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Ever wonder why Rodgers has become more skittish this year? Because clueless Jones keeps getting beating every way possible. He's now ranked 62nd out of 76 OTs in the league per PFF. Yes, I know it's PFF, but my eyes don't lie. He's absolute GARBAGE. We could pick up a LT off a practice squad tomorrow and he'd do better than this shit.

Great offenses start at the line of scrimmage and we have a massive liability on the left side. Look at the play where Rodgers missed DK for a TD. Yes, he missed him. But what happened? Broderick is IMMEDIATELY beaten across his face and Rodgers is forced to scramble left and try to throw back all the way to the right.

What an indictment on the front office and coaching staff. Not only did we TRADE UP and pass on multiple pro-bowlers, but we drafted someone who is pushing for worst in the league. Then we've completely failed to coach him up. (This one I'm willing to give them a pass on because Frazier, Mason, and Fautanu have developed...so that tells me Broderick is a LAZY SLOTH). But, the worst sin is entering the season with no backup plan in case Broderick shits the bed again which he has.

So, yes, we have a TERRIBLE scheme with way too many substitutions and no WR2. But it all starts up front and when you can't trust your LT, you are in big trouble.

They are masking Jones' bad play by putting Washington or the tackle eligible right next to him.
He needs to move to guard.

I had some hope when the press about him dropping some weight and changing his body to add quickness came out this summer. Now I'm getting retroactive Jerome Bettis "best shape of his career" vibes.

Sad after the sunk cost that LT is back on the pretty damn desperate needs list again this soon.

They’ll never admit their mistake.

langer wrote: ↑

Wed Nov 12, 2025 2:31 pm

They’ll never admit their mistake.

that is the correct answer

I once had a CEO tell me "Every CEO fails. The great ones just know how to fail fast."

You have to cut bait quickly with the losers. No team in the NFL is slower to move on from failure than the Tomlin-led Pittsburgh Steelers and that is probably their greatest indictment. It took years of Fichtner and Canada and now we have Arthur Smith? It took years to figure out Najee sucked? It takes years to realize Jones is horrible?

Ice wrote: ↑

Wed Nov 12, 2025 1:40 pm

Sad after the sunk cost that LT is back on the pretty damn desperate needs list again this soon.

I'm against drafting a QB this year. Too expensive to move up for one of the top names, none of whom excite me all that much.

I'd use the picks to move up and rebuild the trenches. See what Will Howard has next year. Then, hopefully, a new HC will draft a QB if Howard isn't the guy.

Problem is, Tomlin having input into those picks, especially the high ones, is a good reason to focus where he has a chance to succeed. Defense. And defense only, specifically DL and LB.

Maybe TJ becomes the 2027 move to trade-up for a QB. Bos, too - he'd be 37 and have maybe just a few quality years left. But still VERY attractive to a contender that needs a kicker.

langer wrote: ↑

Wed Nov 12, 2025 2:31 pm

They’ll never admit their mistake.

Most teams don't

The Steelers will admit theirs when then don't offer the 5th year tender.

would he be better at RG?

yeah, yeah, even closer to getting the QB killed.

But seems like he needs to be in tight quarters, instead of out on an island.

Less thinking and less need to move out quickly to defend an outside speed rush.

He would probably be better in a phone booth, wrestling guys.

Steeldrama wrote: ↑

Wed Nov 12, 2025 4:46 pm

langer wrote: ↑

Wed Nov 12, 2025 2:31 pm

They’ll never admit their mistake.

Most teams don't

The Steelers will admit theirs when then don't offer the 5th year tender.

I can remember two that this team might have admitted.

Huey Richardson and Jalaim Stephenson.

langer wrote: ↑

Wed Nov 12, 2025 5:26 pm

Steeldrama wrote: ↑

Wed Nov 12, 2025 4:46 pm

langer wrote: ↑

Wed Nov 12, 2025 2:31 pm

They’ll never admit their mistake.

Most teams don't

The Steelers will admit theirs when then don't offer the 5th year tender.

I can remember two that this team might have admitted.

Huey Richardson and Jalaim Stephenson.

Yep Cowher pulled the plug quickly on Huey (zero reos at 225 should’ve been a red flag) upon his arrival as HC of the Steelers

Stephens may have been the start of the Cowher/Donohoe rift

Brutally bad pick

langer wrote: ↑

Wed Nov 12, 2025 2:31 pm

They’ll never admit their mistake.

This x 1,000

Problem is, Tomlin having input into those picks, especially the high ones, is a good reason to focus where he has a chance to succeed. Defense. And defense only, specifically DL and LB.

Devin Bush, every corner he’s ever drafted, and the JAGs that play dline all say hello.

955876 wrote: ↑

Wed Nov 12, 2025 5:43 pm

Problem is, Tomlin having input into those picks, especially the high ones, is a good reason to focus where he has a chance to succeed. Defense. And defense only, specifically DL and LB.

Devin Bush, every corner he’s ever drafted, and the JAGs that play dline all say hello.

Yep Tomlin not a good picker of horse flesh

Announcing to the world he loved Darrelle Revis only to have Rex Ryan trade up right in front of him definitely Cool Shades welcome to the NFL moment

Timmons was a blah consolation prize but prime Lamar Woodley made up for it

All teams have their share of good and bad

Cowher hit it big with Troy and Ben but rarely mentioned were the flops that followed Alonzo Jackson and Ricardo Colclough

Larry Timmons would be close to the best player on this defense.

I think the plan has to be Darnell Washington at LT next year. Kick Broderick in to G. Might work. If Washington is only going to get 27 snaps and 1 target, why bother with him at TE. He could have massive impact as an OL.

Plus, run some unbalanced, Tackle-eligible stuff with him and he'd get the same amount of targets, anyway.

.Kodiak wrote: ↑

Wed Nov 12, 2025 4:34 pm

Ice wrote: ↑

Wed Nov 12, 2025 1:40 pm

Sad after the sunk cost that LT is back on the pretty damn desperate needs list again this soon.

I'm against drafting a QB this year. Too expensive to move up for one of the top names, none of whom excite me all that much.

I'd use the picks to move up and rebuild the trenches. See what Will Howard has next year. Then, hopefully, a new HC will draft a QB if Howard isn't the guy.

Problem is, Tomlin having input into those picks, especially the high ones, is a good reason to focus where he has a chance to succeed. Defense. And defense only, specifically DL and LB.

Maybe TJ becomes the 2027 move to trade-up for a QB. Bos, too - he'd be 37 and have maybe just a few quality years left. But still VERY attractive to a contender that needs a kicker.

Same. The idea of going QB, to me, was more predicated on the (slim) hope that the roster was a LOT closer to set than it is. The quick aging of the OLBs and the flop of Jones at LT has left several of the most important positions on the team in shambles. Could certainly add into the nasty tasting stew that the QB class itself isn't all that, and for the kicker, it's Tomlin and his Merry Band that are going to be picking, then "coaching" and "developing" said QB, and it's just an awful, awful idea. Unfortunately, it very well might be one that the team isn't going to steer away from.

Ice wrote: ↑

Wed Nov 12, 2025 6:46 pm

.Kodiak wrote: ↑

Wed Nov 12, 2025 4:34 pm

Ice wrote: ↑

Wed Nov 12, 2025 1:40 pm

Sad after the sunk cost that LT is back on the pretty damn desperate needs list again this soon.

I'm against drafting a QB this year. Too expensive to move up for one of the top names, none of whom excite me all that much.

I'd use the picks to move up and rebuild the trenches. See what Will Howard has next year. Then, hopefully, a new HC will draft a QB if Howard isn't the guy.

Problem is, Tomlin having input into those picks, especially the high ones, is a good reason to focus where he has a chance to succeed. Defense. And defense only, specifically DL and LB.

Maybe TJ becomes the 2027 move to trade-up for a QB. Bos, too - he'd be 37 and have maybe just a few quality years left. But still VERY attractive to a contender that needs a kicker.

Same. The idea of going QB, to me, was more predicated on the (slim) hope that the roster was a LOT closer to set than it is. The quick aging of the OLBs and the flop of Jones at LT has left several of the most important positions on the team in shambles. Could certainly add into the nasty tasting stew that the QB class itself isn't all that, and for the kicker, it's Tomlin and his Merry Band that are going to be picking, then "coaching" and "developing" said QB, and it's just an awful, awful idea. Unfortunately, it very well might be one that the team isn't going to steer away from.

If you have great coaching, you don't need high draft choices and high-priced free against at every position. You could trade back from 16 or 20 or whatever, pick a QB late in round 1, and still have lots of premium picks with which to draft exciting prospects. You could do the same thing every year, until a QB falls into your lap.

bradshaw2ben wrote: ↑

Wed Nov 12, 2025 6:51 pm

If you have great coaching, you don't need high draft choices and high-priced free against at every position. You could trade back from 16 or 20 or whatever, pick a QB late in round 1, and still have lots of premium picks with which to draft exciting prospects. You could do the same thing every year, until a QB falls into your lap.

By the same token, a new HC that can't skate by on NHALS will being drafting pretty high the first few years while they rebuild the roster into what he wants.

bradshaw2ben wrote: ↑

Wed Nov 12, 2025 6:22 pm

Larry Timmons would be close to the best player on this defense.

I think the plan has to be Darnell Washington at LT next year. Kick Broderick in to G. Might work. If Washington is only going to get 27 snaps and 1 target, why bother with him at TE. He could have massive impact as an OL.

Plus, run some unbalanced, Tackle-eligible stuff with him and he'd get the same amount of targets, anyway.

And with potential tackle money Washington would be a fool to not want the position switch. Could be interesting. Plays Tackle 95% of snaps at LT. Plays 5% at TE in certain heavy packages.

bradshaw2ben wrote: ↑

Wed Nov 12, 2025 6:51 pm

Ice wrote: ↑

Wed Nov 12, 2025 6:46 pm

.Kodiak wrote: ↑

Wed Nov 12, 2025 4:34 pm

I'm against drafting a QB this year. Too expensive to move up for one of the top names, none of whom excite me all that much.

I'd use the picks to move up and rebuild the trenches. See what Will Howard has next year. Then, hopefully, a new HC will draft a QB if Howard isn't the guy.

Problem is, Tomlin having input into those picks, especially the high ones, is a good reason to focus where he has a chance to succeed. Defense. And defense only, specifically DL and LB.

Maybe TJ becomes the 2027 move to trade-up for a QB. Bos, too - he'd be 37 and have maybe just a few quality years left. But still VERY attractive to a contender that needs a kicker.

Same. The idea of going QB, to me, was more predicated on the (slim) hope that the roster was a LOT closer to set than it is. The quick aging of the OLBs and the flop of Jones at LT has left several of the most important positions on the team in shambles. Could certainly add into the nasty tasting stew that the QB class itself isn't all that, and for the kicker, it's Tomlin and his Merry Band that are going to be picking, then "coaching" and "developing" said QB, and it's just an awful, awful idea. Unfortunately, it very well might be one that the team isn't going to steer away from.

If you have great coaching, you don't need high draft choices and high-priced free against at every position. You could trade back from 16 or 20 or whatever, pick a QB late in round 1, and still have lots of premium picks with which to draft exciting prospects. You could do the same thing every year, until a QB falls into your lap.

Hey, no argument here, and there's no cap whatsoever on how much you can spend to get it!

lifelongsteel wrote: ↑

Wed Nov 12, 2025 7:06 pm

bradshaw2ben wrote: ↑

Wed Nov 12, 2025 6:22 pm

Larry Timmons would be close to the best player on this defense.

I think the plan has to be Darnell Washington at LT next year. Kick Broderick in to G. Might work. If Washington is only going to get 27 snaps and 1 target, why bother with him at TE. He could have massive impact as an OL.

Plus, run some unbalanced, Tackle-eligible stuff with him and he'd get the same amount of targets, anyway.

And with potential tackle money Washington would be a fool to not want the position switch. Could be interesting. Plays Tackle 95% of snaps at LT. Plays 5% at TE in certain heavy packages.

Jibbs and Meyer are the perfect duo to pull this transition off.

No team in the NFL is slower to move on from failure than the Tomlin-led Pittsburgh Steelers and that is probably their greatest indictment

Fully agree with the quote above.

The move inside to guard may be worth an experiment. LG position would be my first choice too.

There are several OT’s in 26 draft that could be drafted later in the first round which would fit for where they likely draft.

Moving Washington to LT would be a huge move for the staff to accommodate. As is stated in this thread development isn’t their strong suit.

You’re weakening two, three positions all at once when you realize what it’s going to require development wise.

I would like to take this opportunity to name another disappointment drafted really high and seemingly isn’t working well.

JPJ obviously was drafted high due to the hype he is Porters kid. I see JPJ struggling far too much for such a “talented” guy.

The league is focused on him too. I expect more penalties being called due his poor development.

All said, either one were to go to another franchise might see them excel and play All Pro like we’ve seen before.

Rodgers said PIT wanted to move him to LT and he was like "are you nuts?!?"

.Kodiak wrote: ↑

Wed Nov 12, 2025 8:09 pm

Rodgers said PIT wanted to move him to LT and he was like "are you nuts?!?"

Wait, they want Arod to move to LT or Broderick the Terrible? I can believe either.

langer wrote: ↑

Wed Nov 12, 2025 8:41 pm

.Kodiak wrote: ↑

Wed Nov 12, 2025 8:09 pm

Rodgers said PIT wanted to move him to LT and he was like "are you nuts?!?"

Wait, they want Arod to move to LT or Broderick the Terrible? I can believe either.

I also need clarification on what Kodiak was trying to say

Moving Washington to LT would be a huge move for the staff to accommodate. As is stated in this thread development isn’t their strong suit.

You’re weakening two, three positions all at once when you realize what it’s going to require development wise.

It would be dumb to try to do this at this point. Which means the team might try because they are dumb.

Maybe in a few years when he gets too slow to be a viable pass catcher.

He is a mismatch TE in terms of his blocking & size. He has good hands and can make plays.

Only a fucking idiotic staff line ours doesn’t take advantage of that.

Sure he is slow. But he’s a great weapon to have when paired with a more nibble pass catching TE in a proper offense.

Pitt will fuck this up. Like everything else they do.

955876 wrote: ↑

Wed Nov 12, 2025 8:47 pm

Moving Washington to LT would be a huge move for the staff to accommodate. As is stated in this thread development isn’t their strong suit.

You’re weakening two, three positions all at once when you realize what it’s going to require development wise.

It would be dumb to try to do this at this point. Which means the team might try because they are dumb.

Maybe in a few years when he gets too slow to be a viable pass catcher.

He is a mismatch TE in terms of his blocking & size. He has good hands and can make plays.

Only a fucking idiotic staff line ours doesn’t take advantage of that.

Sure he is slow. But he’s a great weapon to have when paired with a more nibble pass catching TE in a proper offense.

Pitt will fuck this up. Like everything else they do.

If Andy Reid was the OC, he would have weaponized Washington by now to be one of the deadliest TE's in the league. He's impossible to cover and the league would be trying to get their own Mt Washington.

But this braindead bunch of keystone cops have made him a glorified Tackle and his talents are fucking wasted.
I hate these coaches so fuckin much!

Jizz Mop wrote: ↑

Wed Nov 12, 2025 8:43 pm

langer wrote: ↑

Wed Nov 12, 2025 8:41 pm

.Kodiak wrote: ↑

Wed Nov 12, 2025 8:09 pm

Rodgers said PIT wanted to move him to LT and he was like "are you nuts?!?"

Wait, they want Arod to move to LT or Broderick the Terrible? I can believe either.

I also need clarification on what Kodiak was trying to say

I believe they told Arod they wanted to move Darnell Washington to tackle........ maybe in camp?
And Arod was like...u nuts ( of course we know the answer to that )
Arod can see that Darnell could the potential weapon and mismatch #80 could be............
Before realizing that it could be in 31 other offenses.....but not in the one dictated by Chief Obtuse

Bwelease Bwoderick!

Deebo wrote: ↑

Wed Nov 12, 2025 9:04 pm

955876 wrote: ↑

Wed Nov 12, 2025 8:47 pm

Moving Washington to LT would be a huge move for the staff to accommodate. As is stated in this thread development isn’t their strong suit.

You’re weakening two, three positions all at once when you realize what it’s going to require development wise.

It would be dumb to try to do this at this point. Which means the team might try because they are dumb.

Maybe in a few years when he gets too slow to be a viable pass catcher.

He is a mismatch TE in terms of his blocking & size. He has good hands and can make plays.

Only a fucking idiotic staff line ours doesn’t take advantage of that.

Sure he is slow. But he’s a great weapon to have when paired with a more nibble pass catching TE in a proper offense.

Pitt will fuck this up. Like everything else they do.

If Andy Reid was the OC, he would have weaponized Washington by now to be one of the deadliest TE's in the league. He's impossible to cover and the league would be trying to get their own Mt Washington.

But this braindead bunch of keystone cops have made him a glorified Tackle and his talents are fucking wasted.
I hate these coaches so fuckin much!

Just so sad at what they do to offense and how they can keep the reigns on potential.
Squandered the killers Bees era offense....
and they have been playing in a cocoon the last 8 years?