Florio- Watt/Steelers Renew Vows or Divorce?

[Steeldrama]

https://www.nbcsports.com/nfl/profootba ... r-divorce

Ahhh good old “Low Watt”

Slow time of the NFL offseason right here.

Is TJ following the Myles Garrett path to getting paid?

Posting the “deuces” on social media a “hey look at me, I’m unhappy” attempt to draw attention to his contract status while the Steelers sit around twiddling their thumbs waiting on Aaron Rodgers.

What should the Steelers do here (Would Tomlin really part with his NHALS binky?)

I knoooow what I’d do, but what would you do?

Mega new contact?

Play out the season??

Trade his ass???

[CKSteeler]

Enough reporters have dug into this and said there's something there to where there probably is. It's a very low-key, non-aggressive way to get the organization's attention via the fans.

I don't trust the current brain trust to draft and develop a QB. The only scenario where it's worth trading Watt is to get your QB to me. You get the right QB, and on paper they could be a Super Bowl contender. In reality, the same thing that will stop them from doing that is the same thing that would keep them out of the conversation even if they lucked into the next Roethlisberger.

[.Kodiak]

Like most people, I just don't care. None of it matters until Tomlin is gone.

I still enjoy watching TJ play, at least for the first 5-6 games of the season or so. I'd rather not trade every decent player away just to give Tomlin a bunch of picks to waste.

When Tomlin is gone, they SHOULD blow it all up. The team lacks leadership. And, apparently, lacks guys who are driven to win games that matter. Tomlin has also destroyed the culture. This team doesn't have a single player with a championship mindset.

[alancac98]

Honestly, If TJ had any brains or desire to try and win a ring, he should not want to resign with the Steelers. In fact, he should be demanding a trade! But, he is all in on the "Tomlin is the greatest coach" bull crap, so he should just sit there and wait his turn as the good little soldier!

[955876]

Honestly, If TJ had any brains or desire to try and win a ring, he should not want to resign with the Steelers. In fact, he should be demanding a trade! But, he is all in on the "Tomlin is the greatest coach" bull crap, so he should just sit there and wait his turn as the good little soldier!

At this point I’m hoping he and Captain Cam both finish their careers with ZERO playoff wins.

Super deserving for a couple of brown nosed yes men.

[Dan Smith--BYU]

Rooney and Tomlin deserve nothing less that Watt signing with the Ravens.

[W&M_Steeler]

Honestly, If TJ had any brains or desire to try and win a ring, he should not want to resign with the Steelers. In fact, he should be demanding a trade! But, he is all in on the "Tomlin is the greatest coach" bull crap, so he should just sit there and wait his turn as the good little soldier!

At this point I’m hoping he and Captain Cam both finish their careers with ZERO playoff wins.

Super deserving for a couple of brown nosed yes men.

Cam actually played in one playoff win- 2015 against the Bengals. Still a pretty pathetic track record all things considered.

[R_S]

Seems to a lot of reading into a picture with the deuces up. Maybe he liked how he looked? I can't seemed to even find it on his IG. Maybe he was surprised at the shitstorm it started and decided to take it down.

[tbsteel]

Even in a best case scenario, where the Steelers land a dynamite young franchise QB at some point soon and nail the next couple of drafts, they're still 2-3 years away from being a legit contender. And that's best case.

T.J. Watt turns 31 this year. What will his role be in 2-3 years?

If they can get multiple picks for him, and if they're actually interested in trying to escape the purgatory they're currently in as opposed to just getting a participation trophy for being the 7th seed and getting run off the field the first 10 minutes of a playoff game, it's an easy call to make.

[955876]

Cam actually played in one playoff win- 2015 against the Bengals. Still a pretty pathetic track record all things considered.

Forgot bout that.

And that win came via two huge mental fuckups on the Bungs part.

Had they not committed 30 yards of personal fouls on that final drive we could very well have lost that one too.

[955876]

If they can get multiple picks for him, and if they're actually interested in trying to escape the purgatory they're currently in as opposed to just getting a participation trophy for being the 7th seed and getting run off the field the first 10 minutes of a playoff game, it's an easy call to make.

This.

Bit that isn’t Dunce or Jibbs. This team cares bout NHALS and that playoff participation trophy more than they care bout winning a championship.

And the reason for that is they FEAR having a losing season above all else.

They have zero longer term plan. All they care about is giving the impression they are trying then gaslighting the fan base.

It’s pathetic and a shame what this franchise has become.

Given that most are mouth breathing idiots it works.

But that is starting to change.

[langer]

How many Super Bowls has J.J. Watt won?

J.J. Watt has never won a Super Bowl.

[Gonzo]

If they can get multiple picks for him, and if they're actually interested in trying to escape the purgatory they're currently in as opposed to just getting a participation trophy for being the 7th seed and getting run off the field the first 10 minutes of a playoff game, it's an easy call to make.

This.

Bit that isn’t Dunce or Jibbs. This team cares bout NHALS and that playoff participation trophy more than they care bout winning a championship.

And the reason for that is they FEAR having a losing season above all else.

They have zero longer term plan. All they care about is giving the impression they are trying then gaslighting the fan base.

It’s pathetic and a shame what this franchise has become.

Given that most are mouth breathing idiots it works.

But that is starting to change.

I have come to a similar conclusion -- this is a team thing ... its not just MT and Rooney ... its the player leaders as well. But it is MT that has built this all intentionally -- he has built a cadre of like-minded individuals that will close ranks when their paychecks are under threat. This about long-term cash flow

[.Kodiak]

I have come to a similar conclusion -- this is a team thing ... its not just MT and Rooney ... its the player leaders as well. But it is MT that has built this all intentionally -- he has built a cadre of like-minded individuals that will close ranks when their paychecks are under threat. This about long-term cash flow

There's no real drive to be great. Tomlin enables rather than pushes his stars. It was mentioned TJ wasn't moving around sets because TJ didn't want to move around. And, of course, Ben infamously didn't like turning his back to the defense (on PA) or apparently running the sneak.

You think Noll would have let those guys just coast on their generational talent? You think Belicheat would have been like "I'm good - you decide on how hard you need to work"?!?


Tomlin inherited a SB-ready roster and staff. He's going to leave an absolute dumpster fire - nothing worth keeping (well, maybe Boswell) - including having destroyed a championship culture. These guys don't really even give a shit about not having won a playoff game in 8+ years.

[Dan Smith--BYU]

As great at TJ has been this is the ideal time to trade him for picks.

That being said, none of this matters as long as Rooney is the owner.

[sinceiwas4]

I have come to a similar conclusion -- this is a team thing ... its not just MT and Rooney ... its the player leaders as well. But it is MT that has built this all intentionally -- he has built a cadre of like-minded individuals that will close ranks when their paychecks are under threat. This about long-term cash flow

There's no real drive to be great. Tomlin enables rather than pushes his stars. It was mentioned TJ wasn't moving around sets because TJ didn't want to move around. And, of course, Ben infamously didn't like turning his back to the defense (on PA) or apparently running the sneak.

You think Noll would have let those guys just coast on their generational talent? You think Belicheat would have been like "I'm good - you decide on how hard you need to work"?!?


Tomlin inherited a SB-ready roster and staff. He's going to leave an absolute dumpster fire - nothing worth keeping (well, maybe Boswell) - including having destroyed a championship culture. These guys don't really even give a shit about not having won a playoff game in 8+ years.

its ...umm... hopeful? of you to think Boswell wont be long gone before Tomlin retires

[955876]

its the player leaders as well.

Yep.

Remember when this team rallied around Jerome to get him to the SB in Detroit?

Remember that drive Cowher had to “win one for the thumb”?

This team has none of that mojo.

[steelclan]

If Steelers want to get out of purgatory? They need to do something drastic.

Trade Watt to the Lions, Bills or KC. They all need a premier defensive player and would likely give up more than a 1st to get TJ.

With an added first and 3rd or more, Steelers could build up in trenches, especially on the dline. If that means sucking for a season, fine.

Then next year take a shot at a franchise QB.

Hell I' d see what they can get for Minkah as well, someone offers a 3rd or even a 4th? Pull the trigger.

[Dan Smith--BYU]

You can't drive a car looking in the rear view mirror.

A TJ trade now is like the late career Pujols trade, if you wait you won't get shit for him and you'll be stuck with the salary.

Plus it's only fair to a great player to give him a legit shot with a real team.

[TTP]

If Steelers want to get out of purgatory? They need to do something drastic.

Trade Watt to the Lions, Bills or KC. They all need a premier defensive player and would likely give up more than a 1st to get TJ.

With an added first and 3rd or more, Steelers could build up in trenches, especially on the dline. If that means sucking for a season, fine.

Then next year take a shot at a franchise QB.

Hell I' d see what they can get for Minkah as well, someone offers a 3rd or even a 4th? Pull the trigger.

The problem is the Steelers don't see themselves in purgatory. They (maybe just Tomlin?) think that a little bit of competent QB plan and few breaks will net a SB. Everything they've done this offseason points in that direction - pursuit of Rodger, trading for Metcalf, etc. It's delusional.

Trading TJ now is the right move but they won't do it.

[955876]

Hell I' d see what they can get for Minkah as well,

If no takers we should just cut Casper the Friendly Ghost.

Saying that without knowing cap ramifications

[CKSteeler]

If Steelers want to get out of purgatory? They need to do something drastic.

Trade Watt to the Lions, Bills or KC. They all need a premier defensive player and would likely give up more than a 1st to get TJ.

With an added first and 3rd or more, Steelers could build up in trenches, especially on the dline. If that means sucking for a season, fine.

Then next year take a shot at a franchise QB.

Hell I' d see what they can get for Minkah as well, someone offers a 3rd or even a 4th? Pull the trigger.

The problem is the Steelers don't see themselves in purgatory. They (maybe just Tomlin?) think that a little bit of competent QB plan and few breaks will net a SB. Everything they've done this offseason points in that direction - pursuit of Rodger, trading for Metcalf, etc. It's delusional.

Trading TJ now is the right move but they won't do it.

This is why I'm like who cares what they do? If the team is delusional at the top about where they actually stand and what their problems are, they aren't going to get fixed.

The team is fundamentally flawed. They aren't a few tweaks or even a generational QB away from winning it all.

The right move is to move on from the aging vets who won't be here for a legit Super Bowl window. But they aren't getting that window with this leadership anyway.

[Thrillsseeker]

Hell I' d see what they can get for Minkah as well,

If no takers we should just cut Casper the Friendly Ghost.

Saying that without knowing cap ramifications

Hahahahaha. Right on. I keep wondering if last year was in fact “MinkaBall?”

Asking for a friend.

[Professor Half Wit]

Like most people, I just don't care. None of it matters until Tomlin is gone.

+1,000,000

[steelmann58]

Depends on the offer you need to listen

[JackLambert58]

Like most people, I just don't care. None of it matters until Tomlin is gone.

I still enjoy watching TJ play, at least for the first 5-6 games of the season or so. I'd rather not trade every decent player away just to give Tomlin a bunch of picks to waste.

When Tomlin is gone, they SHOULD blow it all up. The team lacks leadership. And, apparently, lacks guys who are driven to win games that matter. Tomlin has also destroyed the culture. This team doesn't have a single player with a championship mindset.

100%

[SteelerDayTrader]

1) I’m always right. About everything.
2) Low Watt and his unclutch slacker ass should’ve been traded LONG AGO
3) Quite a few of these losers should’ve been traded long ago. If I was GM I’d make these trades and try to load up for the draft

Low Watt 2 2026 3
Pickens 3 2026 6
Scam 5 2026 6
Fitzpatrick 4 2026 5
Frazier 4 2026 6
Highsmith 4 2026 5
Friermuth 5 2026 7

Then…..Take the inevitable not top tier QB in the 1st
And fill in elsewhere and you still have a better team this year and ammo next year to grab another rookie deal QB if this years model isn’t hitting goals

If the Steelers fuck up this draft at DL and RB I’m not gonna watch one damn game next year

[955876]

1) I’m always right. About everything.

Hmmmm, struck out pretty big not too long ago with one of your major proclamations.

Didn’t end up even being close to correct.

Delusions of grandeur are fun though. You keep making predictions while the smart money takes the opposite side.

I would be cool with trading Watt though. He’ll certainly be washed up by the time Jibba Jabber is gone so might as well fleece a legit contender for picks.

[955876]

If the Steelers fuck up this draft at DL and RB I’m not gonna watch one damn game next year

Lolz.

You’ll still watch and will still be posting mock drafts 2 weeks into the season.

[Deebo]

1) I’m always right. About everything.

Only Siths deal in absolutes...guess that checks out though