O-Line Over-Reaction Thread?

[LakecrestSteeler]

Who are the O-Line experts here on the board?

I saw a bunch of post on Jones sucking. Every time I watch him he seems to be fine.

The bull rush sack, I thought was text book on what you want your left tackle to do.

The other sack where he was burned on the stunt through the left O guard, I thought was more Isaac’s fault for not checking before committing to theNG double team.

I was was late for the game and started watching on the first scoring drive. Not sure if that was the opening Steelers drive or not.

Then the sack where everyone was bitching about Gainwell missing the block, Jones drove the edge rusher into his grave like a bitch.

Please post some examples and snapshots of the problems. It just always feels more like a unit problem and a O guard problem to me, but I am no expert, and hate watching the line during the game. I just follow Rodgers now. And will probably look for Metcalf and Rodgers now the rest of the season!

[Jizz Mop]

You didn’t see him getting beat off the snap in less than a second?

[K_C_]

They looked like shit on defense but what you saw from Fields is exactly why I was so excited when the Steelers signed him dirt cheap.

I knew that if the game slowed down for him, Fields could be a star.

Besides Lamar, absolutely no one is as dangerous with his legs as Fields. Nobody. Only Josh Allen is close.

If Fields ever completely figures out the passing part (and it sure looks like he's improving) then holy shit.

I knew today would be tough. Rodgers was like a fucking artist out there, behind a shit o-line.

It was like watching a maestro at work, behind very little protecting him.

But the Jets will be a second place team in that division and will make the playoffs.

[Steeldrama]

Broderick = BUST

Having the worst OL coach in the NFL did him no favors

Since there apparently are no competent backup tackles time to Larry Brown Darnell Washington

[K_C_]

Broderick = BUST

Having the worst OL coach in the NFL did him no favors

Since there apparently are no competent backup tackles time to Larry Brown Darnell Washington

No targets for Outlier or Roman Wilson today.

[LakecrestSteeler]

They looked like shit on defense but what you saw from Fields is exactly why I was so excited when the Steelers signed him dirt cheap.

I knew that if the game slowed down for him, Fields could be a star.

Besides Lamar, absolutely no one is as dangerous with his legs as Fields. Nobody. Only Josh Allen is close.

If Fields ever completely figures out the passing part (and it sure looks like he's improving) then holy shit.

I knew today would be tough. Rodgers was like a fucking artist out there, behind a shit o-line.

It was like watching a maestro at work, behind very little protecting him.

But the Jets will be a second place team in that division and will make the playoffs.

You are posting in the wrong thread twice I assume. I hate when that happens.

[K_C_]

They looked like shit on defense but what you saw from Fields is exactly why I was so excited when the Steelers signed him dirt cheap.

I knew that if the game slowed down for him, Fields could be a star.

Besides Lamar, absolutely no one is as dangerous with his legs as Fields. Nobody. Only Josh Allen is close.

If Fields ever completely figures out the passing part (and it sure looks like he's improving) then holy shit.

I knew today would be tough. Rodgers was like a fucking artist out there, behind a shit o-line.

It was like watching a maestro at work, behind very little protecting him.

But the Jets will be a second place team in that division and will make the playoffs.

You are posting in the wrong thread twice I assume. I hate when that happens.

Dude I was so baked during that game I was in the huddle with Rodgers, Warren, Broderick, etc. I might have even high-fived Calvin Austin III.

I’m surprised I posted in the correct message board.

[955876]

The bull rush sack, I thought was text book on what you want your left tackle to do.

Riiiiiight.

The only time you can use the term “text book” and Broderick Jones in the same sentence is when highlighting what NOT to do.

[franco32]

Jones allowed 3 sacks and countless pressures. On the play when he was on skates, he once agains screwed up his hand usage and allowed the defender to get into his chest and drive him back.

He blew run blocking most of the day as well. It's hard to put into words how bad Broderick is right now.

The FO and coaches are guilty of gross negligence in not having a plan to deal with this bust this year.

[955876]

The FO and coaches are guilty of gross negligence in not having a plan to deal with this bust this year.

Part of Jibba Jabber’s “plan” is actually not having one. That way he always has built in excuses to gaslight his dipshit owner.

If only our LT played better. We’ll work on it and be better next year sir.

[alancac98]

Boy, wouldn't it be nice if our online knew how to put their hand in the dirt and get after it. You have no "fire off " if you're standing up in pass protect.

[steelmann58]

the OL and DL in the run Game today was a disaster. Meyer rally needs to go as this line is not doing it job.
The run defense is a total joke especially Loudermilk

[Steelafan77]

Jones has some serious issues hopefully he’ll resolve.

Fautanu is essentially a rookie player who is starting in a new position. May take many more reps…

Seumalo is a bum. Dude needs replaced by next draft. If not sooner. LG huge need…

[steelclan]

TF struggled at start of the game then settled in and got better. Jones was pretty much a turnstile. Though one of the 3 sacks he gave up was not on him. On one of the sacks he had his man blocked, Rodgers stepped up in the pocket and right into a sack. Not much Jones can do about that.

[RealSwiss]

They looked like shit on defense but what you saw from Fields is exactly why I was so excited when the Steelers signed him dirt cheap.

I knew that if the game slowed down for him, Fields could be a star.

Besides Lamar, absolutely no one is as dangerous with his legs as Fields. Nobody. Only Josh Allen is close.

If Fields ever completely figures out the passing part (and it sure looks like he's improving) then holy shit.

Would a season with Rodgers wisdom have elevated Fields? I guess we'll never know.

[jebrick]

The bull rush sack, I thought was text book on what you want your left tackle to do.

Riiiiiight.

The only time you can use the term “text book” and Broderick Jones in the same sentence is when highlighting what NOT to do.

You mean when a defender charges into your chest you just ride him back to the QB? Garrett is going to kill ARod.

[franco32]

The problem with the argument that Jones will just have to resolve or clean-up his technique is that we are now in year 3. If you haven't cleaned it up by now, then you aren't going to. He's either lazy or dumb. I know Pat Meyers sucks, but none of the other lineman have his technique issues (he's still lunging and not using his hands). I don't think he's ever going to learn.

[Deebo]

The FO and coaches are guilty of gross negligence in not having a plan to deal with this bust this year.

Part of Jibba Jabber’s “plan” is actually not having one. That way he always has built in excuses to gaslight his dipshit owner.

If only our LT played better. We’ll work on it and be better next year sir.

They should move Jones to LG to replace Semu.

[LakecrestSteeler]

The problem with the argument that Jones will just have to resolve or clean-up his technique is that we are now in year 3. If you haven't cleaned it up by now, then you aren't going to. He's either lazy or dumb. I know Pat Meyers sucks, but none of the other lineman have his technique issues (he's still lunging and not using his hands). I don't think he's ever going to learn.

Trai Essex has SERIOUS concerns, but gives him a grace period because of the switch.

https://steelersdepot.com/2025/09/forme ... him-grace/

It’s his first start at LT. You want to give the kid some grace. And I will. But there are some SERIOUS issues with 77’s technique and general football smarts that should not be made at this point in his career. I am concerned. Hopefully time and reps will improve these…

— Trai Essex (@TraiDay79) September 7, 2025

Jets apparently have one of the best D-lines in the NFL this year, at least on paper. We will see if it shakes out that way. 3 years with a major position change in his resume is not that long in the NFL...he probably will not be All-Pro at this point though...I still see him mull people periodically though. And as you say don't let him get into your chest on bull rushes, but if it happens, ride the guy backwards as slowly as possible acting like a big shock absorber is probably the best outcome...no penalty, no TKO of your QB.

No offensive line penalties the whole game...they can't have played that poorly. I think back to the KC game when Harrison just destroyed that whole games...sacks and penalties left and right, even more could have been called. That was an awful blind side left OT game!

I still say any team that is not utilizing RBs, TEs, and OGs, to chip all-pro edge rushers for meaty downs is a foolish philosophy.

The funny thing is, did the offense improve? 34-32 says they scored more points than usual for MT offense, but when you look at the statistics for moving the touchback rule to the 35, being in the mid-ish 30's is probably a result of that more than anything.

Starting at the 35, means teams will score on average 53% of the time is what I read...20%-ish for TDs, and 30%-ish for FGs, but combined it was 53%-ish. Saw that in AI summary, but also read it in an article for the NFL, which hopefully wasn't a recursive loop back to Chat GPT.

On to the Seahags!

[langer]

It’s his first start at LT. You want to give the kid some grace.

Hold on, I thought this was his NATURAL POSITION and that by moving there he would be more comfortable and be able to show his greatness.

What a bunch of bullshit. He was standing around watching Rodgers get mauled.

He should be benched. How many games will it take for him to learn how to play at his NATURAL POSITION? 16?

Burrows got his ass totally kicked yesterday. Garrett will have something to say. Rodgers too when he has 350lb guys jumping up and squashing him like Siragusa did to Rich Gannon.

[jebrick]

I just wached a clip of all of Jone's snaps. Excatly what we saw in preseason. Good vs outside shoulder rush. Gets burnt on inside moves. Lets defenders into his chest too fast and then they forklift him.

He is not going to stonewall anyone. smart rushrs are going inside or straight bullrush. His strength is more of an issue than anything else.

[955876]

They looked like shit on defense but what you saw from Fields is exactly why I was so excited when the Steelers signed him dirt cheap.

I knew that if the game slowed down for him, Fields could be a star.

Besides Lamar, absolutely no one is as dangerous with his legs as Fields. Nobody. Only Josh Allen is close.

If Fields ever completely figures out the passing part (and it sure looks like he's improving) then holy shit.

Would a season with Rodgers wisdom have elevated Fields? I guess we'll never know.

The problem with Fields (and Lamar) is they need a coach with vision who’s going to surround them with the right OC, QB coach, and then deploy a scheme that helps them succeed vs being geared toward limiting them.

That isn’t Mike Tomlin. He (and his staff) are incapable of developing shit.

That’s why this team has been bringing in aging vets that already know the game.

It’s why I want Jibba Jabber nowhere near our next franchise QB.

He can’t spot them nor develop them.

[Steelafan77]

I just wached a clip of all of Jone's snaps. Excatly what we saw in preseason. Good vs outside shoulder rush. Gets burnt on inside moves. Lets defenders into his chest too fast and then they forklift him.

He is not going to stonewall anyone. smart rushrs are going inside or straight bullrush. His strength is more of an issue than anything else.

Can some of that fall on mediocre [at best] LG play? Left side of the OLine is a mess IMHO.

Even if it is too inconsistent to tell [this soon] for sure LT AND LG have to be priority next draft, right?

[bradshaw2ben]

They looked like shit on defense but what you saw from Fields is exactly why I was so excited when the Steelers signed him dirt cheap.

I knew that if the game slowed down for him, Fields could be a star.

Besides Lamar, absolutely no one is as dangerous with his legs as Fields. Nobody. Only Josh Allen is close.

If Fields ever completely figures out the passing part (and it sure looks like he's improving) then holy shit.

I knew today would be tough. Rodgers was like a fucking artist out there, behind a shit o-line.

It was like watching a maestro at work, behind very little protecting him.

But the Jets will be a second place team in that division and will make the playoffs.

the Jets OC did a fantastic job yesterday.

[K_C_]

They looked like shit on defense but what you saw from Fields is exactly why I was so excited when the Steelers signed him dirt cheap.

I knew that if the game slowed down for him, Fields could be a star.

Besides Lamar, absolutely no one is as dangerous with his legs as Fields. Nobody. Only Josh Allen is close.

If Fields ever completely figures out the passing part (and it sure looks like he's improving) then holy shit.

I knew today would be tough. Rodgers was like a fucking artist out there, behind a shit o-line.

It was like watching a maestro at work, behind very little protecting him.

But the Jets will be a second place team in that division and will make the playoffs.

the Jets OC did a fantastic job yesterday.

The OC did a great job but Fields kept his eyes downfield even when running and made some great fucking throws. That might be Fields’ cleanest and best game as a pro. Dude is still only 26 and that’s why I hated (but understood) sitting Fields in favor of Russ last year.

Fields’ upside is through the roof if he ever figures out the passing game because God knows he can make every throw and by the looks of yesterday, Fields might be figuring things out. If he is, as great as Rodgers is, we’re gonna regret not re-signing Fields.

He was incredible yesterday.

[955876]

I just wached a clip of all of Jone's snaps. Excatly what we saw in preseason. Good vs outside shoulder rush. Gets burnt on inside moves. Lets defenders into his chest too fast and then they forklift him.

He is not going to stonewall anyone. smart rushrs are going inside or straight bullrush. His strength is more of an issue than anything else.

He’s weak as fuck. So weak that even pussies like Devin “Casper” Bush or Jervis “Barnaby” Jones might be able to put him on his ass with a bull rush.

I knew as soon as those articles came out this summer that Jones was dropping weight to help with his mobility that he was going to het his ass bulldozed.

This year’s offseason news will be bout a Jones bulking up to better withstand the bull rush.

This cockroach isn’t going anywhere for a while.

[955876]

I just wached a clip of all of Jone's snaps. Excatly what we saw in preseason. Good vs outside shoulder rush. Gets burnt on inside moves. Lets defenders into his chest too fast and then they forklift him.

He is not going to stonewall anyone. smart rushrs are going inside or straight bullrush. His strength is more of an issue than anything else.

Can some of that fall on mediocre [at best] LG play? Left side of the OLine is a mess IMHO.

Even if it is too inconsistent to tell [this soon] for sure LT AND LG have to be priority next draft, right?

I think that (as per usual) this staff has miscast yet another player.

Troy Fautanu should be our LG. He was great on the left side in college but has some length issues (IMO) to be a great OT in the pros.

Put him at LG and he’ll give you a decade of great play.

Barring injury of course.

[jebrick]

I just wached a clip of all of Jone's snaps. Excatly what we saw in preseason. Good vs outside shoulder rush. Gets burnt on inside moves. Lets defenders into his chest too fast and then they forklift him.

He is not going to stonewall anyone. smart rushrs are going inside or straight bullrush. His strength is more of an issue than anything else.

Can some of that fall on mediocre [at best] LG play? Left side of the OLine is a mess IMHO.

Even if it is too inconsistent to tell [this soon] for sure LT AND LG have to be priority next draft, right?

Not that I saw. Maybe once but Jones was on an island a lot.

[CKSteeler]

Fautanu deserves a chance at tackle. Most tackles in the league aren't actually going to fit prototype of 6'5 with 34 inch arms. You can pick out a lot of the best offenses and the league and look at their tackles and find guys who don't fit that mold.

If anything, I'd trust Fautanu at LT before Jones and feel he's been pigeon holed into that RT spot.

[955876]

And I’m not saying he can’t be a good OT. I just think his best position ultimately would be LG.

I trust Jibbs and Meyer less than zero.