The Pick Is In - SF Staff Picks for the Steelers 1st rounder

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The Pick Is In - SF Staff Picks for the Steelers 1st rounder

Post by Steelperch » Thu Apr 30, 2015 3:48 am

An annualt tradition on Draft Eve, The SteelerFury Staff has put together their last minute guesses as to who the Steelers will select with their first round pick. After much scrutiny of the draft process, the Steelers interest and visits with players, below is our final shot at nailing what the team will do with their first round pick.


SP's Pick
Shane Ray, OLB, Missouri
While I have been mainly pessimistic and convinced the Steelers would take one of two players most of us dislike (Kevin Johnson or Eli Harold), my thought process has recently changed. The front office has been known to roll the dice a bit and catch a falling player that was highly rated on their board. Jarvis Jones and Mike Adams being recent examples. As for all of the talk about a first round corner, let's remember this is the Pittsburgh Steelers. The franchise hasn't drafted a CB in round 1 in the last SEVENTEEN years and have spent only 3 top 2 round picks on the CB position in the last 21 year. They have, however, spent a top 2 round pick on a linebacker 5 times in the past 8 drafts. The Steelers defense is predicated on a strong pass rush which happens to be their number 1 weakness right now. Shane Ray is a player who until the past few weeks was regarded as a surefire Top 15 and possible Top 5 pick in the draft. Medical reports about a gimpy foot and a pot posession charge the week before the draft will very likely drop him into the Steelers range. Known as a conservative franchise that avoids character risks, the Steelers seem to understand that a large portion of the players in the draft pool also use recreational marijuana. In the past they have gambled on players with a marijuana history namely Marvel Smith, Santonio Holmes, and Mike Adams. If they view Shane Ray as an elite edge rusher, and his medicals checked out, then I think they will be willing to overlook the isolated drug incident in which Ray was just involved and pull the trigger.

As a player, Ray is relentless and explosive. Although I have some questions his ability to dip around the edge, he has the athleticism, tenacity, and speed to create havoc in the backfield. His coach at Missouri, Gary Pinkel, said Ray “is one of the great competitors I’ve been around in my life." Do yourself a favor and watch Shane Ray abuse potential 1st round LT DJ Humphries and tell me Colbert and Tomlin would be willing to pass on this guy because of a boo-boo on his foot and a dime bag in his car. http://draftbreakdown.com/video/shane-ray-vs-florida-2014/ My guess is the Steelers try to catch a falling star and select Shane Ray, OLB, Missouri.
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FC's Pick:
Marcus Peters, CB, Washington

I believe the Steelers will select Marcus Peters. The biggest reason for this is Marcus Peters will be the best player available when they pick. I will go a step further and say in my not-at-all humble opinion he fits the Steeers needs better at CB than anyone to enter the draft since that Darelle Revis kid out of Pitt. Getting Peters will be a BPA pick and also fill the team's biggest need. I also believe the pick would have been Shane Ray if he did not get busted for herb.
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B2B's Pick:
Landon Collins, SS Alabama

I won't like this pick, mostly because I believe the Steelers need a FS and some game changing playmakers, but I see Landon Collins as the pick. Landon Collins to me is more steady than dynamic, and is an in-the-box type of Safety. That said, I could see the Steelers brain trust selecting the big Strong Safety out of Alabama. They do seem to favor big school producers with high floors, especially if that player is an underaged prospect with the potential to grow into more than what he already is. Collins checks all of those boxes. He would be a typical safe Steelers 1st round pick and replace the recently departed Troy Polamalu. My dark horse pick for the Steelers is La'el Collins. (Editors note: this comment was made before the murder investigation story broke)
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Post by Legacy User » Thu Apr 30, 2015 10:17 am

Great job, guys.

Anyone of the three and the Caipirinha'a are on me.

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Post by Legacy User » Thu Apr 30, 2015 11:51 am

I hope FC is right. That's who I want. It's who the Steelers should want.

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Post by Legacy User » Thu Apr 30, 2015 12:34 pm

SP wrote:FC's Pick:
Marcus Peters, CB, Washington[/b]
I believe the Steelers will select Marcus Peters. The biggest reason for this is Marcus Peters will be the best player available when they pick.


Why does anyone think Peters will be there at 22?

If he is as talented as people say, how is he not the the second corner off the board?

And if he is as talented as people say, and corner needy teams pass on him for lesser talent due to character concerns, then why in the world will the Steelers, who are more bad character averse than any team in the league, pick him?

Hope he is there. Hope he is the pick.

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Post by bradshaw2ben » Thu Apr 30, 2015 12:42 pm

Well I'm not a fan of the Collins pick-- don't love him but the bigger issue is i'd much rather have Mitchell at SS with a good young FS... Drafting Collins means your money going to Mitchell is wasted and the improvement of the defense minimal in the near term.
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Post by jebrick » Thu Apr 30, 2015 12:53 pm

I do not think Landon Collins is very high on their board for the very reasons you named.. I think he is a popular pick of the mockers because Troy retired.
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Post by Legacy User » Thu Apr 30, 2015 12:54 pm

Still Lit wrote:
SP wrote:FC's Pick:
Marcus Peters, CB, Washington[/b]
I believe the Steelers will select Marcus Peters. The biggest reason for this is Marcus Peters will be the best player available when they pick.


Why does anyone think Peters will be there at 22?

If he is as talented as people say, how is he not the the second corner off the board?

And if he is as talented as people say, and corner needy teams pass on him for lesser talent due to character concerns, then why in the world will the Steelers, who are more bad character averse than any team in the league, pick him?

Hope he is there. Hope he is the pick.


I fear he will be gone prior to 22. My hope is that he is not.

I'd rather take my chance w a hothead punk than a guy who tested positive for weed.

The latter has a target on his back for future drug suspension.

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Post by Legacy User » Thu Apr 30, 2015 12:57 pm

USA Today mock has us passing on Peters, taking Collins, and the Ravens landing Peters at 26.

That actually happening would piss me the fuck off.

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Post by Nick79 » Thu Apr 30, 2015 12:58 pm

SP wrote:FC's Pick:
Marcus Peters, CB, Washington

I believe the Steelers will select Marcus Peters. The biggest reason for this is Marcus Peters will be the best player available when they pick. I will go a step further and say in my not-at-all humble opinion he fits the Steeers needs better at CB than anyone to enter the draft since that Darelle Revis kid out of Pitt. Getting Peters will be a BPA pick and also fill the team's biggest need. I also believe the pick would have been Shane Ray if he did not get busted for herb.
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Post by Nick79 » Thu Apr 30, 2015 12:59 pm

BarryFoster wrote:USA Today mock has us passing on Peters, taking Collins, and the Ravens landing Peters at 26.

That actually happening would piss me the fuck off.


That would be just like last year when THE STEELERS FUCKED UP and took Shazier over THE BETTER PLAYER Mosley and the Ravens grabbed THE BETTER PLAYER as the Steelers tried to outsmart everybody and outsmarted themselves.

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Post by Legacy User » Thu Apr 30, 2015 1:02 pm

Captain Caps Lock out in full force today

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Post by Nick79 » Thu Apr 30, 2015 1:18 pm

Luca Brasi wrote:Captain Caps Lock out in full force today

Damn fucking straight and there's not a goddamn thing that you can do to stop it asshole.

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Post by Nick79 » Thu Apr 30, 2015 1:19 pm

Maybe I'll increase your enjoyment by repeating the same posts multiple times.

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Post by Nick79 » Thu Apr 30, 2015 1:23 pm

Nick79 wrote:Maybe I'll increase your enjoyment by repeating the same posts multiple times.


For you Luca, Maybe I'll increase your enjoyment by repeating the same posts multiple times.

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Post by Nick79 » Thu Apr 30, 2015 1:41 pm

Luca Brasi wrote:Captain Caps Lock out in full force today


YOU had yo go and RUIN this thread with your off topic bullshit!


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Post by tbsteel » Thu Apr 30, 2015 2:01 pm

Any draft with Bud Dupree as a top ten pick has to suck at the top. Still, there should be some pretty high quality players at 22, including a possible blue chipper in Peters if he's still around.

I just don't see them pulling the trigger on Landon Collins. They traded up for Shamarko Thomas, they've spent two years coaching and preparing him for when his opportunity would come once Troy finally road off into the sunset. I don't think they're going to throw a pile of dirt on him now with a first round safety. It's going to be a pass rusher or CB, or possibly even a T depending on who has gone.
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Post by steelclan » Thu Apr 30, 2015 2:21 pm

TB wrote:Any draft with Bud Dupree as a top ten pick has to suck at the top. Still, there should be some pretty high quality players at 22, including a possible blue chipper in Peters if he's still around.

I just don't see them pulling the trigger on Landon Collins. They traded up for Shamarko Thomas, they've spent two years coaching and preparing him for when his opportunity would come once Troy finally road off into the sunset. I don't think they're going to throw a pile of dirt on him now with a first round safety. It's going to be a pass rusher or CB, or possibly even a T depending on who has gone.


Oh I dunno, teams as you well know fall in love with measurables and media hype all the damn time. Even in great draft classes you see players taken way higher than they should've been. My hope is Peters is there or if not a team behind Steelers get desperate for a RB or WR so they can move back. I dont like Harold but I'd be able to stomach it in the early 2nd with extra 3rd or 4th giving Steelers chance to move back up in 2nd to get a CB or OLB if they dont take Harold.

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Post by Orangesteel » Thu Apr 30, 2015 2:34 pm

I agree, if Peters is there and we don't take him I'm going lose my shit.
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Post by Legacy User » Thu Apr 30, 2015 2:56 pm

They're taking Kevin Johnson if he's there. I like Marcus Peters more, but I'm fine with either. I don't think they'll take Shane Ray or Randy Gregory. Landon Collins would be my nightmare pick. Shazier is going to be better than C.J. Moseley.

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Post by K_C_ » Thu Apr 30, 2015 3:29 pm

The Pierogi wrote:They're taking Kevin Johnson if he's there. I like Marcus Peters more, but I'm fine with either. I don't think they'll take Shane Ray or Randy Gregory. Landon Collins would be my nightmare pick. Shazier is going to be better than C.J. Moseley.


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Post by Legacy User » Thu Apr 30, 2015 3:34 pm

The Pierogi wrote:Shazier is going to be better than C.J. Moseley.

Anything can happen but I doubt that will ever happen.

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Post by Nick79 » Thu Apr 30, 2015 4:11 pm

Jackie Chiles wrote:
The Pierogi wrote:Shazier is going to be better than C.J. Moseley.

Anything can happen but I doubt that will ever happen.

I'm not up on why they picked Shazier over Moseley? Did Mosely have the dreaded "poor character" ? I mean he was ranked ahead of Shazier on all boards, by all accounts, that's why I think they outsmart themselves sometimes. I hope Shazier is better eventually, I hope Pierogi is right, but Moseley totally crushed him in durability and performance last year, if he can stay consistant, they've replaced Ray Lewis pretty well, and maybe we screwed up.

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Post by Legacy User » Thu Apr 30, 2015 4:20 pm

My guess is they took Shazier over Mosely because his superior workout would translate to a better package cover LB. Even though Mosely was better in coverage as well. It really likely came down to Timmons is to fat to cover.

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Post by Legacy User » Thu Apr 30, 2015 4:35 pm

I'll be happy when Kevin White is picked so I can quickly eliminate the scenario where he falls to us at 22.

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Post by bradshaw2ben » Thu Apr 30, 2015 4:38 pm

Hey, McGinn has Agholor going top 15 and there's talk of DGB going before any other WR... so, nothing is a certainty because the talking heads say it is.
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Post by Legacy User » Thu Apr 30, 2015 4:40 pm

bradshaw2ben wrote:Hey, McGinn has Agholor going top 15 and there's talk of DGB going before any other WR... so, nothing is a certainty because the talking heads say it is.


We are headed for an avatar bet.

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Post by Legacy User » Thu Apr 30, 2015 4:52 pm

My super dreaded scenario:

Kevin Johnson and Marcus Peters both on the board when we pick. We select Johnson.

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Post by bradshaw2ben » Thu Apr 30, 2015 5:05 pm

I'm not even suggesting White will be available.

However, for risk-averse teams, he might be lower on the board than some other names. One-year wonder. Mediocre technique. Limited route tree.

For instance, I think Devin Smith is a better bet and possibly a better NFL receiver, long-term. Kevin White has the potential to be All-Pro, so it's all about fit and what you seek in a WR.
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Post by tbsteel » Thu Apr 30, 2015 5:06 pm

I honestly don't think Peters will be available.
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