Steelers vs Chargers Game Comments and Suffering

[tbsteel]

https://x.com/DavidMTodd/status/1838045238973112552

#Steelers were 0-18-1 in the last 19 games where they lost the turnover battle. Lost it 1-0 today. Won 20-10.

[Deebo]

https://x.com/DavidMTodd/status/1838045238973112552

#Steelers were 0-18-1 in the last 19 games where they lost the turnover battle. Lost it 1-0 today. Won 20-10.

Pretty surprising we didn't have 1 turnover after kicking their ass in the 2nd half

[Jobu]

https://x.com/DavidMTodd/status/1838045238973112552

#Steelers were 0-18-1 in the last 19 games where they lost the turnover battle. Lost it 1-0 today. Won 20-10.

Pretty surprising we didn't have 1 turnover after kicking their ass in the 2nd half

Pretty much kept their offense off the field.

[stillthere]

As I've said, KC...I hope the fuck I'm wrong on this...SBI. > being right...and so far, I'll cede that I'm wrong. CA stepped up biiiig today, and that's great to see...and donte Jackson has helped solidify the secondary....much bigger addition than I thought.

Diontae is having a day!!

4 catches for 80 yards and a TD and the Panthers are up 21-7!!

Most notable part of his stat line, IMO, were FOURTEEN targets.....for 8 catches, 122 yards and a TD

I drafted him in 2 fantasy leagues as my 5th WR.

[LakecrestSteeler]

https://x.com/DavidMTodd/status/1838045238973112552

#Steelers were 0-18-1 in the last 19 games where they lost the turnover battle. Lost it 1-0 today. Won 20-10.

Pretty surprising we didn't have 1 turnover after kicking their ass in the 2nd half

The strip sack by Herbig was just as good when you are leading if it leads to a punt.

[steelmann58]

The new Punter Waitman has been excellent

[bradshaw2ben]

Did the chargers gain any yards in the 2nd half? The announcers were saying late that they had negative yards in the 2nd half. Or were they talking about just 1 of the components of offensive yards?

-5 yards for the Bolts in the second half and the Steelers had 5 sacks also in the second half.

You can only play who you play, but the chargers by halftime had lost both OTs, the best pass rusher, their number 2. WR, and their stud QB. They looked ready to get on the team plane about halfway through Q3.

Now, Steelers get credit for taking the broken down horse out behind the barn. They did what they were supposed to do and banked another win that’ll probably come in handy during their last run of 8 games when they’ll be looking to buy a vowel.

But now I think it’s pretty clear that as long as Watt, Pickens, Heyward, & the OTs stay on the field, NHALS looks pretty likely. I hesitate to make any firm predictions until after at least 4 games, but even me the pessimist who doubts a postseason win thinks 8 wins for a healthy Steelers team is the worst-case.

[bradshaw2ben]

Just pulled up the game.

McCormick first comes in at LG at the 3:13 mark of the second quarter to start our drive. The OL is:

Moore-McCormick-Frazier-Daniels-Jones

Next drive (our last of the first half ending in the Boswell FG attempt) it was the same line.

I'd have to back and watch the second half, but I believe Anderson was back out at LG to start the second half.

I believe Anderson was at RG on a sack or tackles for loss—Romo said it looked like Broderick Jones went the wrong way and it sure looked like 74 was at RG next to Jones.

[bradshaw2ben]

I’m ecstatic at 3-0…but there is still a lot this team needs to clean up. Procedural/alignment penalties. Pre-snap confusion. Tight ends whiffing on blocks. Snaps/exchanges.

Fields is gaining confidence and it shows. He’s not panicking in the pocket and going through the progression. We still don’t have a #2 WR so for the love of god get Roman Wilson some reps to see what the kid has.

I don’t know what do say about the defense. It’s deadly. They have layers of talent and are executing almost flawless football. Keep that up.

I’m not sure what more CA3 had to do to be considered the WR2. Honestly, today he was what we *hope* Roman Wilson will be.

[Orangesteel]

I’m ecstatic at 3-0…but there is still a lot this team needs to clean up. Procedural/alignment penalties. Pre-snap confusion. Tight ends whiffing on blocks. Snaps/exchanges.

Fields is gaining confidence and it shows. He’s not panicking in the pocket and going through the progression. We still don’t have a #2 WR so for the love of god get Roman Wilson some reps to see what the kid has.

I don’t know what do say about the defense. It’s deadly. They have layers of talent and are executing almost flawless football. Keep that up.

I’m not sure what more CA3 had to do to be considered the WR2. Honestly, today he was what we *hope* Roman Wilson will be.

OK let’s get them both on the field and someone is bound to be open more, maybe even George.

[ironzabo]

If young Roman has the stones I am told he actually has when heathy we might just damn well be in business with CAIII taking the top off and George being George

Russ to the desperate Phins for a nice little weapon like Berrios is a card worth playing ...we shall see

[steelclan]

Did the chargers gain any yards in the 2nd half? The announcers were saying late that they had negative yards in the 2nd half. Or were they talking about just 1 of the components of offensive yards?

-5 yards for the Bolts in the second half and the Steelers had 5 sacks also in the second half.

You can only play who you play, but the chargers by halftime had lost both OTs, the best pass rusher, their number 2. WR, and their stud QB. They looked ready to get on the team plane about halfway through Q3.

Now, Steelers get credit for taking the broken down horse out behind the barn. They did what they were supposed to do and banked another win that’ll probably come in handy during their last run of 8 games when they’ll be looking to buy a vowel.

But now I think it’s pretty clear that as long as Watt, Pickens, Heyward, & the OTs stay on the field, NHALS looks pretty likely. I hesitate to make any firm predictions until after at least 4 games, but even me the pessimist who doubts a postseason win thinks 8 wins for a healthy Steelers team is the worst-case.

That best pass rusher that never stays healthy. He is made of porcelain. Broderick Jones pancaked him on the first series and that was that.

Alt didn't go out until the 4th quarter, I know this because he got beaten badly by Watt for a sack in that quarter. Plus, Slater was being dominated by Herbig. Herbig beat him for a sack/strip fumble, a quick pressure that forced Herbig off his spot and beat him on hail mary play before Half, only Herbert escaping spared Slater's blushes. Herbig had 5 pass rushes v Slater and was chewing him up.

If we want to discuss missing starters? Ok.

Steelers were missing starting OG and RT.

Before Alt went out he needed double teams to contain Watt and still barely did so. In fact, Watt and Heyward tooled him in run defense. Then when Watt got 1 v 1 shots on Alt? He tooled him (sack, holding call and pressures). Steelers also lost starting OLB who last time I checked is a decent player and #2 WR (albeit Jefferson sucks) and DJ Chark is not exactly scaring anyone.

I get you badly want to downplay this result and the others but not this one. Chargers were only in this game due to a blown coverage and Steelers dropping the ball. Slater, Herbert and Alt wouldn't have changed this result. Especially considering all 3 of them were struggling.

[K_C_]

If young Roman has the stones I am told he actually has when heathy we might just damn well be in business with CAIII taking the top off and George being George

Russ to the desperate Phins for a nice little weapon like Berrios is a card worth playing ...we shall see

The Phins are desperate.

2nd rounder or bust.

[SteelPro]

If young Roman has the stones I am told he actually has when heathy we might just damn well be in business with CAIII taking the top off and George being George

Russ to the desperate Phins for a nice little weapon like Berrios is a card worth playing ...we shall see

The Phins are desperate.

2nd rounder or bust.

mobile QBs like Fields rarely stay healthy for 17 games. I’d be in no hurry to sell Russ. That is a good way to lose your locker room.

[Mick]

It appears that Alt only played 46 out of 46 chargers offensive snaps. Herbert played every chargers drive until the 4th quarter.

Pickens played 74% of snaps, chargers top 3 WRs played 80%, 72%, and 72% of snaps.

[swissvale72]

If young Roman has the stones I am told he actually has when heathy we might just damn well be in business with CAIII taking the top off and George being George

Russ to the desperate Phins for a nice little weapon like Berrios is a card worth playing ...we shall see

The Phins are desperate.

2nd rounder or bust.

mobile QBs like Fields rarely stay healthy for 17 games. I’d be in no hurry to sell Russ. That is a good way to lose your locker room.

Totally agree...and gotta believe that Russ has been helpful to Fields.

[bradshaw2ben]

-5 yards for the Bolts in the second half and the Steelers had 5 sacks also in the second half.

You can only play who you play, but the chargers by halftime had lost both OTs, the best pass rusher, their number 2. WR, and their stud QB. They looked ready to get on the team plane about halfway through Q3.

Now, Steelers get credit for taking the broken down horse out behind the barn. They did what they were supposed to do and banked another win that’ll probably come in handy during their last run of 8 games when they’ll be looking to buy a vowel.

But now I think it’s pretty clear that as long as Watt, Pickens, Heyward, & the OTs stay on the field, NHALS looks pretty likely. I hesitate to make any firm predictions until after at least 4 games, but even me the pessimist who doubts a postseason win thinks 8 wins for a healthy Steelers team is the worst-case.

That best pass rusher that never stays healthy. He is made of porcelain. Broderick Jones pancaked him on the first series and that was that.

Alt didn't go out until the 4th quarter, I know this because he got beaten badly by Watt for a sack in that quarter. Plus, Slater was being dominated by Herbig. Herbig beat him for a sack/strip fumble, a quick pressure that forced Herbig off his spot and beat him on hail mary play before Half, only Herbert escaping spared Slater's blushes. Herbig had 5 pass rushes v Slater and was chewing him up.

If we want to discuss missing starters? Ok.

Steelers were missing starting OG and RT.

Before Alt went out he needed double teams to contain Watt and still barely did so. In fact, Watt and Heyward tooled him in run defense. Then when Watt got 1 v 1 shots on Alt? He tooled him (sack, holding call and pressures). Steelers also lost starting OLB who last time I checked is a decent player and #2 WR (albeit Jefferson sucks) and DJ Chark is not exactly scaring anyone.

I get you badly want to downplay this result and the others but not this one. Chargers were only in this game due to a blown coverage and Steelers dropping the ball. Slater, Herbert and Alt wouldn't have changed this result. Especially considering all 3 of them were struggling.

I’m actually not trying to downplay the result. But. There’s no doubt Herbert would have made a difference and even oft injured Bosa makes a difference when he’s healthy. The ass-kicking of the second half was greatly helped by the fact the Chargers offense couldn’t stay on the field and the fact that Fields had all day.

How much of that is the Chargers being not good enough and how much is the Steelers being dominant? I’m not sure but it was certainly good enough to go 3-0.

I enjoyed the way they played yesterday and I look forward to what comes next.

[bradshaw2ben]

It appears that Alt only played 46 out of 46 chargers offensive snaps. Herbert played every chargers drive until the 4th quarter.

Pickens played 74% of snaps, chargers top 3 WRs played 80%, 72%, and 72% of snaps.

I was referring to Palmer, who didn’t play. I actually thought Herbert wasn’t right already at halftime but maybe I’m wrong about that.

So sure let’s call it No Bosa or Palmer the whole game, Herbert hobbled/out, LT out early.

The win was impressive and it also was helped by these things.

The Steelers D did hit another gear in H2, and the dang offense threw more in the MOF than they have in any game for years… so it may have not mattered

[Burgh Nike]

Los Angeles was on the back end of a 2 week cross county venture. That presents itself as a situation where the Steelers could have an advantage later in the game. Pittsburgh effectively bullied the Chargers and was able to thoroughly handle its business once the opponent grew weary.

My arms went up right when Austin III caught that football. The old concept of if he's even, he's leavin'. Quite a fun play!

[Mick]

It appears that Alt only played 46 out of 46 chargers offensive snaps. Herbert played every chargers drive until the 4th quarter.

Pickens played 74% of snaps, chargers top 3 WRs played 80%, 72%, and 72% of snaps.

I was referring to Palmer, who didn’t play. I actually thought Herbert wasn’t right already at halftime but maybe I’m wrong about that.

So sure let’s call it No Bosa or Palmer the whole game, Herbert hobbled/out, LT out early.

The win was impressive and it also was helped by these things.

The Steelers D did hit another gear in H2, and the dang offense threw more in the MOF than they have in any game for years… so it may have not mattered

If they were healthier they might have played better, sure.

But on O, their QB1, LT1, RT1, and WR2 missed a combined 72 snaps. Our QB1, RT1, LG1, and WR2 missed a combined 261 snaps. That’s not even touching on Jaylen Warren, arguably our best offensive player (more objectively our #2 player), not being able to run yesterday. Chargers offense was relatively healthy as NFL teams go.

Anyway, do you still believe we lack upper tier talent on D?

[K_C_]

If young Roman has the stones I am told he actually has when heathy we might just damn well be in business with CAIII taking the top off and George being George

Russ to the desperate Phins for a nice little weapon like Berrios is a card worth playing ...we shall see

The Phins are desperate.

2nd rounder or bust.

mobile QBs like Fields rarely stay healthy for 17 games. I’d be in no hurry to sell Russ. That is a good way to lose your locker room.

First, I don't think Russ would be happy backing up Fields. He didn't sign with the Steelers to sit on the bench.

I doubt he'll be a problem child but Russ is on a 1 year deal with almost no chance he'll be back in Pittsburgh next year.

Fields sure as hell looks like he's gonna be back. Also, Justin Fields is a big dude. He's young and is mobile enough to avoid big hits.

If Tua can stay healthy last year for 18 games, it wouldn't shock me in the least if Fields didn't miss more than a game or 2.

I loved the Russ signing at the time and you're right, he's quality depth but (again, this is just speculation) if you can get a pretty fucking high draft pick from a very, very desperate Miami team for Wilson (who again is on a 1 year deal and almost certainly will not return) I make that trade faster than you would say yes to Alexandra Daddario offering to bang you.

Also as soon as I traded Russ, I would bring in Ryan Tannehill to back up Fields. I know, I know, some folks will be saying; "Tannehill is on his couch for a reason." and they'd be right.

So was Joe Flacco last year.

No, Tannehill couldn't win you a bunch of games but could he win a few in Arthur Smith's offense that he's ultra comfortable in? You bet your ass.

Fields has shown enough that he has the starting spot locked down. There isn't even a question anymore and he's getting better each week.

If I can turn Russell Wilson into a high pick for next year, on a team that really needs reinforcements at several positions (especially WR and DL) I make that fucking trade today.

[SteelPro]

The Phins are desperate.

2nd rounder or bust.

mobile QBs like Fields rarely stay healthy for 17 games. I’d be in no hurry to sell Russ. That is a good way to lose your locker room.

First, I don't think Russ would be happy backing up Fields. He didn't sign with the Steelers to sit on the bench.

I doubt he'll be a problem child but Russ is on a 1 year deal with almost no chance he'll be back in Pittsburgh next year.

Fields sure as hell looks like he's gonna be back. Also, Justin Fields is a big dude. He's young and is mobile enough to avoid big hits.

If Tua can stay healthy last year for 18 games, it wouldn't shock me in the least if Fields didn't miss more than a game or 2.

I loved the Russ signing at the time and you're right, he's quality depth but (again, this is just speculation) if you can get a pretty fucking high draft pick from a very, very desperate Miami team for Wilson (who again is on a 1 year deal and almost certainly will not return) I make that trade faster than you would say yes to Alexandra Daddario offering to bang you.

Also as soon as I traded Russ, I would bring in Ryan Tannehill to back up Fields. I know, I know, some folks will be saying; "Tannehill is on his couch for a reason." and they'd be right.

So was Joe Flacco last year.

No, Tannehill couldn't win you a bunch of games but could he win a few in Arthur Smith's offense that he's ultra comfortable in? You bet your ass.

Fields has shown enough that he has the starting spot locked down. There isn't even a question anymore and he's getting better each week.

If I can turn Russell Wilson into a high pick for next year, on a team that really needs reinforcements at several positions (especially WR and DL) I make that fucking trade today.

Justin Fields has missed games with injuries each of his first three NFL seasons. You want to tell the leaders in your locker room like Watt, Heyward, Fitzpatrick that you are trading off Russ Wilson to a conference rival for a draft pick? No way.. not when you are sitting at the top of the division and the top of the conference. If things go south the next few weeks maybe you entertain that thought. But unless Wilson chirps that he wants traded then this shouldn’t even be considered.

[bradshaw2ben]

It appears that Alt only played 46 out of 46 chargers offensive snaps. Herbert played every chargers drive until the 4th quarter.

Pickens played 74% of snaps, chargers top 3 WRs played 80%, 72%, and 72% of snaps.

I was referring to Palmer, who didn’t play. I actually thought Herbert wasn’t right already at halftime but maybe I’m wrong about that.

So sure let’s call it No Bosa or Palmer the whole game, Herbert hobbled/out, LT out early.

The win was impressive and it also was helped by these things.

The Steelers D did hit another gear in H2, and the dang offense threw more in the MOF than they have in any game for years… so it may have not mattered

If they were healthier they might have played better, sure.

But on O, their QB1, LT1, RT1, and WR2 missed a combined 72 snaps. Our QB1, RT1, LG1, and WR2 missed a combined 261 snaps. That’s not even touching on Jaylen Warren, arguably our best offensive player (more objectively our #2 player), not being able to run yesterday. Chargers offense was relatively healthy as NFL teams go.

Anyway, do you still believe we lack upper tier talent on D?

I think the defense can’t have played much better than they have through three weeks. They’ve been outstanding. They probably still have coverage issues but when no one can even slow down your edges or keep your 40-year old DT from wrecking the game, we’ve no way of knowing.

Still very concerned about Patrick Queen in coverage, CB depth, EDGE depth if Highsmith is out for a length of time… but their front 7 is bringing it.

My fantasy is: I’d like to see what this defense looks like vs an elite QB who gets good protection. But the problem with that fantasy is that—how many teams are truly capable of that? Not many. KC. Buffalo. SF.

So maybe we won’t know jack about this team’s playoff chances vs a great team until December, so why try to figure it out now? That’s about where I’m at.

The defense is as good as there is at the moment, the offense suddenly throws in the MOF. They’re not suddenly the Super Bowl favorite, but if things continue on this path, they’re also as good a dark horse as anyone.

[K_C_]

mobile QBs like Fields rarely stay healthy for 17 games. I’d be in no hurry to sell Russ. That is a good way to lose your locker room.

First, I don't think Russ would be happy backing up Fields. He didn't sign with the Steelers to sit on the bench.

I doubt he'll be a problem child but Russ is on a 1 year deal with almost no chance he'll be back in Pittsburgh next year.

Fields sure as hell looks like he's gonna be back. Also, Justin Fields is a big dude. He's young and is mobile enough to avoid big hits.

If Tua can stay healthy last year for 18 games, it wouldn't shock me in the least if Fields didn't miss more than a game or 2.

I loved the Russ signing at the time and you're right, he's quality depth but (again, this is just speculation) if you can get a pretty fucking high draft pick from a very, very desperate Miami team for Wilson (who again is on a 1 year deal and almost certainly will not return) I make that trade faster than you would say yes to Alexandra Daddario offering to bang you.

Also as soon as I traded Russ, I would bring in Ryan Tannehill to back up Fields. I know, I know, some folks will be saying; "Tannehill is on his couch for a reason." and they'd be right.

So was Joe Flacco last year.

No, Tannehill couldn't win you a bunch of games but could he win a few in Arthur Smith's offense that he's ultra comfortable in? You bet your ass.

Fields has shown enough that he has the starting spot locked down. There isn't even a question anymore and he's getting better each week.

If I can turn Russell Wilson into a high pick for next year, on a team that really needs reinforcements at several positions (especially WR and DL) I make that fucking trade today.

Justin Fields has missed games with injuries each of his first three NFL seasons. You want to tell the leaders in your locker room like Watt, Heyward, Fitzpatrick that you are trading off Russ Wilson to a conference rival for a draft pick? No way.. not when you are sitting at the top of the division and the top of the conference. If things go south the next few weeks maybe you entertain that thought. But unless Wilson chirps that he wants traded then this shouldn’t even be considered.

Yes, Justin Fields missed games with injuries.....on a TERRIBLE Bears team with a terrible offensive line, terrible coaching and no weapons.

Basically in Chicago, Fields was handed the ball and told; "Go out there and wing it son and make magic with no help whatsoever around you."

It's the complete opposite in Pittsburgh. The Steelers actually have a solid offensive game plan where Fields can play within his limits and isn't being asked, Big Ben style, to play hero ball for 60 minutes. That's why Fields got hurt in Chicago, I mean Jesus H. Christ did you watch Fields with the Bears?

Totally different situation in Pittsburgh.

Oh and yes, yes I 100% trade Russell Wilson to a conference rival if I can rape them for a second rounder. You confident Russ will be healthy this year if he has to play for an extended period?

I'm not and that dude's body might be breaking down. Let that happen in South Beach.

[Orangesteel]

My only continued knock on Arthur Smith is the stretch tosses to Najee. In fact, there was a stat yesterday in the game when it was still close that the Steelers had 6 plays on offense for loss while the Chargers only had 1, which obviously changed when we dominated the second half.

Najee is an irritating RB to watch; between the tackles he can be very good and some of that Bama vision and heavy burst is still there. But under no circumstances should they be sending him around the end because he just can’t do that. He obviously lacks the burst but he also too often will slow down to make a cut when he doesn’t have the tools to turn that into positive yards.

If Warren is going to be sidelined a few weeks I’m fine with Scoradelle running the ball but he’s the guy that should be taking a toss. Najee is a solid teammate and a nice complement back but he’s way below what you see in the NFL these days in terms of a feature guy.

[tbsteel]

Did the chargers gain any yards in the 2nd half? The announcers were saying late that they had negative yards in the 2nd half. Or were they talking about just 1 of the components of offensive yards?

-5 yards for the Bolts in the second half and the Steelers had 5 sacks also in the second half.

You can only play who you play, but the chargers by halftime had lost both OTs, the best pass rusher, their number 2. WR, and their stud QB. They looked ready to get on the team plane about halfway through Q3.

B2B, this isn't accurate.

Herbert exited the game at 6:51 ish of the 3rd quarter on 3rd and 18. Heineke takes one snap before the fourth quarter. Alt didn't leave the game until very late.

I mean, I'm all for dumping on this group, don't get me wrong lol, but the Steelers lost their starting RT two days before the game, lost their #3 CB early, lost their #2 WR very early on for most of the game, lost our starting EDGE I believe in the second or early third. And the guy we signed to be our starter at QB has been out all year.

It's not really the Steelers fault that a) we've got great depth at tackle and OLB, b) that our #2 WR sucks so it's no loss and c) that our backup QB is probably just as good as our "starter."

The Chargers wore down over the course of the game. They definitely waived the white flag by the end of it.

[jebrick]

My fantasy is: I’d like to see what this defense looks like vs an elite QB who gets good protection. But the problem with that fantasy is that—how many teams are truly capable of that? Not many. KC. Buffalo. SF.

Thus the issue. This will happen in the playoffs and the OFFENSE must score at least 24-28 points. That part is not happening yet.

[jmacinwbp]

My fantasy is: I’d like to see what this defense looks like vs an elite QB who gets good protection. But the problem with that fantasy is that—how many teams are truly capable of that? Not many. KC. Buffalo. SF.

Thus the issue. This will happen in the playoffs and the OFFENSE must score at least 24-28 points. That part is not happening yet.

while technically true, the team could have easily had 27 yesterday if they really cared about stats like this, but decided to take three kneel downs.

[K_C_]

My fantasy is: I’d like to see what this defense looks like vs an elite QB who gets good protection. But the problem with that fantasy is that—how many teams are truly capable of that? Not many. KC. Buffalo. SF.

Thus the issue. This will happen in the playoffs and the OFFENSE must score at least 24-28 points. That part is not happening yet.

while technically true, the team could have easily had 27 yesterday if they really cared about stats like this, but decided to take three kneel downs.

Yep, I badly wanted that 27.

I had the Steelers winning 27-17 in the score game.

[SteelPro]

Just my two cents.. it’s stupid to kneel down and not add guaranteed points at the end of games this early in the season. I’m all for good sportsmanship but net points are actually a tiebreaker for the playoffs standings. Could you imagine missing the playoffs because you were edged out by a couple of points on a tiebreaker?