens was still pissed that Darnell Washington held on the previous play, negating the TD.

......and Pickens wasn't focused on the very next play, where he needed to get downfield and draw safety help. That's been a knock on Pickens for a while, that he can't let go of bad plays (by teammates, not so much himself.)

If true, he’s as weak minded as one can be.

Pathetic.

Just go play dude. The game is 60 minutes. You are on the field less than half that.

You can go hard for 28 minutes once a week?

Pathetic.

He doesn’t play hard for his “players Coach”, nor his teammates, nor himself.

Pathetic.

Posted: **Sat Dec 28, 2024 11:52 pm**

K_C_ wrote: ↑
Sat Dec 28, 2024 6:48 pm

jeemie wrote: ↑
Sat Dec 28, 2024 4:39 pm

K_C_ wrote: ↑
Thu Dec 26, 2024 10:35 pm
I knew GP caused that interception.

That’s a TD if Pickens runs his route because Pickens demands safety help over the top.

The Steelers might have to spend a 1st and a 3rd on WR’s.

You can’t pay a guy that doesn’t go 100% every play especially when he’s your most important player on offense besides the QB.

I couldn’t give a flying fuck how frustrated Pickens is. He cost
them a TD just like Darnell Washington.

Fucking cocksucker.
The thing is, Pickens looked genuinely upset after that interception...like he knew he had a brain fart and ran the wrong route.

So he may still be loafing, but I think he genuinely screwed up there and thought he was supposed to stop his route...don't ask me why he would have thought that, though.
Personally and I could be wrong, I think Pickens was still pissed that Darnell Washington held on the previous play, negating the TD.

......and Pickens wasn't focused on the very next play, where he needed to get downfield and draw safety help. That's been a knock on Pickens for a while, that he can't let go of bad plays (by teammates, not so much himself.)

Again, it's possible Pickens fucked up on that INT and was pissed off at himself for not running the right route, but I actually think Pickens was still pissed off about the TD being negated by a brainless hold

This is a good point... I hadn't considered that.

You very well may be right.

Posted: **Sat Dec 28, 2024 11:58 pm**

I'd trade him this offseason.

I'd say there is a 50/50 chance he demands a trade this offseason anyways.

And we're not going to invest in the QB position how we need to for it to improve it enough for him to want to be here, so he's going to be malcontent.

Throw a bag at Tee, trade Pickens for a second, and draft a dude who is electric and can win easy against man coverage.

Posted: **Sun Dec 29, 2024 2:11 pm**

tbsteel wrote: ↑
Sat Dec 28, 2024 11:58 pm
I'd trade him this offseason.

I'd say there is a 50/50 chance he demands a trade this offseason anyways.

And we're not going to invest in the QB position how we need to for it to improve it enough for him to want to be here, so he's going to be malcontent.

Throw a bag at Tee, trade Pickens for a second, and draft a dude who is electric and can win easy against man coverage.

If I'm GP, you can take it to the bank that I'm going ANYWHERE but Pittsburgh next year unless they break the piggy bank. We don't need WR's anyway. Just put 4 TE's and a tackle eligible out there every play and pound the rock. That's what Art and Mike want, right?

Posted: **Sun Dec 29, 2024 3:15 pm**

If I woke up tomorrow with my head sewn to the carpet I wouldn’t be more surprised if Tee Higgins signed with the Steelers

Dude played phenomenal last night

Steelers won’t pay that hefty sticker price and Higgins isn’t leaving Joe Burrow for Tomlin and Uncle Artie

A fragile Chris Godwin is more in their wheelhouse but even that seems a bit too optimistic.

Sign a mid tier WR and a rookie who can hopefully jump on a moving train is probably the best y’all can hope for.

As for my guy Georgie?

Adios Amigo

Better hope there’s a desperate (dumb) team out there because I don’t think they sniff a 2nd for that half a meatball

Here’s to hoping

Posted: **Sun Dec 29, 2024 3:41 pm**

Steeldrama wrote: ↑
Sun Dec 29, 2024 3:15 pm
If I woke up tomorrow with my head sewn to the carpet I wouldn’t be more surprised if Tee Higgins signed with the Steelers

Dude played phenomenal last night

Steelers won’t pay that hefty sticker price and Higgins isn’t leaving Joe Burrow for Tomlin and Uncle Artie

A fragile Chris Godwin is more in their wheelhouse but even that seems a bit too optimistic.

Sign a mid tier WR and a rookie who can hopefully jump on a moving train is probably the best y’all can hope for.

As for my guy Georgie?

Adios Amigo

Better hope there’s a desperate (dumb) team out there because I don’t think they sniff a 2nd for that half a meatball

Here’s to hoping

I don't know if the Steelers would pony up for Higgins, but I see no way Cincy can pay Chase, Higgins and Burrow top tier money.

Higgins probably won't end up in Pittsburgh, but I'll be shocked if he remains a Bengal next season.

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