Brock Purdy is a God

[SteelerDayTrader]

Purdy just locked up league MVP today. 4 Tds, 0 INT 135 QB rating while his only real competition Dak Prescott threw a pick, 0 TD and got blown out. Amazing story that Purdy is!

[Kodiak.]

Purdy just locked up league MVP today. 4 Tds, 0 INT 135 QB rating while his only real competition Dak Prescott threw a pick, 0 TD and got blown out. Amazing story that Purdy is!

Do you think if we had drafted Purdy in R7 instead of that other guy that Purdy would have made our practice squad?

[RemoAZ]

Purdy just locked up league MVP today. 4 Tds, 0 INT 135 QB rating while his only real competition Dak Prescott threw a pick, 0 TD and got blown out. Amazing story that Purdy is!

Do you think if we had drafted Purdy in R7 instead of that other guy that Purdy would have made our practice squad?

Even if he did, no way in hell he gets coached up into anything resembling the player he is today. Throw in the fact that he'd be playing in our horrible offense and best he could have hoped for was to be released and sign somewhere else.

[Steelperch]

Purdy just locked up league MVP today. 4 Tds, 0 INT 135 QB rating while his only real competition Dak Prescott threw a pick, 0 TD and got blown out. Amazing story that Purdy is!

Do you think if we had drafted Purdy in R7 instead of that other guy that Purdy would have made our practice squad?

With this franchise? He wouldn’t have gotten a snap in preseason to even see if he was any good, just like Oladukun. That pick was a Colbert going out the door shot in the dark that the coaching staff didn’t even entertain as being a useful use of a roster spot. Screams of organizational disfunction.

[Suwanee88]

This thread is pretty damn funny.

I don’t think just ANY QB can succeed in the Kyle Shanahan or the McVay/McDaniel spin-offs of his offense, but I’m admittedly amused by the implication Kenny Pickett would not.

How would Brock Purdy look playing in the Tomlida offense? Behind Chuks and Mason freakin’ Cole?
Even the most ardent of Kenny haters knows how that scenario would play out.

I like Purdy. Kid can play. If just ANY QB could succeed in that offense, Kyle would not have approved the massive haul to acquire the oh so raw, Trey Lance.

All you ‘Bama haters said Tua would never make it in the NFL
Now he’s a front runner for the MVP playing in McDaniel’s version of the Shanny offense.
Tua and his concussion issues playing in Tomlida's offense? Behind Chuks and Mason freakin' Cole?
Even the most ardent of Kenny haters knows how that scenario would play out.

Yep. I’m no Kenny fanboy, but to imply Kenny wouldn’t be at least serviceable out in San Fran is pretty damn laughable.
GREAT system and not a weak spot at ANY position.

Most NFL QBs would kill to play in that offense.
Stafford said his much upon his trade to LA ito play in the McVay version of the Shanny offense.

“Kill Kenny” all ya want if it makes you feel better. It’s not all justified, however.
I’m not a Kenny fan either but I think he’d be at least decent with a legitimate OC let alone the best OC in the league ala Kyle Shanahan.

Agree with this take.

I think the other huge story here and ties into Drama’s take is we took Chris Oladokun at 241, 20 picks before Purdy. And did absolutely nothing with him. Nothing. That guy is now on the Chiefs roster.

People can talk Tomlin all they want, but until Art2 rolls ups his sleeves and starts diving into this fucking mess HE has created and let happen and more importantly changes and immediately expects results or else, nothing will change.

[tbsteel]

The last few years have taught me just how much coaching and scheme matters when it comes to 95% of QBs.

Hell, Tua looked like a bust until Mike McDaniels walked in the door.

Purdy is 5x the QB Pickett is in terms of processing and decision-making, but I have no doubt he'd be middling on the Steelers compared to what he's doing with Shanahan. He wouldn't be anywhere as bad as lil ken, but let's just say any season awards would be a pipe dream.

Kind of funny in a way that Purdy in his second year may win MVP and be an All Pro.... something Big Ben never sniffed in 18 years. Don't know whether to laugh or cry.

[LakecrestSteeler]

This thread is pretty damn funny.

I don’t think just ANY QB can succeed in the Kyle Shanahan or the McVay/McDaniel spin-offs of his offense, but I’m admittedly amused by the implication Kenny Pickett would not.

How would Brock Purdy look playing in the Tomlida offense? Behind Chuks and Mason freakin’ Cole?
Even the most ardent of Kenny haters knows how that scenario would play out.

I like Purdy. Kid can play. If just ANY QB could succeed in that offense, Kyle would not have approved the massive haul to acquire the oh so raw, Trey Lance.

All you ‘Bama haters said Tua would never make it in the NFL
Now he’s a front runner for the MVP playing in McDaniel’s version of the Shanny offense.
Tua and his concussion issues playing in Tomlida's offense? Behind Chuks and Mason freakin' Cole?
Even the most ardent of Kenny haters knows how that scenario would play out.

Yep. I’m no Kenny fanboy, but to imply Kenny wouldn’t be at least serviceable out in San Fran is pretty damn laughable.
GREAT system and not a weak spot at ANY position.

Most NFL QBs would kill to play in that offense.
Stafford said his much upon his trade to LA ito play in the McVay version of the Shanny offense.

“Kill Kenny” all ya want if it makes you feel better. It’s not all justified, however.
I’m not a Kenny fan either but I think he’d be at least decent with a legitimate OC let alone the best OC in the league ala Kyle Shanahan.

Posted similar sentiment in the game thread on Saturday. Agree 100%. Right now the Steelers have about 10 beautiful women out on stage, dressed with bunny tails doing their best Vanna White impression as Tomlin cuts someone in half. It is so difficult not to look at the beautiful woman to see what Tomlin Copperfield and staff is really doing or not doing.

[LakecrestSteeler]

The last few years have taught me just how much coaching and scheme matters when it comes to 95% of QBs.

Hell, Tua looked like a bust until Mike McDaniels walked in the door.

Purdy is 5x the QB Pickett is in terms of processing and decision-making, but I have no doubt he'd be middling on the Steelers compared to what he's doing with Shanahan. He wouldn't be anywhere as bad as lil ken, but let's just say any season awards would be a pipe dream.

Kind of funny in a way that Purdy in his second year may win MVP and be an All Pro.... something Big Ben never sniffed in 18 years. Don't know whether to laugh or cry.

I have not seen anyone on this board qualified enough to walk us through and describe the multiplier effects that would occur if KP was at the helm of the 49ers. Maybe you are 100% right, but I guarantee some of his weaknesses would vanish outright and other opportunity areas would flourish and would appear to have a net effect of compounding interest and dividends being paid to esteem, confidence, and virtual testosterone that is difficult to isolate and measure.

Imagine getting to think about one, two, fire the ball instead of one, two, gather the slowly rolling football!

Or imagine seeing all your receivers sit properly in seams and zone intersections!

Who knows! Maybe Kenny is as dumb as a rock and has no hutzpah!

[Jobu]

Kind of funny in a way that Purdy in his second year may win MVP and be an All Pro.... something Big Ben never sniffed in 18 years. Don't know whether to laugh or cry.

Ben’s issue was that his career mostly overlapped the careers of Tom Brady, Peyton Manning, and Aaron Rodgers. Three excellent QBs, as was Ben, but also three QBs that were/are huge media darlings. Ben never had a serious chance.
Purdy has been excellent, but with Mahomes having a “down” season by his standards, his main competition for MVP, is his teammate CMC, Tua, and Dak, who may or may not be about to embark on his annual late season choke job.

[955876]

Kind of funny in a way that Purdy in his second year may win MVP and be an All Pro.... something Big Ben never sniffed in 18 years. Don't know whether to laugh or cry.

Ben’s issue was that his career mostly overlapped the careers of Tom Brady, Peyton Manning, and Aaron Rodgers. Three excellent QBs, as was Ben, but also three QBs that were/are huge media darlings. Ben never had a serious chance.
Purdy has been excellent, but with Mahomes having a “down” season by his standards, his main competition for MVP, is his teammate CMC, Tua, and Dak, who may or may not be about to embark on his annual late season choke job.

Plus, that “game manager” label stuck so Ben rarely got the credit the others did.

[Steelperch]

Kind of funny in a way that Purdy in his second year may win MVP and be an All Pro.... something Big Ben never sniffed in 18 years. Don't know whether to laugh or cry.

Ben’s issue was that his career mostly overlapped the careers of Tom Brady, Peyton Manning, and Aaron Rodgers. Three excellent QBs, as was Ben, but also three QBs that were/are huge media darlings. Ben never had a serious chance.
Purdy has been excellent, but with Mahomes having a “down” season by his standards, his main competition for MVP, is his teammate CMC, Tua, and Dak, who may or may not be about to embark on his annual late season choke job.

Plus, that “game manager” label stuck so Ben rarely got the credit the others did.

Plus Ben played for the Steelers, an organization rooted to its core in the philosophy that the only way to win is through defense and ball control. Aside from maybe 2 years of Ben’s career they never really tried to outscore teams or let the QB cook.

[Jobu]

Ben’s issue was that his career mostly overlapped the careers of Tom Brady, Peyton Manning, and Aaron Rodgers. Three excellent QBs, as was Ben, but also three QBs that were/are huge media darlings. Ben never had a serious chance.
Purdy has been excellent, but with Mahomes having a “down” season by his standards, his main competition for MVP, is his teammate CMC, Tua, and Dak, who may or may not be about to embark on his annual late season choke job.

Plus, that “game manager” label stuck so Ben rarely got the credit the others did.

Plus Ben played for the Steelers, an organization rooted to its core in the philosophy that the only way to win is through defense and ball control. Aside from maybe 2 years of Ben’s career they never really tried to outscore teams or let the QB cook.

Yes and yes.

[Dan Smith--BYU]

Purdy is right, CMac is MVP. Mahomes would be if he had decent WRs. And fuck Mendenhall.

[CKSteeler]

The last few years have taught me just how much coaching and scheme matters when it comes to 95% of QBs.

Hell, Tua looked like a bust until Mike McDaniels walked in the door.

Purdy is 5x the QB Pickett is in terms of processing and decision-making, but I have no doubt he'd be middling on the Steelers compared to what he's doing with Shanahan. He wouldn't be anywhere as bad as lil ken, but let's just say any season awards would be a pipe dream.

Kind of funny in a way that Purdy in his second year may win MVP and be an All Pro.... something Big Ben never sniffed in 18 years. Don't know whether to laugh or cry.

I have not seen anyone on this board qualified enough to walk us through and describe the multiplier effects that would occur if KP was at the helm of the 49ers. Maybe you are 100% right, but I guarantee some of his weaknesses would vanish outright and other opportunity areas would flourish and would appear to have a net effect of compounding interest and dividends being paid to esteem, confidence, and virtual testosterone that is difficult to isolate and measure.

Imagine getting to think about one, two, fire the ball instead of one, two, gather the slowly rolling football!

Or imagine seeing all your receivers sit properly in seams and zone intersections!

Who knows! Maybe Kenny is as dumb as a rock and has no hutzpah!

Seriously, give it a rest. Pickett sucks right now. He's a fundamentally bad QB.

Purdy has improved every aspect of that 49ers team. He is not just along for the ride. Anyone arguing that hasn't really watched the games and definitely hasn't broken down the numbers.

McCaffrey has been far more effective with Purdy under center than he was with any other QB he's played with. And there was an instant leap as soon as Purdy took over. He's keeping drives going and giving his RB more opportunities than he'd normally have.

[LakecrestSteeler]

The last few years have taught me just how much coaching and scheme matters when it comes to 95% of QBs.

Hell, Tua looked like a bust until Mike McDaniels walked in the door.

Purdy is 5x the QB Pickett is in terms of processing and decision-making, but I have no doubt he'd be middling on the Steelers compared to what he's doing with Shanahan. He wouldn't be anywhere as bad as lil ken, but let's just say any season awards would be a pipe dream.

Kind of funny in a way that Purdy in his second year may win MVP and be an All Pro.... something Big Ben never sniffed in 18 years. Don't know whether to laugh or cry.

I have not seen anyone on this board qualified enough to walk us through and describe the multiplier effects that would occur if KP was at the helm of the 49ers. Maybe you are 100% right, but I guarantee some of his weaknesses would vanish outright and other opportunity areas would flourish and would appear to have a net effect of compounding interest and dividends being paid to esteem, confidence, and virtual testosterone that is difficult to isolate and measure.

Imagine getting to think about one, two, fire the ball instead of one, two, gather the slowly rolling football!

Or imagine seeing all your receivers sit properly in seams and zone intersections!

Who knows! Maybe Kenny is as dumb as a rock and has no hutzpah!

Seriously, give it a rest. Pickett sucks right now. He's a fundamentally bad QB.

Purdy has improved every aspect of that 49ers team. He is not just along for the ride. Anyone arguing that hasn't really watched the games and definitely hasn't broken down the numbers.

McCaffrey has been far more effective with Purdy under center than he was with any other QB he's played with. And there was an instant leap as soon as Purdy took over. He's keeping drives going and giving his RB more opportunities than he'd normally have.

I won’t give it a rest.

Bunch of Mad Dog 20/20 drinkers acting like they are suddenly QB sommeliers now.

Slurp slurp swirl swirl spit….mmmmm this has a hint of the inside of a tennis ball, earthy tones, cherry, burnt oak, I believe this is a 1968 Tenuta San Guido Sassicaia Bolgheri!

Not all but many!

Acting like their small brains can handle all the variables and differences between the 49ers and Steelers in a scientifically sound comparison study conducted over terabytes of data.

If you don’t think Brock Purdy landed on 3rd base and Kenny Pickett landed on the Bad News Bears you are out to lunch!

[CKSteeler]

I think Kenny Pickett will be a career back-up at best.

Purdy will be starting in this league for a long time.

You can make whatever excuses you want to explain the career trajectories and pretend that Pickett would have succeeded only if. Meanwhile, in reality, he's a historically ineffectual QB.

[Gonzo]

This franchise and coaches is an equal problem to the talent level of our QB. Purdy would fail here.
This staff tried to dumb down and slow down Big Ben for fucks sake

[CKSteeler]

Purdy is a 2nd year QB in a good environment. A QB with his type of weapons should be putting up MVP type numbers. What is Purdy doing but putting up MVP type numbers?

There's almost nothing the guy could have done in his short time as a starter to prove himself more than he has. A QB either has or it he doesn't. And Purdy has it, and Pickett don't.

Would Purdy be in the MVP discussion in Pittsburgh? No, but he'd be out playing the historically futile Kenny Pickett by a lot.

[bradshaw2ben]

This thread is pretty damn funny.

I don’t think just ANY QB can succeed in the Kyle Shanahan or the McVay/McDaniel spin-offs of his offense, but I’m admittedly amused by the implication Kenny Pickett would not.

How would Brock Purdy look playing in the Tomlida offense? Behind Chuks and Mason freakin’ Cole?
Even the most ardent of Kenny haters knows how that scenario would play out.

I like Purdy. Kid can play. If just ANY QB could succeed in that offense, Kyle would not have approved the massive haul to acquire the oh so raw, Trey Lance.

All you ‘Bama haters said Tua would never make it in the NFL
Now he’s a front runner for the MVP playing in McDaniel’s version of the Shanny offense.
Tua and his concussion issues playing in Tomlida's offense? Behind Chuks and Mason freakin' Cole?
Even the most ardent of Kenny haters knows how that scenario would play out.

Yep. I’m no Kenny fanboy, but to imply Kenny wouldn’t be at least serviceable out in San Fran is pretty damn laughable.
GREAT system and not a weak spot at ANY position.

Most NFL QBs would kill to play in that offense.
Stafford said his much upon his trade to LA ito play in the McVay version of the Shanny offense.

“Kill Kenny” all ya want if it makes you feel better. It’s not all justified, however.
I’m not a Kenny fan either but I think he’d be at least decent with a legitimate OC let alone the best OC in the league ala Kyle Shanahan.

Agree with this take.

I think the other huge story here and ties into Drama’s take is we took Chris Oladokun at 241, 20 picks before Purdy. And did absolutely nothing with him. Nothing. That guy is now on the Chiefs roster.

People can talk Tomlin all they want, but until Art2 rolls ups his sleeves and starts diving into this fucking mess HE has created and let happen and more importantly changes and immediately expects results or else, nothing will change.

The things that Purdy does so, so well-- that makes him outstanding in the 49ers offense (processing speed, postsnap reads, accuracy) are basically the things that Pickett does least well, so, yes, I am postulating with some certainty that Pickett would not be doing nearly what Purdy is doing there.

[Greeksteel]

I think the truth is somewhere in the middle, do I think Purdy is better than pickett...yes...but Purdy in pittsburgh would not be pretty, and while i dont think pickett has any great qualities i do think Shanahan could make him serviceable.

[franco32]

IMO, Purdy would fail just as much in this dumpster fire of an offense as Pickett. That said, I don't think Pickett does nearly as well as Purdy right now in SF. I just haven't seen Pickett scan and read the field like Purdy does. So, in the end, it probably doesn't matter much we passed on Purdy. No QB would be successful in this hell hole other than maybe someone like Ben or Elway in their primes who could buy time and rifle darts downfield on broken plays.

[Greeksteel]

IMO, Purdy would fail just as much in this dumpster fire of an offense as Pickett. That said, I don't think Pickett does nearly as well as Purdy right now in SF. I just haven't seen Pickett scan and read the field like Purdy does. So, in the end, it probably doesn't matter much we passed on Purdy. No QB would be successful in this hell hole other than maybe someone like Ben or Elway in their primes who could buy time and rifle darts downfield on broken plays.

Agreed

[955876]

Purdy would fail just as much in this dumpster fire of an offense as Pickett.

I dunno bout that.

Remember a few weeks ago when Pickett missed Muth badly over the middle.

Those are easy money for Purdy. All day long.

[Stlcrtn1974]

Purdy would fail just as much in this dumpster fire of an offense as Pickett.

I dunno bout that.

Remember a few weeks ago when Pickett missed Muth badly over the middle.

Those are easy money for Purdy. All day long.

49ers are loaded on both sides of the ball. They have an exceptional coaching staff in place. The Steelers have a few pieces on both sides of the ball. They have probably the worst coaching staff in the league. Purdy is playing in another universe compared to Pickett. To think Purdy, Montana, Brady, or Ben could be playing at a high level with this situation Pickett is in is insanity. Who knows what Pickett looks like in SF throwing to wide open receivers all along being coached properly with a competent o-line. But I do know Purdy would be a shell of himself here if he was coached by Matt fucking Canada and Tomlin.

[955876]

To think Purdy, Montana, Brady, or Ben could be playing at a high level with this situation Pickett is in is insanity. Who knows what Pickett looks like in SF throwing to wide open receivers all along being coached properly with a competent o-line.

I’m not suggesting anyone would look great in this dumpster fire of an offense. However, some of why this offesne looks bad isn’t solely on the coaches as ther have been countless examples of well drawn up plays that would have led to big yards if only the players did their part.

Reason why I brought up the example I did was because on that play the oline did their part, Muth ran a great route and was wide open, and yet Pickett failed to deliver on what should be a routine pitch & catch.

I think too many want to credit everything worse for Purdy’s success without acknowledging that the QB still has to make the right read and then deliver the ball on time and accurately.


Those three things (read, on-time, accurate) is what Pickett has struggled with the most.

I recognize their scheme and players are great. But that means nothing if the QB can’t do his oart.

Just ask #3 overall Trey Lance.

So while I think Pickett could do better if in that situation, I would t go as far as to say he’d be replicating what Purdy has done.

And further, Purdy would not have missed that pass to Muth because he makes great reads and throws on time and with accuracy.

Our guy not so much.

Make sense now?

[DP39]

Purdy would fail just as much in this dumpster fire of an offense as Pickett.

I dunno bout that.

Remember a few weeks ago when Pickett missed Muth badly over the middle.

Those are easy money for Purdy. All day long.

49ers are loaded on both sides of the ball. They have an exceptional coaching staff in place. The Steelers have a few pieces on both sides of the ball. They have probably the worst coaching staff in the league. Purdy is playing in another universe compared to Pickett. To think Purdy, Montana, Brady, or Ben could be playing at a high level with this situation Pickett is in is insanity. Who knows what Pickett looks like in SF throwing to wide open receivers all along being coached properly with a competent o-line. But I do know Purdy would be a shell of himself here if he was coached by Matt fucking Canada and Tomlin.

Coaching matters for sure.

While I think Purdy has some talents that Pickett might not yet, like the mental side and overall poise, offensive coaching certainly helps a ton.

Purdy is being coached by UGA level coaches and Pickett gets mostly Norfolk State level coaching, imo.

[Orangesteel]

I think the truth is somewhere in the middle, do I think Purdy is better than pickett...yes...but Purdy in pittsburgh would not be pretty, and while i dont think pickett has any great qualities i do think Shanahan could make him serviceable.

I’m here too Greek. To Purdy’s credit, the Niners sold the farm to draft Lance and he had a few years to work in the Shanahan system which is for sure loaded, but even taking into account the injuries he looked bad. Based on what we’ve seen from Jimmy G, I’d also say that Shanahan got what he could of out of Jimmy but he’s not putting up Purdy’s numbers.

Purdy’s processing is wildly good. You can throw any kind of blitz package at him or drop everyone and it’s like he’s seeing it all develop on slow motion.

This past week, the play that blew me away was the third and long when the game was still very close. They brought the house and Purdy threw a dime to Kittle over the middle that went for about 30 yards. It was a perfect pass with a guy barreling down on him.

If people want to call Purdy a system QB that’s fine but make no mistake, he’s a major part of the system. Best offense I’ve seen in a looooooooooong time.

[Jizz Mop]

Ben’s issue was that his career mostly overlapped the careers of Tom Brady, Peyton Manning, and Aaron Rodgers. Three excellent QBs, as was Ben, but also three QBs that were/are huge media darlings. Ben never had a serious chance.
Purdy has been excellent, but with Mahomes having a “down” season by his standards, his main competition for MVP, is his teammate CMC, Tua, and Dak, who may or may not be about to embark on his annual late season choke job.

Plus, that “game manager” label stuck so Ben rarely got the credit the others did.

Plus Ben played for the Steelers, an organization rooted to its core in the philosophy that the only way to win is through defense and ball control. Aside from maybe 2 years of Ben’s career they never really tried to outscore teams or let the QB cook.

Never was that so evident as the playoff losses to Clowns, Jags, etc where the defense really made statements. Defense wins championships….that notion coupled with the defensive genius of Mike Tomlin….well, that’s quite a hurdle for guys like Blake Bortles to overcome

[Greeksteel]

I think the truth is somewhere in the middle, do I think Purdy is better than pickett...yes...but Purdy in pittsburgh would not be pretty, and while i dont think pickett has any great qualities i do think Shanahan could make him serviceable.

I’m here too Greek. To Purdy’s credit, the Niners sold the farm to draft Lance and he had a few years to work in the Shanahan system which is for sure loaded, but even taking into account the injuries he looked bad. Based on what we’ve seen from Jimmy G, I’d also say that Shanahan got what he could of out of Jimmy but he’s not putting up Purdy’s numbers.

Purdy’s processing is wildly good. You can throw any kind of blitz package at him or drop everyone and it’s like he’s seeing it all develop on slow motion.

This past week, the play that blew me away was the third and long when the game was still very close. They brought the house and Purdy threw a dime to Kittle over the middle that went for about 30 yards. It was a perfect pass with a guy barreling down on him.

If people want to call Purdy a system QB that’s fine but make no mistake, he’s a major part of the system. Best offense I’ve seen in a looooooooooong time.

I dont disagree with you either, repeating myself but hes clearly better than the entire NFL thought, i dont think it hurts him at ll to have a loaded roster and arguably the best offensive coaching in the league is all im saying. Purdy would be a massive question mark at best in Pittsburgh in my opinion. Pickett whatever his ceiling is, would more likely be hit in SF as opposed to Pittsburgh. Again i do think Purdy is much better than Pickett.

[955876]

If people want to call Purdy a system QB that’s fine but make no mistake, he’s a major part of the system. Best offense I’ve seen in a looooooooooong time.

Agreed. And I’m as long a Niner hater as I am a Steelers fan.

I live in Niners country. These cunts always think their guy is the “best ever”. It’s nauseating.

Shit, most of my wife’s relatives are Niner fans.

Most of my colleagues, friends, and clients are Niners fans.

I’ve hated the Niners my whole life.

This current version is hard to hate. I wish we were them.

They have an offensive minded HC running the best scheme in the league while still deploying a top defensive unit.

Very envious.

In years past I REALLY cared bout the Niners passing us in SB victories.

I don’t care anymore.

If they make it I’m going NFC and pulling for them.