What is this team's identity?

[AirRescueFF]

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Identity: Mediocre.

[Ice]

FC's, as I recall, a big O-line guy, line play in general, and O-line has (as someone mentioned) been a Ferentz strength, as well as, more recently TEs.

[Ice]

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Identity: Mediocre.

After years of that graphic (thanks, Lit), I think I just realized C. Brown is wearing Pittsburgh colors.

[Steel Bingo]

Offensively, the identity of the team is one that has struggled to find consistency along the offensive line. That is going on six seasons at this point and it has the skill players, especially the QB, stuck in second gear.

Great as those two QBs for Bal and Cin played yesterday, both teams deserved to lose that game. And my take, it is more hideous to not be able to stop the opponent than it is to not be able to move the ball against them.

Overall, with the exception of some seasons in the 2010s, this team wins with defense. Frequently that means bleeding out the opponent, however slowly that process may be, before they themselves bleed out. Some fans seemed to be enraged by this identity. If the offense could get rolling though, I believe this strategy works. If the offense could get into overdrive, lookout!

The Steelers sincerely tried to address the OL this past offseason, but are already down the top pick (Troy Fautanu) to the IR list. It would appear as though they are still trying their best to correct the OL issue, though. Starting their rookies and getting them playing experience. Playing in the NFL is hard. If it were easy, rookies would come in all the time and dominate and not make mistakes. It is not easy. The OL issue remains in Pittsburgh. It does look like there is hope for the future, with the majority of the men up front slated to be on the roster for several season to come, including this season.

[langer]

If the offense could get into overdrive, lookout!

They can't even get out of first gear. They are all running around with 200lb weights tied to their ankles. So much is holding everything back, with no clear path in sight.

There isn't a Ben on this team. The past is the present is the future, currently.

[Jobu]

In Tomlin’s mind, the offense is in overdrive!

[Gonzo]

The false premise above is that the O wants to be in overdrive.
The play calling is intentional and independent of the OL or skill

[Rod & Wire Mill]

They are who I thought they were

[Havoc]

Our identity is pretty clear. We want to win the second half.

It’s definitely intentional at this point. In the first half, we soft zone and let people burn through their playbook and just try to keep them out of the end zone, then in the second half we open up the playbook on both sides of the ball. It usually works, where ‘usually’ means ‘slightly more than 50% of the time’. It’s also painful to watch and just looks stupid when the other team’s last drive doesn’t throw a pick.

I was listening to the Iowa/Ohio State broadcast and the announcer was talking about the Iowa HC saying "he just wants it to be close in 4th and they can eke it out in the end"

This is Tomlins's exact philosophy and it's moronic.

Also why you don't hear Ferentz' name mentioned in NFL coaching discussions anymore. At one point, it came up relatively regularly. Stopped five or ten years ago, which also kind of says something.

I have a buddy who coached at Iowa. He coached there before the Ferentz era but he knows Ferentz.

He and I have had many discussions on offensive philosophy, Iowa, the Steelers, and Tomlin.

My buddy doesn't like conservative offense. It drives him crazy. He once coached his son's soccer team. Knew nothing about soccer. Doesn't even like soccer. Had his team scoring at a crazy high rate. Everyone scored goals except the goalie. The kids loved it. Yeah, their opponents scored a lot too because of how they played but his team won the championship. Coaches who were "purists" from the opposing team would come up to him and say "You can't do that!!". His response, "Why not?" LOL

I wish he was the HC of the Steelers and I'm not joking.

He acknowledges Steelers fans have the same frustration with Tomlin that Iowa fans have with Ferentz.

He and I have shared some laughs at the 2 teams being mirror images of each other under Ferentz and Tomlin.

[SDSteelerFan]

I have a buddy who coached at Iowa. He coached there before the Ferentz era but he knows Ferentz.

He and I have had many discussions on offensive philosophy, Iowa, the Steelers, and Tomlin.

My buddy doesn't like conservative offense. It drives him crazy. When he coached in any sport, he coached balls to the wall on both sides of the ball. He once coached his son's soccer team. Knew nothing about soccer. Doesn't even like soccer. Had his team scoring at a crazy high rate. Everyone scored goals except the goalie. The kids loved it. Yeah, their opponents scored a lot too because of how they played but his team won the championship. Coaches who were "purists" from the opposing team would come up to him and say "You can't do that!!". His response, "Why not?" LOL

I wish he was the HC of the Steelers and I'm not joking.

He acknowledges Steelers fans have the same frustration with Tomlin that Iowa fans have with Ferentz.

He and I have shared some laughs at the 2 teams being mirror images of each other under Ferentz and Tomlin.

This is almost sad. I grew up in Iowa. The very reason I now follow the Steelers is because when I was a little kid I thought Steelers were where Hawkeyes went when they grew up. No kidding, that started it. I follow two teams, Hawkeyes and Steelers.

Its like watching the same game twice a weekend.

[Orangesteel]

This is our identity:

Through 5 weeks the Steelers are the only team in the league where WR1 and WR2 haven’t scored a single TD.

Wrap your head around that.

[swissvale72]

I was listening to the Iowa/Ohio State broadcast and the announcer was talking about the Iowa HC saying "he just wants it to be close in 4th and they can eke it out in the end"

This is Tomlins's exact philosophy and it's moronic.

Also why you don't hear Ferentz' name mentioned in NFL coaching discussions anymore. At one point, it came up relatively regularly. Stopped five or ten years ago, which also kind of says something.

I have a buddy who coached at Iowa. He coached there before the Ferentz era but he knows Ferentz.

He and I have had many discussions on offensive philosophy, Iowa, the Steelers, and Tomlin.

My buddy doesn't like conservative offense. It drives him crazy. He once coached his son's soccer team. Knew nothing about soccer. Doesn't even like soccer. Had his team scoring at a crazy high rate. Everyone scored goals except the goalie. The kids loved it. Yeah, their opponents scored a lot too because of how they played but his team won the championship. Coaches who were "purists" from the opposing team would come up to him and say "You can't do that!!". His response, "Why not?" LOL

I wish he was the HC of the Steelers and I'm not joking.

He acknowledges Steelers fans have the same frustration with Tomlin that Iowa fans have with Ferentz.

He and I have shared some laughs at the 2 teams being mirror images of each other under Ferentz and Tomlin.

And ferentz, of course, is a Pittsburgh guy

[BouldernBun]

I have a buddy who coached at Iowa. He coached there before the Ferentz era but he knows Ferentz.

He and I have had many discussions on offensive philosophy, Iowa, the Steelers, and Tomlin.

My buddy doesn't like conservative offense. It drives him crazy. When he coached in any sport, he coached balls to the wall on both sides of the ball. He once coached his son's soccer team. Knew nothing about soccer. Doesn't even like soccer. Had his team scoring at a crazy high rate. Everyone scored goals except the goalie. The kids loved it. Yeah, their opponents scored a lot too because of how they played but his team won the championship. Coaches who were "purists" from the opposing team would come up to him and say "You can't do that!!". His response, "Why not?" LOL

I wish he was the HC of the Steelers and I'm not joking.

He acknowledges Steelers fans have the same frustration with Tomlin that Iowa fans have with Ferentz.

He and I have shared some laughs at the 2 teams being mirror images of each other under Ferentz and Tomlin.

This is almost sad. I grew up in Iowa. The very reason I now follow the Steelers is because when I was a little kid I thought Steelers were where Hawkeyes went when they grew up. No kidding, that started it. I follow two teams, Hawkeyes and Steelers.
Its like watching the same game twice a weekend.

Speaking of watching the same game twice, The Steelers call your twice and raise you 298 Tomlins (including playoff games).
I can't tell you how many times I have thought of Monty Pythons Deja Vu episode watching the same old game plan? week after week, year after year, decade after decade.
The difference is Monty Python remains great no matter how many times viewed. Coaches vision hangs in the air like stale cigarette smoke at 5AM on a calm morning every Sunday. It stinks.
Instead of always doubling down on the same old shit, this guy could probably get to the SB IF he would just deviate. The best time to do this would be after a typical NHALS season where he backs into the playoffs.
Our opponents (and us) would be completely dumbfounded. The offensive genius and his SB trophy. All those years spent lulling the opponent (and fans) to sleep and KAPOW!!! a legendary SB run, victory. He had us right where he wanted us the whole time.
I wish your buddy was head coach also!

[Ice]

I have a buddy who coached at Iowa. He coached there before the Ferentz era but he knows Ferentz.

He and I have had many discussions on offensive philosophy, Iowa, the Steelers, and Tomlin.

My buddy doesn't like conservative offense. It drives him crazy. When he coached in any sport, he coached balls to the wall on both sides of the ball. He once coached his son's soccer team. Knew nothing about soccer. Doesn't even like soccer. Had his team scoring at a crazy high rate. Everyone scored goals except the goalie. The kids loved it. Yeah, their opponents scored a lot too because of how they played but his team won the championship. Coaches who were "purists" from the opposing team would come up to him and say "You can't do that!!". His response, "Why not?" LOL

I wish he was the HC of the Steelers and I'm not joking.

He acknowledges Steelers fans have the same frustration with Tomlin that Iowa fans have with Ferentz.

He and I have shared some laughs at the 2 teams being mirror images of each other under Ferentz and Tomlin.

This is almost sad. I grew up in Iowa. The very reason I now follow the Steelers is because when I was a little kid I thought Steelers were where Hawkeyes went when they grew up. No kidding, that started it. I follow two teams, Hawkeyes and Steelers.

Its like watching the same game twice a weekend.

Torture by contrast in my household this season. Saturdays watching Ohio State and now Pitt run and pass it up and down the field with creativity
tempo and scheme and score with ease, then Sunday watching, well, the Steelers.

[stillthere]

[Deebo]

I have a buddy who coached at Iowa. He coached there before the Ferentz era but he knows Ferentz.

He and I have had many discussions on offensive philosophy, Iowa, the Steelers, and Tomlin.

My buddy doesn't like conservative offense. It drives him crazy. When he coached in any sport, he coached balls to the wall on both sides of the ball. He once coached his son's soccer team. Knew nothing about soccer. Doesn't even like soccer. Had his team scoring at a crazy high rate. Everyone scored goals except the goalie. The kids loved it. Yeah, their opponents scored a lot too because of how they played but his team won the championship. Coaches who were "purists" from the opposing team would come up to him and say "You can't do that!!". His response, "Why not?" LOL

I wish he was the HC of the Steelers and I'm not joking.

He acknowledges Steelers fans have the same frustration with Tomlin that Iowa fans have with Ferentz.

He and I have shared some laughs at the 2 teams being mirror images of each other under Ferentz and Tomlin.

This is almost sad. I grew up in Iowa. The very reason I now follow the Steelers is because when I was a little kid I thought Steelers were where Hawkeyes went when they grew up. No kidding, that started it. I follow two teams, Hawkeyes and Steelers.

Its like watching the same game twice a weekend.

That's funny. I too thought all the players who played for the Hawkeyes eventually played for the Steelers. I lived in OH so I caught a fair amount of Iowa games...I can still picture Hayden Fry roaming the sidelines with his hat...

[gojira5150]

I have a buddy who coached at Iowa. He coached there before the Ferentz era but he knows Ferentz.

He and I have had many discussions on offensive philosophy, Iowa, the Steelers, and Tomlin.

My buddy doesn't like conservative offense. It drives him crazy. When he coached in any sport, he coached balls to the wall on both sides of the ball. He once coached his son's soccer team. Knew nothing about soccer. Doesn't even like soccer. Had his team scoring at a crazy high rate. Everyone scored goals except the goalie. The kids loved it. Yeah, their opponents scored a lot too because of how they played but his team won the championship. Coaches who were "purists" from the opposing team would come up to him and say "You can't do that!!". His response, "Why not?" LOL

I wish he was the HC of the Steelers and I'm not joking.

He acknowledges Steelers fans have the same frustration with Tomlin that Iowa fans have with Ferentz.

He and I have shared some laughs at the 2 teams being mirror images of each other under Ferentz and Tomlin.

This is almost sad. I grew up in Iowa. The very reason I now follow the Steelers is because when I was a little kid I thought Steelers were where Hawkeyes went when they grew up. No kidding, that started it. I follow two teams, Hawkeyes and Steelers.

Its like watching the same game twice a weekend.

Same here. Was born in Cedar Rapids and became a Steelers fan as I thought they were the NFL version of the Hawkeyes. This was in '74 when I was 7:)

[SDSteelerFan]

That's awesome. Love hearing that I'm not the only one who connected those two teams that way. Towards the end of the 70's I was just starting to understand football a little. And the Hawkeyes were good in the 80's. Although they always seemed to get smoked in Bowl games.

[Gonzo]

Steeler identity is mimimize risk and blame to maintain mediocrity and keep getting paid

[stillthere]

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