STD gets his wish - Low Watt imaginary trade to Falcons

[Jizz Mop]

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Would be great to finally rid ourselves of this loser

/s

[Greeksteel]

Id do that deal

[Jizz Mop]

Id do that deal

And with that, unleash the troll

[Charles Demarr]

Id do that deal

Not going to lie, I love TJ, and I would do that deal in a heartbeat.

[gojira5150]

A tempting deal to say the least BUT there's No guarantee those 2 draft picks will turn out to be anything special (we know what we have in Watt and he is a defensive monster).

If this deal were made, I'd hope the Steelers would just move on and cut Heyward (I don't know how much this would save the Steelers) and use that $ to upgrade some positions.

[.Kodiak]

The problem is, PIT has convinced themselves they are just a player or two, but mostly a few bounces of the ball here and there, away from going to the SB. They made the playoffs last year, and they believe the rest is just luck of the draw.

What that means is they will NEVER trade Watt for any deal, no matter how good. Because, in their view, that would set the team back and possibly prevent them from winning a SB this year.


Best anyone can hope for is they finally move on from Tomlin after another playoff humiliation this year. Then a new HC might want some draft and cap capital to build the roster he wants.

[steelclan]

Silly season in full swing. Trading Najee or Highsmith? That I can see. Knowing this organization, Watt will retire here.

[K_C_]

The problem is, PIT has convinced themselves they are just a player or two, but mostly a few bounces of the ball here and there, away from going to the SB. They made the playoffs last year, and they believe the rest is just luck of the draw.

What that means is they will NEVER trade Watt for any deal, no matter how good. Because, in their view, that would set the team back and possibly prevent them from winning a SB this year.


Best anyone can hope for is they finally move on from Tomlin after another playoff humiliation this year. Then a new HC might want some draft and cap capital to build the roster he wants.

The Steelers obviously don’t believe they are only a player or 2 away from being in a Super Bowl if they 100% turned over their entire QB room and traded a starting WR (not to mention cutting their starting center, RT and the LT that started the majority of last season who will probably be relegated to a backup role.)

When you do that, it doesn’t scream you’re 1 or 2 players away.

They are however, making a ton of moves and might not be done wheeling and dealing on draft day.

They are overhauling the team pretty severely this offseason.

[Jobu]

A tempting deal to say the least BUT there's No guarantee those 2 draft picks will turn out to be anything special (we know what we have in Watt and he is a defensive monster).

If this deal were made, I'd hope the Steelers would just move on and cut Heyward (I don't know how much this would save the Steelers) and use that $ to upgrade some positions.

This boards love affair with draft picks is comical. Sorta like the Prates FO and prospects.

[BouldernBun]

The problem is, PIT has convinced themselves they are just a player or two, but mostly a few bounces of the ball here and there, away from going to the SB. They made the playoffs last year, and they believe the rest is just luck of the draw.

What that means is they will NEVER trade Watt for any deal, no matter how good. Because, in their view, that would set the team back and possibly prevent them from winning a SB this year.


Best anyone can hope for is they finally move on from Tomlin after another playoff humiliation this year. Then a new HC might want some draft and cap capital to build the roster he wants.

The Steelers obviously don’t believe they are only a player or 2 away from being in a Super Bowl if they 100% turned over their entire QB room and traded a starting WR (not to mention cutting their starting center, RT and the LT that started the majority of last season who will probably be relegated to a backup role.)

When you do that, it doesn’t scream you’re 1 or 2 players away.

They are however, making a ton of moves and might not be done wheeling and dealing on draft day.

They are overhauling the team pretty severely this offseason.

I think when this years very uncharacteristic overhaul is complete, they will, at that point, actually believe that they are only a couple players (or a bounce of the ball) away. When that fails, MT will get one more chance to draft his guy (again) at QB. When that fails, we shall finally be released (and so will MT).

[.Kodiak]

When you do that, it doesn’t scream you’re 1 or 2 players away.

Really? Seems like they think they were a QB and WR away....

[tbsteel]

I'm only trading Watt + draft capital to move up and get our next QB.

[K_C_]

When you do that, it doesn’t scream you’re 1 or 2 players away.

Really? Seems like they think they were a QB and WR away....

...and a starting RT and a starting Center....and a starting corner opposite JPJ and most definitely help at ILB, SS and we're very close to needing Cam Heyward's replacement (dude should probably be cut now, but won't be.)

I give the Steelers a ton of credit for making the decision to move on from Pickett (I still wonder how much Kenny's behavior since the end of the season helped make that decision for Khan and Tomlin) which couldn't have been an easy one. They ripped the bandage off the whole QB room but we also have to be realistic here.

We have an old Russell Wilson that the Broncos are paying a hundred million bucks NOT to play football for them and Justin Fields. His warts are only too well known.

The Steelers are reshaping their roster and really look like they are making major improvements but do I believe they are going to move from barely making the playoffs to being actual Super Bowl contenders with Russell Wilson and Justin Fields?

I'm not going to believe that until I see it.

[K_C_]

I'm only trading Watt + draft capital to move up and get our next QB.

We don't agree often, but we do here.

If I'm parting with one of the greatest defensive players in Steelers history (and Watt is right up there with the greatest of all time) I'm only doing that if I'm getting a franchise QB.

Not a possible franchise QB, but what John Cusack was looking for in "The Sure Thing."

No fucking way I deal a legendary player like Watt for anything less.

[Stallworth16]

Aren’t we supposed to wait for April Fools for hypothetical BS that won’t happen? And in this case, would be a huge mistake.

[Steelperch]

I’ve seen dominant edge rushers be the difference in a Championship team a lot of times. I’ve never seen a RT even considered a major reason why a team won a title. Trading the best defensive player in the game for a RT is asinine. Carry on.

[W&M_Steeler]

The problem is, PIT has convinced themselves they are just a player or two, but mostly a few bounces of the ball here and there, away from going to the SB. They made the playoffs last year, and they believe the rest is just luck of the draw.

What that means is they will NEVER trade Watt for any deal, no matter how good. Because, in their view, that would set the team back and possibly prevent them from winning a SB this year.


Best anyone can hope for is they finally move on from Tomlin after another playoff humiliation this year. Then a new HC might want some draft and cap capital to build the roster he wants.

I agree that they'd never trade Watt, but I don't think they believe they're one player away from the Super Bowl. I think Tomlin is finally feeling some pressure because the NHALS narrative is being eclipsed in the wider sports media by "hasn't won a playoff game in 7 seasons." All of these moves this offseason have been made with the goal of securing NHALS and winning 1 playoff game. Doing so would reset the media narrative to "Tomlin is one of the greatest of all time- a true leader of men" for another decade. Anything beyond winning a single playoff game is unnecessary to accomplish this.

[SteelerDayTrader]

The optimal time to unload Watt was a few years ago

Now that it’s becoming common knowledge he’s a late game choker and an injury concern you are gonna start seeing bs articles like this one

Watt for an 8 and a 43 ??? Hell no.

If it was Watt for essentially Jayden Daniels plus 43 and a 3rd I’d consider it

This team doesn’t have a top QB

Until it does things are going to be more difficult

[SteelerDayTrader]

I’ve seen dominant edge rushers be the difference in a Championship team a lot of times. I’ve never seen a RT even considered a major reason why a team won a title. Trading the best defensive player in the game for a RT is asinine. Carry on.

[zeke5123]

When you do that, it doesn’t scream you’re 1 or 2 players away.

Really? Seems like they think they were a QB and WR away....

...and a starting RT and a starting Center....and a starting corner opposite JPJ and most definitely help at ILB, SS and we're very close to needing Cam Heyward's replacement (dude should probably be cut now, but won't be.)

I give the Steelers a ton of credit for making the decision to move on from Pickett (I still wonder how much Kenny's behavior since the end of the season helped make that decision for Khan and Tomlin) which couldn't have been an easy one. They ripped the bandage off the whole QB room but we also have to be realistic here.

We have an old Russell Wilson that the Broncos are paying a hundred million bucks NOT to play football for them and Justin Fields. His warts are only too well known.

The Steelers are reshaping their roster and really look like they are making major improvements but do I believe they are going to move from barely making the playoffs to being actual Super Bowl contenders with Russell Wilson and Justin Fields?

I'm not going to believe that until I see it.

The problem is this team wasn’t really the caliber of “barely making the playoffs.” They had a lot of luck to get there last year. I think they did improve a lot (including at the signal caller position) but those improvements probably offset the likely luck regression.

[Jams]

I'm only trading Watt + draft capital to move up and get our next QB.

Absolutely, Edge rushed is only second in value to a team after the QB.

[CKSteeler]

Really? Seems like they think they were a QB and WR away....

...and a starting RT and a starting Center....and a starting corner opposite JPJ and most definitely help at ILB, SS and we're very close to needing Cam Heyward's replacement (dude should probably be cut now, but won't be.)

I give the Steelers a ton of credit for making the decision to move on from Pickett (I still wonder how much Kenny's behavior since the end of the season helped make that decision for Khan and Tomlin) which couldn't have been an easy one. They ripped the bandage off the whole QB room but we also have to be realistic here.

We have an old Russell Wilson that the Broncos are paying a hundred million bucks NOT to play football for them and Justin Fields. His warts are only too well known.

The Steelers are reshaping their roster and really look like they are making major improvements but do I believe they are going to move from barely making the playoffs to being actual Super Bowl contenders with Russell Wilson and Justin Fields?

I'm not going to believe that until I see it.

The problem is this team wasn’t really the caliber of “barely making the playoffs.” They had a lot of luck to get there last year. I think they did improve a lot (including at the signal caller position) but those improvements probably offset the likely luck regression.

There's like one roster in the NFL I'd called loaded, and that's the 49ers. Then you have the Chiefs who are Mahomes and duct tape on offense a lot like the early Patriots dynasty.

The Steelers have holes and I'm not sure they didn't just spin their wheels this off-season with all these moves, but the roster talent is there to where if they had the right coaching and right QB play, they could compete for a championship. Or at least make a serious playoff run.

They have neither of those things and this trade doesn't get them either of those things.

Last year was one of the most mediocre seasons in the NFL since god knows when. I think you're going back to the early 2000's to answer that question.

[alancac98]

What's our record without Watt in the lineup? But, I would agree - the only way you trade Watt is to get a top tier QB! He is worth a top QB plus a couple other players, so the trade would need to be big for the Steelers!

[franco32]

Rooney is not going to let go of a cornerstone player like Watt. On top of being the best of the best, he's also good at kissing up to Tomlin and management. So, they won't let him go.

[cop1211]

If they suck this year I’d be in on trading Watt and Fitzpatrick to go for a franchise QB. Without that you ain’t going to win shit.