955876 wrote: ↑Sun Nov 05, 2023 9:15 pm
jebrick wrote: ↑Thu Nov 02, 2023 1:06 pm
zeke5123 wrote: ↑Wed Nov 01, 2023 10:31 am
To be clear, J6 was gross and a riot. Easy to condemn. At the same time, zero cops died because of J6.
Also the democrats basically did a soft coup against Trump. What do you think the #resistance was? What do you think russiagate nonsense was? Flynn? Comey trap? Mueller? Idea is clog up his admin dealing with BS so he couldn’t get things done.
Wwwwhat? How was Trump prevented from getting anything done? Are you saying that Biden is prevented from getting anything done because of the investigations? Investigations happen to all Presidents. Perhaps Trump was unprepared for the office and did not have any policy ready? Perhaps he relied on the Congress to make policy for him and they were unable to do anything because they have a caucus that want to burn the government down?
Do you need reminded that the GOP owned the Congress and White House for 2 years? They could pass anything they wanted but choose to just push through a tax cut and judges. Trump could have done infrastructure. The Dems said they would help him do infrastructure. He could have cut the cost for seniors drug prices. The Dems said they would help with that. Those were campaign promises he made.
There was no "soft coup" other than bad press for Trump and the GOP which cost them on the midterms. It is the same "soft coup" that happens to all Presidents and it is called politics and elections.
Woah now. I’ve been trying g to stay out of these threads but there is just so much wrong with this.
I’ll start with the bolded part first. There was no “soft coup”?
Really?
So having a political opponent create bogus information and then use that information to lie to FISA courts in order to spy on a campaign AND THEN use that illegal spying to claim they had hard evidence that Trump was a compromised Russian asset which was then used to launch a special counsel with the purpose of removing him from office wasn’t a “soft coup” and “happens to all presidents”?
Really?
Please cite the many examples you must have of this happening to “all presidents”.
And Trump actually did get some things done.
- moved US Embassy in Israel to Jerusalem as he said he would. Something countless other US Presidents said they’d do and said should happen but never did.
- rightfully pulled us out of the awful Paris Climate Accords. Not because the climate is t important but because it was garbage legislation that had the American taxpayer footing the bill for other countries climate stuff. It isn’t my personal responsibility (nor is it yours) to fund climate initiatives around the globe while other countries continue to pollute at will while also not paying their “fair share”.
- was building a border wall while implementing policy that had illegal entry into the country at the lowest level it had been in quite some time.
- urged Europe to decouple from its dependency on Russian oil & gas.
- lowered taxes for Americans. And not just those at the top. The tax cuts with the greatest decline occurred at the lower brackets.
- was nominated for Nobel Prize for work on the Abraham Accords.
- was putting the American tax payer first for a change.
- did not get us into any wars on his watch like many said he would.
- helped America achieve energy independence.
- signed 3 bills to help benefit native Americans.
- signed a law to make cruelty to animals a federal felony
- signed law ending gag orders on Pharmacists that prevented them from sharing money saving info.
- signed bills to help fight sex trafficking
- signed the Save Our Seas Act
- signed executive order that forces health care providers to disclose cost of their services
- signed the “First Step Act” which helps inmates successfully return to society as well as addressing inequities in sentencing that disproportionately harmed black Americans
- poverty rates fell to 17 year lows under Trump
- Poverty rates for blacks & Hispanics reached their lowest levels since the U.S. began collecting such data.
- Committed $124 million to rebuild rural water infrastructure
- Appointed 5 openly gay ambassadors
- Isis lost nearly all its territory under Trump.
- Sanctions against Iran had that country at the breaking point
- imposed sanctions on Venezuela
- made deal with the EU to increase US energy exports to Europe.
- stock market reached record highs and economy was booming. Up until a man made virus was released into the world and power hungry Dems demanded the economy get shut down.
- median household income hit its highest level ever.
Those are but a few things that was accomplished. All while fighting a special counsel based on fabricated info.
Now lemme guess, you like the way things are now vs then right?
Now maybe I’m wrong but the many Dems I deal with in life if asked would say without hesitation oh yes things are certainly better now than under Trump.
Are they though?
- millions upon millions of illegals migrants have invaded the country and drained resources. So much so that sanctuary city Dems are begging for help and now saying we need to finish the border wall.
- inflation at 40 year highs
- US no longer energy independent and begs the Saudis and Venezuela to pump more dirty oil.
- high oil prices have Putin the $$ he needed to invade Ukraine.
- not enforcing sanctions gave Iran money it needed to fund Hamas and Hezbollah.
- we now have two wars going fehen there were none under Trump.
-China is most certainly eyeing Taiwan.
-Fentanyl deaths continue to climb
- crime is climbing so much that major retailers are leaving urban areas in droves.
- antisemitism is rising while members of our own government are supporting the disgusting actions of murderous terrorist.
I could go on.
Now tell me how the world is better now than it was then….
Thats a long list....... and i am sure there is more to add to that.
How different this world is from 3 years ago.....
Is it 78-80% of polls say that the country is heading in the wrong direction?
Who the hell is in that other 20-22%?
Big tech, cushy millionaires, rich politicians, big tech, MSM.....that is not effected by much.
Hello, WTF up.
3 years is a short time.....but,
The difference is blinding............and if its not blinding to some or many.....
Then blind loyalty is certainly the bigger issue.
Its insane what we spend at the grocery store these days, at the pumps, at home improvement store, on home maintenance.
On heating bills, electric bills......
it is so much more expensive to dine out.
to travel.....as tolls have gone up in NJ 30-40% in a few years.
more overnight trips than 3-4 to 7 day trips.
my 401k is still down 15-20% ( devastating for those that want to retire )
I save less and spend more.
I put home repairs off, push them down the road.
I have never dipped into savings more the last 2 years than in the last 20-25 years.
I feel bad for this generation that is trying to start a family, buy a home.
I bought a home in December of 2019. My mortgage rate is 2.85%
My son started looking for homes, the 30 year rate is 8.01 to 8.25%
To borrow $300,000 at 8.2% will cost $811,440 over 30 years.
To borrow $300,000 at 2.85%...4 years ago will cost $448,920 over 30 years.
Hence, it now costs $362,000 more to borrow $300 k than it did in 3-4 years ago.
That's insane.
My son paused his search for a home and now is renting a 2 bedroom apartment for $2,200 a month.
After 12 months..... he will pay $26,000 in rent....rather than towards a mortgage.
None of my reply above is right wing talking points, conspiracy theory, exaggeration, hysteria, etc....
I did not even get into the elimination of women sports, to even removing the word women,
I did not mention the "word police", changing and eliminating words, the "ministry of information"
The ordering of social media to crush and remove opposing opinions and opposing views.....
The school board failures,
Falling grades,
Add in the fact that we are living in the most violent time of our lives, in which violence and crime is running rampant......
The number ONE priority for a government is to keep their people safe, provide a safe and civil environment.
We could not living in a more dangerous United States.
This administration and party has failed miserable at soo many things.
The most destructive and punishing administration of our lives.
And I am afraid that the worst is yet to come.....as the full effects of bad policy, soft on crime, pro-theft, open borders, defund police, hate speech, promoting violence to combat differing opinions, etc. etc. etc.....has yet to fully erupt.
I hope this next election people vote with common sense, for the well being and safety of their future and siblings rather than voting for a party.
Your party has gone rabid. Lost its mind. Its like a drug addiction, its a dependency, its a cult.
Yet 60 million will once again, march to the polls again and vote for Joe Biden......while he babbling nonsensical words, led to and fro a podium, falling over and shitting his pants, while continuing to pad his wallet and set up his family for ever, thru his corrupt money laundering business.
Madness.