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Re: Watson done for season

Post by Smashmouth21 » Wed Nov 15, 2023 5:12 pm

jebrick wrote:
Wed Nov 15, 2023 5:11 pm
Pabst wrote:
Wed Nov 15, 2023 2:44 pm
StillerDownSouth wrote:
Wed Nov 15, 2023 1:52 pm
What a great investment by the Clowns.
Only a meager $200 million fully guaranteed remaining on that deal.
And they are $7k over cap for next year with no 1st or 4th round picks. They haven't taken a 1st or 2nd round pick in 2 years.
That’s gotta rub them the wrong way.



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Post by LakecrestSteeler » Wed Nov 15, 2023 5:15 pm

Pabst wrote:
Wed Nov 15, 2023 3:11 pm
Posting this for no reason whatsoever

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I was reading a thread over at the Barker about this very topic. Can’t make this stuff up.

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Post by Orangesteel » Wed Nov 15, 2023 5:18 pm

Pabst wrote:
Wed Nov 15, 2023 5:00 pm
rooneytunes wrote:
Wed Nov 15, 2023 4:43 pm
Rookie Dorian Thompson Robinson or whatever his name is getting 2nd start as a rookie.


Good lord NHALS. Can you please not fuck around and have this be some 4th quarter death match? Fucking demolish them.

Yeah...it's typically not a matter of "making a rookie QB look like an all pro" so much as it is the Offense either fucking up or being so conservative it would make Bob Dole blush.

The perfect example is the Bengals game vs Ryan Finley in 2020. Here's every Steelers drive in the first half of that game:
- 3 & Out, Punt
- 3 & Out, Punt
- 1 play, Fumble
- 3 & Out, Punt
- 3 plays, Fumble
- 10 plays to go 17 yards (seriously), Interception
- 3 & Out, Punt
- 3 & Out, Punt

The Steelers had 30 total yards and 3 turnovers on 8 drives in the first half of that game. Cincy could have trotted out a HS QB in that game and it wouldn't have mattered.
Is that the game where JUJU got absolutely destroyed over the middle after filming multiple pre-game TikToks at midfield?
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Post by LakecrestSteeler » Wed Nov 15, 2023 5:22 pm

Dan Smith--BYU wrote:
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This type of shoulder injury is often associated with muscle tension in the contralateral ball sack.
You are correct Dan….I just referenced anatomical charts, and the only way to massage that, Watson will have to have a multi-finger or fist insertion into the rectum and a tickle of the prostate. His deep tissue massage sessions should have that covered.


Hopefully, ball sack was not a Siri correction for bursa sac.
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Post by LakecrestSteeler » Wed Nov 15, 2023 5:22 pm

Smashmouth21 wrote:
Wed Nov 15, 2023 5:12 pm
jebrick wrote:
Wed Nov 15, 2023 5:11 pm
Pabst wrote:
Wed Nov 15, 2023 2:44 pm


Only a meager $200 million fully guaranteed remaining on that deal.
And they are $7k over cap for next year with no 1st or 4th round picks. They haven't taken a 1st or 2nd round pick in 2 years.
That’s gotta rub them the wrong way.
I see what you did there with rub!

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Post by TTP » Wed Nov 15, 2023 5:29 pm

rooneytunes wrote:
Wed Nov 15, 2023 4:43 pm
Rookie Dorian Thompson Robinson or whatever his name is getting 2nd start as a rookie.


Good lord NHALS. Can you please not fuck around and have this be some 4th quarter death match? Fucking demolish them.
I think it's hilarious that you think there is a possibility if this NOT being a 4th quarter death match.

Over the last 3 seasons, the Steelers have won just 3 games by more than 1 score:

2021 - Week 17 Steelers 26, Browns 14 (Najee 37 yard TD with 51 seconds left to extend to 2 score game)
2022 - Week 10 Steelers 20, Saints 10 (Pickett 1 yard run with 8:38 left to extend to 2 score game)
2022 - Week 17 Steelers 28, Browns 14 (Watt 1 yard run with 4:37 left to extend to a 2 score game)

It's a near certainty that this will be a 4th quarter death match. Unless the Browns blow them out, of course.

Note: There could be some games where the other team scored late to close to within 1 score. I am too lazy to find them.

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Post by anpsteel » Wed Nov 15, 2023 5:32 pm

rooneytunes wrote:
Wed Nov 15, 2023 4:43 pm
Rookie Dorian Thompson Robinson or whatever his name is getting 2nd start as a rookie.


Good lord NHALS. Can you please not fuck around and have this be some 4th quarter death match? Fucking demolish them.
Completely out of his character

Barring a major melt down by said rookie, the Browns will almost certainly be in the lead at some point.

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Post by Pabst » Wed Nov 15, 2023 5:54 pm

TTP wrote:
Wed Nov 15, 2023 5:29 pm
Note: There could be some games where the other team scored late to close to within 1 score. I am too lazy to find them.
There's only one of those - Carolina last year. The Panthers kicked a 50 yard FG with 20 seconds left to pull within 8. They'd have needed to recover the onside kick then convert a Hail Mary plus a 2 pointer to tie.

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Post by Orangesteel » Wed Nov 15, 2023 5:56 pm

I’ll give credit where it is due…sort of.

Turns out that rookie QB for the Texans is pretty damn good. He’s played better than practically every QB in the league this year. Demeco Ryans is a fantastic coach. Do I think the Steelers led by our bonehead HC underestimated the Texans when we went down there? Yes, probably. That and the Niners game were equally as terrible IMO. But the Texans are a game out of first place and look very, very good.

DTR is no Stroud. That we know. But the offense has to pick it up this week. Watson had been playing better so them going with their 3rd stringer Sunday is a massive opportunity for the Steelers to somehow get to 7-3 heading into Thanksgiving.

I’m glad there is this pressure on Kenny. He needs pressure. It’s sink or swim time broham.
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Post by bradshaw2ben » Wed Nov 15, 2023 5:56 pm

Smashmouth21 wrote:
Wed Nov 15, 2023 4:32 pm
Deebo wrote:
Wed Nov 15, 2023 4:29 pm
Guess PJ Walker isn't going to start

https://twitter.com/Schultz_Report/stat ... gr%5Etweet
DTR looked awful against the Ravens. But facing him is much scarier than PJ Walker.
Browns are starting a QB that can't stop turning the ball over vs a team that can only win if it gets turnovers.
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Post by bradshaw2ben » Wed Nov 15, 2023 6:03 pm

DTR in college and the NFL is averaging over a turnover per game. His breakout year in college, he averaged nearly 2 turnovers per game.

4 turnovers in his only NFL start.
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Post by jebrick » Wed Nov 15, 2023 6:08 pm

bradshaw2ben wrote:
Wed Nov 15, 2023 6:03 pm
DTR in college and the NFL is averaging over a turnover per game. His breakout year in college, he averaged nearly 2 turnovers per game.

4 turnovers in his only NFL start.
Which means he has his 1st 0 turnover game since pee-wee football this weekend.
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Post by gojira5150 » Wed Nov 15, 2023 6:12 pm

rooneytunes wrote:
Wed Nov 15, 2023 4:43 pm
Rookie Dorian Thompson Robinson or whatever his name is getting 2nd start as a rookie.


Good lord NHALS. Can you please not fuck around and have this be some 4th quarter death match? Fucking demolish them.
Don't count on it. DTR will be Offensive Player of the week. We all know what Cool Breeze does against inferior QB talent.
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Post by Pabst » Wed Nov 15, 2023 6:22 pm

jebrick wrote:
Wed Nov 15, 2023 5:11 pm
Pabst wrote:
Wed Nov 15, 2023 2:44 pm
StillerDownSouth wrote:
Wed Nov 15, 2023 1:52 pm
What a great investment by the Clowns.
Only a meager $200 million fully guaranteed remaining on that deal.
And they are $7k over cap for next year with no 1st or 4th round picks. They haven't taken a 1st or 2nd round pick in 2 years.
It's even worst than that - In 2025 they already have $283m committed against the cap....and that's before counting extensions/replacements for Chubb, Cooper, Jedrick Willis, JOK, Za'Darius Smith, and Greg Newsome.

Cleveland has gone the Saints route of kicking so much dead money down the road that they are absolutely fucked in the future.

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Post by Pabst » Wed Nov 15, 2023 6:33 pm

bradshaw2ben wrote:
Wed Nov 15, 2023 6:03 pm
DTR in college and the NFL is averaging over a turnover per game. His breakout year in college, he averaged nearly 2 turnovers per game.

4 turnovers in his only NFL start.
Ravens also recorded 4 sacks and 12 QB pressures in that game. Worth pointing out as Dawand Jones (who missed Sunday's game) missed practice again today, and Wyatt Teller is banged up as well.

The Browns could very well be starting Geron Christian and James Hudson at Tackle.

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Post by gojira5150 » Wed Nov 15, 2023 6:57 pm

Pabst wrote:
Wed Nov 15, 2023 6:33 pm
bradshaw2ben wrote:
Wed Nov 15, 2023 6:03 pm
DTR in college and the NFL is averaging over a turnover per game. His breakout year in college, he averaged nearly 2 turnovers per game.

4 turnovers in his only NFL start.
Ravens also recorded 4 sacks and 12 QB pressures in that game. Worth pointing out as Dawand Jones (who missed Sunday's game) missed practice again today, and Wyatt Teller is banged up as well.

The Browns could very well be starting Geron Christian and James Hudson at Tackle.
The Texans had a bunch of O-Linemen out and how'd that turn out for our D
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Post by Pabst » Wed Nov 15, 2023 7:07 pm

gojira5150 wrote:
Wed Nov 15, 2023 6:57 pm
Pabst wrote:
Wed Nov 15, 2023 6:33 pm
bradshaw2ben wrote:
Wed Nov 15, 2023 6:03 pm
DTR in college and the NFL is averaging over a turnover per game. His breakout year in college, he averaged nearly 2 turnovers per game.

4 turnovers in his only NFL start.
Ravens also recorded 4 sacks and 12 QB pressures in that game. Worth pointing out as Dawand Jones (who missed Sunday's game) missed practice again today, and Wyatt Teller is banged up as well.

The Browns could very well be starting Geron Christian and James Hudson at Tackle.
The Texans had a bunch of O-Linemen out and how'd that turn out for our D
Poorly

Conversely, the last time James Hudson started against the Steelers they recorded 8 sacks

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Post by Orangesteel » Wed Nov 15, 2023 7:08 pm

gojira5150 wrote:
Wed Nov 15, 2023 6:57 pm
Pabst wrote:
Wed Nov 15, 2023 6:33 pm
bradshaw2ben wrote:
Wed Nov 15, 2023 6:03 pm
DTR in college and the NFL is averaging over a turnover per game. His breakout year in college, he averaged nearly 2 turnovers per game.

4 turnovers in his only NFL start.
Ravens also recorded 4 sacks and 12 QB pressures in that game. Worth pointing out as Dawand Jones (who missed Sunday's game) missed practice again today, and Wyatt Teller is banged up as well.

The Browns could very well be starting Geron Christian and James Hudson at Tackle.
The Texans had a bunch of O-Linemen out and how'd that turn out for our D
That’s also Demeco Ryans and their OC (who is excellent) running circles around our coaches who are not good, probably bottom 3rd in the league.
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Post by Pabst » Wed Nov 15, 2023 7:15 pm

Orangesteel wrote:
Wed Nov 15, 2023 7:08 pm
That’s also Demeco Ryans and their OC (who is excellent) running circles around our coaches who are not good, probably bottom 3rd in the league.
Texans are down to their #3 C, have a other OL in injured reserve, and were missing their RB and top WR last weekend and hung 30 on Cincinnati.

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Post by Texas Black & Gold » Wed Nov 15, 2023 7:23 pm

rooneytunes wrote:
Wed Nov 15, 2023 4:43 pm
Rookie Dorian Thompson Robinson or whatever his name is getting 2nd start as a rookie.


Good lord NHALS. Can you please not fuck around and have this be some 4th quarter death match? Fucking demolish them.
It's not sportsmanship to blow out teams like Miami did by 70 points.
NHALS secured. Check.
In the playoffs. Check
AFCN Champions. Check
Beat the Texans. In progress
Here We Go Steelers

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Post by Orangesteel » Wed Nov 15, 2023 7:38 pm

Pabst wrote:
Wed Nov 15, 2023 7:15 pm
Orangesteel wrote:
Wed Nov 15, 2023 7:08 pm
That’s also Demeco Ryans and their OC (who is excellent) running circles around our coaches who are not good, probably bottom 3rd in the league.
Texans are down to their #3 C, have a other OL in injured reserve, and were missing their RB and top WR last weekend and hung 30 on Cincinnati.
JFC…how did that Beach Boys song go? Wouldn’t it be nice?
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Post by Deebo » Wed Nov 15, 2023 7:38 pm

All told, the latest shoulder injury means Watson will have missed 39 games over the past three seasons. He is still under contract for three more seasons with $138 million left on his deal.

Watson completed 61.4% of his passes this season for 1,115 yards with seven touchdowns and four interceptions. Despite Sunday's performance in Baltimore, he ranks 23rd in the NFL with a QBR of 44.7.

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Post by jebrick » Wed Nov 15, 2023 7:39 pm

Pabst wrote:
Wed Nov 15, 2023 6:33 pm
bradshaw2ben wrote:
Wed Nov 15, 2023 6:03 pm
DTR in college and the NFL is averaging over a turnover per game. His breakout year in college, he averaged nearly 2 turnovers per game.

4 turnovers in his only NFL start.
Ravens also recorded 4 sacks and 12 QB pressures in that game. Worth pointing out as Dawand Jones (who missed Sunday's game) missed practice again today, and Wyatt Teller is banged up as well.

The Browns could very well be starting Geron Christian and James Hudson at Tackle.
Which means no sacks and DTR throwing 4 TDs Damm
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Post by jebrick » Wed Nov 15, 2023 7:41 pm

Deebo wrote:
Wed Nov 15, 2023 7:38 pm
All told, the latest shoulder injury means Watson will have missed 39 games over the past three seasons. He is still under contract for three more seasons with $138 million left on his deal.

Watson completed 61.4% of his passes this season for 1,115 yards with seven touchdowns and four interceptions. Despite Sunday's performance in Baltimore, he ranks 23rd in the NFL with a QBR of 44.7.
Sadly, still ahead of KP.
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Post by Pabst » Wed Nov 15, 2023 8:15 pm

jebrick wrote:
Wed Nov 15, 2023 7:39 pm
Pabst wrote:
Wed Nov 15, 2023 6:33 pm
bradshaw2ben wrote:
Wed Nov 15, 2023 6:03 pm
DTR in college and the NFL is averaging over a turnover per game. His breakout year in college, he averaged nearly 2 turnovers per game.

4 turnovers in his only NFL start.
Ravens also recorded 4 sacks and 12 QB pressures in that game. Worth pointing out as Dawand Jones (who missed Sunday's game) missed practice again today, and Wyatt Teller is banged up as well.

The Browns could very well be starting Geron Christian and James Hudson at Tackle.
Which means no sacks and DTR throwing 4 TDs Damm
I got curious, so I went and checked. Here's the full list of QB's who have thrown for 3 TD's vs the Steelers:

2023 - None
2022 - Joe Burrow, Jalen Hurts, Josh Allen
2021 - Patrick Mahomes (twice), Justin Herbert, Joe Burrow
2020 - Baker Mayfield (playoff game)

You have to go back to Bryan Hoyer in 2019 for the last time a bad/backup QB had a 3 TD performance, let alone 4 (FWIW he only had 168 yards, threw a pick six, was sacked 5 times and lost a fumble).

Like i said earlier, the problem the Steelers have had against these teams is that they go into turtle mode in the first quarter. The idea that scrub QB's routinely gash the Steelers D doesn't hold up to scrutiny.

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Post by Pabst » Wed Nov 15, 2023 8:20 pm

Should have googled first....Steelersdepot had an article about this prior to the Texans game.

Since 2013, the Steelers are 13-3 vs Rookie QBs. The losses have come against Wentz & Prescott (both in 2016) and this season vs Stroud.

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Post by jeemie » Wed Nov 15, 2023 8:39 pm

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Post by bradshaw2ben » Wed Nov 15, 2023 8:54 pm

Pabst wrote:
Wed Nov 15, 2023 6:33 pm
bradshaw2ben wrote:
Wed Nov 15, 2023 6:03 pm
DTR in college and the NFL is averaging over a turnover per game. His breakout year in college, he averaged nearly 2 turnovers per game.

4 turnovers in his only NFL start.
Ravens also recorded 4 sacks and 12 QB pressures in that game. Worth pointing out as Dawand Jones (who missed Sunday's game) missed practice again today, and Wyatt Teller is banged up as well.

The Browns could very well be starting Geron Christian and James Hudson at Tackle.
Yeah the confluence of the Unleash hell venue, the no-name QB looking like a stud, the HC who outcoached Tomlin from his basement, and the OL backups off the street are scaring me a little ngl
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Post by Pabst » Wed Nov 15, 2023 9:09 pm

bradshaw2ben wrote:
Wed Nov 15, 2023 8:54 pm
Yeah the confluence of the Unleash hell venue, the no-name QB looking like a stud, the HC who outcoached Tomlin from his basement, and the OL backups off the street are scaring me a little ngl
The Browns are 1-4 vs the Steelers since that playoff game.

And can someone please point me to an example of a no-name QB looking like a stud vs the Steelers?

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Post by stillthere » Wed Nov 15, 2023 9:13 pm

gojira5150 wrote:
Wed Nov 15, 2023 2:52 pm
TTP wrote:
Wed Nov 15, 2023 2:23 pm
Brown's backup PJ Walker is abysmal:

49% completion percentage
1 TD
5 INT
6.3 YPA
QB rating 51.3

Career:
54.9%
6
16
6.4
60.1

Not a great runner either: 30 carries, 81 yards

The Browns will try to run it and play defense.

17-13 Tomlin thriller incoming!
He'll look like a Hall of Famer this weekend. Our D turns bum QB's into All Pros
If someone is going to beat you make it be the guy that has yet to show the ability to do so.
Shadow Cooper with JPJ all over the field stack the box against the run and make sure the TE is not getting ISO'd vs Roberts or Robinson.

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