Steelers at Ravens Game Comments & NHALS Watch

[Jobu]

By the way, Mike Tomlin has now beaten John "Better Coach Than Tomlin" Harbaugh in 5 of the last 6 meetings. This time, Tomlin beat Harbaugh's 10-5 team with a rookie.

18-15 all time. But we had Ben. I’d say they are pretty evenly matched.

Oh, but recently Harbaugh has had God King Superman MVP Lamar Jackson at QB.

Lamar has played in only two of those six games…just saying.

[bradshaw2ben]

This season reminding me a bit of 2002. Maddox replaced an ineffective Stewart, and for a time was pretty good, culminating in the big playoff comeback win. The next season the wheels kind of came off and the league figured him out. 6-10 have them a good draft slot, his elbow injury lost him the starting jobs and the rest is history.

This team isn’t as exciting for the first three quarters but they appear to have a little of that late game zest. Enjoy the ride even if it’s not a long peak. The story is yet to be written either way.

[Professor Half Wit]

18-15 all time. But we had Ben. I’d say they are pretty evenly matched.

Oh, but recently Harbaugh has had God King Superman MVP Lamar Jackson at QB.

Lamar has played in only two of those six games…just saying.

And my point is not to diminish Tomlin.

[BouldernBun]

Is a good time for najee to play a good game for once.

Best game of his pro career.

His most important carry of the night went for one yard…

…with Kenny Pickett tucked under his arm.

NH is better with Warren playing. The whole fucking offense is better with Warren playing. Warren is one of the finds of the year and I do give NHALS credit for recognizing that and playing him more.

[Texas Black & Gold]

Why wasn't that a fumble near the end of the game? He wasn't down and no one touched him. The ball got knocked out. Should have been a fumble IMHO.

[jeemie]

Why wasn't that a fumble near the end of the game? He wasn't down and no one touched him. The ball got knocked out. Should have been a fumble IMHO.

They said he surrendered and was looking to give he ball back to the official.

I don’t agree that was clear at all.

[Jobu]

Oh, but recently Harbaugh has had God King Superman MVP Lamar Jackson at QB.

Lamar has played in only two of those six games…just saying.

And my point is not to diminish Tomlin.

Not trying to diminish anyone here, just pointing out that Harbaugh hasn’t really had LJ in most of these matchups.
I think Lamar is a bit overrated, but there is no doubt that the Rats offense isn’t the same without him. He’s not a great passer, but he’s way better than Huntley. And his explosives as a runner can’t be denied. The Rats are much, much better with LJ…no doubt about it. It’s not a stretch to suggest that had Lamar played, the Steelers would’ve needed more than on TD to win.

[Texas Black & Gold]

Why wasn't that a fumble near the end of the game? He wasn't down and no one touched him. The ball got knocked out. Should have been a fumble IMHO.

They said he surrendered and was looking to give he ball back to the official.

I don’t agree that was clear at all.

Well aren't you supposed to wait until the play is over? No whistle was blow. Theoretically the Steelers should have been able to just watch him lay on the turf while the clock ticked away.

[El Kabong]

Why wasn't that a fumble near the end of the game? He wasn't down and no one touched him. The ball got knocked out. Should have been a fumble IMHO.

They said he surrendered and was looking to give he ball back to the official.

I don’t agree that was clear at all.

Well aren't you supposed to wait until the play is over? No whistle was blow. Theoretically the Steelers should have been able to just watch him lay on the turf while the clock ticked away.

I thought you had to kneel to give yourself up. I didn't realize laying in a fetal position was good enough.

[Havoc]

The QB had to bail out the HC yet again. Ben is gone, and now Pickett is doing it.

We coached to keep it close. We opened it up when forced to. Lucky for Tomlin their backup QB was awful.

[Texas Black & Gold]

They said he surrendered and was looking to give he ball back to the official.

I don’t agree that was clear at all.

Well aren't you supposed to wait until the play is over? No whistle was blow. Theoretically the Steelers should have been able to just watch him lay on the turf while the clock ticked away.

I thought you had to kneel to give yourself up. I didn't realize laying in a fetal position was good enough.

I didn't know you could unless on a fair catch.

[Havoc]

Outgaining teams 350 to 240 translates well to winning in pretty much any circumstance. And it’s pretty easy to hold people to 240 yards when they only touch the ball a handful of times.

Ravens had dogshit at QB in this game.

An offense that struggles to score, struggles to light it up in the passing game does not translate well.

Some are going to celebrate if we become the current era 49ers or the Titans of the past few years. Teams that typically come up short in the end. Like the Steelers did for many years between Bradshaw and Ben.

As a general point this is spot on.

Ravens had not allowed a TD at home in 15 quarters. Did I hear that right on the broadcast?

This was an impressive win.

The offense has got to be shot out win capable to win it all, no doubt.

But think about how YOUNG the offense is.

Fire Canada into the sun and get an elite coordinator allowed to do his thing.

It might be more Tomlin even than Canada.
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They might open it up more as Pickett progresses. Would be too little and too late for a lot of us.

This might be a shock, but I won't be surprised if the offense is better next year due to the braintrust taking the training wheels off + the growth of Pickett and the rest of the young players.

[steelmann58]

Yes the coaches still baffle me

[swissvale72]

What a fuckin' day!!

Typical Steelers-Ravens

As I always say.....We don't enjoy these games; we suffer through them, and hope we're happy at the end!!!

Truth Swiss.

We rarely get to breath easy as Steelers Fans. Even when we dominate, we almost always find a way to keep it close enough to be stressed out late in the 4th.

Seriously, dunno about you asshats, but i was mega pissed off from the time of the friermuth penalty atraight thru til the najee td

[bradshaw2ben]

Ravens had dogshit at QB in this game.

An offense that struggles to score, struggles to light it up in the passing game does not translate well.

Some are going to celebrate if we become the current era 49ers or the Titans of the past few years. Teams that typically come up short in the end. Like the Steelers did for many years between Bradshaw and Ben.

As a general point this is spot on.

Ravens had not allowed a TD at home in 15 quarters. Did I hear that right on the broadcast?

This was an impressive win.

The offense has got to be shot out win capable to win it all, no doubt.

But think about how YOUNG the offense is.

Fire Canada into the sun and get an elite coordinator allowed to do his thing.

It might be more Tomlin even than Canada.
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They might open it up more as Pickett progresses. Would be too little and too late for a lot of us.

This might be a shock, but I won't be surprised if the offense is better next year due to the braintrust taking the training wheels off + the growth of Pickett and the rest of the young players.

Of course I have some optimism after last night but 2002 is at least rhyming with this season, and that offense did not get better the following year. The QB got schemed for by opponents and started making the same kinds of mistakes over and over until we were glad to see him gone.

If they can run on teams like last night, KP isn’t going to get overexposed as a pocket passer. And if he and his mates continue to make plays outside of structure in Q4, they’ll have some success… maybe even grind a couple of upsets here and there.

But of course the head coach is the ultimate obstacle. IDK maybe he’s intentionally not giving the rookie QB and borderline OL a chance to make mistakes and be exposed early in games so that the defense won’t have time to figure them out. Or maybe his attrition football makes it closer than it has to be.

[bradshaw2ben]

the huntley TD pass was a scheme failure. But running a 6-2 scheme successfully specifically for a matchup is kind of a next-level coaching demonstration that people would be drooling about if someone other than tomlin did it.
[/quote]

Truth... but where was it in the first matchup, with Anthony freaking Brown at QB? I actually called for it in the game thread. Play goal line or bear defense.

To me, seeing Baltimore continue to run into that front over and over was the real coaching story. WTF, man.

[jeemie]

Truth... but where was it in the first matchup, with Anthony freaking Brown at QB? I actually called for it in the game thread. Play goal line or bear defense.

To me, seeing Baltimore continue to run into that front over and over was the real coaching story. WTF, man.

Especially since the Steelers weren’t holding up their end on pass defense.

But Harbaugh ain’t no coaching genius either.

[Steelknife]

Anyone who came away from this game anything but impressed by pickett’s poise and play making, and especially about his future, has an agenda.

Perfect no?
Improving? Massively.
Clutch in big moments.
Some absolutely elite throws especially on the move.

[Professor Half Wit]

Anyone who came away from this game anything but impressed by pickett’s poise and play making, and especially about his future, has an agenda.

Perfect no?
Improving? Massively.
Clutch in big moments.
Some absolutely elite throws especially on the move.

Compare the end of Miami versus Raiders and Ravens 2.0.

[SteelerDayTrader]

16 pts

Calm down fluffers it’s only 9am. A guy needs his rest

[K_C_]

This season reminding me a bit of 2002. Maddox replaced an ineffective Stewart, and for a time was pretty good, culminating in the big playoff comeback win. The next season the wheels kind of came off and the league figured him out. 6-10 have them a good draft slot, his elbow injury lost him the starting jobs and the rest is history.

This team isn’t as exciting for the first three quarters but they appear to have a little of that late game zest. Enjoy the ride even if it’s not a long peak. The story is yet to be written either way.

If Kenny were a veteran instead of a rookie and a former NFL washout who was coming out of the XFL with little chance of being the long term answer, I could maybe get the comparison.

[Dshiner]

Why wasn't that a fumble near the end of the game? He wasn't down and no one touched him. The ball got knocked out. Should have been a fumble IMHO.

They said he surrendered and was looking to give he ball back to the official.

I don’t agree that was clear at all.

Sets a great precedent. Refs make calls based on what, in their opinions, a player INTENDS to do or not do.

[tbsteel]

I don't think of the 2002 Steelers with Maddox as a comp for this year's team.

I think it's more like the 2000 Steelers. Shitty backup level QB starts the year (Kent Graham), goes 0-3, gets replaced by Flash. Defense steps up, lean on the running game, have a talented rookie WR (Plaxico), finish the year strong. Can the 2023 Steelers have a year like the 2001 Steelers? I doubt it given how the rest of the AFC looks, but I feel a lot better today than I did a month ago.

[GreenwoodsGoldShoes]

16 pts

Calm down fluffers it’s only 9am. A guy needs his rest

Steelers win.

STD inconsolable

[gpclay]

Why wasn't that a fumble near the end of the game? He wasn't down and no one touched him. The ball got knocked out. Should have been a fumble IMHO.

They said he surrendered and was looking to give he ball back to the official.

I don’t agree that was clear at all.

In our household (mixed Stiller and other team fans, primarily Iggles and Packers) the unanimous consensus was if you want to give up, you place the ball at the spot where you went down and then run back to the huddle, in order to get the offense reset faster and save time on the spike. It was a very strange play, not sure I have seen anything like that before.

[Texas Black & Gold]

Why wasn't that a fumble near the end of the game? He wasn't down and no one touched him. The ball got knocked out. Should have been a fumble IMHO.

They said he surrendered and was looking to give he ball back to the official.

I don’t agree that was clear at all.

In our household (mixed Stiller and other team fans, primarily Iggles and Packers) the unanimous consensus was if you want to give up, you place the ball at the spot where you went down and then run back to the huddle, in order to get the offense reset faster and save time on the spike. It was a very strange play, not sure I have seen anything like that before.

I also thought he was trying to get back for another play. But I really think the play should continue until the whistle is blown. I never did hear the whistle or see that he was down before he lost the ball.

[Pabst]

As a general point this is spot on.

Ravens had not allowed a TD at home in 15 quarters. Did I hear that right on the broadcast?

This was an impressive win.

The offense has got to be shot out win capable to win it all, no doubt.

But think about how YOUNG the offense is.

Fire Canada into the sun and get an elite coordinator allowed to do his thing.

You did hear that correctly, but it probably should be noted that their last 3 opponents at home have been Carolina, Denver, and Atlanta (with a 3rd round QB making his NFL debut).

[K_C_]

16 pts

Calm down fluffers it’s only 9am. A guy needs his rest

Do you sleep in the chair or have some sort of day bed?

[K_C_]

As a general point this is spot on.

Ravens had not allowed a TD at home in 15 quarters. Did I hear that right on the broadcast?

This was an impressive win.

The offense has got to be shot out win capable to win it all, no doubt.

But think about how YOUNG the offense is.

Fire Canada into the sun and get an elite coordinator allowed to do his thing.

You did hear that correctly, but it probably should be noted that their last 3 opponents at home have been Carolina, Denver, and Atlanta (with a 3rd round QB making his NFL debut).

After losing to the Ravens, Carolina beat Denver, beat Seattle in their building, lost to the Steelers, beat the living fuck out of the Lions (who are no joke anymore) and lost a close one for the division at Tampa Bay.

The Ravens held the Panthers to 3 points.

[Pabst]

As a general point this is spot on.

Ravens had not allowed a TD at home in 15 quarters. Did I hear that right on the broadcast?

This was an impressive win.

The offense has got to be shot out win capable to win it all, no doubt.

But think about how YOUNG the offense is.

Fire Canada into the sun and get an elite coordinator allowed to do his thing.

You did hear that correctly, but it probably should be noted that their last 3 opponents at home have been Carolina, Denver, and Atlanta (with a 3rd round QB making his NFL debut).

After losing to the Ravens, Carolina beat Denver, beat Seattle in their building, lost to the Steelers, beat the living fuck out of the Lions (who are no joke anymore) and lost a close one for the division at Tampa Bay.

The Ravens held the Panthers to 3 points.

That just so happened to be Baker's last game with Carolina