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A.I. pissed at Nick Herbig's usage.

Posted: Mon Oct 20, 2025 7:10 pm
by Stosh-67
https://www.google.com/search?q=pittsbu ... s-wiz-serp

No no, not the great Allen Iverson.
Now really smart thinking computers are turning on Tomlin and his coaching decisions.
AI Overview

Nick Herbig Drawing Comparisons to Pittsburgh Steelers Legend
The Pittsburgh Steelers face criticism for reducing Nick Herbig's playing time in the loss to the Cincinnati Bengals, particularly after he had become a dominant pass rusher. Critics argue this decision was baffling because Herbig had performed exceptionally well, earning more snaps, and it contradicted a defensive coordinator's prior statements about rewarding players who perform well. The criticism stems from Herbig playing significantly fewer snaps (29) compared to his usual role and compared to Alex Highsmith, who returned from injury.
You can watch this video to learn more about Nick Herbig's performance:

Reduced Snap Count: In the loss to the Bengals, Herbig played only 29 defensive snaps (40% of the team's total).
Contradiction of Previous Statements: This came despite defensive coordinator Teryl Austin saying Herbig "earned the right to be on the field as much as we can get him on the field" and that "Guys that play well get rewarded by playing more".
Comparison to Highsmith: Herbig played significantly fewer snaps than Alex Highsmith (53), even though Highsmith was returning from an ankle injury and Herbig had been playing at a high level.
Praise for Herbig's Performance: Herbig has been highly productive, especially as a pass rusher, with a high pressure rate and multiple sacks in the games leading up to the Bengals loss.

Steelers Facing Criticism for Odd Decision in Bengals Loss

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There really wasn’t a single great individual performance from the Pittsburgh Steelers defense against the Cincinnati Bengals on Thursday. But in edge rusher Nick Herbig’s case, it may have been due to the lack of opportunity.

Herbig played 29 defensive snaps for the Steelers versus their division rival in Week 7. That was 38% of the team’s snaps on defense in the matchup.

Steelers Depot’s Joe Clark argued that was far too low.


“I can understand some of the reasoning. It’s a short week. Herbig had played a lot on Sunday, and the team might not want to wear him down too early,” Clark wrote. “The Steelers got off to a bad start against the run, and Alex Highsmith has been a better run defender. But I just don’t really get the justification for having him player 26 fewer snaps than Highsmith.

“For one, Highsmith is coming off an ankle injury, which he returned from in Week 6. Highsmith probably could’ve used the rest more than the younger and healthier Herbig, and Herbig has just been so dynamic as a pass rusher this year that he needs to be playing more.”


Herbig has 4.5 sacks, six tackles for loss and 13 quarterback hits this season. He’s leads the Steelers in all three categories, and unlike All-Pros defenders T.J. Watt and Cameron Heyward, Herbig missed a game in September.

Steelers Pass Rush Struggles Against Bengals
The Steelers recorded two sacks versus Cincinnati in Week 7. However, quarterback Joe Flacco was far too comfortable for most of the night and tore apart the Pittsburgh secondary.

Flacco delivered a lot of short, quick passes. But the Steelers were also unable to generate much pressure when they had opportunities.

Watt, Heyward and Alex Highsmith all played at least 70% of the team’s defensive snaps in the contest. Yet, they combined for just one sack and two quarterback hits.

Highsmith recorded three tackles and no other statistics.

In limited playing time, Herbig posted two tackles and one quarterback hit.

The Steelers appeared to try a lot of different coverages to try and slow down the Bengals elite receivers Thursday. But the team made few adjustments to their defensive front during the game. That resulted in Herbig not getting a lot of playing time.

That was surprising given that he came into the game with a sack in three straight contests. Just four days prior, Herbig had two sacks and four quarterback hits in Week 6.

How Do Steelers Get Nick Herbig More Playing Time?
As head coach Mike Tomlin has said, needing to find more playing time for Herbig is a “good problem to have.” However, it’s still a problem nonetheless.

It’s an issue that Clark argued the Steelers are still trying to figure out.

“The Steelers had Herbig on the field with Highsmith and Watt in their Bronco package four times on Thursday, per Alex Kozora’s charting,” Clark wrote. “Two of those plays led to incompletions, while two of them led to gains of 10+ yards through the air.

“But the Steelers went away from it for a large part of the game, and it’s something I’d like to see them experiment with more.”

If the Steelers aren’t going to deploy the three edge rushers together, then the team will have to take away playing time from someone else to get Herbig on the field.

That’s not ideal because Watt and Highsmith are elite edge rushers. But Herbig has arguably been Pittsburgh’s most impactful defender through seven weeks. He needs to be on the field, especially if Watt and Highsmith go silent.

The Steelers should ride the hot hand at every defensive position. No one is playing better for Pittsburgh’s defense than Herbig this season.

Re: A.I. pissed at Nick Herbig's usage.

Posted: Mon Oct 20, 2025 7:17 pm
by Stosh-67
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s5rJR3RZW3I

Alot of communication and what looks like directing team mates in this video

Re: A.I. pissed at Nick Herbig's usage.

Posted: Mon Oct 20, 2025 7:24 pm
by Stosh-67
In only 5 games and only 2 starts,
Herbig leads the Steelers in sacks, QB hits and tackles for loss.
I do not see the stats, but would assume he leads the team in pressures as well.

92 less snaps than TJ
90 more snaps than Highsmith

Defensive snaps after 6 games.
.

Patrick Queen LB 432 98.86%
Jalen Ramsey CB 397 90.85%
Darius Slay CB 368 84.21%
T.J. Watt LB 349 79.86%
Payton Wilson LB 300 68.65%
Cameron Heyward DT 298 68.19%
Juan Thornhill S 289 66.13%
Keeanu Benton DL 283 64.76%
Nick Herbig LB 257 58.81%
DeShon Elliott S 253 57.89%
Chuck Clark DB 222 50.80%
Brandin Echols CB 212 48.51%
Joey Porter Jr. CB 192 43.94%
Alex Highsmith LB 167 38.22%
Derrick Harmon DT 161 36.84%
Yahya Black DE 0 141 32.27%
Cole Holcomb LB 130 29.75%
Jack Sawyer LB 100 22.88%

Re: A.I. pissed at Nick Herbig's usage.

Posted: Mon Oct 20, 2025 7:44 pm
by Stosh-67
And since I am a Sixers fan.

And this fake A.I. has diminished the real meaning of A.I.
My all time team as a fan.

Mo Cheeks
Allen Iverson
Julius Erving
Charles Barkley
Moses Malone.

Tyrese Maxey
Andrew Toney
Andre Iguodala
Bobby Jones.
Joel Embid

Re: A.I. pissed at Nick Herbig's usage.

Posted: Mon Oct 20, 2025 7:55 pm
by gojira5150
Stosh-67 wrote:
Mon Oct 20, 2025 7:44 pm
And since I am a Sixers fan.

And this fake A.I. has diminished the real meaning of A.I.
My all time team as a fan.

Mo Cheeks
Allen Iverson
Julius Erving
Charles Barkley
Moses Malone.

Tyrese Maxey
Andrew Toney
Andre Iguodala
Bobby Jones.
Joel Embid
You know why 76ers went after Andrew Toney. He was called the Boston Strangler as he would just Merck Celtics when he played them. That's a damn good list

Re: A.I. pissed at Nick Herbig's usage.

Posted: Mon Oct 20, 2025 8:41 pm
by Stosh-67
gojira5150 wrote:
Mon Oct 20, 2025 7:55 pm
Stosh-67 wrote:
Mon Oct 20, 2025 7:44 pm
And since I am a Sixers fan.

And this fake A.I. has diminished the real meaning of A.I.
My all time team as a fan.

Mo Cheeks
Allen Iverson
Julius Erving
Charles Barkley
Moses Malone.

Tyrese Maxey
Andrew Toney
Andre Iguodala
Bobby Jones.
Joel Embid
You know why 76ers went after Andrew Toney. He was called the Boston Strangler as he would just Merck Celtics when he played them. That's a damn good list
aka Android the Scoring Machine....mostly shooting inside the arc before the 3 point shot gone wild.
probably avg. less than 1 a game in his career.
too bad he had chronic feet issues.

Re: A.I. pissed at Nick Herbig's usage.

Posted: Mon Oct 20, 2025 10:10 pm
by swissvale72
Gotta wonder about Herbig's snap count. Also, Roman Wilson is emerging as the clear #2 wide in CA III's absence, having played about 60% of the snaps. Only other oddity, maybe, was Holcomb at about 55% of snaps compared to Peyton Wilson's 44.

Re: A.I. pissed at Nick Herbig's usage.

Posted: Mon Oct 20, 2025 10:14 pm
by gojira5150
Stosh-67 wrote:
Mon Oct 20, 2025 8:41 pm
gojira5150 wrote:
Mon Oct 20, 2025 7:55 pm
Stosh-67 wrote:
Mon Oct 20, 2025 7:44 pm
And since I am a Sixers fan.

And this fake A.I. has diminished the real meaning of A.I.
My all time team as a fan.

Mo Cheeks
Allen Iverson
Julius Erving
Charles Barkley
Moses Malone.

Tyrese Maxey
Andrew Toney
Andre Iguodala
Bobby Jones.
Joel Embid
You know why 76ers went after Andrew Toney. He was called the Boston Strangler as he would just Merck Celtics when he played them. That's a damn good list
aka Android the Scoring Machine....mostly shooting inside the arc before the 3 point shot gone wild.
probably avg. less than 1 a game in his career.
too bad he had chronic feet issues.
He could ball. That '83 team was amazing. As a Lakers fan I was glad Dr J got a ring. He was my fav player. I have all Steelers, Lakers& Dodgers jerseys. The only 2 other jerseys I have is a Dr J Blue & Red. Out here the running joke was whenever Kareem played against Moses, he always had "Migraine" He hated going against Moses Fo Fo Fo.
Bobby Jones doesn't get enough credit. He could actually guard Frankenstein McHale. Bobby always guarded the best Forwards. His D was incredible. He could fill the lane on fastbreak for dunks.
What do you think about Dawkins and Caldwell Jones. Magic worked all of them in Game 6 as a rookie.

The best BBALL poster was Iceman sitting on that ice throne palming 2 ice balls.
Edit: I added too many pics. 1st time doing this.

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Re: A.I. pissed at Nick Herbig's usage.

Posted: Tue Oct 21, 2025 1:12 am
by Stosh-67
Dead on with Bobby Jones .
And he constantly knocked down that shot from left and right corners of the foul line. He was in his 30s by the time the Sixers put it all together. Integral part of those teams.

Dawkins and Caldwell Jones good players but not the guys to get past Kareem and the Lakers.

Dawkins just could not stay out of foul trouble.
What a physical specimen. Right out of high school like Moses.
D.D. was like Darnell Washington....few inches taller.
He may have made pretty good DE.

The second they got Moses I knew they'd win it all.
Does not get attention as one of the Biggest steals of a trade in NBA history. What an unrelenting work horse.

Smooth as silk Gervin. Remember he and David Thompson battling out for scoring title last day of season late 70s.
Thompson scored 73... only for Gervin to put up 63 that nite to win title.

Julius. Bobby Jones. Moses. Gervin. Thompson...
I believe all started in the ABA....along with alot of other major talents. Gilmore. Dan issel. Rick Barry.
George McGinnis Connie Hawkins Spencer Heyward. The Sixers head coach Billy Cunningham

Re: A.I. pissed at Nick Herbig's usage.

Posted: Tue Oct 21, 2025 1:36 am
by Stosh-67
swissvale72 wrote:
Mon Oct 20, 2025 10:10 pm
Gotta wonder about Herbig's snap count. Also, Roman Wilson is emerging as the clear #2 wide in CA III's absence, having played about 60% of the snaps. Only other oddity, maybe, was Holcomb at about 55% of snaps compared to Peyton Wilson's 44.
Head scratcher.
With Flacco and Cincy WR weapons shreading the steelers... you would think they would get their faster LBs on the field to add speed.
Herbig faster than both AH and TJ.
Peyton faster than Holcomb.

After what Herbig has shown his first 2 years...
And now taking it to another gear in year 3...
It makes no sense.
With his next sack he will already match his career high. He had 14 QB hits in his first 2 years combined. He has 13 in just 5 games this year.

Can it be possible. Remotely possible... they don't want this kid exploding to a 15 sack 35 qb hit season heading towards C2? I would not put anything past this team....thinking about having to pay 3 OLBs big money.

Re: A.I. pissed at Nick Herbig's usage.

Posted: Tue Oct 21, 2025 2:35 am
by langer
Here's one, is herbig making TJ the Jogger look bad and someone's having a tantrum about it? Pulling a vet move on the young upstart?

This team is full of insane morons with no leadership, I could certainly see it.

Re: A.I. pissed at Nick Herbig's usage.

Posted: Tue Oct 21, 2025 11:15 am
by Obviously
Speaking of AI, here's what Copilot says when I ask if there's anyway the Steelers will fire Mike Tomlin:

Technically yes, but realistically it’s extremely unlikely. The Steelers have a deep-rooted culture of coaching stability, and Mike Tomlin’s job security remains among the strongest in the NFL.

Here’s why firing Tomlin is almost off the table:

🏈 Steelers' Coaching Philosophy
- Only three head coaches since 1969: Chuck Noll, Bill Cowher, and Mike Tomlin. That’s over 50 years of continuity.
- Organizational loyalty: The Rooney family, who owns the team, values long-term leadership and rarely reacts to short-term failures with drastic changes.

📊 Tomlin’s Track Record
- 18 straight non-losing seasons: No other coach has started their career with such consistency.
- Super Bowl XLIII champion and two total appearances.
- Seven division titles and 12 playoff appearances.

🔥 Fan Frustration vs. Reality
- After a recent loss to the Bengals, fans erupted on social media, calling for Tomlin’s firing.
- However, NFL analysts insist the Steelers “are never going to fire” him, citing the franchise’s culture and Tomlin’s overall success.

🧩 Could He Leave Voluntarily?
- While firing is unlikely, retirement or resignation is possible if Tomlin feels the team’s direction no longer aligns with his goals.
- But as of now, there’s no indication he’s considering stepping down.

So unless there’s a seismic shift in ownership philosophy or Tomlin himself chooses to walk away, he’s staying put. If you’re imagining alternate realities, maybe one where the Steelers go full soap opera and hire a fourth coach in 60 years—but that’s more fiction than forecast. Want to explore what that alternate Steelers universe might look like?

Even AI with the NHALS!

Re: A.I. pissed at Nick Herbig's usage.

Posted: Tue Oct 21, 2025 11:24 am
by Obviously
Taking it further

Me: Tomlin hasn't won a playoff game since Jan 2017. Also since they lost to the Packers in Super Bowl XLV, the only playoff wins were against teams with quarterbacks named Matt Moore, AJ McCarron and Alex Smith. That's pretty piss poor by Steelers standards.

Copilot: You're absolutely right to point out the playoff drought — and when you lay it out like that, it’s hard not to wince. Here's a breakdown of the post-Super Bowl XLV reality for Mike Tomlin and the Steelers:

📉 Playoff Performance Since 2010
- Last playoff win: January 2017 vs. Alex Smith’s Chiefs.
- Other wins: Matt Moore (Dolphins, 2016) and AJ McCarron (Bengals, 2015).
- Playoff record since Super Bowl XLV: 3–7.
- No playoff wins in the last 8 seasons, despite multiple appearances.

🧠 The Frustration Factor
- Steelers fans are used to championship-caliber football, not just scraping into the Wild Card.
- Tomlin’s regular-season consistency (never a losing season) is impressive, but postseason stagnation is a sore spot.
- Critics argue that the team has underperformed in big moments, especially against elite quarterbacks and playoff-caliber defenses.

🛡️ Why He’s Still Safe
Despite the playoff woes:
- Ownership trusts him: The Rooney family values stability and sees Tomlin as a culture-setter.
- No losing seasons: That stat still carries weight, even if it’s starting to feel hollow to some fans.
- Locker room respect: Players consistently praise his leadership and communication.

🧨 What Would It Take for a Firing?
- A complete collapse — like a 4–13 season with locker room turmoil — might force the issue.
- But even then, the Steelers would likely let him resign gracefully rather than fire him outright.

So yes, by Steelers standards, the playoff record is underwhelming. But unless the team bottoms out or ownership radically shifts its philosophy, Tomlin’s seat remains warm but not hot. If you’re imagining a world where the Steelers demand postseason excellence again, maybe it starts with a new quarterback, a fresh offensive scheme… or a bold move from the front office. Want to sketch out that alternate Steelers timeline?

Re: A.I. pissed at Nick Herbig's usage.

Posted: Tue Oct 21, 2025 11:27 am
by Obviously
And since I am a Celtics fan and hate the Lakers and Sixers, here you go:

The all-time Boston Celtics team is a who's who of basketball royalty, featuring legends from every era of the franchise’s storied history.

Here’s a breakdown of the most iconic Celtics to ever wear the green and white, based on historical impact, championships, and legacy:

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🏀 All-Time Boston Celtics Starting Five

| Position | Player | Era | Notable Achievements |
|----------|------------------|---------------|-----------------------|
| PG | Bob Cousy | 1950s–60s | 6× NBA champion, 13× All-Star, 1957 MVP |
| SG | John Havlicek| 1960s–70s | 8× NBA champion, 13× All-Star, Finals MVP 1974 |
| SF | Larry Bird | 1980s | 3× NBA champion, 3× MVP, 2× Finals MVP |
| PF | Kevin McHale | 1980s–90s | 3× NBA champion, 7× All-Star, 2× Sixth Man of the Year |
| C | Bill Russell | 1950s–60s | 11× NBA champion, 5× MVP, 12× All-Star |

---

🛡️ Bench and Honorable Mentions

- Paul Pierce – 2008 Finals MVP, 10× All-Star
- Dave Cowens – 2× NBA champion, 1973 MVP
- Jo Jo White – 2× NBA champion, 1976 Finals MVP
- Robert Parish – 4× NBA champion, NBA’s all-time leader in games played
- Kevin Garnett – 2008 NBA champion, 2008 DPOY
- Ray Allen – 2008 NBA champion, all-time great shooter
- Rajon Rondo – 2× NBA champion, 4× All-Star, elite playmaker
- Bill Sharman – 4× NBA champion, 8× All-Star
- Tom Heinsohn – 8× NBA champion as player, 2× as coach
- Jayson Tatum – Modern star, 2024 NBA champion, multiple All-Star selections

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🏆 Legacy and Culture

The Celtics’ legacy is defined by team-first basketball, defensive grit, and championship pedigree. From Red Auerbach’s dynasty-building in the 1950s and ’60s to the Big Three era of the 2000s and the resurgence led by Jayson Tatum today, Boston’s all-time roster reflects a franchise that has evolved while staying true to its roots.

The all-time Celtics crush anyone else and you know it.

Re: A.I. pissed at Nick Herbig's usage.

Posted: Tue Oct 21, 2025 4:05 pm
by gojira5150
Obviously wrote:
Tue Oct 21, 2025 11:27 am
And since I am a Celtics fan and hate the Lakers and Sixers, here you go:

The all-time Boston Celtics team is a who's who of basketball royalty, featuring legends from every era of the franchise’s storied history.

Here’s a breakdown of the most iconic Celtics to ever wear the green and white, based on historical impact, championships, and legacy:

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🏀 All-Time Boston Celtics Starting Five

| Position | Player | Era | Notable Achievements |
|----------|------------------|---------------|-----------------------|
| PG | Bob Cousy | 1950s–60s | 6× NBA champion, 13× All-Star, 1957 MVP |
| SG | John Havlicek| 1960s–70s | 8× NBA champion, 13× All-Star, Finals MVP 1974 |
| SF | Larry Bird | 1980s | 3× NBA champion, 3× MVP, 2× Finals MVP |
| PF | Kevin McHale | 1980s–90s | 3× NBA champion, 7× All-Star, 2× Sixth Man of the Year |
| C | Bill Russell | 1950s–60s | 11× NBA champion, 5× MVP, 12× All-Star |

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🛡️ Bench and Honorable Mentions

- Paul Pierce – 2008 Finals MVP, 10× All-Star
- Dave Cowens – 2× NBA champion, 1973 MVP
- Jo Jo White – 2× NBA champion, 1976 Finals MVP
- Robert Parish – 4× NBA champion, NBA’s all-time leader in games played
- Kevin Garnett – 2008 NBA champion, 2008 DPOY
- Ray Allen – 2008 NBA champion, all-time great shooter
- Rajon Rondo – 2× NBA champion, 4× All-Star, elite playmaker
- Bill Sharman – 4× NBA champion, 8× All-Star
- Tom Heinsohn – 8× NBA champion as player, 2× as coach
- Jayson Tatum – Modern star, 2024 NBA champion, multiple All-Star selections

---

🏆 Legacy and Culture

The Celtics’ legacy is defined by team-first basketball, defensive grit, and championship pedigree. From Red Auerbach’s dynasty-building in the 1950s and ’60s to the Big Three era of the 2000s and the resurgence led by Jayson Tatum today, Boston’s all-time roster reflects a franchise that has evolved while staying true to its roots.

The all-time Celtics crush anyone else and you know it.
Please there's No org that can compete with the Lakers all-time team

Magic
Kareem
Shaq
Kobe
Big game James

Elgin Baylor
The Logo Jerry West
Wilt
George Mikan
Lebron
AD
Michael Cooper
Paul Gasol
Byron Scott
Derek Fisher

Pat Riley
Phil Jackson

Nuff Said

Re: A.I. pissed at Nick Herbig's usage.

Posted: Tue Oct 21, 2025 7:12 pm
by Stosh-67
Magic
Kareem
Shaq
Kobe
Big game James.

Its your list....
But generally listing teams greatest would not put two centers.....pick one....lol.
Kareem would be the pick. Tho Shaq on the calendar may have also given Kareem the Mo-graine headachs.

I think Lakers top 5 would be...

Magic at the point forward - 9straight seasons of 10+ assists per game.... w/ 6 of those seasons 12+ per
Kobe - 3x 30+ pts per game seasons.......topping out at 35+ per in one season
Jerry West - 4x 30+ pts per game seasons
Baylor - 3x 34+ pts per game seasons.......topping out at 38+ per in one season. great rebounder too. ( absolutely insane numbers and career. )
Kareem - 4x 30+ pts per game b/f coming over from Bucks.....greatest scoring center of all time behind Wilt.

and I do not think you can top that 5?
4 dominate scorers......with a great ball handler and facilitator.

Re: A.I. pissed at Nick Herbig's usage.

Posted: Tue Oct 21, 2025 7:15 pm
by Stosh-67
https://www.youtube.com/shorts/MbCZoEQd78Q

Still claim the most sweetest, artistic, poetic dunk in the history of the game.

Re: A.I. pissed at Nick Herbig's usage.

Posted: Wed Oct 22, 2025 1:32 pm
by Obviously
gojira5150 wrote:
Tue Oct 21, 2025 4:05 pm
Obviously wrote:
Tue Oct 21, 2025 11:27 am
And since I am a Celtics fan and hate the Lakers and Sixers, here you go:

The all-time Boston Celtics team is a who's who of basketball royalty, featuring legends from every era of the franchise’s storied history.

Here’s a breakdown of the most iconic Celtics to ever wear the green and white, based on historical impact, championships, and legacy:

---

🏀 All-Time Boston Celtics Starting Five

| Position | Player | Era | Notable Achievements |
|----------|------------------|---------------|-----------------------|
| PG | Bob Cousy | 1950s–60s | 6× NBA champion, 13× All-Star, 1957 MVP |
| SG | John Havlicek| 1960s–70s | 8× NBA champion, 13× All-Star, Finals MVP 1974 |
| SF | Larry Bird | 1980s | 3× NBA champion, 3× MVP, 2× Finals MVP |
| PF | Kevin McHale | 1980s–90s | 3× NBA champion, 7× All-Star, 2× Sixth Man of the Year |
| C | Bill Russell | 1950s–60s | 11× NBA champion, 5× MVP, 12× All-Star |

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🛡️ Bench and Honorable Mentions

- Paul Pierce – 2008 Finals MVP, 10× All-Star
- Dave Cowens – 2× NBA champion, 1973 MVP
- Jo Jo White – 2× NBA champion, 1976 Finals MVP
- Robert Parish – 4× NBA champion, NBA’s all-time leader in games played
- Kevin Garnett – 2008 NBA champion, 2008 DPOY
- Ray Allen – 2008 NBA champion, all-time great shooter
- Rajon Rondo – 2× NBA champion, 4× All-Star, elite playmaker
- Bill Sharman – 4× NBA champion, 8× All-Star
- Tom Heinsohn – 8× NBA champion as player, 2× as coach
- Jayson Tatum – Modern star, 2024 NBA champion, multiple All-Star selections

---

🏆 Legacy and Culture

The Celtics’ legacy is defined by team-first basketball, defensive grit, and championship pedigree. From Red Auerbach’s dynasty-building in the 1950s and ’60s to the Big Three era of the 2000s and the resurgence led by Jayson Tatum today, Boston’s all-time roster reflects a franchise that has evolved while staying true to its roots.

The all-time Celtics crush anyone else and you know it.
Please there's No org that can compete with the Lakers all-time team

Magic
Kareem
Shaq
Kobe
Big game James

Elgin Baylor
The Logo Jerry West
Wilt
George Mikan
Lebron
AD
Michael Cooper
Paul Gasol
Byron Scott
Derek Fisher

Pat Riley
Phil Jackson

Nuff Said
Too bad that doesn't translate into head to head competition. I will admit you have the #GOAT in Chamberlain but only the tail end of his career.

Championships
18 > 17

Head to head Championships
9 > 3

All-time wins
210 > 166

Regular season wins
167 >135

Postseason wins
43 > 31

Auerbach as a head coach craps all over Riley and Zen boy. He would find a way to take down the all-time Lakers as he always found a way when he was head coach.

Big game James - :lol: :lol: :lol: thanks for the laugh!

Re: A.I. pissed at Nick Herbig's usage.

Posted: Wed Oct 22, 2025 4:18 pm
by gojira5150
Obviously wrote:
Wed Oct 22, 2025 1:32 pm
gojira5150 wrote:
Tue Oct 21, 2025 4:05 pm
Obviously wrote:
Tue Oct 21, 2025 11:27 am
And since I am a Celtics fan and hate the Lakers and Sixers, here you go:

The all-time Boston Celtics team is a who's who of basketball royalty, featuring legends from every era of the franchise’s storied history.

Here’s a breakdown of the most iconic Celtics to ever wear the green and white, based on historical impact, championships, and legacy:

---

🏀 All-Time Boston Celtics Starting Five

| Position | Player | Era | Notable Achievements |
|----------|------------------|---------------|-----------------------|
| PG | Bob Cousy | 1950s–60s | 6× NBA champion, 13× All-Star, 1957 MVP |
| SG | John Havlicek| 1960s–70s | 8× NBA champion, 13× All-Star, Finals MVP 1974 |
| SF | Larry Bird | 1980s | 3× NBA champion, 3× MVP, 2× Finals MVP |
| PF | Kevin McHale | 1980s–90s | 3× NBA champion, 7× All-Star, 2× Sixth Man of the Year |
| C | Bill Russell | 1950s–60s | 11× NBA champion, 5× MVP, 12× All-Star |

---

🛡️ Bench and Honorable Mentions

- Paul Pierce – 2008 Finals MVP, 10× All-Star
- Dave Cowens – 2× NBA champion, 1973 MVP
- Jo Jo White – 2× NBA champion, 1976 Finals MVP
- Robert Parish – 4× NBA champion, NBA’s all-time leader in games played
- Kevin Garnett – 2008 NBA champion, 2008 DPOY
- Ray Allen – 2008 NBA champion, all-time great shooter
- Rajon Rondo – 2× NBA champion, 4× All-Star, elite playmaker
- Bill Sharman – 4× NBA champion, 8× All-Star
- Tom Heinsohn – 8× NBA champion as player, 2× as coach
- Jayson Tatum – Modern star, 2024 NBA champion, multiple All-Star selections

---

🏆 Legacy and Culture

The Celtics’ legacy is defined by team-first basketball, defensive grit, and championship pedigree. From Red Auerbach’s dynasty-building in the 1950s and ’60s to the Big Three era of the 2000s and the resurgence led by Jayson Tatum today, Boston’s all-time roster reflects a franchise that has evolved while staying true to its roots.

The all-time Celtics crush anyone else and you know it.
Please there's No org that can compete with the Lakers all-time team

Magic
Kareem
Shaq
Kobe
Big game James

Elgin Baylor
The Logo Jerry West
Wilt
George Mikan
Lebron
AD
Michael Cooper
Paul Gasol
Byron Scott
Derek Fisher

Pat Riley
Phil Jackson

Nuff Said
Too bad that doesn't translate into head to head competition. I will admit you have the #GOAT in Chamberlain but only the tail end of his career.

Championships
18 > 17

Head to head Championships
9 > 3

All-time wins
210 > 166

Regular season wins
167 >135

Postseason wins
43 > 31

Auerbach as a head coach craps all over Riley and Zen boy. He would find a way to take down the all-time Lakers as he always found a way when he was head coach.

Big game James - :lol: :lol: :lol: thanks for the laugh!
You do know Big Game James has a Finals MVP right? Game 7 against the Pistons he had a triple/double while just destroying Salley/Rodman. He also took it to Frankenstein McHale in those NBA championship games.
BTW:
Magic - 5
Bird -3
Big Game James - 5 (Finals MVP)
Frankenstein - 3 (No Finals MVP)

Those early Celtic titles there was only 8 teams in the league. Big Deal.

Re: A.I. pissed at Nick Herbig's usage.

Posted: Wed Oct 22, 2025 5:58 pm
by Obviously
gojira5150 wrote:
Wed Oct 22, 2025 4:18 pm
Obviously wrote:
Wed Oct 22, 2025 1:32 pm
gojira5150 wrote:
Tue Oct 21, 2025 4:05 pm


Please there's No org that can compete with the Lakers all-time team

Magic
Kareem
Shaq
Kobe
Big game James

Elgin Baylor
The Logo Jerry West
Wilt
George Mikan
Lebron
AD
Michael Cooper
Paul Gasol
Byron Scott
Derek Fisher

Pat Riley
Phil Jackson

Nuff Said
Too bad that doesn't translate into head to head competition. I will admit you have the #GOAT in Chamberlain but only the tail end of his career.

Championships
18 > 17

Head to head Championships
9 > 3

All-time wins
210 > 166

Regular season wins
167 >135

Postseason wins
43 > 31

Auerbach as a head coach craps all over Riley and Zen boy. He would find a way to take down the all-time Lakers as he always found a way when he was head coach.

Big game James - :lol: :lol: :lol: thanks for the laugh!
You do know Big Game James has a Finals MVP right? Game 7 against the Pistons he had a triple/double while just destroying Salley/Rodman. He also took it to Frankenstein McHale in those NBA championship games.
BTW:
Magic - 5
Bird -3
Big Game James - 5 (Finals MVP)
Frankenstein - 3 (No Finals MVP)

Those early Celtic titles there was only 8 teams in the league. Big Deal.
They count. And they punked the Lakers nearly every year to win them. Big deal for sure

Lebrick took his talents to skid row. :lol:

Re: A.I. pissed at Nick Herbig's usage.

Posted: Wed Oct 22, 2025 7:52 pm
by gojira5150
Obviously wrote:
Wed Oct 22, 2025 5:58 pm
gojira5150 wrote:
Wed Oct 22, 2025 4:18 pm
Obviously wrote:
Wed Oct 22, 2025 1:32 pm


Too bad that doesn't translate into head to head competition. I will admit you have the #GOAT in Chamberlain but only the tail end of his career.

Championships
18 > 17

Head to head Championships
9 > 3

All-time wins
210 > 166

Regular season wins
167 >135

Postseason wins
43 > 31

Auerbach as a head coach craps all over Riley and Zen boy. He would find a way to take down the all-time Lakers as he always found a way when he was head coach.

Big game James - :lol: :lol: :lol: thanks for the laugh!
You do know Big Game James has a Finals MVP right? Game 7 against the Pistons he had a triple/double while just destroying Salley/Rodman. He also took it to Frankenstein McHale in those NBA championship games.
BTW:
Magic - 5
Bird -3
Big Game James - 5 (Finals MVP)
Frankenstein - 3 (No Finals MVP)

Those early Celtic titles there was only 8 teams in the league. Big Deal.
They count. And they punked the Lakers nearly every year to win them. Big deal for sure

Lebrick took his talents to skid row. :lol:
I can't stand LeFlop/LeGramps and can't wait for him to be gone. He's not a true Laker