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Post by SteelerDayTrader » Mon Sep 16, 2024 12:06 am

- Let’s take RB and IOL off the table as potential premium picks for various reasons

- WR. Take away Pickens and it’s without a doubt the worst WR unit in the NFL and very well may be the worst with him as well.

- QB. Probably too early to make a completely fair broad analysis but the unfair surface level quick take is the Steelers need a FQB

- I get the feeling the Steelers D is a player or two away from being able to get the best of the top QBs enough to make it a real game late. Is that player(s) a CB SS ILB DL OLB ?? Idk. They need some premium talent however

I’d like to see the Steelers go QB WR with 2 picks in the first 3 rounds
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Post by bradshaw2ben » Mon Sep 16, 2024 12:09 am

SteelerDayTrader wrote:
Mon Sep 16, 2024 12:06 am
- Let’s take RB and IOL off the table as potential premium picks for various reasons

- WR. Take away Pickens and it’s without a doubt the worst WR in the NFL and very well may be the worst with him as well.

- QB. Probably too early to make a completely fair broad analysis but the unfair surface level quick take is the Steelers need a FQB

- I get the feeling the Steelers D is a player or two away from being able to get the best of the top QBs enough to make it a real game late. Is that player(s) a CB SS ILB DL OLB ?? Idk. They need some premium talent however

I’d like to see the Steelers go QB WR with 2 picks in the first 3 rounds
I think we might have some different opinions about this team and this defense after next week. Chargers have a very solid run game AND an elite QB. They also have a HC who isn't a dumbass.
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Post by K_C_ » Mon Sep 16, 2024 12:22 am

bradshaw2ben wrote:
Mon Sep 16, 2024 12:09 am
SteelerDayTrader wrote:
Mon Sep 16, 2024 12:06 am
- Let’s take RB and IOL off the table as potential premium picks for various reasons

- WR. Take away Pickens and it’s without a doubt the worst WR in the NFL and very well may be the worst with him as well.

- QB. Probably too early to make a completely fair broad analysis but the unfair surface level quick take is the Steelers need a FQB

- I get the feeling the Steelers D is a player or two away from being able to get the best of the top QBs enough to make it a real game late. Is that player(s) a CB SS ILB DL OLB ?? Idk. They need some premium talent however

I’d like to see the Steelers go QB WR with 2 picks in the first 3 rounds
I think we might have some different opinions about this team and this defense after next week. Chargers have a very solid run game AND an elite QB. They also have a HC who isn't a dumbass.
I didn't see the Chargers game, but a friend told me Herbert got fucked up good in that game and left.

I haven't looked but that's what I heard.
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Post by Steelperch » Mon Sep 16, 2024 12:25 am

bradshaw2ben wrote:
Mon Sep 16, 2024 12:09 am
They also have a HC who isn't a dumbass.
You sure about that? He’s a Harbaugh which is German for “white Tomlin”

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Post by Almighty Slacker. » Mon Sep 16, 2024 12:26 am

Steelperch wrote:
Mon Sep 16, 2024 12:25 am
bradshaw2ben wrote:
Mon Sep 16, 2024 12:09 am
They also have a HC who isn't a dumbass.
You sure about that? He’s a Harbaugh which is German for “white Tomlin”
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Post by Thrillsseeker » Mon Sep 16, 2024 12:28 am

bradshaw2ben wrote:
Mon Sep 16, 2024 12:09 am
SteelerDayTrader wrote:
Mon Sep 16, 2024 12:06 am
- Let’s take RB and IOL off the table as potential premium picks for various reasons

- WR. Take away Pickens and it’s without a doubt the worst WR in the NFL and very well may be the worst with him as well.

- QB. Probably too early to make a completely fair broad analysis but the unfair surface level quick take is the Steelers need a FQB

- I get the feeling the Steelers D is a player or two away from being able to get the best of the top QBs enough to make it a real game late. Is that player(s) a CB SS ILB DL OLB ?? Idk. They need some premium talent however

I’d like to see the Steelers go QB WR with 2 picks in the first 3 rounds
I think we might have some different opinions about this team and this defense after next week. Chargers have a very solid run game AND an elite QB. They also have a HC who isn't a dumbass.
I fully expect to drive to the Burgh next weekend, and again watch the Chargers beat us. The last time was when they signed something like three O- linemen the week of the game and embarrassed us.

At the very least, I won’t have to listen to my wife’s fat and ugly step sister cheer her Chargers on this trip.

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Post by SteelerDayTrader » Mon Sep 16, 2024 12:33 am

Steelperch wrote:
Mon Sep 16, 2024 12:25 am
bradshaw2ben wrote:
Mon Sep 16, 2024 12:09 am
They also have a HC who isn't a dumbass.
You sure about that? He’s a Harbaugh which is German for “white Tomlin”
Lolololz
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Post by K_C_ » Mon Sep 16, 2024 12:42 am

Herbert limping around badly after the game.

Something to monitor.

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Post by Jizz Mop » Mon Sep 16, 2024 12:43 am

Steelperch wrote:
Mon Sep 16, 2024 12:25 am
bradshaw2ben wrote:
Mon Sep 16, 2024 12:09 am
They also have a HC who isn't a dumbass.
You sure about that? He’s a Harbaugh which is German for “white Tomlin”
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Post by RemoAZ » Mon Sep 16, 2024 1:16 am

K_C_ wrote:
Mon Sep 16, 2024 12:42 am
Herbert limping around badly after the game.

Something to monitor.

https://boltbeat.com/posts/chargers-not ... ury-update
Well nobody is luckier than Tomlin in getting to face backups so I won't be surprised if Herbert doesn't play.
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Post by tbsteel » Mon Sep 16, 2024 1:43 am

1. QB

2. WR
3. RB
4. DL
5. CB
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Post by cop1211 » Mon Sep 16, 2024 3:24 am

Depends on where they’d drafting if it’s around 15-17.
No trade up for a QB.

1.WR
2.DL
3.RB
4.DL
5.OT
6.WR
7.OC/OG

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Post by SteelerDayTrader » Mon Sep 16, 2024 6:09 am

cop1211 wrote:
Mon Sep 16, 2024 3:24 am
Depends on where they’d drafting if it’s around 15-17.
No trade up for a QB.

1.WR
2.DL
3.RB
4.DL
5.OT
6.WR
7.OC/OG
I guess it depends how many potential FQBs are in the draft ??

I thought Fields played well in the first game and the beginning of this one. As the game wore on it sure seemed like the defense was beginning to dial in on him and his weaknesses.

I mostly liked Kordell when he was here. I genuinely think if Gailey had stuck around long term Kordell and the Steelers may been able to develop into something close to a Lombardi contending unit. But the Steelers refused to make that happen and we all know how Kordell ended up.


Fields pretty much seems like a Kordell type to me

Enough impressive tools to pull out some exciting wins but not good enough to slam the door on Lombardi level teams most of the time

Wilson ?? Who knows ?? But the book on him says he’s on the downside of his career and so far that’s been confirmed in the little we have to go on

George Pickens is the best player on the team and 1) the Steelers do everything possible to lessen his impact with the offense they’ve built and choose to run and 2) there is no way the Steelers are gonna pay him anything close to what he’s worth. Truthfully I’m his agent and he merely continues to perform at his current pace Id feel duty bound to at least having a discussion about sitting out next year in a pay me or trade me scenario. There is absolutely zero real scenario where this current Steelers team is good for a top talent WR

I say all that to say this

As of right now the Steelers don’t have good talent at QB …..AND……except for Pickens…..they have the worst WR group in the NFL

Soooooo……where does that leave us ??

Absolutely backed into a corner on draft day at WR
Absolutely needing AT LEAST one or two top tier defensive pieces on draft day

And oh by the way we also need a FQB

Among other things…..

So. Trade up for a QB ?? I’d rather not but it wouldn’t bother me because we are already a borderline bottom 3rd team in the NFL that needs a QB.

I think in that position you just keep going after prospects until one hits. Worse case scenario you are the same 7-10/10-7 team you are now
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Post by bradshaw2ben » Mon Sep 16, 2024 8:03 pm

cop1211 wrote:
Mon Sep 16, 2024 3:24 am
Depends on where they’d drafting if it’s around 15-17.
No trade up for a QB.

1.WR
2.DL
3.RB
4.DL
5.OT
6.WR
7.OC/OG
A reminder: Chiefs were picking in the 27th slot when they traded up to 10 for Mahomes. Get it done.
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Post by tbsteel » Mon Sep 16, 2024 10:01 pm

bradshaw2ben wrote:
Mon Sep 16, 2024 8:03 pm
cop1211 wrote:
Mon Sep 16, 2024 3:24 am
Depends on where they’d drafting if it’s around 15-17.
No trade up for a QB.

1.WR
2.DL
3.RB
4.DL
5.OT
6.WR
7.OC/OG
A reminder: Chiefs were picking in the 27th slot when they traded up to 10 for Mahomes. Get it done.
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Post by Jizz Mop » Mon Sep 16, 2024 10:25 pm

SteelerDayTrader wrote:
Mon Sep 16, 2024 6:09 am
cop1211 wrote:
Mon Sep 16, 2024 3:24 am
Depends on where they’d drafting if it’s around 15-17.
No trade up for a QB.

1.WR
2.DL
3.RB
4.DL
5.OT
6.WR
7.OC/OG
I guess it depends how many potential FQBs are in the draft ??

I thought Fields played well in the first game and the beginning of this one. As the game wore on it sure seemed like the defense was beginning to dial in on him and his weaknesses.

I mostly liked Kordell when he was here. I genuinely think if Gailey had stuck around long term Kordell and the Steelers may been able to develop into something close to a Lombardi contending unit. But the Steelers refused to make that happen and we all know how Kordell ended up.


Fields pretty much seems like a Kordell type to me

Enough impressive tools to pull out some exciting wins but not good enough to slam the door on Lombardi level teams most of the time

Wilson ?? Who knows ?? But the book on him says he’s on the downside of his career and so far that’s been confirmed in the little we have to go on

George Pickens is the best player on the team and 1) the Steelers do everything possible to lessen his impact with the offense they’ve built and choose to run and 2) there is no way the Steelers are gonna pay him anything close to what he’s worth. Truthfully I’m his agent and he merely continues to perform at his current pace Id feel duty bound to at least having a discussion about sitting out next year in a pay me or trade me scenario. There is absolutely zero real scenario where this current Steelers team is good for a top talent WR

I say all that to say this

As of right now the Steelers don’t have good talent at QB …..AND……except for Pickens…..they have the worst WR group in the NFL

Soooooo……where does that leave us ??

Absolutely backed into a corner on draft day at WR
Absolutely needing AT LEAST one or two top tier defensive pieces on draft day

And oh by the way we also need a FQB

Among other things…..

So. Trade up for a QB ?? I’d rather not but it wouldn’t bother me because we are already a borderline bottom 3rd team in the NFL that needs a QB.

I think in that position you just keep going after prospects until one hits. Worse case scenario you are the same 7-10/10-7 team you are now
Watt is the best player on the team

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Post by K_C_ » Mon Sep 16, 2024 11:37 pm

Jizz Mop wrote:
Mon Sep 16, 2024 10:25 pm
SteelerDayTrader wrote:
Mon Sep 16, 2024 6:09 am
cop1211 wrote:
Mon Sep 16, 2024 3:24 am
Depends on where they’d drafting if it’s around 15-17.
No trade up for a QB.

1.WR
2.DL
3.RB
4.DL
5.OT
6.WR
7.OC/OG
I guess it depends how many potential FQBs are in the draft ??

I thought Fields played well in the first game and the beginning of this one. As the game wore on it sure seemed like the defense was beginning to dial in on him and his weaknesses.

I mostly liked Kordell when he was here. I genuinely think if Gailey had stuck around long term Kordell and the Steelers may been able to develop into something close to a Lombardi contending unit. But the Steelers refused to make that happen and we all know how Kordell ended up.


Fields pretty much seems like a Kordell type to me

Enough impressive tools to pull out some exciting wins but not good enough to slam the door on Lombardi level teams most of the time

Wilson ?? Who knows ?? But the book on him says he’s on the downside of his career and so far that’s been confirmed in the little we have to go on

George Pickens is the best player on the team and 1) the Steelers do everything possible to lessen his impact with the offense they’ve built and choose to run and 2) there is no way the Steelers are gonna pay him anything close to what he’s worth. Truthfully I’m his agent and he merely continues to perform at his current pace Id feel duty bound to at least having a discussion about sitting out next year in a pay me or trade me scenario. There is absolutely zero real scenario where this current Steelers team is good for a top talent WR

I say all that to say this

As of right now the Steelers don’t have good talent at QB …..AND……except for Pickens…..they have the worst WR group in the NFL

Soooooo……where does that leave us ??

Absolutely backed into a corner on draft day at WR
Absolutely needing AT LEAST one or two top tier defensive pieces on draft day

And oh by the way we also need a FQB

Among other things…..

So. Trade up for a QB ?? I’d rather not but it wouldn’t bother me because we are already a borderline bottom 3rd team in the NFL that needs a QB.

I think in that position you just keep going after prospects until one hits. Worse case scenario you are the same 7-10/10-7 team you are now
Watt is the best player on the team
Only an absolute imbecile would believe otherwise.

Thus, voila!
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Post by SteelerDayTrader » Mon Sep 16, 2024 11:48 pm

K_C_ wrote:
Mon Sep 16, 2024 11:37 pm
Jizz Mop wrote:
Mon Sep 16, 2024 10:25 pm
SteelerDayTrader wrote:
Mon Sep 16, 2024 6:09 am


I guess it depends how many potential FQBs are in the draft ??

I thought Fields played well in the first game and the beginning of this one. As the game wore on it sure seemed like the defense was beginning to dial in on him and his weaknesses.

I mostly liked Kordell when he was here. I genuinely think if Gailey had stuck around long term Kordell and the Steelers may been able to develop into something close to a Lombardi contending unit. But the Steelers refused to make that happen and we all know how Kordell ended up.


Fields pretty much seems like a Kordell type to me

Enough impressive tools to pull out some exciting wins but not good enough to slam the door on Lombardi level teams most of the time

Wilson ?? Who knows ?? But the book on him says he’s on the downside of his career and so far that’s been confirmed in the little we have to go on

George Pickens is the best player on the team and 1) the Steelers do everything possible to lessen his impact with the offense they’ve built and choose to run and 2) there is no way the Steelers are gonna pay him anything close to what he’s worth. Truthfully I’m his agent and he merely continues to perform at his current pace Id feel duty bound to at least having a discussion about sitting out next year in a pay me or trade me scenario. There is absolutely zero real scenario where this current Steelers team is good for a top talent WR

I say all that to say this

As of right now the Steelers don’t have good talent at QB …..AND……except for Pickens…..they have the worst WR group in the NFL

Soooooo……where does that leave us ??

Absolutely backed into a corner on draft day at WR
Absolutely needing AT LEAST one or two top tier defensive pieces on draft day

And oh by the way we also need a FQB

Among other things…..

So. Trade up for a QB ?? I’d rather not but it wouldn’t bother me because we are already a borderline bottom 3rd team in the NFL that needs a QB.

I think in that position you just keep going after prospects until one hits. Worse case scenario you are the same 7-10/10-7 team you are now
Watt is the best player on the team
Only an absolute imbecile would believe otherwise.

Thus, voila!
Watt is good. If I was building a team right now I’d choose Pickens over Watt
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Post by K_C_ » Mon Sep 16, 2024 11:56 pm

SteelerDayTrader wrote:
Mon Sep 16, 2024 11:48 pm
K_C_ wrote:
Mon Sep 16, 2024 11:37 pm
Jizz Mop wrote:
Mon Sep 16, 2024 10:25 pm


Watt is the best player on the team
Only an absolute imbecile would believe otherwise.

Thus, voila!
Watt is good. If I was building a team right now I’d choose Pickens over Watt
Watt is a certain first ballot Hall of Famer who is still playing at the absolute top of his game.

Outside of Patrick Mahomes, Watt is arguably the second best football player on the planet.

Nobody's talking about starting a team.

TJ Watt is the best player on the Steelers team by such a wide margin, it would take miles to find the next guy.
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Post by SteelerDayTrader » Mon Sep 16, 2024 11:59 pm

K_C_ wrote:
Mon Sep 16, 2024 11:56 pm
SteelerDayTrader wrote:
Mon Sep 16, 2024 11:48 pm
K_C_ wrote:
Mon Sep 16, 2024 11:37 pm


Only an absolute imbecile would believe otherwise.

Thus, voila!
Watt is good. If I was building a team right now I’d choose Pickens over Watt
Watt is a certain first ballot Hall of Famer who is still playing at the absolute top of his game.

Outside of Patrick Mahomes, Watt is arguably the second best football player on the planet.

Nobody's talking about starting a team.

TJ Watt is the best player on the Steelers team by such a wide margin, it would take miles to find the next guy.
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Post by Ice » Tue Sep 17, 2024 12:34 am

So, if I wasn't assuming we're now committed to mediocrity (and silly chants) with Frieiermuth, I'd put TE higher on the list considering the offense, but I'm assuming we are. This is a pretty nice looking RB class and it'd be cool to dip in at some point. I like Elliott at SS, and it looks like Jackson could work out at CB2. Have to see how NCB plays out. DL seems obvious. I think they think they're set at ILB/OLB. So...

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Post by steelmann58 » Tue Sep 17, 2024 12:55 am

QB as long as its not Sanders

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Post by Ice » Tue Sep 17, 2024 1:04 am

Still think Tomlin is going to like Sanders a lot more than most of us will be happy about.
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Post by Obviously » Tue Sep 17, 2024 1:06 am

Steelperch wrote:
Mon Sep 16, 2024 12:25 am
bradshaw2ben wrote:
Mon Sep 16, 2024 12:09 am
They also have a HC who isn't a dumbass.
You sure about that? He’s a Harbaugh which is German for “white Tomlin”
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Post by Jobu » Tue Sep 17, 2024 3:06 am

Ice wrote:
Tue Sep 17, 2024 1:04 am
Still think Tomlin is going to like Sanders a lot more than most of us will be happy about.
It’s not so much Sanders the QB, it’s the circus that’ll be pulling into town with him. I can’t see Tomlin’s ego being good with Daddy Prime as the new face of the organization.

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Post by W&M_Steeler » Tue Sep 17, 2024 5:38 am

SteelerDayTrader wrote:
Mon Sep 16, 2024 6:09 am
cop1211 wrote:
Mon Sep 16, 2024 3:24 am
Depends on where they’d drafting if it’s around 15-17.
No trade up for a QB.

1.WR
2.DL
3.RB
4.DL
5.OT
6.WR
7.OC/OG
I guess it depends how many potential FQBs are in the draft ??

I thought Fields played well in the first game and the beginning of this one. As the game wore on it sure seemed like the defense was beginning to dial in on him and his weaknesses.

I mostly liked Kordell when he was here. I genuinely think if Gailey had stuck around long term Kordell and the Steelers may been able to develop into something close to a Lombardi contending unit. But the Steelers refused to make that happen and we all know how Kordell ended up.


Fields pretty much seems like a Kordell type to me
Kordell was a mentally weak choker, perhaps the most mentally fragile QB I have ever seen. He would fold under the slightest adversity and fall apart after his first mistake. I think Kordell is overrated and never would have amounted to anything.

I don't understand the "Fields as QB 1" drum beat. His two games combined make one decent game for a top 15 QB. Sure, he hasn't had any turnovers, and the team has won inspite of him, but so what? People said the same thing about KP. I'm ready to see what Wilson has to offer, but I think QB is a dire need. Fields makes a decent back-up, but he's no franchise QB. It's like when Tomczak (another OSU and Bears QB cast-off) was the Steelers' starter for awhile. Just a dead end.

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