KP8 Crow

[W&M_Steeler]

Still waiting for that Burrow-esqe leap. Tough to do when you are wearing a headset and holding a clipboard.

At least he looked and acted like a pissy baby in his press conference: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A5IdjsbKWnk

Limited skills, fragile ego... he doesn't appear to be a franchise QB to me. But what should we have expected from a QB who didn't excel until he was a super senior in college and whose most famous college play was a lame, cheap fake slide?

That’s a tough spot for him to be in though. I’ve always said that Kenny seems very likable (as opposed to Mahomes or Brady) but that will only get him so far.

Yeah I hadn’t watched that press conference. That’s a really tough spot for him to be in. I dunno, I hate shitting on guys I want to be good. If he was an asshole it would be a lot easier to root against him haha!

It's not close to Ryan Leaf territory or anything, but I thought him snapping at the reporter in response to an innocuous question was pretty dickish. It also made him seem arrogant and a little stupid- he really didn't learn anything from being on the sidelines the last month?

I haven't really had an opinion about the non-football side of KP's personality before this, but he seems to be struggling to come to terms with the fact that the team looked much better with Mason than it ever did with him and is getting defensive. Not a great look.

[langer]

Kenny Touchdown has had bad body language every time I see him, especially this year.

He looks like a total loser, like an immature kid, not a grown man.

It's like he's lost mentally. We know he's getting no help from the brilliant geniuses that run this team, which is unfortunate for him.

I want to feel sorry for him, but he doesn't appear to warrant it.

Has he been coddled his entire life? He isn't handling adversity well.

He could have said "Mason played a great game, good to see him succeeding" or "I picked up a few things in terms of coverage, Mason's a veteran" or something about improving.

"NAH". Jagoff.

[franco32]

He's pissed. I get it. He's human. He hasn't performed well and I'm sure he's frustrated at not having more post-Canada playing time. I'm not sure why the Steelers trotted him out there for that interview to begin with. Nothing good was going to come of that. Frankly, I would expect a competitor to be pissed. I've never felt Kenny had an "ego" so that isn't a real concern. He just hasn't done enough to merit even having an ego.

[Rod & Wire Mill]

The org has broken him. Why? Standard answer across the board: Tomlin. In Ken’s case coupled with Canada. Remember that Rudolph never played in real games under Canada. Whatever Ken’s prospects may have been are now gone. Whether he can recover and have some kind of career is as one of my friends used to say a mute point.

[Works At A Bank]

So, who had "fewer TD passes for the season than Joe Flacco and getting benched for Mason Rudolph to start a must-win week 17 game" in their pre-season KP8 predictions

I'm not calling you out, Works at a Bank (there are many wild takes in the first few pages of this thread), but I'm bumping this thread because it was a perfect example of the irrational pre-season overhype for this team and KP8 that was everywhere. Hopefully next season we (including the coaching staff) remember the pre-season is basically meaningless and there's no such thing as "pre-season mojo."

Hey man…I’ve already eaten that shit sandwich in this thread. I unlike a few on this site…can admit when I was wrong. You won’t find me dying on a hill over a lost cause. But for the record…it was also his late season games in 22 that also sparked my interest. Lots of long sustained drives for wins. Then the fluff pieces of how he’s put so much work in the offseason…i will admit I was encouraged by preseason but mostly because of what I saw towards the end of 2022. Fuck KP8 and the whole fucking offense. Lol

[bradshaw2ben]

So, who had "fewer TD passes for the season than Joe Flacco and getting benched for Mason Rudolph to start a must-win week 17 game" in their pre-season KP8 predictions

I'm not calling you out, Works at a Bank (there are many wild takes in the first few pages of this thread), but I'm bumping this thread because it was a perfect example of the irrational pre-season overhype for this team and KP8 that was everywhere. Hopefully next season we (including the coaching staff) remember the pre-season is basically meaningless and there's no such thing as "pre-season mojo."

Hey man…I’ve already eaten that shit sandwich in this thread. I unlike a few on this site…can admit when I was wrong. You won’t find me dying on a hill over a lost cause. But for the record…it was also his late season games in 22 that also sparked my interest. Lots of long sustained drives for wins. Then the fluff pieces of how he’s put so much work in the offseason…i will admit I was encouraged by preseason but mostly because of what I saw towards the end of 2022. Fuck KP8 and the whole fucking offense. Lol

I said at the time and continued to beat the drum during the offseason: those late season games were one step above preseason. Beaten down teams. Tanking. Injured. QBs missing. Teams limping home.

And it's also telling that KP didn't deliver any of that while they were in contention. It was only when the pressure was off at 2-6 and they were playing with house money that he led some rallies.

[SteelerDayTrader]

So, who had "fewer TD passes for the season than Joe Flacco and getting benched for Mason Rudolph to start a must-win week 17 game" in their pre-season KP8 predictions

I'm not calling you out, Works at a Bank (there are many wild takes in the first few pages of this thread), but I'm bumping this thread because it was a perfect example of the irrational pre-season overhype for this team and KP8 that was everywhere. Hopefully next season we (including the coaching staff) remember the pre-season is basically meaningless and there's no such thing as "pre-season mojo."

Hey man…I’ve already eaten that shit sandwich in this thread. I unlike a few on this site…can admit when I was wrong. You won’t find me dying on a hill over a lost cause. But for the record…it was also his late season games in 22 that also sparked my interest. Lots of long sustained drives for wins. Then the fluff pieces of how he’s put so much work in the offseason…i will admit I was encouraged by preseason but mostly because of what I saw towards the end of 2022. Fuck KP8 and the whole fucking offense. Lol

I said at the time and continued to beat the drum during the offseason: those late season games were one step above preseason. Beaten down teams. Tanking. Injured. QBs missing. Teams limping home.

And it's also telling that KP didn't deliver any of that while they were in contention. It was only when the pressure was off at 2-6 and they were playing with house money that he led some rallies.

[zeke5123]

The org has broken him. Why? Standard answer across the board: Tomlin. In Ken’s case coupled with Canada. Remember that Rudolph never played in real games under Canada. Whatever Ken’s prospects may have been are now gone. Whether he can recover and have some kind of career is as one of my friends used to say a mute point.

Not big time recruit coming into college. Pedestrian college career until his fifth year. What makes anyone think he was a good prospect to start with?

[955876]

What makes anyone think he was a good prospect to start with?

He went to Pitt. Which rates just slightly higher than “has a brother on the team”

[Rod & Wire Mill]

The org has broken him. Why? Standard answer across the board: Tomlin. In Ken’s case coupled with Canada. Remember that Rudolph never played in real games under Canada. Whatever Ken’s prospects may have been are now gone. Whether he can recover and have some kind of career is as one of my friends used to say a mute point.

Not big time recruit coming into college. Pedestrian college career until his fifth year. What makes anyone think he was a good prospect to start with?

My contention is that whatever prospect/potential he may have had has been broken by playing under Tomlinada with Meyer’s oline. They also are responsible for (no pun intended) picking him. It ain’t the arrow, it’s the archer.

[W&M_Steeler]

This is exactly why it is so difficult to evaluate QBs and why I especially hate when people talk about a QB’s “ceiling”. It’s almost comical. KP8 has as much arm talent as Tom Brady. Yes, I know (and B2B said this the last time I brought it up) that comparing a rookie (now second year player) to an all time great or unicorn isn’t going to be the most apt analogy the vast majority of times, but it’s also precisely why you cannot and should not write a signal caller off early for “tools” reasons. Once certain minimum thresholds have been reached, the most important attributes are passing accuracy and football IQ. KP8 appears to have those in spades.

Aside over and back to KP8, what makes him this good even early is his decision making and accuracy, especially on the move. He is also a very underrated athlete. And I have not seen very many QBs with his accuracy on the move, particularly when going to his left. Uncanny. KP8 has the potential to be something truly special. Time will tell but I have been and continue to be very optimistic about his growth in year 2.

For the haters:

Do Tomlin and Khan have to fill out one of these sheets now?

[DP39]

This is exactly why it is so difficult to evaluate QBs and why I especially hate when people talk about a QB’s “ceiling”. It’s almost comical. KP8 has as much arm talent as Tom Brady. Yes, I know (and B2B said this the last time I brought it up) that comparing a rookie (now second year player) to an all time great or unicorn isn’t going to be the most apt analogy the vast majority of times, but it’s also precisely why you cannot and should not write a signal caller off early for “tools” reasons. Once certain minimum thresholds have been reached, the most important attributes are passing accuracy and football IQ. KP8 appears to have those in spades.

Aside over and back to KP8, what makes him this good even early is his decision making and accuracy, especially on the move. He is also a very underrated athlete. And I have not seen very many QBs with his accuracy on the move, particularly when going to his left. Uncanny. KP8 has the potential to be something truly special. Time will tell but I have been and continue to be very optimistic about his growth in year 2.

For the haters:

Do Tomlin and Khan have to fill out one of these sheets now?

[W&M_Steeler]

Kenny Touchdown has had bad body language every time I see him, especially this year.

He looks like a total loser, like an immature kid, not a grown man.

It's like he's lost mentally. We know he's getting no help from the brilliant geniuses that run this team, which is unfortunate for him.

I want to feel sorry for him, but he doesn't appear to warrant it.

Has he been coddled his entire life? He isn't handling adversity well.

He could have said "Mason played a great game, good to see him succeeding" or "I picked up a few things in terms of coverage, Mason's a veteran" or something about improving.

"NAH". Jagoff.

You were completely right langer. KP's pouting was a symptom of a larger problem- he's a weak douche who's not very good. Glad he's the Eagles' problem now. Too bad the Steelers wasted a 1st on him. Great job Colbert.

[.Kodiak]

Well, I guess some are going to have to make like a crow and regurgitate their meal....

[K_C_]

I still like Pickett and think he could develop.

Getting away from Tomlin’s ultra conservative offense could be the best thing for him.

Never understood the hate but I’m sure Russell Wilson will tear it up under Cool Shades.

Good luck KP8!!!

[Havoc]

I still like Pickett and think he could develop.

Getting away from Tomlin’s ultra conservative offense could be the best thing for him.

Never understood the hate but I’m sure Russell Wilson will test it up under Cool Shades.

Good luck KP8!!!

Tomlin/Canada/Meyer/a bad OL... were a total disaster for a guy who needed a great system to survive and have a reasonable chance to develop. The very elite QB toolkits would have shown franchise potential flashes in spite of the variables but noone should underestimate the utter sports dogshit sandwich Pickett was given to eat.

I am glad Pickett is gone though. We need more physical tools at the QB position in our non QB friendly franchise.

[W&M_Steeler]

It's hard to comprehend how bad the 2023 Steelers were on offense for most of last year.

[K_C_]

So, who had "fewer TD passes for the season than Joe Flacco and getting benched for Mason Rudolph to start a must-win week 17 game" in their pre-season KP8 predictions

I'm not calling you out, Works at a Bank (there are many wild takes in the first few pages of this thread), but I'm bumping this thread because it was a perfect example of the irrational pre-season overhype for this team and KP8 that was everywhere. Hopefully next season we (including the coaching staff) remember the pre-season is basically meaningless and there's no such thing as "pre-season mojo."

Hey man…I’ve already eaten that shit sandwich in this thread. I unlike a few on this site…can admit when I was wrong. You won’t find me dying on a hill over a lost cause. But for the record…it was also his late season games in 22 that also sparked my interest. Lots of long sustained drives for wins. Then the fluff pieces of how he’s put so much work in the offseason…i will admit I was encouraged by preseason but mostly because of what I saw towards the end of 2022. Fuck KP8 and the whole fucking offense. Lol

I said at the time and continued to beat the drum during the offseason: those late season games were one step above preseason. Beaten down teams. Tanking. Injured. QBs missing. Teams limping home.

And it's also telling that KP didn't deliver any of that while they were in contention. It was only when the pressure was off at 2-6 and they were playing with house money that he led some rallies.

Will Levis' 3 wins last season were against....wait for it.....Carolina, Atlanta and a Miami team that is always a pile of dogshit at the end of the season and always will be as long as Tua is there.

Quite the murderer’s row when it comes to his wins last year.

[Stlcrtn1974]

It's hard to comprehend how bad the 2023 Steelers were on offense for most of last year.

I hope 2024 isn't a repeat. I have a bad feeling Wilson is gonna suck. I just pray they don't trade for Trubisky's replacement. On second thought, if it get Tomlin fired though

[W&M_Steeler]

It's hard to comprehend how bad the 2023 Steelers were on offense for most of last year.

I hope 2024 isn't a repeat. I have a bad feeling Wilson is gonna suck. I just pray they don't trade for Trubisky's replacement. On second thought, if it get Tomlin fired though

I don't think it could possibly be worse than the first half of last year. Arthur Smith is at least an NFL-quality OC. Canada will never again get a job in the NFL and probably not college. Neither will his predecessor Fichtner. If Russ' play this year is equivalent to what it was in Denver, then it would still be the best QB play the Steelers have had since Ben retired. It will be hard to find a center worse than Cole. And so on.

The Steelers offense has been putrid for years, arguably since Ben blew out his elbow week 2 2019. I don't think we have anywhere to go but up.

[langer]

It's hard to comprehend how bad the 2023 Steelers were on offense for most of last year.

I hope 2024 isn't a repeat. I have a bad feeling Wilson is gonna suck. I just pray they don't trade for Trubisky's replacement. On second thought, if it get Tomlin fired though

I fear the team will be a lot better at mediocrity this season.

[Orangesteel]

Yeah where is Smashmouth to defend his boy Kenny Pickett.

The guy that refused to suit up while his team was fighting tooth and nail in Seattle then Baltimore to make the playoffs.

Oh that’s right, he’s a little bitch.

[Smashmouth21]

Yeah where is Smashmouth to defend his boy Kenny Pickett.

The guy that refused to suit up while his team was fighting tooth and nail in Seattle then Baltimore to make the playoffs.

Oh that’s right, he’s a little bitch.

KP Eagle is not my boy. I ate my crow once already like a man (some of y’all need to take notes). At least use lube the second time around. Sheesh.

[Thrillsseeker]

I will admit I was stoked after last years pre-season.

Drove 5+hrs to the Burgh week 1 and watched that SF beatdown in person.

Still hoped Kenny would turn into all star status.

Thought our dufus head coach, our shitty center and o-line play with the worst O-coordinator in the league for way too many years was going to Doom Kenny.

Still hoped he’d transcend over all those turds.

Watching the film breakdown and the articles (and posts here) spell doom that Kenny was struggling reading zone defense etc and I started to be fearful he wasn’t going to make it. Was hoping he’d figure that out and become great.

The shit sandwiches he started off with is one thing, learning nothing from being on the sidelines and being an ass is another. He’s gone now so I don’t give a single fuck how his career turns out now.

Heard Pat Kirwan today say he heard that some people in the Org didn’t want him when he was drafted. Thought that was interesting. Maybe It’ll come out at some point of who those ppl were. Doubtful.

[zeke5123]

I still like Pickett and think he could develop.

Getting away from Tomlin’s ultra conservative offense could be the best thing for him.

Never understood the hate but I’m sure Russell Wilson will tear it up under Cool Shades.

Good luck KP8!!!

Fat, drunk, and stupid is no way to go through life.

[langer]

Kenny Pro Footballer doesn’t have the mentality.

I’m glad they dumped that jagoff. Quit on his team, for a manchild of zero pedigree that’s not forgivable. He lives on potential.

I’m optimistic now.

[K_C_]

I still like Pickett and think he could develop.

Getting away from Tomlin’s ultra conservative offense could be the best thing for him.

Never understood the hate but I’m sure Russell Wilson will tear it up under Cool Shades.

Good luck KP8!!!

Fat, drunk, and stupid is no way to go through life.

Well, I sure hope you pull it together!!

I know you can do it!! I believe in you!!

[zeke5123]

I still like Pickett and think he could develop.

Getting away from Tomlin’s ultra conservative offense could be the best thing for him.

Never understood the hate but I’m sure Russell Wilson will tear it up under Cool Shades.

Good luck KP8!!!

Fat, drunk, and stupid is no way to go through life.

Well, I sure hope you pull it together!!

I know you can do it!! I believe in you!!

Ha I knew you’d try to comeback with this predictable response. Maybe you should reconsider your wisdom after being wrong for about the billionth team in a row.

[K_C_]

Fat, drunk, and stupid is no way to go through life.

Well, I sure hope you pull it together!!

I know you can do it!! I believe in you!!

Ha I knew you’d try to comeback with this predictable response. Maybe you should reconsider your wisdom after being wrong for about the billionth team in a row.

Pssssst….we didn’t contend for shit the last decade of Ben Roethlisberger’s career. Rudolph failed, Trubisky failed,
Pickett failed and yes, Ben failed once Cowher’s players hit the pavement.

I’m not worried in the least bit about being wrong. I’ll root for anybody the Steelers have at QB and just like you and everyone else posting on this site, I’m not qualified to work in player personnel for any NFL team.

The one thing you need to understand is that this team, no matter who the QB is, isn’t contending for a championship until Mike Tomlin hits the bricks.

Unless they land a young Roethlisberger type or find the next Patrick Mahomes, who can somehow overcome Tomlin’s love of attrition football, it doesn’t matter who in the fuck plays QB for the Steelers, but I’ll be rooting for Russell Wilson all the same.

Now go celebrate the Pickett trade down a few blocks over at your uncle dad’s double wide.

[tbsteel]

I've never felt Kenny had an "ego" so that isn't a real concern.

Well, you were obviously wrong. He was completely entitled and that directly speaks to his ego.