Steelers at Falcons Game 1 Comments & Complaints

[W&M_Steeler]

This is going to be the exciting QB competition since Mason vs. Duck.

Fields is in a new system and played pretty damn well.

They will open it up for him more when he gets comfortable.

He didn't turn it over once.

How 'bout we look at his salary vs Kirk Cousins?

And take a look at Caleb Williams's stat line today. Chicago is where QB's go to die. Tomlin is Tomlin when it comes to game planning, but that Chicago system is so pathetic. I don't judge Fields off his stats there in Chicago.

If Pittsburgh is so much better than Chicago for QBs, then why did Mitch Trubisky do so much better in Chicago than he did in Pittsburgh? Maybe Fields blossoms into a quality starting QB in Pittsburgh, but I wouldn't hold my breath. His 200 yard, 0 TD offensive explosion today didn't exactly make me think he's the next Mahomes.

[Orangesteel]

Russell Wilson needs to start.

Gardner Minshew is a guy I swore up and down the Steelers should have signed and he looks great right now.

This is all there really is to it;

The Pittsburgh Steelers haven’t a fucking clue what they are doing with the QB position. Not a damn clue.

[W&M_Steeler]

Cheering for losses make no sense. Teams that lose, more often than not, continue to lose. Expecting to win for losing sounds quite asinine from my perspective.

Teams that win typically do so because of doing the right things. I cannot recall a scenario where a program of - losing week-in and week-out - was part of a well conceived plan for long term success.

In what reality does the above work? If a team had that sort of authority over winning, then there would be no reason to prove it through failure first. Just start winning now.

Remember "Suck for Luck"? How well did that work out for them?

It worked out pretty well in the beginning, until Luck decided he didn't want to play anymore.

[Orangesteel]

Luck was a top tier QB. Really damn good.

What happened speaks nothing as to that

[K_C_]

Fields is in a new system and played pretty damn well.

They will open it up for him more when he gets comfortable.

He didn't turn it over once.

How 'bout we look at his salary vs Kirk Cousins?

And take a look at Caleb Williams's stat line today. Chicago is where QB's go to die. Tomlin is Tomlin when it comes to game planning, but that Chicago system is so pathetic. I don't judge Fields off his stats there in Chicago.

If Pittsburgh is so much better than Chicago for QBs, then why did Mitch Trubisky do so much better in Chicago than he did in Pittsburgh? Maybe Fields blossoms into a quality starting QB in Pittsburgh, but I wouldn't hold my breath. His 200 yard, 0 TD offensive explosion today didn't exactly make me think he's the next Mahomes.

Um...dude.....Trubisky started his career playing FAIRLY well in 2 of his first 3 years and then was so awful after that, he was released by the Bears.

Released.

A second overall pick.

Just cut.

That's why he was available for the Steelers to sign and for some imbecilic reason, the Steelers gave Mitch a pretty large free agent contract, hoping he could start the 2022 season while Kenny Pickett watched Mitch and learned how it was done.

Mitch lasted what....4 games? He was booed off the field during a home game against the Jets. Kenny Pickett and Mason Rudolph left Pittsburgh with winning records.

Mitch left Pittsburgh with a 4-10 record.

Mitch, along with Kent Graham and possibly Cliff Stoudt, were the worst QB's I've ever seen play for the Steelers.

[jebrick]

I only have to think of the Browns fans cheering for loses as they tanked for 2 seasons. I has gotten them 1 playoff loss.

[Steelperch]

Fields played way above Caleb Williams today with worse weapons. Fields day today was better than anything in lil Ken’s career. Imagine if he was actually entrenched as the starter and they game planned for him. My major concern with Fields is ball security and reading defenses. If they’re smart and use his mobility to limit his reads, they’re on to something. Look at the Ravens with Lamar. He has the same issues as Fields.

So who's the starter next week?

If we had a real NFL offense that valued the passing game and scoring TDs I’d start Wilson. With the ball control and run heavy scheme that Smith and Tomlin want, Fields is a better fit. It’s better for the franchise to see if Fields is the future because Wilson is too old to be it.

Who will they start next week? Who knows, but I’m sure it will be a debate internally if Wilson is healthy.

[K_C_]

I only have to think of the Browns fans cheering for loses as they tanked for 2 seasons. I has gotten them 1 playoff loss.

Justin Fields very possibly is better than Bill Cosby Jr.

[W&M_Steeler]

I only have to think of the Browns fans cheering for loses as they tanked for 2 seasons. I has gotten them 1 playoff loss.

That's because they were moronic and threw away nearly a half decade of 1st round picks for a washed Deshaun Watson when they had a respectable starter in Baker Mayfield. They had something going but self-destructed. I think they would have been in a better spot had they stuck with Baker and kept their picks.

Besides, they had a playoff win against the Steelers. I think they' 1-2 in the playoffs over the past 5 seasons, which is better than the Steelers have been during that stretch.

[K_C_]

Fields played way above Caleb Williams today with worse weapons. Fields day today was better than anything in lil Ken’s career. Imagine if he was actually entrenched as the starter and they game planned for him. My major concern with Fields is ball security and reading defenses. If they’re smart and use his mobility to limit his reads, they’re on to something. Look at the Ravens with Lamar. He has the same issues as Fields.

So who's the starter next week?

If we had a real NFL offense that valued the passing game and scoring TDs I’d start Wilson. With the ball control and run heavy scheme that Smith and Tomlin want, Fields is a better fit. It’s better for the franchise to see if Fields is the future because Wilson is too old to be it.

Who will they start next week? Who knows, but I’m sure it will be a debate internally if Wilson is healthy.

Fields made too many play with his legs today. He isn't a statue like Russ.

If the Steelers had an incredible o-line, I would 100% say Wilson should be the starter. I was excited when the Steelers signed Wilson but right now, I ride Fields.

Zero turnovers is huge. Cousins had I believe 3 turnovers and tried to turn it over about 6 times. Fields didn't come close to turning it over. He wasn't Joe Montana sharp but he played well. The conservative play calling put him behind the 8 Ball numerous times and dude didn't panic.

I believe Tomlin tells Russ; "Don't rush that calf injury back. Work yourself back to health because we're gonna need you." You rush a calf injury back on the field and you end up with a torn achilles.

Wilson will very likely play plenty this season but save the guy until he's healthy and Fields' play warrants a change at that position.

Russ is a team first guy. He'll get it.

[W&M_Steeler]

And take a look at Caleb Williams's stat line today. Chicago is where QB's go to die. Tomlin is Tomlin when it comes to game planning, but that Chicago system is so pathetic. I don't judge Fields off his stats there in Chicago.

If Pittsburgh is so much better than Chicago for QBs, then why did Mitch Trubisky do so much better in Chicago than he did in Pittsburgh? Maybe Fields blossoms into a quality starting QB in Pittsburgh, but I wouldn't hold my breath. His 200 yard, 0 TD offensive explosion today didn't exactly make me think he's the next Mahomes.

Um...dude.....Trubisky started his career playing FAIRLY well in 2 of his first 3 years and then was so awful after that, he was released by the Bears.

Released.

A second overall pick.

Just cut.

That's why he was available for the Steelers to sign and for some imbecilic reason, the Steelers gave Mitch a pretty large free agent contract, hoping he could start the 2022 season while Kenny Pickett watched Mitch and learned how it was done.

Mitch lasted what....4 games? He was booed off the field during a home game against the Jets. Kenny Pickett and Mason Rudolph left Pittsburgh with winning records.

Mitch left Pittsburgh with a 4-10 record.

Mitch, along with Kent Graham and possibly Cliff Stoudt, were the worst QB's I've ever seen play for the Steelers.

That doesn't address my question, though. He had some success with the Bears. He was garbage with the Steelers. It's a pretty clear example of how simply going from Chicago to Pittsburgh doesn't magically make a QB better.

[jmacinwbp]

come on man ...
this isnt just shitting on a win out of the blue
this is an act we have watched for ten years -- it is the exact same act

i will say the one hope here is that by some magical act JF Pinocchio turns into a real QB
the simple fact that we all are here shows we all hope we wont get fooled again

tomlin is a defensive coach and he going to coach that way ... and until he is forced to change this is what we are going to get
during the game i always hope they win -- but that sinking feeling is legitimate

This is a reasonable approach to express disappointment in Tomlin & his philosophy, complain, blame, but always root for wins if you're still in the competition to make the playoffs. Rooting for losses to get rid of a coach everyone knows will leave this organization on his terms, isn't.


My take on the overall week#1 offensive game plan is that Tomlin probably told Artie that he didn't want Fields to kill them with turnovers, dude had way too many of them with daBears. I don't think they'll have that same approach with RWilson if he's able to get the nod as QB1 again, when Tomlin speaks about RWilson you can hear that he respects the man as a QB1, and his resume of work.

In the case of Fields staying as the starter, Tomlin's approach may be exactly what he needs to get his career on track. If Fields can get his confidence pumped up, and is on a winning team with a top five D, his talents could be special, and what could get a defensive minded coaches team over the hump, and competitive in the AFC.

What is going to make or break this team being competitive isn't going to be QB1, more about how the Oline can block, if the Lbs/middle D is able to avoid getting shredded, and of course injuries to key players.

I'm looking forward to seeing the all-22 to see :

- how Fields processed things and selected who to throw the ball to

- what Queen, PWilson, and BB looked like defending the pass plays in the middle of the field. Already know that Roberts is better than you would think based on his lack of speed

- how each Oline player looked, especially Jones and Fraizer. Anderson, not so much, hoping the rumors of Issac's pec injury being week to week is true

[K_C_]

If Pittsburgh is so much better than Chicago for QBs, then why did Mitch Trubisky do so much better in Chicago than he did in Pittsburgh? Maybe Fields blossoms into a quality starting QB in Pittsburgh, but I wouldn't hold my breath. His 200 yard, 0 TD offensive explosion today didn't exactly make me think he's the next Mahomes.

Um...dude.....Trubisky started his career playing FAIRLY well in 2 of his first 3 years and then was so awful after that, he was released by the Bears.

Released.

A second overall pick.

Just cut.

That's why he was available for the Steelers to sign and for some imbecilic reason, the Steelers gave Mitch a pretty large free agent contract, hoping he could start the 2022 season while Kenny Pickett watched Mitch and learned how it was done.

Mitch lasted what....4 games? He was booed off the field during a home game against the Jets. Kenny Pickett and Mason Rudolph left Pittsburgh with winning records.

Mitch left Pittsburgh with a 4-10 record.

Mitch, along with Kent Graham and possibly Cliff Stoudt, were the worst QB's I've ever seen play for the Steelers.

That doesn't address my question, though. He had some success with the Bears. He was garbage with the Steelers. It's a pretty clear example of how simply going from Chicago to Pittsburgh doesn't magically make a QB better.

Mitch didn't light up any scoreboards. He made the playoffs in 2 of his first 3 years because the Bears' defense was lights out.

Mitch, again, is among the worst QB's in Steelers history. For all the hatred Pickett got (some of it very deserved) Mitch was waaaaaaaaaaaaaay worse.

[PennyBacker]

Cheering for losses make no sense. Teams that lose, more often than not, continue to lose. Expecting to win for losing sounds quite asinine from my perspective.

Teams that win typically do so because of doing the right things. I cannot recall a scenario where a program of - losing week-in and week-out - was part of a well conceived plan for long term success.

In what reality does the above work? If a team had that sort of authority over winning, then there would be no reason to prove it through failure first. Just start winning now.

Remember "Suck for Luck"? How well did that work out for them?

It worked out pretty well in the beginning, until Luck decided he didn't want to play anymore.

It did not ultimately get the Colts to where the wanted to be.

Additionally, remember how humble Andrew Luck was? Everything was "an honor" for him. That dude basically could not rub anyone the wrong way. His personality pretty much changed the losing culture the Colts had cultivated. Most highly touted players do not have that immediate influence, even QBs.

[Jtf]

I mean broncos suck and chargers are struggling. Steelers could start 3-0. They are going to be in alot of games because of their defense. It’s how they made playoffs two of the last three years. Then getting no mistakes by qb.

[zeke5123]

1. 41 made some solid plays. No splash plays but filled well, squared well, closed well. He was a legit NFL linebacker.

2. Watt…great player. Found ways to impact the game. The refs need to distinguish between a player moving pre snap and moving into the NZ pre snap.

3. Tomlin cannot do simple math. In addition, he can’t energy align his tactics with strategy (eg a ball control offense needs to kick there every time).

4. Boz is awesome. Probably the first human to kick five FGs and at least one punt.

5. Pickens was great. He did take one play off that was a run.

6. The o line was solid. Frazier had some great blocks (particular the long Harris run).

7. Warren didn’t get a lot of snaps. Was that because of injury or are the Steelers that dumb?

[tbsteel]

I mean broncos suck and chargers are struggling. Steelers could start 3-0. They are going to be in alot of games because of their defense. It’s how they made playoffs two of the last three years. Then getting no mistakes by qb.

This is exactly what we don't need (and shouldn't want).

9-8, seventh seed, destroyed by the Texans in round 1.

Don't you want off Mr. Bones' Wild Ride?

[W&M_Steeler]

1. 41 made some solid plays. No splash plays but filled well, squared well, closed well. He was a legit NFL linebacker.

2. Watt…great player. Found ways to impact the game. The refs need to distinguish between a player moving pre snap and moving into the NZ pre snap.

3. Tomlin cannot do simple math. In addition, he can’t energy align his tactics with strategy (eg a ball control offense needs to kick there every time).

4. Boz is awesome. Probably the first human to kick five FGs and at least one punt.

5. Pickens was great. He did take one play off that was a run.

6. The o line was solid. Frazier had some great blocks (particular the long Harris run).

7. Warren didn’t get a lot of snaps. Was that because of injury or are the Steelers that dumb?

Cordarelle Patterson seems to have taken some of Warren's snaps today. Doesn't seem like a good idea to me.

[tbsteel]

7. Warren didn’t get a lot of snaps. Was that because of injury or are the Steelers that dumb?

This was one of my fears with Smith. I thought CP might eat into Najee's workload, but it looks like that may be Warren.

Incredibly stupid. Which is why courageous, heroic Steelers fans like me want off the ride. The less we win, the more change that can be realized.

[Orangesteel]

Patterson should not be taking snaps away from Warren. That is beyond stupid.

[Jizz Mop]

Patterson should not be taking snaps away from Warren. That is beyond stupid.

Stupid is how we roll

Special assistant to Tomlin (a make a wish blind 9 year old) - “Coach, if we kick the FG we are up 8, forcing them to score a TD and convert a 2-point conversion.”

Tomlin - “if we can’t get 1 yard we don’t deserve to win…..sneak it..”

[Steelperch]

Well, Tony Romo can finally say he’s better than Tom Brady. Brady sounds like a little kid in the booth. Adds nothing of substance, just typical jock cliche speak.

[Steelperch]

Patterson should not be taking snaps away from Warren. That is beyond stupid.

Warren is still nursing a hamstring. It’s wise to limit him early on.

[Orangesteel]

Patterson should not be taking snaps away from Warren. That is beyond stupid.

Warren is still nursing a hamstring. It’s wise to limit him early on.

If that’s really it then OK

[K_C_]

Well, Tony Romo can finally say he’s better than Tom Brady. Brady sounds like a little kid in the booth. Adds nothing of substance, just typical jock cliche speak.

Romo is far more relaxed but he's been doing it awhile.

Brady sounds forced and nervous as all fuck. Maybe he'll grow into the gig but right now it's a disaster.

[Still Diesel]

Patterson should not be taking snaps away from Warren. That is beyond stupid.

Warren is still nursing a hamstring. It’s wise to limit him early on.

Agreed on Warren we will see more and more of him. We were close to scoring a decent amount of points this game. Young offense will continue to improve. That +170 money line ticket sure cashed on the Steelers.

[Orangesteel]

Browns booing the fuck out of the team.

Cowboys kicker (now best in the league other than Boswell) nails a 66 yarder but doesn’t count because of a delay or game.

[jebrick]

Well, Tony Romo can finally say he’s better than Tom Brady. Brady sounds like a little kid in the booth. Adds nothing of substance, just typical jock cliche speak.

My thoughts exactly.

[K_C_]

Browns booing the fuck out of the team.

Cowboys kicker (now best in the league other than Boswell) nails a 66 yarder but doesn’t count because of a delay or game.

McCarthy pocketing the 2 timeouts he had.

They now have 5 timeouts in the second half.

[Steel Bingo]

Browns booing the fuck out of the team.

Cowboys kicker (now best in the league other than Boswell) nails a 66 yarder but doesn’t count because of a delay or game.

Cleveland in end of season form

Down 27 - 3 early 3rd Q.

Jockeying for that #1 overall pick.