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Since 2020, Tomlin 0-7-1 Against Rookie Coaches

Posted: Tue Sep 02, 2025 4:48 am
by LakecrestSteeler
Interesting stat to start Jets week! Listed as a fatal flaw. He has a bunch as of late, not just this one.

https://www.yardbarker.com/nfl/articles ... 1_42666862

Re: Since 2020, Tomlin 0-7-1 Against Rookie Coaches

Posted: Tue Sep 02, 2025 4:56 am
by CKSteeler
I think this has more to do with the times having passed him by and a lot of these coaches were (just guessing) offensive minds. Tomlin is also kind of lazy. He does what he does. He watches the previous four games of film and calls it a day (going based on his own comments on the subject).

Re: Since 2020, Tomlin 0-7-1 Against Rookie Coaches

Posted: Tue Sep 02, 2025 10:37 am
by LakecrestSteeler
CKSteeler wrote:
Tue Sep 02, 2025 4:56 am
I think this has more to do with the times having passed him by and a lot of these coaches were (just guessing) offensive minds. Tomlin is also kind of lazy. He does what he does. He watches the previous four games of film and calls it a day (going based on his own comments on the subject).
And the drafts and/or development of drafts start getting really very bad to middling, 2025 excluded while waiting for bouquet to develop.

Year
No. Round Pick Player Name Position College

2025
1 1 21 21 Derrick Harmon DT Oregon
2 3 19 83 Kaleb Johnson RB Iowa
3 4 21 123 Jack Sawyer DE Ohio State
4 5 26 164 Yahya Black DT Iowa
5 6 9 185 Will Howard QB Ohio State
6 7 10 226 Carson Bruener LB Washington
7 7 13 229 Donte Kent DB Central Michigan
2024
1 1 20 20 Troy Fautanu G Washington
2 2 19 51 Zach Frazier C West Virginia
3 3 20 84 Roman Wilson WR Michigan
4 3 34 98 Payton Wilson LB North Carolina State
5 4 19 119 Mason McCormick G South Dakota State
6 6 2 178 Logan Lee DT Iowa
7 6 19 195 Ryan Watts DB Texas
2023
1 1 14 14 Broderick Jones T Georgia
2 2 1 32 Joey Porter DB Penn State
3 2 18 49 Keeanu Benton DT Wisconsin
4 3 30 93 Darnell Washington TE Georgia
5 4 30 132 Nick Herbig LB Wisconsin
6 7 24 241 Cory Trice DB Purdue
7 7 34 251 Spencer Anderson T Maryland
2022
1 1 20 20 Kenny Pickett QB Pittsburgh
2 2 20 52 George Pickens WR Georgia
3 3 20 84 DeMarvin Leal DT Texas A&M
4 4 33 138 Calvin Austin WR Memphis
5 6 29 208 Connor Heyward RB Michigan State
6 7 4 225 Mark Robinson LB Mississippi
7 7 20 241 Chris Oladokun QB South Dakota State
2021
1 1 24 24 Najee Harris RB Alabama
2 2 23 55 Pat Freiermuth TE Penn State
3 3 23 87 Kendrick Green G Illinois
4 4 23 128 Dan Moore T Texas A&M
5 4 35 140 Buddy Johnson LB Texas A&M
6 5 12 156 Isaiahh Loudermilk DE Wisconsin
7 6 32 216 Quincy Roche DE Miami (FL)
8 7 18 245 Tre Norwood DB Oklahoma
9 7 27 254 Pressley Harvin P Georgia Tech
2020
1 2 17 49 Chase Claypool WR Notre Dame
2 3 38 102 Alex Highsmith DE Charlotte
3 4 18 124 Anthony McFarland RB Maryland
4 4 29 135 Kevin Dotson G Louisiana-Lafayette
5 6 19 198 Antoine Brooks DB Maryland
6 7 18 232 Carlos Davis DT Nebraska
2019
1 1 10 10 Devin Bush LB Michigan
2 3 2 66 Diontae Johnson WR Toledo
3 3 19 83 Justin Layne DB Michigan State
4 4 20 122 Benny Snell RB Kentucky
5 5 3 141 Zach Gentry TE Michigan
6 6 2 175 Sutton Smith LB Northern Illinois

Re: Since 2020, Tomlin 0-7-1 Against Rookie Coaches

Posted: Tue Sep 02, 2025 10:55 am
by Steeldrama
Yikes Colbert

The Pickett and Devin Bush drafts alone would’ve sank your average ship

NHALS is Tomlins superpower

Re: Since 2020, Tomlin 0-7-1 Against Rookie Coaches

Posted: Tue Sep 02, 2025 2:08 pm
by .Kodiak
CKSteeler wrote:
Tue Sep 02, 2025 4:56 am
I think this has more to do with the times having passed him by and a lot of these coaches were (just guessing) offensive minds. Tomlin is also kind of lazy. He does what he does. He watches the previous four games of film and calls it a day (going based on his own comments on the subject).
They're also hungry and have limited time to build a championship caliber team. They approach every game like most other coaches not-named Tomlin approach the playoffs.

Tomlin may have some new defensive wrinkles this year, but you pretty much know what to expect on offense. And, in either case, you know he's going to give you the first quarter or two to take free shots while PIT "eases in" and "probes".

Re: Since 2020, Tomlin 0-7-1 Against Rookie Coaches

Posted: Tue Sep 02, 2025 4:49 pm
by CKSteeler
A new wrinkle on defense that will be figured out by week 8 and then he'll never adapt after that as offenses begin to carve his unit up.

Re: Since 2020, Tomlin 0-7-1 Against Rookie Coaches

Posted: Tue Sep 02, 2025 6:29 pm
by shellwagnerblount
CKSteeler wrote:
Tue Sep 02, 2025 4:49 pm
A new wrinkle on defense that will be figured out by week 8 and then he'll never adapt after that as offenses begin to carve his unit up.
Sad how true that is...

Re: Since 2020, Tomlin 0-7-1 Against Rookie Coaches

Posted: Tue Sep 02, 2025 6:41 pm
by 955876
I don’t measure Jibbs against metrics such as this. Just happy as hell he is our coach.

Who else could we possibly get to replace him?

Re: Since 2020, Tomlin 0-7-1 Against Rookie Coaches

Posted: Tue Sep 02, 2025 7:57 pm
by Texas Black & Gold
I wonder what his record is on season openers?
My memory is fading and I tend to forget the negatives. But I think he is pretty good on opening days.
I do recall a couple of seasons he dug a hole and they were constantly trying to get to 500 to eventually get to NHALS.
And a couple of seasons he was gang busters only to fade in the end. :cry:
This season seems different.
Most of the starters didn't get to play in preseason. And I think the lack of preparation will come back to bite them. I don't think you can just flip a switch and expect to be in top form.
But maybe they have enough skills to win on the road this Sunday.
Here We Go Steelers

Re: Since 2020, Tomlin 0-7-1 Against Rookie Coaches

Posted: Tue Sep 02, 2025 8:09 pm
by anpsteel
Damn that is laughable... well I guess if you are a fan of a different team

What a fucking moroon

Re: Since 2020, Tomlin 0-7-1 Against Rookie Coaches

Posted: Tue Sep 02, 2025 8:32 pm
by Texas Black & Gold
I just looked it up. Tomlin is 10-6-1 on opening days.
:D :D :D

Here We Go Steelers

Re: Since 2020, Tomlin 0-7-1 Against Rookie Coaches

Posted: Tue Sep 02, 2025 9:56 pm
by Ice
Texas Black & Gold wrote:
Tue Sep 02, 2025 8:32 pm
I just looked it up. Tomlin is 10-6-1 on opening days.
:D :D :D

Here We Go Steelers
If he can hang around for 4 more straight opening day losses, he can retire after with the perfect NHALS opening day record at 10-10-1.

Re: Since 2020, Tomlin 0-7-1 Against Rookie Coaches

Posted: Tue Sep 02, 2025 10:07 pm
by Texas Black & Gold
Ice wrote:
Tue Sep 02, 2025 9:56 pm
Texas Black & Gold wrote:
Tue Sep 02, 2025 8:32 pm
I just looked it up. Tomlin is 10-6-1 on opening days.
:D :D :D

Here We Go Steelers
If he can hang around for 4 more straight opening day losses, he can retire after with the perfect NHALS opening day record at 10-10-1.
He already has NHALS. Why not retire at 14-6-1?
That is more than NHALS. :lol:

Re: Since 2020, Tomlin 0-7-1 Against Rookie Coaches

Posted: Tue Sep 02, 2025 10:12 pm
by bradshaw2ben
shellwagnerblount wrote:
Tue Sep 02, 2025 6:29 pm
CKSteeler wrote:
Tue Sep 02, 2025 4:49 pm
A new wrinkle on defense that will be figured out by week 8 and then he'll never adapt after that as offenses begin to carve his unit up.
Sad how true that is...
I think the defense mainly gets worn down by having to be perfect all year to keep them in games. Also, they barely rotate in depth. Put that all together and... WYSIWYG.

Re: Since 2020, Tomlin 0-7-1 Against Rookie Coaches

Posted: Wed Sep 03, 2025 1:12 am
by steelmann58
Tomlin shelf life here is over

Re: Since 2020, Tomlin 0-7-1 Against Rookie Coaches

Posted: Wed Sep 03, 2025 3:00 am
by CoolShades
steelmann58 wrote:
Wed Sep 03, 2025 1:12 am
Tomlin shelf life here is over
Long over.

I used to have this list in a file... I stopped keeping track of it when he had 5 or 6 losses in a row. I am not surprised the streak is still alive, but I’m amazed that Teflon Tomlin still has such a stellar reputation.

Everywhere you look, you find evidence of his mediocrity.



I can’t remember the last rookie HC he beat.