TJ Watt

[Vertical Steel]

Not cool man. I can't see either of those.

[Defense]

Regardless of the LB position he was tagged with as a player, I really see him as a Brett Keisel 2.0
only better...

Great pick ... maybe. Solid pick - Yes.

[Legacy User]

i'm confused by the notion that Watt won't (can't?) have an immediate impact, but also by the idea that it's hard to find a player who can at #30, as if we didn't get 3 quality starters from last year's draft

as has already been mentioned, who exactly is his competition?

[Legacy User]

I would use him like they did Timmons his first year.

Let Williams play 1st and 2nd down, then bring Watt in on A gap blitz and stunts.

[steelclan]

Here is a breakdown of his sacks:

http://www.steelersdepot.com/2017/04/video-wisconsin-edge-t-j-watt-sack-compilation-highlights/

He got a ton a bunch of pressures in College as well. Overall as I said last night content with pick. Watt should get more explosive as he thinks less on his feet and just plays. Even in this sack breakdown you can see when he knows exactly what he is doing pre snap he looks very, very good. The problem is in film not of highlights he is hesitant and slow to react. That should get better with time but don't be shocked if Deer in headlights occurs year 1 quite frequently.

PS: Yeah I know Depot sucks analysis wise but they do decent job posting tape etc.

[Legacy User]

Post R1 Tombert presser

http://www.steelers.com/videos/videos/T ... f19427aa73

Colbert starts things off with a shit-eating grin on his face. Looks pretty pleased with himself.

[Legacy User]

Here is a breakdown of his sacks:

http://www.steelersdepot.com/2017/04/video-wisconsin-edge-t-j-watt-sack-compilation-highlights/

He got a ton a bunch of pressures in College as well. Overall as I said last night content with pick. Watt should get more explosive as he thinks less on his feet and just plays. Even in this sack breakdown you can see when he knows exactly what he is doing pre snap he looks very, very good. The problem is in film not of highlights he is hesitant and slow to react. That should get better with time but don't be shocked if Deer in headlights occurs year 1 quite frequently.

PS: Yeah I know Depot sucks analysis wise but they do decent job posting tape etc.

I like me some Alex Kozara.

[Legacy User]

I don't hate the puck, don't love it.

To me positive is never hurts to add good football players and Watt will surely be at minimum a good D player.

Negatives to me is they took another fucking OLB tweener. Belicheck has given us 15 years of proof that these types of players can do nothing to slow down his O. Maybe butler/Tomlin will do new things with watt.

But watt seems to be a team captain kinda kid so that part I like.

[Legacy User]

Extremely happy with the pick. Has all the tools to succeed and a nonstop motor, along with the pedigree.

I love that he can develop while Deebo is still here and should get on the field pretty quickly at the very least in certain situations.

Draft fell well for us, with 3 picks hoping for Secondary/ILB help and/or maybe one on offense from WR/RB/TE.
There are still a ton of great prospects available for our picks tonight:

Kevin King CB,
Quincy Wilson CB,
Chidobe Awuzie CB,
Cam Sutton CB,
Fabian Moreau CB,
Jalen Myrick CB,
Cordrea Tankersley CB,
Josh Jones S,
Obi Melifonwu S,
Justin Evans S,
Budda Baker S,
Marcus Maye S,
Marcus Williams S,
Desmond King DB,
Raekwon McMillan ILB,
Zach Cunningham ILB,
Duke Riley ILB,
Kendell Beckwith ILB,
Alex Anzalone ILB,
Derek Rivers LB, (After getting Watt, Rivers not likely but who knows)
Vince Biegel LB
Chris Wormley DE,
Tanoh Kpassagnon DE,
Daeshon Hall DE,
Chris Godwin WR,
JuJu Smith-Schuster WR,
Josh Reynolds WR,
Alvin Kamara RB,
Dalvin Cook RB,
Samaje Perine RB
Adam Shaheen, TE,
Jordan Leggett TE
Forrest Lamp G, (I know we won't go OL early if at all, but he is hard to pass up this guy, can't believe is didn't go Rd 1)

[DP39]

From reading this thread I'm going to assume the fan base will soon drop the J from our draft pick's name...

It could be worse, we could be hearing about Takk's dead grandma and what he plays for over the next 5 years.

I can't believe no one has commented on this. He is forever dubbed...Sir TWatt-a-lot.

After seeing Takk on the national stage last night it confirmed my gut feelings about him as a player/person off the field. So glad he wasn't our pick.

Sir TWatt-a-lot was a good pick. He may also be known as White-Chocolate or Kool-Whip on the triple layer chocolate cake known as our defense.....only time will tell. Big Red can be the cherry on top!

Oh yeah, forgot, Chickillo could be Milk-Chocolate, not sure though, he might be Vanilla-Bean. Have to check his papers.

There you go, I think I've offended everyone/race know.

What will round two bring to the PC table here at SF?....

[Legacy User]

From reading this thread I'm going to assume the fan base will soon drop the J from our draft pick's name...

It could be worse, we could be hearing about Takk's dead grandma and what he plays for over the next 5 years.

I can't believe no one has commented on this. He is forever dubbed...Sir TWatt-a-lot.

After seeing Takk on the national stage last night it confirmed my gut feelings about him as a player/person off the field. So glad he wasn't our pick.

Sir TWatt-a-lot was a good pick. He may also be known as White-Chocolate or Kool-Whip on the triple layer chocolate cake known as our defense.....only time will tell. Big Red can be the cherry on top!

Oh yeah, forgot, Chickillo could be Milk-Chocolate, not sure though, he might be Vanilla-Bean. Have to check his papers.

There you go, I think I've offended everyone/race know.

What will round two bring to the PC table here at SF?....

Check your pm.

[franco32]

To think, we could have had this:

[franco32]

I've watched a lot of Watt tape over the last few months because I could see how giddy Tomlin and Colbert were with him at the combine and pro day. The guy is a freakish athlete. That play in the Purdue game where he jumps up and in one motion bats the ball and catches it for the INT return is awesome.

His pass rush repertoire is pretty good already. He gets the edge primarily by using a push pull technique that seems to work well. His hand placement on the pass rush is exceptional...doesn't hurt he has 11" hands I'd like to see him work on his inside moves more as well as developing a spin move. There is a lot of upside there. If I were him, the first thing I would do is get on Deebo's squat program. If he continues to add muscle to his lower body, he could be unstoppable.

One thing I find odd is some of the posters that say he can't or won't drop in coverage. Wisconsin has him dropping a TON. He was covering TEs, RBs, and even slot receivers pretty regularly (and often very well I might add). That's what surprised me in the film study. I didn't expect that level of ability for a guy with such little experience at the position. I think his TE days of route running really help him in coverage. He's a definite upgrade over Deebo or Dupree in coverage.

With the pure garbage we have at OLB, it wouldn't surprise me if he gets over 50% of the snaps by year end.

[Defense]

To think, we could have had this:

HAHAHAHAHA !!!
Good one.

I could not believe my eyes when he was on stage ...looks like a nut job !

[Old School Steeler]

Watt will not allow himself to be a liability. He's an ingredient in building a solid, playoff D. Ingredients work together, I think we'll see him outside and inside and another front 7 ingredient who will also be inside and outside is coming today. We did not hurt ourselves. Only those that vetted him are qualified to speculate if he might have the intangibles and that committee has recently been on game.

After deserved tribute to Rooney Rule creator we draft a white kid. Dismissing both racism and PC as damaging bullshit I found that funny. PC is slowly destroying comedy; I'm fighting that.

[COR-TEN]

You guys are way better at evaluating college talent, but Watt looks like NFL linemen are going to swallow him whole. That's not to say he can't bulk up. But he does have a powerful lower half. Half of his highlights, like any other college player, have more to do with an opponent that made wrong decisions. The ill advised throw that caused the pick6 is one. I take those highlights with a giant grain of salt.

I also wonder if he'll be productive from day one. Steelers need edge rushers NOW!! Not next year. As athletic as he is, he's still not physically ready for a 16 game nfl season. See Dupree, but having football smarts is a value that offsets his lack of strength.

Having a brother that excels can have a negative effect as well. As long as he knows who he is and what he can do, its all good. If he tries to emulate his older brother, expect mixed results.

[Legacy User]

As long as he doesn't absolutely suck he'll be a fan favorite forever because he's white, is a linebacker, played at a Big Ten school, and his brother is good.

He will also be known as a "try hard guy" "ham n egger" no matter how athletic he is or what numbers he's put up in the combine...because he is white.

Not from me-- he's way more athlete than football player. The football player part of his game is hustle. Fans are going to love his motor and the fact that he can run. Even STD will calm the fuck down at some point and feel good about it, once the rest of the draft unfolds and he has about 6 months to get over it.

None of that changes the fact that what 43 said is also correct. Fans who don't know shit will love this pick, and mostly for the reason he stated.

I hope to

Alot depends on the rest of the draft

If they take Kizer in the 2nd I will fly to LA and throw your TV out the window

Lol

[FortyThree]

yeah, big ten champions, The best conference in college football last year top to bottom. How's Pitt been doing?

You mean other than consistently bearing Penn State head-to-head and not covering up child rape?

[jeemie]

yeah, big ten champions, The best conference in college football last year top to bottom. How's Pitt been doing?

You mean other than consistently bearing Penn State head-to-head and not covering up child rape?

Um...last year was the first year Pitt played Penn State since 2000.

How do you get "consistently" from a sample size of one?

If you go back a little further...Penn State has won 9 of the last 13 matchups.

29 of Pitt's 43 wins in the series came before 1949, so since 1950, Penn State's record against Pitt is 32-14-2.

Math isn't your strong suit, is it?

[FortyThree]

None of that changes the fact that what 43 said is also correct. Fans who don't know shit will love this pick, and mostly for the reason he stated.

Thank you for summing up my point better than I did.

[FortyThree]

yeah, big ten champions, The best conference in college football last year top to bottom. How's Pitt been doing?

You mean other than consistently bearing Penn State head-to-head and not covering up child rape?

Um...last year was the first year Pitt played Penn State since 2000.

How do you get "consistently" from a sample size of one?

If you go back a little further...Penn State has won 9 of the last 13 matchups.

29 of Pitt's 43 wins in the series came before 1949, so since 1950, Penn State's record against Pitt is 32-14-2.

Math isn't your strong suit, is it?

2-0 in their last 2 games.

[jeemie]

None of that changes the fact that what 43 said is also correct. Fans who don't know shit will love this pick, and mostly for the reason he stated.

Thank you for summing up my point better than I did.

Maybe you should say "fans from Pittsburgh will love him for those reasons fortythree stated".

I don't know jack shit, but I will neither love Watt nor hate him for those reasons.

[jeemie]

2-0 in their last 2 games.

RIIIIGHT...because a sample size of 2 is also a good one from which to tell consistency.

You had a nice "oh snap" with the covering up rape story...just own it that you overreached with the on-the-field performance and fucked it up.

[FortyThree]

Nah I think the fact that you actually thought I was serious and got upset over it is funny enough that I'll just blame it on my Penn State education.

[R_S]

fortythree, consistently a dumbass today. 2 for 2.

[Legacy User]

I know a bit more than shit, and I love the pick. If you like or dislike the pick based on his skin color you're an ignorant fuck.

[tbsteel]

It is a little weird to talk about a white player with high level athleticism and upside lol.

[Legacy User]

It is a little weird to talk about a white player with high level athleticism and upside lol.

Its true, white guys can jump too Watt, McCafferey to name 2 ..and we ourselves just witnessed 4 years of a slow completely unathletic black guy like Jervis.

[Legacy User]

To think, we could have had this:

HAHAHAHAHA !!!
Good one.

I could not believe my eyes when he was on stage ...looks like a nut job !

One of most bizarre outbursts I've ever seen in sports, let alone at the NFL Draft.

If you are the Falcons war room watching that tirade you have to be shaking your head asking "what the fuck did we just do?"

[Legacy User]

It is a little weird to talk about a white player with high level athleticism and upside lol.

Salami was a decent bball player on the White Shadow.