B2B 2025 Draft QB Stock Exchange

[bradshaw2ben]

Stock down on the midget from Arizona. Stock down on the always injured Grayson McCall.

Stock to the moon...Arch Manning. Texas is the best team in the nation at this point.

Cam Ward continues to impress, easily the #1 QB in the 2025 draft in my opinion.

"Whose welfare check you gotta cash to get a burger around here?" Was not a fan of the Massive Genius storyline.

Arch Manning is good... but he's not draft eligible.. Nor is the Tennesee QB nor the Virginai guy.

Yeah, I thought McCall's first couple of games have done in his chances. If not for his shoulder injury, he would have come out in 2022 and been in a pretty good position. Doubt he is anything but a longshot now.

Aside from Cam Ward disposing of a middling Ball State team, TJ Finley has played well two weeks in a row since the debacle at Alabama.
Carson Beck. was a bit of a mixed bag. Struggled at times with a subpar opponent.

GOING FIRST ROUND PRETTY MUCH WHATEVER HAPPENS
Cam Ward
Carson Beck
Quinn Ewers

WON'T GO AS HIGH AS HE SHOULD
Taylen Green
TJ Finley

HAVEN'T SEEN ENOUGH BUT PROMISING
Kyle McCord

STOCK DOWN SOME
Noah Fifita.
Shadeur Sanders

STOCK PRETTY HIGH
Will Howard
Jaxson Dart
Nussmeier
Cam Miller
Jalen Milroe
Drew Allar
Haynes King
Miller Moss
Mark Gronowski
Matthew Sluka... not the steadiest, but has made some huge plays for them. They are on the shortlist for a playoff spot, which could help him
Kaidon Slater
Tyler Shough Old AF but can play


STOCK DOWN A LOT
Greyson McCall

INCOMPLETE (Injured)
Grayson James. I believe he dressed for practice this week.

[SteelerDayTrader]

Love this thread

[Steeldrama]

Buford HS star Dylan Raiola = STUD

One of most poised freshman qbs I’ve ever seen

Mature beyond his years

Silly good TD to the Neyor transfer from Texas just before the half

When does Tomlin’s contract expire???

[bradshaw2ben]

Different twist this week... some stats:

[Ice]

Howard is going to need some serious help with his footwork at some point. It's certainly fixable (NE has completely reworked Drake Maye, for instance), and he's got amazing God given athletic talent, like Josh Allen type tools. With the current coaching staff's record for "development of talent," though, I'm not sure they're up to the task of unlocking it. We're probably going to need to look for more of a finished product.

[jebrick]

Howard is going to need some serious help with his footwork at some point. It's certainly fixable (NE has completely reworked Drake Maye, for instance), and he's got amazing God given athletic talent, like Josh Allen type tools. With the current coaching staff's record for "development of talent," though, I'm not sure they're up to the task of unlocking it. We're probably going to need to look for more of a finished product.

Most schools are going to coach enough to win. Josh Allen took an entire off season to redo his footwork and base alignment. Howard needs to go to a team that will give him time to adjust.

[Ice]

Yeah, tOSU definitely recruited him as a turnkey solution at QB, and I'd guess they're spending far more time coaching up Sayin and Noland (and soon St. Clair) than they are Howard. Honestly, shame the Steelers don't have (at least until I see it) the staff to finish the job on him. I like what they've done with Fields as far as simplifying the game and putting him in position to succeed, but that's apples and oranges compared to what Howard would probably need to put it all together. Somebody's gonna get a seriously good prospect there.

[Charles Demarr]

Yeah, tOSU definitely recruited him as a turnkey solution at QB, and I'd guess they're spending far more time coaching up Sayin and Noland (and soon St. Clair) than they are Howard. Honestly, shame the Steelers don't have (at least until I see it) the staff to finish the job on him. I like what they've done with Fields as far as simplifying the game and putting him in position to succeed, but that's apples and oranges compared to what Howard would probably need to put it all together. Somebody's gonna get a seriously good prospect there.

I think Noland will be the odd man out. My guess, he transfers next year. Sayin for 2 and then St. Clair for 2.

[Ice]

Sayin out of the portal was definitely a surprise, I thought they were pretty high on Noland, and I think that offense works best with a dual threat. That said, Sayin definitely didn't come to Columbus for nothing, and St. Clair is a superb talent, so it could work out that way. Wonder if watching Howard's legs changes some minds about mobility at the QB spot as this season goes on.

[Charles Demarr]

Sayin out of the portal was definitely a surprise, I thought they were pretty high on Noland, and I think that offense works best with a dual threat. That said, Sayin definitely didn't come to Columbus for nothing, and St. Clair is a superb talent, so it could work out that way. Wonder if watching Howard's legs changes some minds about mobility at the QB spot as this season goes on.

Great problems to have for sure. I've read many who think St. Clair is easily the most talented of the 3.

[bradshaw2ben]

So will Ewers regret not entering the draft if he can't get back on the field?

He 100% should have transferred. I said at the time it was shocking to me that he didn't. Difference between being a 1st round pick and a day 2 pick, so I hope that NIL deal was worth it.

[Ice]

Sayin out of the portal was definitely a surprise, I thought they were pretty high on Noland, and I think that offense works best with a dual threat. That said, Sayin definitely didn't come to Columbus for nothing, and St. Clair is a superb talent, so it could work out that way. Wonder if watching Howard's legs changes some minds about mobility at the QB spot as this season goes on.

Great problems to have for sure. I've read many who think St. Clair is easily the most talented of the 3.

I could see it. Not an exact science, but he looks really, really impressive in the cut-ups I've seen.

[bradshaw2ben]

Well, well... an interesting development... apparently UNLV reneged on Sluka's promised NIL deal. He faced the choice of:

A. continue to play without getting paid what was promised, using up his eligibility
B. take his redshirt to preserve his eligibility and try to get an NIL deal next year somewhere else

[Charles Demarr]

Well, well... an interesting development... apparently UNLV reneged on Sluka's promised NIL deal. He faced the choice of:

A. continue to play without getting paid what was promised, using up his eligibility
B. take his redshirt to preserve his eligibility and try to get an NIL deal next year somewhere else

My question after seeing this...Why doesn't he have a contract on the promised deal?

[bradshaw2ben]

Well, well... an interesting development... apparently UNLV reneged on Sluka's promised NIL deal. He faced the choice of:

A. continue to play without getting paid what was promised, using up his eligibility
B. take his redshirt to preserve his eligibility and try to get an NIL deal next year somewhere else

My question after seeing this...Why doesn't he have a contract on the promised deal?

His NIL agent said there was a verbal promise at the time of him transferring in January, and then the school and agent came to an "agreement" in February. Sluka's dad said that the school kept postponing the date for when they would pay/start paying... first, when camp started, then after camp, then game checks each week, then, finally they said "only a $3,000 relocation costs offset".

[bradshaw2ben]

Moar Stats:

QBR so far in 2024

1. Cam Ward (94.4)
2. Cade Klubnik (93.3)
3. Kurtis Rourke (92.4)
4. Drew Allar (90.3)
5. Jaxson Dart (88.7)
6. Will Howard (87.8)
7. Quinn Ewers (87.0)
8. Haynes King (85.2)
9. Josh Hoover (84.9)
10. Carson Beck (84.6)

Everybody on that list is "draft eligible"

[Steel Bingo]

Carson Beck has a prime opportunity to boost his Heisman stock tomorrow night vs. 'Bama.

Big fan of Jalen Milroe, but not sure who he is currently throwing the ball to for his passing yards.

Payton Thorne looks like a buy low candidate right now, and a essential component to keeping the Tigers relevant for what appears to be a very tough schedule moving forward.

T. J. Finley does not look like a professional football prospect to me.

Thought Will Howard deserved better than seemingly being exiled, but landing at tOSU should turn out to be a blessing, so well played!

Drew Allar looks to have potential, but would likely be well served to stay in school for his senior year. His talent is better utilized, displayed and developed in college football rather than pro football.

Dig both Jaxson Dart and Cade Klubnik.

[franco32]

Cam Ward sure is smooth. He can spin it. Great feel in the pocket. My big issue with him is these braindead decisions at times. He can be really loose with the football too. I like players that have a calm demeanor but you don't want nonchalant too much out there either. Something to really watch going forward after the VT game.

[bradshaw2ben]

Cam Ward sure is smooth. He can spin it. Great feel in the pocket. My big issue with him is these braindead decisions at times. He can be really loose with the football too. I like players that have a calm demeanor but you don't want nonchalant too much out there either. Something to really watch going forward after the VT game.

If he throws that ball to Restrepo up and over to the back pylon instead of on a line, that game isn't close and absolutely no one is talking about him being loose with the football. But it is what it is.

He's been playing very under control football this year but that was easily his worst game . Even so, he did what great QBs do when having a bad day: make enough good plays to offset the mistakes and win.

Anyway, bear in mind the bolded was the exact argument used to talk down Mahomes before his draft. Shit, give me a guy with unlimited arm talent, imagination, and bravado. I'd so much rather have that than timid guys with perfect decision-making in the eyes of their scardey-cat coaches.

[jebrick]

I think Beck did not hurt his draft stock even in a lost. Accurate and on time.

I still think Milroe will is a better college QB then he will be in the NFL. He will be over drafted

I did not like what I saw in Dart.

[bradshaw2ben]

I think Beck did not hurt his draft stock even in a lost. Accurate and on time.

I still think Milroe will is a better college QB then he will be in the NFL. He will be over drafted

I did not like what I saw in Dart.

Dart fell apart some. Beck was pretty bad until Alabama got a big lead. That's a little concerning. And that last throw with the game on the line was a big miss in an important spot. I feel the same way about Milroe-- and NFL teams do love them some running QBs.

I saw a lot of people talking about how Cam Ward was "moving up draft boards" after his game this week... meanwhile, it wasarguably his worst game in months. I will say that if Ward goes over the top with his RZ pass to Restrepo instead of throwin it on a line, that game isn't close and nobody is talking about Ward having a bad game.

I'll update the QB stat board shortly.

[bradshaw2ben]

Oh, and Grayson James got his first start for BC. They called a pretty conservative game but James won it in the end with some clutch play.

[Steeldrama]

I fast forwarded through my recording of the Bama win over Georgia last night (ohhh I was there, but some blank spots)

It really was a tale of two halves.

Milroe was sensational until Deboer pulled a Cowher and turtled too soon.

Such an elite physical talent. TV doesn’t do this kid justice.

Beck looked completely rattled and undraftable in the 1st half then unconscious in the 2nd half.

Colby Young should’ve knocked that ball down, but man what a finish.

Just a brutal interception to close out what was easily the funnest day I’ve ever had over in T-Town (and I was there for Burrow vs Tua).

700 miles from Pittsburgh and I still can’t escape the whole “easing in” bullshit. Kirby going to have to fire his best friend. Mike Bobo not qualified to be OC of a top 5 program like UGA. MAN UP, KIRBY!

Despite waking up in the 2nd half, Carson is stock down for me.

He’ll need a Brock Purdy-like situation to succeed in the NFL.

Yep

The NFL has a 4 game slate on Sunday

No Thanks

I cleared my Saturday schedule for a 4 game window instead

Without a marquee Georgia/Bama type matchup gonna be a lotta channel surfing tomorrow.

Noon will be a Pitt/Penn State surfing affair.

Drew Allar gets to welcome UCLA to Happy Valley

The fun to watch Holstein kid should pad his stats against a brutal Tar Heels defense.

3:30 window will give my thumb a workout

Will Howard has his first real test of the season against a good Hawkeyes defense.

Georgia/Auburn the South’s oldest rivalry. Beck (AND Bobo) needs an impressive bounce back home win.

Jaxon Dart faces another stout DL vs the Cocks. His stock took a hit vs my guy Deone Walker and the ‘Cats.

Odd 4:00 start for Dylan Raiola vs an upstart Rutgers squad on FSI.

4:15 (?) = Bama at Nashvegas an epic road trip I can’t recommend enough.

The ‘Dores don’t completely suck so shouldn’t be a trap game for Milroe. Kid’s got a fun personality but he’s all business on the field.

7:30 = Nico Time and the Hog QB B2B likes

10:30…..that’s 10:30... for Cam Ward getting upset at Berkley.

Residents be warned, Marshawn and McAfee will be out on the town tonight.

[jebrick]

I was more impressed with Justyn Martin(UCLA) than Allar yesterday.

I still have not got to watch OSU in the 2nd half. Howard INC

Milroe - Great college QB, less good NFL QB

Ward is reminding me more of Fields in college. Bad decision making.

[bradshaw2ben]

I was more impressed with Justyn Martin(UCLA) than Allar yesterday.

I still have not got to watch OSU in the 2nd half. Howard INC

Milroe - Great college QB, less good NFL QB

Ward is reminding me more of Fields in college. Bad decision making.

Ward’s game/decision-making reminds me 100% of a former college QB: Patrick Mahomes. I’m not sure if you remember what Mahomes looked like in college or what the groupthink knocks were on him in the run-up to that draft… but it was all about his penchant for risky throws and poor decision-making. What people ignored was that he also had the ability to cash most of those outlandish checks.

No doubt, the pick 6 Ward threw was as bad a QB mistake as you’ll ever see this side of Will Levis but he also almost single-handedly rebounded and orchestrated a nearly impossible comeback in the same game. He has incredible talent and I promise you, every team that had a chance to draft him and passed will regret it for years to come.

Btw, I was also really impressed with the UCLA QB.

[jebrick]

I was impressed with Howard this weekend.

[OhioSteeler]

I was impressed with Howard this weekend.

I thought he played really well. He's played the point guard role quite well. My biggest concern with him still lies in his deep ball. Back to back weeks he has hit Jeremiah Smith deep, but both times JS had to wait on the ball and go up for it.

[bradshaw2ben]

I was impressed with Howard this weekend.

I thought he played really well. He's played the point guard role quite well. My biggest concern with him still lies in his deep ball. Back to back weeks he has hit Jeremiah Smith deep, but both times JS had to wait on the ball and go up for it.

It’s really interesting tou we’re still impressed, despite the fact he messed up the end of the game! I too like Howard but that was not a good moment under pressure.

[SteelerDayTrader]

DJ U in the 5th

[OhioSteeler]

I was impressed with Howard this weekend.

I thought he played really well. He's played the point guard role quite well. My biggest concern with him still lies in his deep ball. Back to back weeks he has hit Jeremiah Smith deep, but both times JS had to wait on the ball and go up for it.

It’s really interesting tou we’re still impressed, despite the fact he messed up the end of the game! I too like Howard but that was not a good moment under pressure.

That whole last sequence was a debacle. Tomlin must have got a hold of Day and told him to take that TO back to Columbus.