Round 4.123 EDGE Jack Sawyer, Ohio State

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Round 4.123 EDGE Jack Sawyer, Ohio State

Post by bradshaw2ben » Sat Apr 26, 2025 5:18 pm

JACK SAWYER, EDGE, Ohio State
6042 - 260 lbs - 0968 hand - 3168 arm - 7718 wing
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Age 23.0

HS RECRUITING: 5*

B2B Quick Take:
I generally dislike taking EDGE players who haven't tested, since testing highly correlates at this position. But even using the eye test, he seems to be a player who benefits from effort more than elite talent compared to elite EDGE rushers. However, extremely productive in terms of splash plays and big plays plus excellent leadership qualities, which I'm sure they love. I don't think he pops on tape in terms of traits like bend biut there is a heaviness and some power to be had, but he's a good football player who does make plays and is consistent and dependable vs. the run and gap discipline. I would say floor is good STs player and maybe he'll turn out to be more athletic in the NFL context than he seems now and continue his ability to find the football and make more plays than we'd think.. It's said that the Steelers rely heavily on ther coordinators in round 2 and 3; without a 2nd this year, this feels like rd 2 was the OC and Round 3 the DC. You could see a coach liking him more than scouts.[/b]

NFL Comparisons: Sam Hubbard.
Prospect did not work out at Combine nor pro day.

RAS N/A

Consensus Ranking: 61 (high 38, low 194)
Selected: 123
SFBoard Draft: 50

B2B Rank: 94
B2B Position Rank: 17th
NFL.com: 6.32 (overall 52nd, PR 11th)
Draftbuzz: 85.9. OVR 57, PR 12th)
Emory Hunt: 77 (PR 3rd 4-3 DE)

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1.554398148 Splash plays per game in his career. (Very Good/great)


AWARDS & ACCOMPLISHMENTS:
High school: 5-star recruit, top 5 overall prospect nationally.
2021: Played in 12 games as a reserve (13 tackles, 3 sacks, PBU, FF).
2022: Honorable Mention All-Big Ten Conference. Played in all 13 games with 3 starts (24 tackles, 6.5 TFLs with 4.5 sacks, PBU).
2023: Third-team All-Big Ten. Led team with 6.5 sacks. Tied for the team lead with 10 TFLs, 2 FFs. Started all 13 games (48 tackles, 2 PBUs, 2 FFs).
2024: Second-team All-Big Ten. Tied for the team lead with 3 FFs. Team captain. Cotton Bowl Defensive MVP (game-clinching 83-yard TD in the fourth quarter after causing and recovering a fumble on a sack of Texas QB Quinn Ewers). Started all 16 games for the national champions (59 tackles, 9 sacks, INT, 6 PBUs).

BIO:
The local kid who lived out his childhood dream, Jack Sawyer's journey from Pickerington to Ohio State feels like a throwback to an era before the transfer portal reshaped college football. Born just three miles from the Horseshoe at OhioHealth Riverside Methodist Hospital, Sawyer went from terrorizing quarterbacks at Pickerington North to becoming a cornerstone of the Buckeyes' defense. His path wasn't the meteoric rise many expected from a five-star recruit, but rather a steady climb that culminated in a statement senior season.

In an age where elite prospects rarely stay four years, Sawyer's development arc tells a different story. After contributing early with flashes of brilliance (7.5 sacks his first two seasons), he found his stride as a junior with 6.5 sacks and 10 TFLs. But it was his senior campaign where everything clicked – 9 sacks, 3 forced fumbles, and a signature moment in the Cotton Bowl where he strip-sacked Quinn Ewers and returned the fumble 83 yards to send Ohio State to the national championship game.

The former high school quarterback (who threw for over 1,000 yards at Pickerington North) brings rare athleticism to the edge position. His basketball background shows up in his fluid movement skills, while his defensive stats (144 career tackles, 23 sacks) only tell part of the story. Sawyer's evolution from raw athlete to refined technician mirrors his team's trajectory – peaking at the perfect moment during their championship run.
Brian Maafi Preseason Scouting Report:
[quoteFive-star from the Columbus area. impressive athlete. lacks ideal length. Flashed as a freshman. 11 pressures/4 sacks in '21. 3 starts in '22. Solid grades all around, a little inconsistent. 22 pressures, 3 sacks. Starter in '23. Solid all around grades. 30 pressures, 5 sacks[/quote]

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Overview
Dense-framed, even-front defensive end whose game is built for power but not speed. He has short arms and slow power to neutralize and overcome run blocks. However, he lacks a quick-win first step or twitchy stack-and-shed move. He locates the football and racks up tackles when runners near his gaps. He’s a force-based rusher using strong hands, a relentless motor and a pocket-caving charge to run up pressure totals, but his rush lacks quickness. He could see more interior rush opportunities for shorter trips into the pocket. Sawyer is suited for box-based football, which could cap his pro ceiling, but his demeanor, toughness and activity level provide a higher floor.

Strengths
Posted 4.5 sacks and 6 pass breakups during Ohio State’s four-game playoff run to the title.
Beats back-side cutoffs with quick reaction to lateral steps.
Sets a strong edge and can release back inside to tackle B-gap.
Strength makes run game wins feel inevitable if a blocker doesn’t finish him.
Instinctive talent for finding the tackle when he is in the vicinity.
Accurate hands find wrist control to deconstruct pass-pro punch.
Uses two-hand charge and long-arm stab to crater the pocket.
Keeps feet moving, making it tougher to mirror him.
Weaknesses
Gaps close down on him as a mid-twitch penetrator.
Needs to get hands involved more quickly to mitigate his lack of reach.
Missing functional speed to spill action wide in contain.
Modest upfield burst rarely allows him to beat tackles to the junction point.
Wide base limits quickness and success of his inside moves.
Lack of bend hinders ability to get into the pocket.
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Scouting Report: Strengths
Devastating power at the point of attack – consistently rocks back tackles with powerful first contact and maintains leverage through the rep
Natural instincts in the run game shine when diagnosing pulling guards and tight ends – quickly processes and attacks appropriate gap
Nasty bull rush that can cave in the pocket – shows exceptional leg drive and hip torque to convert speed to power
High-level football IQ translates to excellent play recognition – rarely fooled by misdirection or caught out of position
Cross-chop move is a thing of beauty – times it perfectly to get tackles leaning before clearing their hands
Runs hot as a pass rusher and shows relentless pursuit – multiple coverage sacks in 2023 from pure effort
Strong hands and excellent placement when taking on blocks – consistently controls the point of attack
Showcases natural leadership qualities and high character – two-time team captain who elevated in big moments
Scouting Report: Weaknesses
Below average get-off at the snap limits his ability to stress tackles around the edge – often last one moving on the defensive line
Lacks elite bend and ankle flexion to consistently turn tight corners – has to win with power or through direct lines
Hand timing in pass rush can be erratic – allows offensive linemen to land first punch too frequently
Change of direction limitations show up when countering back inside – spin move lacks the explosiveness to threaten NFL tackles
Despite good testing numbers, functional athleticism appears closer to average – may struggle to win with speed at next level
Scouting Report: Summary
Sawyer projects as an immediate contributor in base defensive packages with the potential to develop into an every-down player. His power game and run defense prowess will translate quickly to the NFL level, making him an attractive option for teams running even-front schemes that emphasize setting the edge. While he may never be an elite sack artist, his high motor and technical refinement should allow him to consistently affect the quarterback.

His best fit comes with a team that employs multiple defensive fronts and values strength at the point of attack. Sawyer's intelligence and versatility will allow defensive coordinators to move him around the formation, though he's most effective working from a three-point stance. Expect him to make an immediate impact against the run while developing into a 6-8 sack per year player who can stay on the field for all three downs.

The team that drafts Sawyer is getting more than just a football player – they're getting a culture-setter who plays with an old-school mentality. His trajectory suggests his best football is still ahead of him, and his combination of power, technique, and football IQ should make him a reliable starter for years to come.
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Strengths:
- Meat and potatoes type player who is fundamentally sound
and will keep you gap disciplined on his side of the line of
scrimmage. Got better every season at Ohio State.
- Shows that he’s good on both ends of defense; strong vs the
run game that does a good job of taking on and
subsequently disengaging from blocks; as well as an active
player in passing situations, to where he’s going to keep his
hands alive at the LOS if he can’t get the sack.
- An underrated sense of timing of when to make THE play.
Areas of Improvement:
- Not really twitchy or overly athletic, is pretty much decent in
all those categories as a prospect.
- Will need to add a little bit more creativity to his pass
rushing skill set as a pro. If you’re going to have one
dimension, it better be elite…and it isn’t, so more is
needed.
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Post by Steelafan77 » Sat Apr 26, 2025 5:21 pm

Expected edge drafted at some point today.

Started a run on edge here….lol.

Was hoping to see Safety or Dline double dip….

Even Oline, Miles Frazier still undrafted…

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Post by Dan Smith--BYU » Sat Apr 26, 2025 5:32 pm

NHALS pick...be good enough to beat bad and mediocre teams then give up 5 td in playoffs when they figure you out.
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Post by Mick » Sat Apr 26, 2025 5:45 pm

Yuck

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Post by Gonzo » Sat Apr 26, 2025 6:32 pm

meh

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Post by drmalba » Sat Apr 26, 2025 6:45 pm

I guess how we lost that playoff game definitely put a bee in Tomlin's bonnet.

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Post by langer » Sat Apr 26, 2025 7:35 pm

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Post by Charles Demarr » Sat Apr 26, 2025 9:08 pm

Great pick in the 4th. Motor and attitude.
In their current state, I hate everything about this organization.

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Post by bradshaw2ben » Sat Apr 26, 2025 9:09 pm

Charles Demarr wrote:
Sat Apr 26, 2025 9:08 pm
Great pick in the 4th. Motor and attitude.
Really really good strong side run defender. So, you could see this as a shot across Highsmith's bow.
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Post by langer » Sat Apr 26, 2025 9:15 pm

"I'm institutionalized, man," he joked. "I gotta have it. I just love the challenges week in and week out that this job provides: the growth in it, the collective growth, the individual growth."

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Post by Mick » Mon Apr 28, 2025 2:38 pm

Much as I’m not really a fan of the player, i get the feeling the Front Office Preferred RD4 Players were all gone at this point, and they took Sawyer on a BPA basis outside of position. And I want to be supportive of that approach; I’d always rather take a capable player at the wrong position over an incapable player at the right position. I would have preferred Ayomanor here, or if we had held off on RB there were still great options there.

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Post by LakecrestSteeler » Mon Apr 28, 2025 3:17 pm

drmalba wrote:
Sat Apr 26, 2025 6:45 pm
I guess how we lost that playoff game definitely put a bee in Tomlin's bonnet.
Was Edge the problem? I thought it was more scheme and coaching.

A good runner shows the Achilles heel of the super star all world edge rusher. Just keep chipping him, Watt, and have the coaches tell him to stay at home. That is what I remember did in the Steelers. And the DL was Swiss cheese. And Minkah is up on beach at Lake Erie.

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Post by steelclan » Mon Apr 28, 2025 11:17 pm

This pick is giving me Mike Vrbel vibes.

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Post by Steel Bingo » Mon Apr 28, 2025 11:46 pm

langer wrote:
Sat Apr 26, 2025 7:35 pm
Hardnosed lunchpailer, plays past the whistle, could work in a steel mill, good attitude, high football IQ, nasty, hates everyone, doesn't bathe during the season, throws 45s around like they're dinner plates, hero growing up was Bill Kazmeier, doesn't own a TV, sleeps on the floor, nasty disposition, caves in the pocket like a wrecking ball. I like the pick.
Visions of the real Andy Katzenmoyer.

Sign me up for the Jack Sawyer who was a gamebreaker when the lights were shining bright.

1.5 sacks vs. then undefeated Indiana. An interception in The Game. 4.5 sacks and 7 PBUs during the College Football Playoff. The 83 yd TD return in the Semifinal at the Cotton Bowl.

Quite the performer.

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Post by Ice » Mon Apr 28, 2025 11:58 pm

Dan Smith--BYU wrote:
Sat Apr 26, 2025 5:32 pm
NHALS pick...be good enough to beat bad and mediocre teams then give up 5 td in playoffs when they figure you out.
Actually played the best football of his career in the playoff, so there's that.
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Post by Professor Half Wit » Tue Apr 29, 2025 5:05 pm

bradshaw2ben wrote:
Sat Apr 26, 2025 9:09 pm
Charles Demarr wrote:
Sat Apr 26, 2025 9:08 pm
Great pick in the 4th. Motor and attitude.
Really really good strong side run defender. So, you could see this as a shot across Highsmith's bow.
Or an acknowledgement that Herbig doesn’t have the body to play the run.
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Post by bradshaw2ben » Tue Apr 29, 2025 5:13 pm

Professor Half Wit wrote:
Tue Apr 29, 2025 5:05 pm
bradshaw2ben wrote:
Sat Apr 26, 2025 9:09 pm
Charles Demarr wrote:
Sat Apr 26, 2025 9:08 pm
Great pick in the 4th. Motor and attitude.
Really really good strong side run defender. So, you could see this as a shot across Highsmith's bow.
Or an acknowledgement that Herbig doesn’t have the body to play the run.
I think Herbig is Watt's understudy. Speed guy on that weakside of the formation, stronger run defender on the strong side. If they rotate Watt out, I'd roll Herbig and Sawyer no problem as a pair. Until further notice, Herbig is the 2nd best EDGE pass rusher they have... but he's not playing the strong side and they don't move Watt around to give Herbig snaps at the correct spot.
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Post by PennyBacker » Wed Apr 30, 2025 1:10 am

Heyward and Sawyer have tOSU connection going. Teamed with TJ maybe they can get Captain Jack straightened out.

Stack the line, stuff the running back. Sounds like a good place for him to start.

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Post by CoolShades » Thu May 01, 2025 10:46 am

bradshaw2ben wrote:
Sat Apr 26, 2025 5:18 pm

It's said that the Steelers rely heavily on ther coordinators in round 2 and 3


Said by who? Is this rumor or fact?

If this is fact, I’m amazed. I can see these guys having some input, but there is no way If I am Colbert and now Khan/Weidl, I’m allowing any of the average minds who have occupied the OC/DC spots on the Steelers over the last decade plus having major input on draft picks.

I hope someday the truth comes out about the Steelers draft room during the Tomlin years. Story I heard was that Tomlin had ultimate control and the reason Colbert “retired” was because he lost the power struggle with Tomlin. Over the last couple of years, it looks like Khan/Weidl have taken some of the control back, which would be a great thing.
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Post by bradshaw2ben » Thu May 01, 2025 1:13 pm

CoolShades wrote:
Thu May 01, 2025 10:46 am
bradshaw2ben wrote:
Sat Apr 26, 2025 5:18 pm

It's said that the Steelers rely heavily on ther coordinators in round 2 and 3


Said by who? Is this rumor or fact?

If this is fact, I’m amazed. I can see these guys having some input, but there is no way If I am Colbert and now Khan/Weidl, I’m allowing any of the average minds who have occupied the OC/DC spots on the Steelers over the last decade plus having major input on draft picks.

I hope someday the truth comes out about the Steelers draft room during the Tomlin years. Story I heard was that Tomlin had ultimate control and the reason Colbert “retired” was because he lost the power struggle with Tomlin. Over the last couple of years, it looks like Khan/Weidl have taken some of the control back, which would be a great thing.
It's funny, AI is convinced (see screengrab) but I can't find the source of that. I'm sure that I have heard/read that multiple times... and if you look at their drafts it does make sense. For example, Sawyer is the kind of prospect that scouts are lukewarm on and that coaches love. Kaleb Johnson fits what the HC & OC want to do, which is have a high-volume rushing attack with a high-volume/bell-cow runner.

The Weidl side of things might have favored more high-end athletes, as they have in round 1 and day 3.
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Post by Stosh-67 » Thu May 01, 2025 2:58 pm

LakecrestSteeler wrote:
Mon Apr 28, 2025 3:17 pm
drmalba wrote:
Sat Apr 26, 2025 6:45 pm
I guess how we lost that playoff game definitely put a bee in Tomlin's bonnet.
Was Edge the problem? I thought it was more scheme and coaching.

A good runner shows the Achilles heel of the super star all world edge rusher. Just keep chipping him, Watt, and have the coaches tell him to stay at home. That is what I remember did in the Steelers. And the DL was Swiss cheese. And Minkah is up on beach at Lake Erie.
Probably the most perplexing coaching scheme I have scene watching football,
and never adjusting.
doing the same thing over and over,
and over again,
again.
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Post by Deebo » Thu May 01, 2025 3:01 pm

Can you imagine Canada having any fucking say what player we should take?
Imbeciles.

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Post by SteelerDayTrader » Thu May 01, 2025 3:32 pm

It’s been in print and stated many times over the years that the Steelers position coaches and particularly the STs coach have ALOT of say in who gets drafted in later rounds. The Steelers used to pretty much not tell you but wink wink nudge nudge tell you who drafted who because they’d have vids or statements up by almost exclusively THAT position coach on the player

IIRC (???) this goes back to at least Cowher and possibly (????) Noll. I remember having the feeling it was a longstanding tradition within the Steelers

Additionally I distinctly remember the coordinators being given the same treatment with early picks


I don’t doubt for one minute that the Steelers GM/HC have a lot of input, participate fully in setting the Steelers draft board and the available menu for each round. I also feel very certain they have final say and the ability to pull rank as it were on any pick

That said. I kinda doubt they WANT to do that and mostly let the coordinators and position coaches pick from the menu they’ve participated in setting

It certainly does explain a lot about the Steelers draft results over the years

I don’t doubt rd 1 is THE big focus pick of the organization and primarily a GM/HC teamwork pick in conjunction with the rest of the staff
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Post by Deebo » Thu May 01, 2025 7:10 pm

SteelerDayTrader wrote:
Thu May 01, 2025 3:32 pm
It’s been in print and stated many times over the years that the Steelers position coaches and particularly the STs coach have ALOT of say in who gets drafted in later rounds. The Steelers used to pretty much not tell you but wink wink nudge nudge tell you who drafted who because they’d have vids or statements up by almost exclusively THAT position coach on the player

IIRC (???) this goes back to at least Cowher and possibly (????) Noll. I remember having the feeling it was a longstanding tradition within the Steelers


Something has changed since the Cowher years.

In the early 90's this team would draft a player and let him cut his teeth on ST's for a year or 2. Then once they've done well in that arena, they were given playing opportunities. This was an outstanding philosophy to develop role players to support the stars.

Recently, there are no Orpheus Royes, Lee Flowers, Jerry Osalvskis, Myron Bell, Fred McAfees. The only person I can think of from the Tomlin years was Isaac Redman who played a larger supporting role.

This goes back to my general mantra that this team cannot develop players, period. It's a major fucking problem of why they can't get over the mediocre to pretty good hump.

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Post by Steeldrama » Thu May 01, 2025 7:30 pm

Deebo wrote:
Thu May 01, 2025 7:10 pm
SteelerDayTrader wrote:
Thu May 01, 2025 3:32 pm
It’s been in print and stated many times over the years that the Steelers position coaches and particularly the STs coach have ALOT of say in who gets drafted in later rounds. The Steelers used to pretty much not tell you but wink wink nudge nudge tell you who drafted who because they’d have vids or statements up by almost exclusively THAT position coach on the player

IIRC (???) this goes back to at least Cowher and possibly (????) Noll. I remember having the feeling it was a longstanding tradition within the Steelers


Something has changed since the Cowher years.

In the early 90's this team would draft a player and let him cut his teeth on ST's for a year or 2. Then once they've done well in that arena, they were given playing opportunities. This was an outstanding philosophy to develop role players to support the stars.

Recently, there are no Orpheus Royes, Lee Flowers, Jerry Osalvskis, Myron Bell, Fred McAfees. The only person I can think of from the Tomlin years was Isaac Redman who played a larger supporting role.

This goes back to my general mantra that this team cannot develop players, period. It's a major fucking problem of why they can't get over the mediocre to pretty good hump.
#Because Tomlin

Additionally, I think a lot of the problem with allowing kids to develop on special teams or bide their time behind an established vet is Covid and NIL.

These kids have what??? Like 6 years of eligibility? Theyre coming into the league much older than in the past.

Saints "rookie" QB Tyler Slough will turn 26 at the start of the season. The Saints aren't going to waste his prime years learning behind crappy ass Derek Carr.

But yes I too miss the Cowher years (for MANY reasons).

Nobody knew a Swiss Army knife out of UGA named Hines Ward would one day be the Steelers all-time receptions leader.
Kid cut his teeth on special teams.

We all make fun of the "Gildong" sack, but Cowher (and Lebeau) did it right making him learn behind HOFer Kevin Greene (RIP).

Chad Brown another example.

The Snake Charmer started out at middle linebacker next to the AWESOME Levon Kirkland before taking over for All-Pro Greg Lloyd on the outside.

Even Big Ben would've got more time to sit had Touchdown Tommy not gotten injured.

Sure there were plug and plays like Casey Hampton etc but man Cowher was LIGHT YEARS ahead of Tomlin in all things coaching but perhaps none more so than player development.
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Post by CoolShades » Fri May 02, 2025 2:13 am

Deebo wrote:
Thu May 01, 2025 7:10 pm
SteelerDayTrader wrote:
Thu May 01, 2025 3:32 pm
It’s been in print and stated many times over the years that the Steelers position coaches and particularly the STs coach have ALOT of say in who gets drafted in later rounds. The Steelers used to pretty much not tell you but wink wink nudge nudge tell you who drafted who because they’d have vids or statements up by almost exclusively THAT position coach on the player

IIRC (???) this goes back to at least Cowher and possibly (????) Noll. I remember having the feeling it was a longstanding tradition within the Steelers


Something has changed since the Cowher years.

In the early 90's this team would draft a player and let him cut his teeth on ST's for a year or 2. Then once they've done well in that arena, they were given playing opportunities. This was an outstanding philosophy to develop role players to support the stars.

Recently, there are no Orpheus Royes, Lee Flowers, Jerry Osalvskis, Myron Bell, Fred McAfees. The only person I can think of from the Tomlin years was Isaac Redman who played a larger supporting role.

This goes back to my general mantra that this team cannot develop players, period. It's a major fucking problem of why they can't get over the mediocre to pretty good hump.
This is well said.

Player development has been non-existent under Tomlin.

He really is lacking as a football coach.
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Post by PennyBacker » Sat May 03, 2025 4:24 pm

CoolShades wrote:
Fri May 02, 2025 2:13 am
Deebo wrote:
Thu May 01, 2025 7:10 pm
SteelerDayTrader wrote:
Thu May 01, 2025 3:32 pm
It’s been in print and stated many times over the years that the Steelers position coaches and particularly the STs coach have ALOT of say in who gets drafted in later rounds. The Steelers used to pretty much not tell you but wink wink nudge nudge tell you who drafted who because they’d have vids or statements up by almost exclusively THAT position coach on the player

IIRC (???) this goes back to at least Cowher and possibly (????) Noll. I remember having the feeling it was a longstanding tradition within the Steelers


Something has changed since the Cowher years.

In the early 90's this team would draft a player and let him cut his teeth on ST's for a year or 2. Then once they've done well in that arena, they were given playing opportunities. This was an outstanding philosophy to develop role players to support the stars.

Recently, there are no Orpheus Royes, Lee Flowers, Jerry Osalvskis, Myron Bell, Fred McAfees. The only person I can think of from the Tomlin years was Isaac Redman who played a larger supporting role.

This goes back to my general mantra that this team cannot develop players, period. It's a major fucking problem of why they can't get over the mediocre to pretty good hump.
This is well said.

Player development has been non-existent under Tomlin.

He really is lacking as a football coach.
There was a reason Cowher’s regime went to 5 AFCCGs. They had a lot of good teams.

There is also no reason to pretend that there was no tears during those years.

There was one element that those starting lineups / drafts severely lacked during those times – speed.

Especially in the secondary. Chad Scott, Mike Logan, Lee Flowers, Brent Alexander, Hank Poteet. These players were not fast.

Even a long term answer like DeShea Townsend was not known for his speed.

When the team finally made a high profile play for a speed guy in the ’06 draft, his name was pronounced wrong at the press conference – San Antonio Holmes.

Those teams excelled in developing blunt force athletes, but the exiting element of speed was not a prevailing priority.

What a shot of adrenaline UDFA Fast Willie Parker was in the ’05 starting lineup. As well as ’03 4th Rd pick Ike Taylor.

People talk an abundance of mess about Mike Tomlin, but one area that the drafts under his regimes have excelled at is brining in exciting athletes, particularly to the skill positions, regardless of outcome. Rashard Mendenhall, Limas Sweed, Mike Wallace, Manny Sanders, Antonio Brown, Markus Wheaton, Martavis Bryant, Sammie Coates, James Washington, Chase Claypool, Pat Freiermuth, George Pickens, Calvin Austin III, Roman Wilson. All exciting athletes.

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Post by 955876 » Sun May 04, 2025 5:05 pm

All exciting athletes.
That couldn't play football.

Jibbs drafts athletes and then tells them to figure it out.

Most don't and didn't.

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Post by tbsteel » Sun May 04, 2025 5:07 pm

This pick sucks. We were due for a dud of a fourth rounder I suppose. Career backup at best, barely playable at worst.
*reserves the right to roots for losses*

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Post by jebrick » Mon May 05, 2025 12:19 pm

bradshaw2ben wrote:
Thu May 01, 2025 1:13 pm
CoolShades wrote:
Thu May 01, 2025 10:46 am
bradshaw2ben wrote:
Sat Apr 26, 2025 5:18 pm

It's said that the Steelers rely heavily on ther coordinators in round 2 and 3


Said by who? Is this rumor or fact?

If this is fact, I’m amazed. I can see these guys having some input, but there is no way If I am Colbert and now Khan/Weidl, I’m allowing any of the average minds who have occupied the OC/DC spots on the Steelers over the last decade plus having major input on draft picks.

I hope someday the truth comes out about the Steelers draft room during the Tomlin years. Story I heard was that Tomlin had ultimate control and the reason Colbert “retired” was because he lost the power struggle with Tomlin. Over the last couple of years, it looks like Khan/Weidl have taken some of the control back, which would be a great thing.
It's funny, AI is convinced (see screengrab) but I can't find the source of that. I'm sure that I have heard/read that multiple times... and if you look at their drafts it does make sense. For example, Sawyer is the kind of prospect that scouts are lukewarm on and that coaches love. Kaleb Johnson fits what the HC & OC want to do, which is have a high-volume rushing attack with a high-volume/bell-cow runner.

The Weidl side of things might have favored more high-end athletes, as they have in round 1 and day 3.
Because AI crawls fan boards and we(and others) have said such things. There is no article out there saying this, we have infered it from years of data and some after draft interviews.

Tomlin gambles on athletes more than Cowher did. For each Shazier and Timmons you get some Devion Bush and Bud Dupree and Ziggy Hood. Jarvis Jones, KP and Najee smell like Colbert picks.
When you see the writing on the wall, you are in the toilet. -- Fred Sanford

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