After Goodell's Latest Words, Will A Team Hire Kaepernick?

[Texas Black & Gold]

The issue with Kaepernick is that he's now a polarizing figure. I think in some markets signing him would make sense while others could turn out to be a disaster. And I'm not talking about on field production, I'm talking about acceptance by the fan bases. I don't believe Pittsburgh to be a very accepting fan base. I've sat in the nose bleeds and some of the things I've heard appalled me. We have a very backwards thinking fan base in my opinion. It'd be another Kordell situation.

I agree that CK is a polarizing figure. But if there is any organization that could absorb the controversy I think it would be Pittsburgh. They have a strong organization, history (Tomlin, Vick etc.) and respected progressive ownership. They could possibly gain as many fans as they lose. My preference would be the less drama the better. Seems to me that all this talk about CK playing in the NFL is coming from everyone except CK. The last I heard is that he doesn't want to play as a backup and he turned down a spot with Denver. It would be interesting to hear one way or the other from CK if he is or is not interested.

[Jobu]

They have a strong organization, history (Tomlin, Vick etc.) and respected progressive ownership.

What???

[jebrick]

They have a strong organization, history (Tomlin, Vick etc.) and respected progressive ownership.

What???

Progressive for minority hiring

[Texas Black & Gold]

They have a strong organization, history (Tomlin, Vick etc.) and respected progressive ownership.

What???

Progressive for minority hiring

Yes and generally on social issues.

[Donnie Brasco]

Where did Kaep say he didn't want to be a backup? Recently. I found this :

According to Christian Datoc of the Daily Caller, the former San Francisco 49ers quarterback doesn't want "backup money" and turned down at least one deal.

However, TMZ reported Tuesday that this was incorrect. "Colin never had any talks about any contract or any money," a source in his inner circle told TMZ.

Daily Caller? Yeah, right. Ok. Sounds a lot like a political smear. And it keeps being repeated, even if it's not true. But I did find this :

According to Smith, Kaepernick didn’t even want to be a starting quarterback. The sports commentator says he spoke with Kaepernick’s girlfriend, Nessa Diab, last week. According to Smith, Diab told him that Kaep would be open to a backup job.

Various articles I found said he's willing to be a backup. Yet the meme keeps getting repeated that he wants to start, and has commitment issues. All of which seem to be incorrect. This isn't about his football ability. People will look wherever they can to discredit him. Be it politically, motivational issues, statistics, or money. It's about his perspective on law enforcement and the made up narrative about disrespecting the military and the "flag."

I'll bet he'd play wherever, even as a camp arm battling for #2. On a shitty team.

Why doesn't Kap just come out and state what he wants? You've referenced where he's talked to a reporter then it was his gf. Both are 2nd hand information. No direct quotes from the man himself.

That's another reason teams are shying away from him. Seems like he intentionally plays this cloak and dagger game. Then when he doesn't get what he wants he's able to use it to support his narrative.

No reporter has asked him the following questions:
1. Is he ok w/ a backup position?
2. What are his contract demands?

Until then it's all this conjecture and misinformation.

[Donnie Brasco]

https://www.tmz.com/2020/06/08/colin-ka ... r-goodell/

Also regarding the "out of football thing" so he is no longer skilled enough.

Michael Vick was out of football for two years.

Que the "Three is greater than two" responses.

Yea and Vick sucked a fat dick when he came back

[rooneytunes]

https://www.tmz.com/2020/06/08/colin-ka ... r-goodell/

Also regarding the "out of football thing" so he is no longer skilled enough.

Michael Vick was out of football for two years.

Que the "Three is greater than two" responses.

Yea and Vick sucked a fat dick when he came back

He sucked 6 fat dicks on this night

https://youtu.be/mSLWk0q_vu8

[Donnie Brasco]

https://www.tmz.com/2020/06/08/colin-ka ... r-goodell/

Also regarding the "out of football thing" so he is no longer skilled enough.

Michael Vick was out of football for two years.

Que the "Three is greater than two" responses.

Yea and Vick sucked a fat dick when he came back

He sucked 6 fat dicks on this night

https://youtu.be/mSLWk0q_vu8

I thought you were referencing when he came back and signed with Steelers

[Jobu]

What???

Progressive for minority hiring

Yes and generally on social issues.

Ahh...OK, got it on the minority hiring, but not social issues. The Steelers avoid social issues like the plague.
Which is why there Is no chance they sign CK.

[blu]

I think that if the Steelers would want to sign CK that Roger Goodell would find an exception for the cap space. I just want a QB on the roster who could come in & win if Ben gets hurt in some manner or otherwise falters. CK should only be a minor distraction if any as most if not all players will be kneeling during the anthem in the NFL in 2020.

[Jobu]

I think that if the Steelers would want to sign CK that Roger Goodell would find an exception for the cap space.

There is absolutely no way in hell this happens.

[Stosh-67]

I think that if the Steelers would want to sign CK that Roger Goodell would find an exception for the cap space.

There is absolutely no way in hell this happens.

I would not be suprised.
The Pandering Meter has been red lining the last few weeks.

[zeke5123]

I think Vick is a fair pull. As noted, 2 is different than 3. Also, he didn’t get on the field much in his first year back. Wasn’t until his second year when he really took off.

Also fair to note that Vick was not just a first rounder but number 1 overall. Slightly different pedigree there.

[Stosh-67]

I do not think his whole heart is into playing QB in the NFL.

That being said, he is no doubt better than MC and Duck.

I have said it in other CK threads before, his talent and numbers, duel threat, certainly place him as a top 64 QB, top 50?
Top 32? Can he actually start for some team? Maybe.
Should he be on an NFl roster?

32 NFL teams. 3 QB's per team = 96 rostered QB's.
Even if every team does not carry 3 QB's and there are 80 QB's on NFL roster.

I dare you to list the other 79 QB's better than CK.

A career 72-30 TD to INT rate does not lie.
Yes, his 28-30 career win loss record is not great, but put him on a team ready to compete for a SB and the 28-30 could be a 10-6 or 11-5 season.

The big problem is will he derail the team chemistry, will he create a circus in the locker room, will he have 2 dozen reporters at his locker stall after each game, each practice. The Steelers for one, have had our share of media distractions the last few years.

Hopefully, this is the season that all of the distractions are behind us and the P.S. become one team focused on playing football and bringing home a Lombardi.

That being said,
Ben goes down and we have to throw MBC and or Duck under center. Will the season be derailed again? Are MC and Duck better off with another camp and pre-season under their belts?

So say, we do give CK a shot. Get him to camp. He shakes off the few years of rust.
Shows, at 32, he still has some winning football in him.

In Camp, he out performs Duck, who in the first 2 weeks of camp, gives Edmunds countless opportunities to learn how to intercept an elongated inflated leather ball.
He shines in a pre-season game after Biberty flounders around for 2 quarters. Handing the clip board back to MC, a clipboard that has insurance claim forms below the play sheets.
We break camp with CK firmly entrenched as the #2 QB.

Season is going great. Ben rounds into form ( no pun intended ). Steelers start 3-1 are 6-2 at the halfway point.
Game #9 and Ben turns an ankle and the injury is worse than it looks. ( I hope I am not jinxing the season ).

CK trots on to the football field. Shows a little rust and tries to do more than he is ready for. Throws two picks and fumbles away the game.
Press and media goes viral. The Steelers locker room is now loaded with reporters. The media wants to pick at old scabs and make the situation worse. The media needs juice, blood, they want clicks, they want to sell papers.
Sitting at his stool in the locker room, CK says no comment and "Onto the Bengels".
They continue to press him for the answer they want to hear.
He says. "Onto the Bengels".
Hits the practice field. And gets ready for the next game.
Love that guy! Lets show them what we are made of this coming Sunday.
Go Steelers.

CK looks better the following week. Steelers win.
Steelers get back on roll and build momentum.
CK looks in total control of the offense. Not spectacular, but winning balanced football.
Steelers finish strong and make the playoffs.
Steelers beat Cleveland in Wild Card round. CK has a great game. MC and Myles Garrett hug in the middle of the field after the game. Make dinner plans and family vacation plans come the spring. They speak briefly about the benifits of bundling insurance.

Steelers ready, locked and loaded. Rolling and looking great, healthy other than Ben and Chickillo. They beat the hated Ravens in the next round. Game was not close and Duck actually comes in to hand off for the final series as Tomlin could not find MC, who was advising a sideline chord untangler about coastal flood insurance.

Steelers face off against the Pats, who cheated their way to the #1 seed with no one anybody ever heard of on offense. Steelers play whole game using sign language, which they learned during the week after being tipped off by Antonio Brown who was cut by the Pats the previous week after AB gave the Pats the Steelers play book. Steelers win a close one. AB does a FB live dance saying how he loves the Steelers and would like to play for them in the Super Bowl.

The Steelers defeated their three most heated rivals. Look great, even tho Bens stress fracture ( again, I am very sorry ) makes him doubtful for the Super Bowl. CK looks like he will do the unthinkable. Taking his team to the SB and looking for a Lombardi.

Steelers square off against Americas second Favorite Team, The Dallas Cowboys in the Super Bowl
A back and forth battle see a CK comback, as the Steelers offense steamrolls back from a 20 point third quarter deficit. The Dallas defense is gassed as the Steelers offense has controlled the clock most of the 4th quarter. They are old school pounding the run ( think Bam morris SB 30 ) with CK 3rd down scrambles and passes to keep drives rolling.

Last minute of play and the Steelers need a TD to win the game. Cowboys defenders hands on the knees, they used all of their time outs to give them a break. Steelers get down inside the 5 after a CK scramble extends a 4th down play.

Tomlin call his 4th time out of the quarter as a new rule penalizes them 5 yards. ( The Cweb rule ) back to the 9.
2nd down run gets them to the 5.
Steelers running to the line of scrimmage to get set. Cowboys standing and dragging around, and not getting set.
Third down run gets them to the 1.
Dallas is done.
4th and goal at the 1............. 20 seconds left. Lets go! Lets Go! ( think Bill cowher spit ) Pound that in. QB keeper, leap the line. lets do it. Go grab #7.

Here we go. 4th and goal at the 1! Down by 4, need a TD. All the marbles!
Hike!
CK takes the snap, takes three steps back.
Turns to the sideline, throws the ball into the stands. And walks off the field and thru the tunnel as Tomlin is calling his 5th time out.

Bet you didn not see than ending coming.
James Patterson has nothing on me.

What a ridiculous fantasy. Cleveland in the playoffs??? At least try to be realistic, will you?

Lol.
Thank you for reading my fantasy.
I had to throw ac little bit of fiction into my story

[Donnie Brasco]

I think that if the Steelers would want to sign CK that Roger Goodell would find an exception for the cap space.

There is absolutely no way in hell this happens.

I would not be suprised.
The Pandering Meter has been red lining the last few weeks.

Well Al "Back Taxes" Sharpton says the NFL should give him a job, so it's almost assured now.
https://sports.yahoo.com/al-sharpton-to ... 35228.html

They'll call it the Colin Kap Cap Rule. If the player is an activist, they don't count against your cap.

[COR-TEN]

Where did Kaep say he didn't want to be a backup? Recently. I found this :

According to Christian Datoc of the Daily Caller, the former San Francisco 49ers quarterback doesn't want "backup money" and turned down at least one deal.

However, TMZ reported Tuesday that this was incorrect. "Colin never had any talks about any contract or any money," a source in his inner circle told TMZ.

Daily Caller? Yeah, right. Ok. Sounds a lot like a political smear. And it keeps being repeated, even if it's not true. But I did find this :

According to Smith, Kaepernick didn’t even want to be a starting quarterback. The sports commentator says he spoke with Kaepernick’s girlfriend, Nessa Diab, last week. According to Smith, Diab told him that Kaep would be open to a backup job.

Various articles I found said he's willing to be a backup. Yet the meme keeps getting repeated that he wants to start, and has commitment issues. All of which seem to be incorrect. This isn't about his football ability. People will look wherever they can to discredit him. Be it politically, motivational issues, statistics, or money. It's about his perspective on law enforcement and the made up narrative about disrespecting the military and the "flag."

I'll bet he'd play wherever, even as a camp arm battling for #2. On a shitty team.

Why doesn't Kap just come out and state what he wants? You've referenced where he's talked to a reporter then it was his gf. Both are 2nd hand information. No direct quotes from the man himself.

That's another reason teams are shying away from him. Seems like he intentionally plays this cloak and dagger game. Then when he doesn't get what he wants he's able to use it to support his narrative.

No reporter has asked him the following questions:
1. Is he ok w/ a backup position?
2. What are his contract demands?

Until then it's all this conjecture and misinformation.

And what is Kaep's narrative again? What cloak and dagger? Are you referring to his closed door workout? He wanted his workout public so people can see his abilities - allowing other teams to make their own judgment. Keeping it under wraps means whatever team works him out can tell the story however they want since it's not documented. They'll just say he sucked.

As a refresher, this is what you posted earlier.

As has been said: dude doesn't want to be a backup

Even if the Steelers had interest (I doubt they do). Signing a contract is a 2 way street

All this discussion is moot

You made the assertion that he doesn't want to be a back up based on what? The Daily Caller? Because he didn't answer your questions? I gave two instances where he said he'd play back up. I'm not basing that on conjecture or misinformation. You've already made your decision he doesn't want to play, but him directly stating to his girlfriend which was relayed to a journalist isn't good enough for you? False equivalency. What matters is his agent and 32 teams. And here it is again :

Colin Kaepernick's agent has reportedly reached out to three teams, QB apparently willing to be a backup
https://www.cbssports.com/nfl/news/coli ... -a-backup/

"One of the things that Nessa Diab told me last week when she and I met, she said, 'Colin Kaeperinck trains five days a week, every day, all five days, at 5 a.m.,'" Smith said. "'Working out a minimum of three hours a day, if not longer. He's ready to go. He wants to be back in the NFL and it doesn't have to be as a starting quarterback. It could be as a backup quarterback.'"

[blu]

I think that if the Steelers would want to sign CK that Roger Goodell would find an exception for the cap space.

There is absolutely no way in hell this happens.

Prior to the tragic death of George Floyd & all the protesting in the streets - there was absolutely no way in hell that Roger Goodell would have apologized in the manner that he did. Things can change.

[Texas Black & Gold]

I think that if the Steelers would want to sign CK that Roger Goodell would find an exception for the cap space.

There is absolutely no way in hell this happens.

Prior to the tragic death of George Floyd & all the protesting in the streets - there was absolutely no way in hell that Roger Goodell would have apologized in the manner that he did. Things can change.

Yes things can change and often do. We can only hope they change for the better.

[Jobu]

I think that if the Steelers would want to sign CK that Roger Goodell would find an exception for the cap space.

There is absolutely no way in hell this happens.

Prior to the tragic death of George Floyd & all the protesting in the streets - there was absolutely no way in hell that Roger Goodell would have apologized in the manner that he did. Things can change.

So you think Goodell is going to give a team a salary cap exemption to sign CK, and every other team is going to be OK with that?
Like I said ...not going to happen.

[blu]

There is absolutely no way in hell this happens.

Prior to the tragic death of George Floyd & all the protesting in the streets - there was absolutely no way in hell that Roger Goodell would have apologized in the manner that he did. Things can change.

So you think Goodell is going to give a team a salary cap exemption to sign CK, and every other team is going to be OK with that?
Like I said ...not going to happen.

While you may readily be right, I heard something about the NFL offering draft picks to teams offering coaching jobs to African-Americans. What I am supposing doesn't seem so different.

[Jobu]

Prior to the tragic death of George Floyd & all the protesting in the streets - there was absolutely no way in hell that Roger Goodell would have apologized in the manner that he did. Things can change.

So you think Goodell is going to give a team a salary cap exemption to sign CK, and every other team is going to be OK with that?
Like I said ...not going to happen.

While you may readily be right, I heard something about the NFL offering draft picks to teams offering coaching jobs to African-Americans. What I am supposing doesn't seem so different.

That idea was suggested, then quickly nixed when most agreed it was a bad idea.
Once again, the league is not going to grant one team a competitive advantage like that. It would open a huge can of worms.

[El Kabong]

Prior to the tragic death of George Floyd & all the protesting in the streets - there was absolutely no way in hell that Roger Goodell would have apologized in the manner that he did. Things can change.

So you think Goodell is going to give a team a salary cap exemption to sign CK, and every other team is going to be OK with that?
Like I said ...not going to happen.

While you may readily be right, I heard something about the NFL offering draft picks to teams offering coaching jobs to African-Americans. What I am supposing doesn't seem so different.

While I am in favor of African-Americans having a fair shot at jobs in the NFL, I can't say I'm thrilled by teams getting better draft picks for doing so.

[Texas Black & Gold]

How about this. Conduct a Lottery. Have 32 ping pong balls with a different logo of each team. The last ping pong ball through is the winner of CK services if he agrees. It could be a win win win situation.
The team that "wins" could always say they were forced to take him. At the same time they could win from having his services.
CK would win by getting a second chance to play in the NFL.
The NFL would win by giving CK a second chance.
What about the TV ratings for the "Survivor" type lottery that would be through the roof. Another win.

The NBA has a lottery why not the NFL?

[stinger8]

How about this. Conduct a Lottery. Have 32 ping pong balls with a different logo of each team. The last ping pong ball through is the winner of CK services if he agrees. It could be a win win win situation.
The team that "wins" could always say they were forced to take him. At the same time they could win from having his services.
CK would win by getting a second chance to play in the NFL.
The NFL would win by giving CK a second chance.
What about the TV ratings for the "Survivor" type lottery that would be through the roof. Another win.

The NBA has a lottery why not the NFL?

This is such a bad "take" on such a morally sensitive situation. Hey lets have a lottery to see who HAS to take a person who is only guilty of standing up for his beliefs, beliefs that essentially say everyone should be treated equally The outcome is some Blazing Saddles type comedy where the black person is the brunt of the joke

Fact is CK is another in a long list of black AMERICANS who were vilified for standing up to oppression. What he got for his troubles was to be ostracized.

How about a team says he has displayed at times elite QB play we could use the talents of this person and they sign him without being forced to participate in a lottery.

Texas B&G be better, this is not remotely funny and you should be embarrassed trying to pass this off as humorous.

[Texas Black & Gold]

https://www.foxnews.com/sports/nfl-head ... kaepernick

[K_C_]

https://www.foxnews.com/sports/nfl-head ... kaepernick

I pray it's us.

Let Mason become the #3 guy and learn more before he goes out there with the real bullets flying again.

Let Duck become a manager at Arby's.

Hopefully Paxton blows us all away and knocks Mason off the roster.

[K_C_]

How about this. Conduct a Lottery. Have 32 ping pong balls with a different logo of each team. The last ping pong ball through is the winner of CK services if he agrees. It could be a win win win situation.
The team that "wins" could always say they were forced to take him. At the same time they could win from having his services.
CK would win by getting a second chance to play in the NFL.
The NFL would win by giving CK a second chance.
What about the TV ratings for the "Survivor" type lottery that would be through the roof. Another win.

The NBA has a lottery why not the NFL?

This is such a bad "take" on such a morally sensitive situation. Hey lets have a lottery to see who HAS to take a person who is only guilty of standing up for his beliefs, beliefs that essentially say everyone should be treated equally The outcome is some Blazing Saddles type comedy where the black person is the brunt of the joke

Fact is CK is another in a long list of black AMERICANS who were vilified for standing up to oppression. What he got for his troubles was to be ostracized.

How about a team says he has displayed at times elite QB play we could use the talents of this person and they sign him without being forced to participate in a lottery.

Texas B&G be better, this is not remotely funny and you should be embarrassed trying to pass this off as humorous.

EXCELLENT post.

It's sad the Steelers still have so many racist fans, but not surprising in the least.

This board alone proves that.

[Texas Black & Gold]

It is really sad that people misuse a certain word and attempt to label others simply because they have a different point of view.

[COR-TEN]

It is really sad that people misuse a certain word and attempt to label others simply because they have a different point of view.

Lets be clear here. "A different point of view," in your opinion, is now meant to mean anything. Flying elephants and green skies are a different point of view. And society is supposed to take it as legitimate? Even when a false narrative is purposefully propagated to inflate the first amendment. Move the overton window.

That's pretty much what you are saying, especially in light of your post of the 75 year old guy being pushed to the ground by cops.

[Ice]

The post did come off a little disappointingly, in tone, at the very least, and probably wasn't thought through very well before that submit button got pressed.

That's where, as a country, we need to start; definitely here on this site. If it takes some folks getting called out to get things moving in that direction, then it's what needs to be done, and if folks are doing it "unintentionally," then they're just going to have to assume a "sorry to have to call you out on this," learn, and move forward.