Sure...The fans are going to will this team to a playoff win...
Tomlin inks 3 year extension
Re: Tomlin inks 3 year extension
“Ah, who cares about Seattle’s Space Needle? Dumb looking building, you can see the whole stupid town, built by some jag off! Pittsburgh got Mt. Warshington, gorgeous hillside, beautiful views of the whole city, built by God…we win!” - Pittsburgh Dad
If the steelers go deep in the playoffs, who here will eat crow?
Arguing with idiots is like playing chess with a pigeon. No matter how good you are, the pigeon is going to shit on the board and strut around like it won anyway.
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I don't know how that wasn't the first post in the thread.
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Ben comes back, Tomlin doesn't = CHAMPIONSHIP!!!
Ben comes back, Tomlin doesn't = CHAMPIONSHIP!!!
I've been waiting to eat my crow for a good 5-6 years. I'm fucking starving over here.
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Ben comes back, Tomlin doesn't = CHAMPIONSHIP!!!
Ben comes back, Tomlin doesn't = CHAMPIONSHIP!!!
Gladly, but...
“Ah, who cares about Seattle’s Space Needle? Dumb looking building, you can see the whole stupid town, built by some jag off! Pittsburgh got Mt. Warshington, gorgeous hillside, beautiful views of the whole city, built by God…we win!” - Pittsburgh Dad
I think the NFL and ESPN will really push for Ben to get another ring in his last year
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Eat it? I'll toss its salad.
“Being a fan is fine, but there is a line you can cross that makes it really unhealthy,” said Ken Yeager, PhD, a mental health expert in the department of psychiatry at The Ohio State University Wexner Medical Center.
Isn't part of sports fandom waiting for the ultimate prize?
It's like the sense of entitlement is on steroids. Scratch that, Mutated by solar radiation.
I should turn my sun avatar back on. . .
It's like the sense of entitlement is on steroids. Scratch that, Mutated by solar radiation.
I should turn my sun avatar back on. . .
Arguing with idiots is like playing chess with a pigeon. No matter how good you are, the pigeon is going to shit on the board and strut around like it won anyway.
2 teams play in the AFCC every year, so once every 8 years would be dead average.
But I do like how you subtly lowered the bar of expectation to simply a "deep playoff run"....as if even you know saying "if he wins a SB" would have been LOL ridiculous.
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I just busted out laughing reading that. Gladly, I wasn’t chewing or taking a drink at the time.
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Most overrated NFL coach in my life time.
Another 3 years... Yay.
Another 3 years... Yay.
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he's an 8 win merchant.StillerInCT wrote: ↑Tue Apr 20, 2021 3:25 pm
Two things you're stuck with in life. Herpes and Tomlin.
Tomlin is a regular season merchant. Such a stupid and safe decision by Rooney.
EDIT: He's a first 3/4 of a season merchant.
Fuck this noise. It isn't so much the size of the drought. Look, only one team wins every year. We embrace that.
It is the all too predictable mishaps by Tomlin that cost his teams chances. Punting in that situation was a fireable offense. Full stop. But the maddening thing is that punting in that situation isn't an aberration but simply the worst manifestation of Tomlin's god awful football gut instincts.
Maybe you should change your fandom to the browns, or the dolphins, lions, or the chargers. Go fer it.zeke5123 wrote: ↑Tue Apr 20, 2021 5:57 pmFuck this noise. It isn't so much the size of the drought. Look, only one team wins every year. We embrace that.
It is the all too predictable mishaps by Tomlin that cost his teams chances. Punting in that situation was a fireable offense. Full stop. But the maddening thing is that punting in that situation isn't an aberration but simply the worst manifestation of Tomlin's god awful football gut instincts.
Arguing with idiots is like playing chess with a pigeon. No matter how good you are, the pigeon is going to shit on the board and strut around like it won anyway.
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How can you be so optimistic with this guy's results?Texas Black & Gold wrote: ↑Tue Apr 20, 2021 4:22 pmThe fans are going to will this team to a playoff win If they are allowed back into Heinz Field this year. Tomlin will have the players in position to win. I am hoping Ben and company can bring it home one more time.
I don't get it.
Tomlin's biggest accomplishment as the HC of the Pittsburgh Steelers was to convince the Rooney's to change the standard from championships to mediocrity. Best salesman in the history of the NFL.
Howard Griffith had to resort to chop-blocking him during the 1997 AFC Championship Game. An incredulous Kirkland asked Griffith, “Why do you have to use cheap tactics like chop-blocking?” Griffith replied “Why do you have to be a 300-pound linebacker?”
What a silly response. I fear that in five years, our team will be like the Browns, Dolphins, Lions, or Chargers.COR-TEN wrote: ↑Tue Apr 20, 2021 6:20 pmMaybe you should change your fandom to the browns, or the dolphins, lions, or the chargers. Go fer it.zeke5123 wrote: ↑Tue Apr 20, 2021 5:57 pmFuck this noise. It isn't so much the size of the drought. Look, only one team wins every year. We embrace that.
It is the all too predictable mishaps by Tomlin that cost his teams chances. Punting in that situation was a fireable offense. Full stop. But the maddening thing is that punting in that situation isn't an aberration but simply the worst manifestation of Tomlin's god awful football gut instincts.
Look -- I am fine not being flashy in the offseason. I am fine building through the draft. I am fine having consistency. But after awhile, it becomes obvious when a particular player or coach just isn't working anymore. We are at that stage.
What makes you think firing Tomlin (or at least not extending) would turn us into the Browns, Dolphins, Lions, or Chargers?
You mindless cretins. It's obvious the plan is to trade Tomlin to move-up and draft Williams.
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A long time ago (Feb 6, 2011) and a few times since, I wanted a new coach for the team. So I understand those that want him gone, I really do. But over time, Tomlin has grown on me. He seems to always have competitive teams and players that play hard. I can't say that for the basement dwellers of the league or most other teams. I prefer to support those on the team that are trying rather than getting all worked up over things that I can not control. Yes I would like to see the Steelers win the Lombardi again. But I am not ready to blame the lack of success on one person. Perhaps when Ben hangs it up or there is a clear alternative to Tomlin or a natural transition I will be ready for the change. I didn't like seeing Cowher or Noll leave either. Hope that makes sense.Minkah'n Big Plays wrote: ↑Tue Apr 20, 2021 6:55 pmHow can you be so optimistic with this guy's results?Texas Black & Gold wrote: ↑Tue Apr 20, 2021 4:22 pmThe fans are going to will this team to a playoff win If they are allowed back into Heinz Field this year. Tomlin will have the players in position to win. I am hoping Ben and company can bring it home one more time.
I don't get it.
Secure NHALS early and then go deep into the PLAYOFFS.
LOL. Work with me here, fellas. Work with me.
But I will say you should be all satiated if (!) the steelers win the SB. Should be enough crow for a few years, yes? With thyme, carrots and potatoes.
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Stop being reasonable. NO REASON ALLOWED I THIS THREAD!Texas Black & Gold wrote: ↑Tue Apr 20, 2021 7:53 pmA long time ago (Feb 6, 2011) and a few times since, I wanted a new coach for the team. So I understand those that want him gone, I really do. But over time, Tomlin has grown on me. He seems to always have competitive teams and players that play hard. I can't say that for the basement dwellers of the league or most other teams. I prefer to support those on the team that are trying rather than getting all worked up over things that I can not control. Yes I would like to see the Steelers win the Lombardi again. But I am not ready to blame the lack of success on one person. Perhaps when Ben hangs it up or there is a clear alternative to Tomlin or a natural transition I will be ready for the change. I didn't like seeing Cowher or Noll leave either. Hope that makes sense.Minkah'n Big Plays wrote: ↑Tue Apr 20, 2021 6:55 pmHow can you be so optimistic with this guy's results?Texas Black & Gold wrote: ↑Tue Apr 20, 2021 4:22 pmThe fans are going to will this team to a playoff win If they are allowed back into Heinz Field this year. Tomlin will have the players in position to win. I am hoping Ben and company can bring it home one more time.
I don't get it.
#killtomlin
/sarca
Texas Black & Gold wrote: ↑Tue Apr 20, 2021 7:53 pmA long time ago (Feb 6, 2011) and a few times since, I wanted a new coach for the team. So I understand those that want him gone, I really do. But over time, Tomlin has grown on me. He seems to always have competitive teams and players that play hard. I can't say that for the basement dwellers of the league or most other teams. I prefer to support those on the team that are trying rather than getting all worked up over things that I can not control. Yes I would like to see the Steelers win the Lombardi again. But I am not ready to blame the lack of success on one person. Perhaps when Ben hangs it up or there is a clear alternative to Tomlin or a natural transition I will be ready for the change. I didn't like seeing Cowher or Noll leave either. Hope that makes sense.Minkah'n Big Plays wrote: ↑Tue Apr 20, 2021 6:55 pmHow can you be so optimistic with this guy's results?Texas Black & Gold wrote: ↑Tue Apr 20, 2021 4:22 pmThe fans are going to will this team to a playoff win If they are allowed back into Heinz Field this year. Tomlin will have the players in position to win. I am hoping Ben and company can bring it home one more time.
I don't get it.
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Seriously, did anyone think Tomlin was leaving before Ben?
To me the REAL question is, what will Mike do when Ben retires? To be fair, his absolute best coaching was the year Ben went down ..... though they still managed to collapse at the end after having a real shot at the playoffs, getting that far with Mason & Duck was quite an accomplishment.
Back to my initial point though, when Ben retires will Mikey:
A) Run away knowing Ben was a master at pulling out wins that could have easily gone the other way, time and time again.
or
B) Actually believe he is a genius and try to prove it without the HOF QB he has relied n his entire career.
If the team does good to great between now and when Ben retires, he might have a shot at the HOF by leaving then. Before I get chastised too much, remember that his career coaching numbers are fairly similar to incoming HOF Coach Field Goal Bill Cowher.
Tomlin
Reg season 145-78-1 (.650)
Playoffs 8-8 (.500)
AFCC 2-1
SB 1-1
Cowher
Reg season 149-90-1 (.623)
Playoffs 12-9 (.571)
AFCC 2-4
SB 1-1
Each coach had their plusses and minuses and I agree it was time for the Chin to go when he did - he simply lost the desire to go all in after he finally grabbed the brass ring with the Championship in Detroit. But seriously, very few people thought he would eventually get a Gold Jacket when he left the team but time heals a lot of wounds and the numbers are what ultimately got him in.
If Tomlin manages to go 2 more years "without a losing record" and then both he and Ben retire, he'd have a minimum of 159 wins with less than 100 losses, 2 AFCCs and a SB Championship - several years down the road that could look pretty enticing to the committee. Heck, no matter how folks on this site feel, even now much of the media dubs him a top tier coach.
On the other hand, sticking around post Ben could be either good or bad for him. On one hand if as much of this board believes, he fails miserably once he has no Ben to bail him out, his reputation could take a significant hit. On the other hand, if he manages a few unlikely runs in the playoffs, it could make him look even better.
If I were him I'd leave after Ben retires as my guess is that he won't improve his reputation with his body of work post Ben.
To me the REAL question is, what will Mike do when Ben retires? To be fair, his absolute best coaching was the year Ben went down ..... though they still managed to collapse at the end after having a real shot at the playoffs, getting that far with Mason & Duck was quite an accomplishment.
Back to my initial point though, when Ben retires will Mikey:
A) Run away knowing Ben was a master at pulling out wins that could have easily gone the other way, time and time again.
or
B) Actually believe he is a genius and try to prove it without the HOF QB he has relied n his entire career.
If the team does good to great between now and when Ben retires, he might have a shot at the HOF by leaving then. Before I get chastised too much, remember that his career coaching numbers are fairly similar to incoming HOF Coach Field Goal Bill Cowher.
Tomlin
Reg season 145-78-1 (.650)
Playoffs 8-8 (.500)
AFCC 2-1
SB 1-1
Cowher
Reg season 149-90-1 (.623)
Playoffs 12-9 (.571)
AFCC 2-4
SB 1-1
Each coach had their plusses and minuses and I agree it was time for the Chin to go when he did - he simply lost the desire to go all in after he finally grabbed the brass ring with the Championship in Detroit. But seriously, very few people thought he would eventually get a Gold Jacket when he left the team but time heals a lot of wounds and the numbers are what ultimately got him in.
If Tomlin manages to go 2 more years "without a losing record" and then both he and Ben retire, he'd have a minimum of 159 wins with less than 100 losses, 2 AFCCs and a SB Championship - several years down the road that could look pretty enticing to the committee. Heck, no matter how folks on this site feel, even now much of the media dubs him a top tier coach.
On the other hand, sticking around post Ben could be either good or bad for him. On one hand if as much of this board believes, he fails miserably once he has no Ben to bail him out, his reputation could take a significant hit. On the other hand, if he manages a few unlikely runs in the playoffs, it could make him look even better.
If I were him I'd leave after Ben retires as my guess is that he won't improve his reputation with his body of work post Ben.
I don't believe that Mike Tomlin is sitting there saying "God, I suck. I'm sure glad Ben was there all those times to save my ass, I better get out of Dodge as soon as he retires!" I'm sure Mike will continue coaching after Ben is gone. I think he'll field competitive teams, but if he starts cranking out losing seasons, he'll eventually quit or get fired.Stillerz Bar wrote: ↑Tue Apr 20, 2021 11:15 pmSeriously, did anyone think Tomlin was leaving before Ben?
To me the REAL question is, what will Mike do when Ben retires? To be fair, his absolute best coaching was the year Ben went down ..... though they still managed to collapse at the end after having a real shot at the playoffs, getting that far with Mason & Duck was quite an accomplishment.
Back to my initial point though, when Ben retires will Mikey:
A) Run away knowing Ben was a master at pulling out wins that could have easily gone the other way, time and time again.
or
B) Actually believe he is a genius and try to prove it without the HOF QB he has relied n his entire career.
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Never ending nightmare I can’t wake up from
I will celebrate Tomlin’s dismissal (his terms or shit canned, doesn’t matter) like we won the SB
Can’t stand looking at that dumbass anymore
To think he will potentially roam our sidelines for the next 3 years and “tip his fucking hat” to our opponents who out-scheme and out coach this idiot makes me sick.
I will celebrate Tomlin’s dismissal (his terms or shit canned, doesn’t matter) like we won the SB
Can’t stand looking at that dumbass anymore
To think he will potentially roam our sidelines for the next 3 years and “tip his fucking hat” to our opponents who out-scheme and out coach this idiot makes me sick.
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Interesting.Stillerz Bar wrote: ↑Tue Apr 20, 2021 11:15 pm
Tomlin
Reg season 145-78-1 (.650)
Playoffs 8-8 (.500)
AFCC 2-1
SB 1-1
Cowher
Reg season 149-90-1 (.623)
Playoffs 12-9 (.571)
AFCC 2-4
SB 1-1
Tomlin
Regular Season Games: 224 (14 Seasons)
Playoff Games: 16
Total # of Games: 240
Avg # Games/Season: 17.1
Total # Lost: 86
Avg # Lost/Season: 6.1
Cowher
Regular Season Games: 240 (15 Seasons)
Playoff Games: 21
Total # of Games: 261
Avg # Games/Season: 17.4
Total # Lost: 99
Avg # Lost/Season: 6.6
It appears that while Cowher won more playoff games he had a slightly higher average of losses per season. So we suffered watching the games with Cowher at coach slightly more that Tomlin. If that is actually possible.
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If they go deep into playoffs you are talking about AFCCG or Superbowl? Then you have to figure out if Ben is back as well that would mean the team is clicking and playing well. I would like to have that be our problem unless Ben wants to go out on top and they win the Superbowl this upcoming season and he retires a legend like Elway (his idol) or Bettis.
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I am his biggest fan today. I hope he wins a superbowl this year.Minkah'n Big Plays wrote: ↑Tue Apr 20, 2021 6:55 pmHow can you be so optimistic with this guy's results?Texas Black & Gold wrote: ↑Tue Apr 20, 2021 4:22 pmThe fans are going to will this team to a playoff win If they are allowed back into Heinz Field this year. Tomlin will have the players in position to win. I am hoping Ben and company can bring it home one more time.
I don't get it.