The Apocalypse is Coming

[Dan Smith--BYU]

Also, they are completely unfamiliar with the Bible and the history of the Ottoman empire and the 20th century. They don't know about Judea and Israel and how those were colonized by empire after empire forcing the Diaspora. Palestine was never a country. After the collapse of Ottomans, and formation of Israel, they were invited into Jordan then expelled when Arafat twice tried to assassinate the king. Unlike mommy and daddy's ancestors in Mass and Connecticut, Israel paid for the partitioned land in 1948 instead of breaking treaties with the natives. I guess they have no right to complain when the Pequots come in by paraglider,scalp Tanner and Biff, then rape Ashley. Fuckin colonizers, right?

[Deebo]

"You are forcing me to reexamine my financial support."

— Billionaire Ronald Lauder, a powerful financial backer of the University of Pennsylvania, threatening to cut off donations if the school doesn't do more to fight antisemitism. The university is facing backlash from several prominent donors after a Palestinian literary festival was held on campus last month featuring speakers who were "antisemitic and viscerally anti-Israel," Lauder said.

[Pabst]

Yesterday was a banner day for the Media and certain members of Congress.

That story about 500 people being killed in a hospital due to an Israeli airstrike? Turns out it was 100% bullshit.

[Pabst]

Since changed, but this was the New York Times front page earlier this morning. Please note:
- They uncritically repeated a Hamas claim, which has now been proven false
- The picture that accompanies the headline is not the hospital in question.




Meanwhile, here is an NBC reporter who covers "misinformation and extremism":



And here's Rashida Tlaib, who didn't say word for 3 days following the Hamas attack on Israel, immediately commenting on this story:
https://twitter.com/RashidaTlaib/status ... 2185191596



Anyway, please keep all of this in mind when the next time these exact same people cry about the dangers of misinformation online.

[Dan Smith--BYU]

NYT has been lying since Walter Duranty on Ukraine in the 1930s it is astounding that they are still respected.

[zeke5123]

Lit to be clear I didn’t mean the good for you sarcastically. I’ve gotten enough mealy mouthed emails from the places I went that I do appreciate what you said because it seems the position “Hamas is evil” is somehow a little brave in certain parts of the academy.

I didn’t take it that way at all.

RDS would be more palatable to me if his campaign had not been based on owning the libs. There is a way to lead culturally without demagoguing and RDS missed the target.

You better be careful about mentioning slave morality. STD claims he’s a Nietzsche expert.

Again, not to belabor the point but look at the media class that just jumped to support the Hamas claim that now appears to be not even close to correct. RDS is correct that our elite universities have a monoculture that is wrong, and that monoculture isn't stopping at the university but spreading from the university to other institutions. Fighting the culture war is necessary to fixing the institutions because at the end of the day while institutional design matters, so does institutional ideology.

[zeke5123]

Since changed, but this was the New York Times front page earlier this morning. Please note:
- They uncritically repeated a Hamas claim, which has now been proven false
- The picture that accompanies the headline is not the hospital in question.




Meanwhile, here is an NBC reporter who covers "misinformation and extremism":



And here's Rashida Tlaib, who didn't say word for 3 days following the Hamas attack on Israel, immediately commenting on this story:
https://twitter.com/RashidaTlaib/status ... 2185191596



Anyway, please keep all of this in mind when the next time these exact same people cry about the dangers of misinformation online.

The biggest purveyors of misinformation are the misinformation experts! Of course, misinformation is now shorthand for "statements the speaker disagrees with regardless of truth value."

Really is funny though that Mr. Collins states as fact the number of dead based solely on Hamas report. Looking today at the explosion it seems highly unlikely a tenth of the reported causalities occurred. It never occurred to this "expert" that inflating the number of dead might help Hamas.

[Pabst]

Really is funny though that Mr. Collins states as fact the number of dead based solely on Hamas report. Looking today at the explosion it seems highly unlikely a tenth of the reported causalities occurred. It never occurred to this "expert" that inflating the number of dead might help Hamas.

Also, as many people were pointing out yesterday, no one stopped to ask how Hamas officials were able to find 500 bodies within a few hours of the explosion? Normally it takes multiple days to sift through the rubble, but they somehow knew before sunrise.

[Dan Smith--BYU]

The NYT and MSM are truly scum, parroting Hamas propaganda without any attempt at verification. They will not apologize. If they were around in 1943, they would be debunking the existence of Auschwitz. It cannot be overstated how awful the character of US and leftist international journalists really are.

[Pabst]

So anyway.....we have riots going on across the globe based on false claims parroted by major media outlets and we have a member of Congress repeating these same false claims on the Capital steps while a riot is breaking out.


Some prominent folks in DC and elsewhere might want to issue a statement pretty soon or all that bluster about "insurrectionists" over the last 2 years is going to look awfully political.

[Deebo]

So anyway.....we have riots going on across the globe based on false claims parroted by major media outlets and we have a member of Congress repeating these same false claims on the Capital steps while a riot is breaking out.


Some prominent folks in DC and elsewhere might want to issue a statement pretty soon or all that bluster about "insurrectionists" over the last 2 years is going to look awfully political.

Gotta love the hypocrisy.

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https://www.nationalreview.com/corner/d ... l-bombing/

The National Security Council and the top Democrat and top Republican on the House intelligence committee said on Wednesday that intelligence showed Israel was not to blame.

House Democratic leaders affirmed that assessment on Wednesday, but they declined to call on Omar and Tlaib to retract their false claims blaming Israel for the deaths of 500 civilians.

Former Democratic House speaker Nancy Pelosi told National Review that “the intelligence said that there was no evidence that” Israel was behind the bombing. But when asked if members of the Democratic caucus should delete tweets blaming Israel, Pelosi said: “I don’t know who’s doing what. I really haven’t paid attention to other members.”

“I haven’t seen those comments,” Democratic leader Hakeem Jeffries told National Review after being informed that Tlaib and Omar had blamed Israel for the bombing.

Democratic congressman Ruben Gallego of Arizona, told National Review that he had “no information” on the bombing and said he needed more information before he could say if Omar and Tlaib should delete their tweets blaming Israel.

[Pabst]

Hey, speaking of signs of the apocalypse, you know who's made some great statements / shown real leadership over the past week?

John Fetterman

[Dan Smith--BYU]

Palestinian group insurrection takeover of Capitol but do you think for a moment that the Lits of the world will be consistent and fair?

https://www.breitbart.com/politics/2023 ... ington-dc/

Gotta jail those grandmas taking pictures but its all free speech for the new antisemitic left.

[Professor Half Wit]

Palestinian group insurrection takeover of Capitol but do you think for a moment that the Lits of the world will be consistent and fair?

https://www.breitbart.com/politics/2023 ... ington-dc/

Gotta jail those grandmas taking pictures but its all free speech for the new antisemitic left.

Maybe the Dans of the world need to ask if this post is fair.

It’s not my fault you joined team insurrection and now feel the need to rationalize Jan 6 and everything after.

Must be exhausting.

[Pabst]

Remember yesterday when the NYT was caught with egg on their face for repeating Hamas bullshit about an Israeli missile blowing up a hospital?
We've learned nothing, apparently.


https://twitter.com/katierogers/status/ ... 6064900477

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[Deebo]

Palestinian group insurrection takeover of Capitol but do you think for a moment that the Lits of the world will be consistent and fair?

https://www.breitbart.com/politics/2023 ... ington-dc/

Gotta jail those grandmas taking pictures but its all free speech for the new antisemitic left.

Maybe the Dans of the world need to ask if this post is fair.

It’s not my fault you joined team insurrection and now feel the need to rationalize Jan 6 and everything after.

Must be exhausting.

Doesn't necessarily sound like "rationalizing". More along the lines of: why aren't people who intentionally spread falsehoods publicly, not rightfully being skewered for doing that when prior instances have received a strong rebuke?

[Pabst]

NBC also now verbatim quoting Hamas less than 2 days after having a story blow up in their face (no pun intended)

[Dan Smith--BYU]

They will never learn anything. It's almost as if they hate Jews and are sympatico with Hamas' goals. And there are enough self-loathing Jews in the press and Dem party to go along with it.

Why is MTG the one bringing up Pig Tlaib's repulsive behavior and lies and Capitol incitement instead of Jerry Nadler? You would be inclined to think that maybe leftism rather than Judaism is his real religion.

[ol skool]

What's the lie? That Israel bombed the hospital? The death toll? Both?

It's possible to know how many people would've been in there on average. Is that the reasoning behind "500 Dead" without having recovered all of them from the rubble?

That's sloppy reporting, but that's practically the only kind of reporting going on at the moment.

If only 50 were killed, is that justified?

If it's justified (which requires that Israel did it), why lie about it?

I do know that I've seen the explosion, and neither Hamas, Palestinian Islamic Jihad, or Hezbollah has rockets that can do that. Looks more like a JDAM. So I'm not buying for a second the idea that the Palestinians did this themselves - on purpose or on accident.

[Pabst]

What's the lie? That Israel bombed the hospital? The death toll? Both?

It's possible to know how many people would've been in there on average. Is that the reasoning behind "500 Dead" without having recovered all of them from the rubble?

Both.

- It was a misfired rocket from PIJ. This literally happens all the time: https://www.nbcnews.com/news/world/live ... rcna120978

- Here's the hospital complex as of yesterday - there is no rubble to sift through: https://twitter.com/AGHamilton29/status ... 04/photo/1

[ol skool]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HGG8R8t7cCo

This is an airstrike; not the type of rocket Hamas, PIJ, and Hezbollah have. Looks and sounds exactly like a JDAM.

[jebrick]

Since changed, but this was the New York Times front page earlier this morning. Please note:
- They uncritically repeated a Hamas claim, which has now been proven false
- The picture that accompanies the headline is not the hospital in question.




Meanwhile, here is an NBC reporter who covers "misinformation and extremism":



And here's Rashida Tlaib, who didn't say word for 3 days following the Hamas attack on Israel, immediately commenting on this story:
https://twitter.com/RashidaTlaib/status ... 2185191596



Anyway, please keep all of this in mind when the next time these exact same people cry about the dangers of misinformation online.

Perhaps they reported it this way because an advisor to Netanyahu said in a now deleted tweet the the air force had bombed an Hamas base inside a hospital.



Try to seperate Hamas from the Palistianians. Hammas is a terriorist organization like ISIS. The Palistianians are folks being used as human shields.

[Stlcrtn1974]

Can't wait for A.I. videos to stoke more chaos in the future acrossthe globe. Remember Ben Richard's, the butcher of Bakersfield. We are heading towards a world like that, the end may be near.

[Deebo]

Can't wait for A.I. videos to stoke more chaos in the future acrossthe globe. Remember Ben Richard's, the butcher of Bakersfield. We are heading towards a world like that, the end may be near.

Funny you say that. Article this morning:

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"Behind the Curtain" is a new column by Axios CEO Jim VandeHei and co-founder Mike Allen, based on regular conversations with White House and congressional leaders, CEOs, and top technologists.
Never before have we talked to so many top government officials who, in private, are so worried about so many overseas conflicts at once.
Why it matters: We don't like to sound dire. But to sound a siren of clinical, clear-eyed realism: U.S. officials say this confluence of crises poses epic concern and historic danger.
Behind the scenes: Officials tell us that inside the White House, this was the heaviest, most chilling week since President Biden took office just over 1,000 days ago.
• Former Defense Secretary Bob Gates tells us America is facing the most crises since World War II ended 78 years ago.
Not one of the crises can be solved and checked off. All five could spiral into something much bigger:
1. Israel's response to the Hamas terrorist attack, and growing fear of a spreading war that reaches to Iran and beyond. Officials point to the protests, threats and deadly, anti-American warnings of Arab nations after they thought — incorrectly — Israel struck a hospital in Gaza, killing hundreds. This is a preview of what they fully expect will be a worldwide response to the expected Israeli invasion of Gaza.
• The U.S. is deploying two aircraft carriers to the region. A U.S. Navy destroyer yesterday shot down missiles from Yemen that appeared headed toward Israel. U.S. troops were fired on this week by drones in Syria and Iraq.
2. Vladimir Putin meeting in China this week with Xi Jinping to further strengthen their anti-America alliance. In a new Foreign Affairs article that top officials are sharing, Gates argues that both leaders believe America and other big democracies "are past their prime and have entered an irreversible decline." Putin and Xi sniff weakness and are activating on many fronts, top administration officials tell us.
• This Reuters headline says it all: "Russia says it is coordinating Middle East policy with China."
3. A malicious Iran. It's unclear how involved Iran was in orchestrating or assisting the Hamas terrorist attack — but officials seem certain there are ties. More worrisome: U.S. officials fear Hezbollah — a much bigger terrorist group than Hamas, funded by Iran — will strike the moment Israel gets stuck in Gaza.
• Biden said last night in his Oval Office address: "Iran is supporting Russia in Ukraine, and it's supporting Hamas and other terrorist groups in the region."
4. Then there's the unhinged leader of North Korea, Kim Jong Un, and his frequent testing of long-range, nuclear-capable missiles. As Gates points out, Russia, China, Iran and North Korea combined will have twice as many nuclear weapons as America in two years.
5. A new weapon is being deployed in all these conflicts: a massive spread of doctored or wholly fake videos to manipulate what people see and think in real time. The architects of these new technologies, in background conversations with us after demonstrating new capabilities soon to be released, say even the sharpest eyes looking for fake videos will have an impossible time detecting what's real. (We'll have a column coming soon to Go Deeper on this topic).
• Fake video, on top of bots (fake people) and fake written content, is being used aggressively by all anti-American actors, intelligence officials say. Some experts estimate that more than 90% of content on the internet will soon be fake or manipulated.

First Lady Jill Biden and counselor Steve Ricchetti watch as President Biden speaks from the Oval Office last night. Photo: Andrew Harnik/AP
What scares officials is how all five threats could fuse into one.
• The State Department yesterday issued a rare "Worldwide Caution," warning U.S. travelers abroad of "increased tensions in various locations around the world" that raise "the potential for terrorist attacks, demonstrations or violent actions against U.S. citizens and interests."
These simultaneous threats are hitting at the very moment the American political system seems — and sometimes is — literally broken.
• It's not just that Republicans don't have a House speaker and can't seem to elect one, or that we might shut down the government in the middle of this mess, or that we're hurtling toward another toxic presidential election in which big chunks of both parties want different candidates.
• Former top intelligence officials tell us domestic unrest is one of their biggest fears — whether it's triggered by court rulings against former President Trump or protests over war in the Middle East. Biden allies frame these flare-ups as a reminder that global chaos requires calm and experience. "With age comes wisdom," Ron Klain, Biden's first chief of staff, told us.
But there has been a total collapse of people's trust in the opposing party, the media, what they see or share on social platforms, and even the top-secret intelligence the government relies on to measure these threats.
• This, as much as the five individual threats above, is what worries officials. They know things could get worse — fast — and require tough actions — fast. And no one knows whether Congress or the public could unite in an emergency.
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[Pabst]

Perhaps they reported it this way because an advisor to Netanyahu said in a now deleted tweet the the air force had bombed an Hamas base inside a hospital.

Try to seperate Hamas from the Palistianians. Hammas is a terriorist organization like ISIS. The Palistianians are folks being used as human shields.

Agree on #2, but the problem is that (especially in a war) it's easier said than done.

On #1, calling that guy an "advisor to Netanyahu" is a stretch at best: https://www.politifact.com/article/2023 ... ael-is-re/

He apparently worked for Netanyahu as a social media campaigner ~5 years ago, but he's not a part of the Israeli government or Netanyahu's staff in any capacity.

[Stosh-67]

Yesterday was a banner day for the Media and certain members of Congress.

That story about 500 people being killed in a hospital due to an Israeli airstrike? Turns out it was 100% bullshit.

Exactly why the ratings for CNN, MSNBC have tanked the last few years.
And those networks started purging hosts and commentators.

[Pabst]

Yesterday was a banner day for the Media and certain members of Congress.

That story about 500 people being killed in a hospital due to an Israeli airstrike? Turns out it was 100% bullshit.

Exactly why the ratings for CNN, MSNBC have tanked the last few years.
And those networks started purging hosts and commentators.

Even giving them the benefit of the doubt, they ran a front page story based entirely on the word of a terrorist organization and a tweet from a former Netanyahu campaigner?

[Stosh-67]

Since changed, but this was the New York Times front page earlier this morning. Please note:
- They uncritically repeated a Hamas claim, which has now been proven false
- The picture that accompanies the headline is not the hospital in question.




Meanwhile, here is an NBC reporter who covers "misinformation and extremism":



And here's Rashida Tlaib, who didn't say word for 3 days following the Hamas attack on Israel, immediately commenting on this story:
https://twitter.com/RashidaTlaib/status ... 2185191596



Anyway, please keep all of this in mind when the next time these exact same people cry about the dangers of misinformation online.

Perhaps they reported it this way because an advisor to Netanyahu said in a now deleted tweet the the air force had bombed an Hamas base inside a hospital.



Try to seperate Hamas from the Palistianians. Hammas is a terriorist organization like ISIS. The Palistianians are folks being used as human shields.

And how far The Times has fallen..........with trash, irresponsible headlines like this.
The first story is always the most damaging, true or false.
Accusations are 2x, 3x more powerful than finding out the truth after the fact.........which become page 4 or 5 news.
How many people in this country, around the world became enraged, expressed hatred for Israel, screamed, yelled, protested, etc, after seeing these reports by the Times and MSM.

The Times has some nice articles on alot of topics, music, sports, science, entertainment, architecture, etc......
But their political angle has become so distorted and partisan.....its shameful.

You would think they would learn after all the examples of running with a headline, a narrative, and jamming it down peoples throats, as well as quickly squashing and censoring stories..........before the facts proved otherwise.
-Russia Collusion - not true, and no consequences
-Nick Sandman - kid didn't do boo
-Rittenhouse - defended himself
-The Biden Laptop - all true and even worse
-Hilliarys email - true, but no consequences
-The 50 top intelligence officials - no consequences.
-the perfect phone call - the truth about the Biden Crime family
-Jessie Smolet- shameless support of a hoax that just stoked race relations.
-Border cover up - No problem at the border, until it became a problem in people back yards
-The "mostly peaceful" protest - i.e. mass thefts, fires. violence, deadly and destructive
-The Jan 6th bashing a mans head in with a fire extinguisher..... I believe the man had a stroke.

The list is long.

[Pabst]

This is a bit of a rant.....

Someone made this observation a while back: Pick any mainstream news outlet you'd like (NPR, PBS, CNN, Network News, NYT, WaPo, etc.). Don't look at it in terms of Repulican/Democrat or Conservative/Liberal, but ask yourself this - How many of the reporters and/or staffers at these organizations are Trump Voters? Evangelical Christians? Own a gun / pro 2a? Are pro-life?

Each one of those represents 25-50% of the American electorate, and I'd be floored if there's more than a token member of each group in a typical newsroom.....and that's the problem. These orgs made a huge effort to create newsrooms that *looked* like America, but they failed miserably at creating a newsroom that *thought/acted/voted* like America. It has, in turn, led to major blindspots in how news is covered. That's how mistakes like Stosh listed keep occurring, and why 95% of major errors in media coverage come down on one side.

I've been saying this for years: Fox News and talk radio are not the cause of mistrust in media, they are the result of mistrust in media.

[Stosh-67]

Palestinian group insurrection takeover of Capitol but do you think for a moment that the Lits of the world will be consistent and fair?

https://www.breitbart.com/politics/2023 ... ington-dc/

Gotta jail those grandmas taking pictures but its all free speech for the new antisemitic left.

It takes time for the DOJ / FBI to investigate this take over of a government building - fedral house in Wash. DC., to look at the evidence, ID these folks, interrogate, etc....before handing down 5, 10 15-20 years sentences.