TJ Watt 2021 v Garrett 2025

[zeke5123]

I know many are upset at Watt now, but he was a truly amazing player. I was curious how Watt's 2021 season compares to Garrett's current season. Started comparing the stats. Watt had a clearly better season overall on raw counting stats. But what is truly amazing is that Watt played significantly fewer snaps compared to Garrett making his season all the more impressive. I know the media is very invested in Garrett being the greatest (query why) but Garrett's peak season (i.e., 2025) not nearly as good as Watt's peak season (2021).

Formatting from excel was a pain, but see below. First row is the raw counting stats. Second row is counting stat per snap. So for example Watt got a sack every 33.7 snaps whereas Garrett sacked someone once every 36.5 snaps. Watt betters Garrett in each category except TFL in raw counting stats and really blows the lid off when factoring in 47 less snaps i.e., almost an entire game less.

TJ Watt 2021 Season
Sacks TFL PD FF Int Tackles Snaps
22.50 21.00 7.00 5.00 0.00 68.00 758.00
33.7 36.1 108.3 151.6 0.0 11.1

Myles Garrett 2025 Season
Sacks TFL PD FF Int Tackles Snaps
22.0 32.0 1.0 3.0 0.0 59.0 803.0
36.5 25.1 803.0 267.7 0.0 13.6

[.Kodiak]

Watt was always a much better all around football player than Garrett.

Hopefully this is just a couple of down seasons because of injuries and Watt still has another couple top years left. Or maybe a new HC won't need Watt to play 150% on 70 snaps every game in pursuit of NHALS....

[W&M_Steeler]

Watt was always a much better all around football player than Garrett.

Hopefully this is just a couple of down seasons because of injuries and Watt still has another couple top years left. Or maybe a new HC won't need Watt to play 150% on 70 snaps every game in pursuit of NHALS....

Watt's not going to get any better. He's on the decline now, he's widely recognized as a HoF lock, the Steelers are stagnant and aren't going to win anything no matter what Watt does, and he's been paid. He can't really do anything more to solidify his career, and it seems like some of his fire is gone.

TJ was amazing at his peak, but unfortunately his peak came about 4 years too late to matter in terms of winning anything. Too bad Jervis wasn't as good as TJ turned out to be.

[955876]

I wouldn’t be surprised if TJ plays Sunday and does jack shit.

Maybe he will tackle the person with the ball this time around instead of chasing ghost.

[Stillerz Bar]

TJ is definitely past his prime but he should own the single season sack record on his own.

Much like Favre's fall down for Strahan, Burrow just went down when Garrett got close.

Add in the fact that TJ got screwed out of a sack by the statistician in Baltimore and should have 23.5.

I know it doesn't matter in the grand scheme of things - TJ is what he is and will never come close to record numbers again but that season he was almost unstoppable...plus he did it in 15 games.

We all know TJ's futility in the playoffs but it's hard to argue that he's an overall better player than Garrett.

[zeke5123]

TJ is definitely past his prime but he should own the single season sack record on his own.

Much like Favre's fall down for Strahan, Burrow just went down when Garrett got close.

Add in the fact that TJ got screwed out of a sack by the statistician in Baltimore and should have 23.5.

I know it doesn't matter in the grand scheme of things - TJ is what he is and will never come close to record numbers again but that season he was almost unstoppable...plus he did it in 15 games.

We all know TJ's futility in the playoffs but it's hard to argue that he's an overall better player than Garrett.

In the year 2025? No of course not. But Watt’s best was easily better than Garrett’s (made up PFF stats notwithstanding).

[langer]

Too funny, that gap toothed idiot Strahan didn't even mention The Jogger.

He's not even part of the discussion any longer. Pathetic.

[zeke5123]

Too funny, that gap toothed idiot Strahan didn't even mention The Jogger.

He's not even part of the discussion any longer. Pathetic.

I think it’s racial personally

[Steeldrama]

Via twitter

Snaps required for each sack record

Myles Garrett (23): 437
TJ Watt (22.5): 616
Michael Strahan (22.5): 567

Garrett shits all over the jogger

But

Neither have helped their franchise win a damn thing so the record is pretty damn hollow

[CKSteeler]

Too funny, that gap toothed idiot Strahan didn't even mention The Jogger.

He's not even part of the discussion any longer. Pathetic.

I think it’s racial personally

I've always thought this with Watt. He gets painted as a try-hard type while Garrett is the athletic freak. While Garrett is an athletic freak, Watt was also a pretty amazing athlete in his own right which is why he was taken in the first round despite being a project with limited experience as a pass rusher. It wasn't just his last name.

There's an element of this to where the media had anointed Garrett before he ever even played a game as a top draft pick, though, too. Those who fancy themselves draft gurus in particular are loath to admit that a guy who was even a late first rounder could truly be better than a guy like Garrett.

Watt set that record but was cheated out of it and he did it to none of the fan fair that Garrett received regardless.

Up until about halfway through last season, Watt was next level compared to Garrett in my book. As of the last season and a half, Garrett has surpassed Watt but remains a very hot and cold player whose real impact on games is grossly overstated.

He just isn't even that close to as good as Watt was at his peak. That 2021 season was so deserving of DPOY and he was screwed out of it, though at least it went to Darnold and not that fuck Garrett who laughably was put into the conversation despite having nowhere near the season Watt had.

[StillerDownSouth]

I put this Watt vs Garrett stuff in the category of who gives a fuck.

[DumlinBumlinStumlin]

Zac Taylor whining over the game stoppage to recognize

Maybe next time don’t have your QB give himself up

https://www.nbcsports.com/nfl/profootba ... es-garrett

[CKSteeler]

I put this Watt vs Garrett stuff in the category of who gives a fuck.

You could say this about literally any sports discussion.

[tbsteel]

I said it years ago:

Garrett was always the more dominating pass rusher.
Watt --was-- the better football player

But Watt is clearly two steps behind what he used to be and that ain't coming back.

[.Kodiak]

LOL....who had Henry for 300+?

[W&M_Steeler]

I said it years ago:

Garrett was always the more dominating pass rusher.
Watt --was-- the better football player

But Watt is clearly two steps behind what he used to be and that ain't coming back.

Good thing the Steelers gave TJ a record breaking contract extension

[zeke5123]

Via twitter

Snaps required for each sack record

Myles Garrett (23): 437
TJ Watt (22.5): 616
Michael Strahan (22.5): 567

Garrett shits all over the jogger

But

Neither have helped their franchise win a damn thing so the record is pretty damn hollow

It just isn’t true though. The Steelers didn’t even face 616 passes that season (it was mid 500s). And Watt missed a lot of time.

[LakecrestSteeler]

Via twitter

Snaps required for each sack record

Myles Garrett (23): 437
TJ Watt (22.5): 616
Michael Strahan (22.5): 567

Garrett shits all over the jogger

But

Neither have helped their franchise win a damn thing so the record is pretty damn hollow

It just isn’t true though. The Steelers didn’t even face 616 passes that season (it was mid 500s). And Watt missed a lot of time.

Watt missed 2 games if memory serves.

[RemoAZ]

Too funny, that gap toothed idiot Strahan didn't even mention The Jogger.

He's not even part of the discussion any longer. Pathetic.

I think it’s racial personally

I've always thought this with Watt. He gets painted as a try-hard type while Garrett is the athletic freak. While Garrett is an athletic freak, Watt was also a pretty amazing athlete in his own right which is why he was taken in the first round despite being a project with limited experience as a pass rusher. It wasn't just his last name.

There's an element of this to where the media had anointed Garrett before he ever even played a game as a top draft pick, though, too. Those who fancy themselves draft gurus in particular are loath to admit that a guy who was even a late first rounder could truly be better than a guy like Garrett.

Watt set that record but was cheated out of it and he did it to none of the fan fair that Garrett received regardless.

Up until about halfway through last season, Watt was next level compared to Garrett in my book. As of the last season and a half, Garrett has surpassed Watt but remains a very hot and cold player whose real impact on games is grossly overstated.

He just isn't even that close to as good as Watt was at his peak. That 2021 season was so deserving of DPOY and he was screwed out of it, though at least it went to Darnold and not that fuck Garrett who laughably was put into the conversation despite having nowhere near the season Watt had.

He's lying racist scumbag. Watt is a model teammate and citizen but unfortunately for him, not a minority. That's why they screwed him out of at least one sack in that season and multiple DPoY awards.

[CKSteeler]

LOL....who had Henry for 300+?

Well, you know, when he ran it like 4 times in the last 2.5 quarters of the game, kind of hard to do that.

[CKSteeler]

Via twitter

Snaps required for each sack record

Myles Garrett (23): 437
TJ Watt (22.5): 616
Michael Strahan (22.5): 567

Garrett shits all over the jogger

But

Neither have helped their franchise win a damn thing so the record is pretty damn hollow

It just isn’t true though. The Steelers didn’t even face 616 passes that season (it was mid 500s). And Watt missed a lot of time.

I saw this shit posted earlier and it's pure propaganda. Even worse than the bullshit stats PFF uses to crown Myles Garrett who before this season was never actually even the better pure pass rusher let alone player.

[zeke5123]

Via twitter

Snaps required for each sack record

Myles Garrett (23): 437
TJ Watt (22.5): 616
Michael Strahan (22.5): 567

Garrett shits all over the jogger

But

Neither have helped their franchise win a damn thing so the record is pretty damn hollow

It just isn’t true though. The Steelers didn’t even face 616 passes that season (it was mid 500s). And Watt missed a lot of time.

I saw this shit posted earlier and it's pure propaganda. Even worse than the bullshit stats PFF uses to crown Myles Garrett who before this season was never actually even the better pure pass rusher let alone player.

It’s weird. It’s easily verifiable to be untrue.

[CKSteeler]

It just isn’t true though. The Steelers didn’t even face 616 passes that season (it was mid 500s). And Watt missed a lot of time.

I saw this shit posted earlier and it's pure propaganda. Even worse than the bullshit stats PFF uses to crown Myles Garrett who before this season was never actually even the better pure pass rusher let alone player.

It’s weird. It’s easily verifiable to be untrue.

It's something the Garrett wankers want to be true. It feels true to them. Like his bullshit made-up pass rush win rate stat.