FIRE MIKE TOMLIN NOW!

[cyberlaz]

Maybe internally he's been re-informed that if they can't win a PO game, then its done, yea, Santa Claus stuff I know, but i mention the Art 2 intervention plan in another thread

At some point I think HE has to realize that he can't get it done and will retire. I don't think the Steelers will fire him...it's not something they do and they will be dropping big hints for him to hang it up or maybe come right out and tell him to move on.

I think he is starting to get it a little that he just doesn't have what it takes to make it again. Or maybe he never did? He won with a Cowher team that was overflowing with talent and hall of famers. As time has moved on with his influence on the team they have lost that championship mojo. You could see it with the 2010 season...as Cowher's team slowly faded out so did the playoff wins. His best year was 2016 when the Steelers had Ben, Brown, Bell and Bryant. They had a great team that year and he couldn't do it. They got smoked in the AFC Championship game. I mean it wasn't even close. He could coach the chiefs right now and they would probably lose their first playoff game.

He's Mediocre Mike...he's also very egotistical. He doesn't want to come to the grips with the fact a lot of the failures are because of him. He started out on a tear with playoffs his first year and then a Super Bowl win in 2008 season and then appearance in the 2011 Super Bowl. Since then it been mediocre Mike. All that success early on puffed up his big head to think that he was some great coach and he knew exactly what he was doing. I think it's finally starting to sink in to him that he is not. As he has influenced this team over the years they've become just like him...mediocre.

All the talking heads love him. Oh he's a players coach...he's great to work under...on and on and on. That's great but last time I checked the NFL is about winning. When they give out a trophy for nicest coach maybe he will win something. L:ike Tomlin remarked on Parker's ire about not getting the ball some time ago "Every day I walk past 6 Lombardi trophies not 6 Mr. Congeniality trophies".

Then we hear from the "experts" that you don't want him to leave because he will be hired the next day. I hope when he does leave that the Ravens or Bengals hire him. Then we won't have to worry about them winning a championship anymore. He can go to one of them and make them mediocre.

Mediocre Mike has been the coach for 18 seasons now I think. Think about Noll's first 18 years and Cowher's 16 years or however long it was he was coach...so much success from those two guys. Cowher's knock was he couldn't win the AFC championship game but most of the time was always in the hunt. I think Cowher lost 3 or 4 but won 2 right? Tomlin has been to 2...won one and lost the other over 18 years not to mention the fact that the Steelers haven't won a playoff game in 8 years.

Now I am starting to second guess my second guessing of him starting Wilson when he was healthy. I wanted Fields to keep playing because they were doing well with him. Wilson got in there and there was a significant increase in offense but now it's gone. Now I am starting to think that it would've been better to stick with Fields to give him the snaps to make him better. Tomlin wanted Wilson to start thinking he would save his ass seemingly much like Roethlisberger did over the years. I think we are going to end up in the same spot if Fields would've been the start all this time...one and done in the playoffs.

TB said it best and as far as I know never recanted...Tomlin is a cheerleader.

[DumlinBumlinStumlin]

Maybe internally he's been re-informed that if they can't win a PO game, then its done, yea, Santa Claus stuff I know, but i mention the Art 2 intervention plan in another thread

At some point I think HE has to realize that he can't get it done and will retire. I don't think the Steelers will fire him...it's not something they do and they will be dropping big hints for him to hang it up or maybe come right out and tell him to move on.

I think he is starting to get it a little that he just doesn't have what it takes to make it again. Or maybe he never did? He won with a Cowher team that was overflowing with talent and hall of famers. As time has moved on with his influence on the team they have lost that championship mojo. You could see it with the 2010 season...as Cowher's team slowly faded out so did the playoff wins. His best year was 2016 when the Steelers had Ben, Brown, Bell and Bryant. They had a great team that year and he couldn't do it. They got smoked in the AFC Championship game. I mean it wasn't even close. He could coach the chiefs right now and they would probably lose their first playoff game.

He's Mediocre Mike...he's also very egotistical. He doesn't want to come to the grips with the fact a lot of the failures are because of him. He started out on a tear with playoffs his first year and then a Super Bowl win in 2008 season and then appearance in the 2011 Super Bowl. Since then it been mediocre Mike. All that success early on puffed up his big head to think that he was some great coach and he knew exactly what he was doing. I think it's finally starting to sink in to him that he is not. As he has influenced this team over the years they've become just like him...mediocre.

All the talking heads love him. Oh he's a players coach...he's great to work under...on and on and on. That's great but last time I checked the NFL is about winning. When they give out a trophy for nicest coach maybe he will win something. L:ike Tomlin remarked on Parker's ire about not getting the ball some time ago "Every day I walk past 6 Lombardi trophies not 6 Mr. Congeniality trophies".

Then we hear from the "experts" that you don't want him to leave because he will be hired the next day. I hope when he does leave that the Ravens or Bengals hire him. Then we won't have to worry about them winning a championship anymore. He can go to one of them and make them mediocre.

Mediocre Mike has been the coach for 18 seasons now I think. Think about Noll's first 18 years and Cowher's 16 years or however long it was he was coach...so much success from those two guys. Cowher's knock was he couldn't win the AFC championship game but most of the time was always in the hunt. I think Cowher lost 3 or 4 but won 2 right? Tomlin has been to 2...won one and lost the other over 18 years not to mention the fact that the Steelers haven't won a playoff game in 8 years.

Now I am starting to second guess my second guessing of him starting Wilson when he was healthy. I wanted Fields to keep playing because they were doing well with him. Wilson got in there and there was a significant increase in offense but now it's gone. Now I am starting to think that it would've been better to stick with Fields to give him the snaps to make him better. Tomlin wanted Wilson to start thinking he would save his ass seemingly much like Roethlisberger did over the years. I think we are going to end up in the same spot if Fields would've been the start all this time...one and done in the playoffs.

TB said it best and as far as I know never recanted...Tomlin is a cheerleader.

you said it perfectly in bold. That is what i expect happens, to save face, he looks rosy to the big business world / tv and bows out.

[DumlinBumlinStumlin]

pomp & joe morning show replay segment:

https://www.audacy.com/podcast/the-pomp ... apse-2618d

Is it officially a Steelers collapse? Coaching is the biggest issue. It was a complete mismatch yesterday. Even without their best defensive player, the Chiefs' were well orchestrated. Mahommes numbers against the Steelers are just ridiculous. The Steelers had a bad start once again. We will have many of the same offseason questions again this year. Is there a middle ground between the hatred and the praise for Tomlin? He's a good coach, but is he the right man still in Pittsburgh? Joe doubles down on his Reid as COY pick. Are the Ravens the only team in the AFC that can beat KC?

[cyberlaz]

you said it perfectly in bold. That is what i expect happens, to save face, he looks rosy to the big business world / tv and bows out.

The only thing that stands in his way is his big ass ego. He figures he won a Super Bowl and been to another along with the media talking him up all the time. His big ego is going to prevent him from retiring thinking he's knows what he is doing, etc. I am sure he thought he was the next Vince Lombardi after the 2008 season. What was that story he told on America's Game about how he got out of bed to watch a cut up of all the picks and realized that no one was blocking on the pick returns. You could see him thinking he was the Erwin Rommel of the NFL suggesting to his players that they block more on interception returns. He was thinking they won the super bowl because of him. No they won because of Harrison dropping into pass coverage instead of rushing and Ben Roethlisberger and Holmes having an epic drive to save the game at the end. He's the Pittsburgh version of Barry Switzer.

If he was smart he would realize to get out now before he piles on some more mediocre seasons salting away his reputation as a "great coach"

[StillerDownSouth]

A power back is only useful if he had some speed and quick feet and good vision, this is why Najee is a JAG who benefited playing at Alabama

[langer]

Hey, man, you don't talk to the Coach. You listen to him. The man's enlarged my mind. He's a poet warrior in the classic sense. I mean sometimes he'll... uh... well, you'll say "hello" to him, right? And he'll just walk right by you. He won't even notice you. And suddenly he'll grab you, and he'll throw you in a corner, and he'll say, "Do you know that 'if' is the middle word in life? If you can keep your head when all about you are losing theirs and blaming it on you, if you can trust yourself when all men doubt you"... I mean I'm... no, I can't... I'm a little man, I'm a little man, he's... he's a great man! I should have been a pair of ragged claws scuttling across floors of silent seas...

[W&M_Steeler]

His best year was 2016 when the Steelers had Ben, Brown, Bell and Bryant. They had a great team that year and he couldn't do it. They got smoked in the AFC Championship game. I mean it wasn't even close. He could coach the chiefs right now and they would probably lose their first playoff game.

They didn't have Bryant in the 2016 AFCC game. Bryant was suspended for the entire 2016 season for Marijuana use. It really screwed the Steelers because they had a ton of injuries at WR that year. The Steelers started Cobi Hamilton opposite of AB in that AFCC game. Bryant might have made a difference in that game, but I doubt it- the Pats were moving the ball at will, the lacrosse player had 200 yards receiving. Belichick had Tomlin's number.

The only playoff game in which all of the "Killer Bs" played was the 2017 divisional game against the Jags where the offense scored 42 points but that wasn't enough for the vaunted Tomlin defense against the legendary Blake Bortles Jags. Tomlin flowed that up with the 2018 collapse where the Steelers went from 7-2-1 and the first seed to out of the playoffs, despite finally beating the Patriots. Tomlin should have been fired after 2018

[DumlinBumlinStumlin]

you said it perfectly in bold. That is what i expect happens, to save face, he looks rosy to the big business world / tv and bows out.

The only thing that stands in his way is his big ass ego. He figures he won a Super Bowl and been to another along with the media talking him up all the time. His big ego is going to prevent him from retiring thinking he's knows what he is doing, etc.

If he was smart he would realize to get out now before he piles on some more mediocre seasons salting away his reputation as a "great coach"

The Joe podcast link, he takes several minutes to refute the Rich Eisen mantra that we think it's crazy to get rid of Tomlin. Joe's never advocated for Tomlin's firing, but he def asks the question, how many more years of this idiocy does the fanbase have to endure. Media questioning the elephant in the room. Same parallels being written about here today.

[DumlinBumlinStumlin]

8 yrs ago, the Bradshaw Cheerleader comment. Can't argue today and say Terry has been right

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z6r4dye-Qc0

[DumlinBumlinStumlin]

Greatest 15 Mins of Mike Tomlin Truth

https://x.com/frankmikesmith/status/187 ... 247089234/

Hope his next one centers around Rooney

[Stosh-67]

No one needs to pull up his recent playoff results as the pudding that's in the proof., so I will..........

3-9 in his last 12 playoff games,
No other coach in NFL history can compare to this playoff futility.
Anyone think of another HC with worse results in a 10-12 game stint?

The first of the 9 losses in 12 games........started with losing the Super Bowl to the Packers in Feb of 2011, 13 years ago.
In which he made his famous "easing into the game" quote.

The 3 wins against;
The Bengals and A.J. McCarron, who has 4 career NFL starts. A game In which the Steelers trailing 16-15, with 1:36 left, saw Bengals RB fumble on first down, recovered by Pitt at the Steelers 9. Then with no time outs and 22 second left from the Cincy 47, had a Ben to AB incompletion turn into 30 yards of personal fouls, for a Boz chip shot, and 18-16 win.
Little tidbit, Steelers led 15-0 after a Ben to Martavis TD, midway thru the 3rd. XP makes it 16-0.
NumNutz went for 2. The Steelers wound up trailing by that 1 little point a little over a quarter later.

The Dolphins and Matt Moore, who has 32 career starts. The last convincing playoff win. Jan 8th, 2017. 30-12, as the Steelers led 30-6 with 2 minutes left in the third

KC and Alex Smith. Another 18 pointer from Tomlin and the Steelers. Boz has been saving this guy for a decade.
THIS IS THE LAST PLAYOFF WIN!!!!!
Jan. 15th, 2017 ( 2016 season )

And now the bad, the real bad.

5 straight playoff loses.
No other coach in NFL history survives what I am about to type.
Gave up 36, 45, 48, 42 and 31 in those 5 games, avg. of 40 points per

36 points to the Pats. Down 10-0 after the first quarter.
Down 36-9 early 4th quarter.
Biggest deficit - 27 points

45 points to the Jags. Down 14-0 after the first quarter.
down 21-0 early 2nd and 28-7 with :25 seconds to the half.
Biggest deficit - 21 points

48 to the Browns. Down 28-0 after the first quarter.
Down 35-7 before a Boz Fg with time expiring at the half.
Biggest deficit - 28 points

42 points to KC.
Only game of the last 5 playoff games in which we had a lead.
TJ Watt, 26 yd fumble return for a TD early 2nd quarter.
Then KC stomped....21-7 at the half, 35-7 by late 3rd.
Biggest deficit - 28 points

31 points to Buffalo. Down 14-0 after the first quarter.
21-0 with less than 2 minutes to the half.
Biggest deficit - 21 points

How teams start games is indictive of how teams studied, game planned, schemed, motivated, prepared, play called, etc....
It all starts long before kick-off. It starts with the Head Coach.
Combined 66-0 after one quarter of play.
No other coach survives this. "Tomlin is one of the best NFL coaches."

I have said it before, many times....may as well say it again.
The Steelers lose more games before kick off, than any team in football.

Combined to be down 122-47 at the half.
No other coach survives this. "Tomlin will get another job in 2 seconds."

Deficits of 27, 21, 28, 28 and 21.
No other coach survives this. "Tomlin is loved by the masses, media and non-Steeler fans."

In the last 5 playoff games, the Steelers had a lead for a total of 6 minutes of football, out of 300 minutes of football.
No other coach survives this. "3 coaches in 55 years"

Tomlin has won a playoff game in only 4 of his 18 seasons.
7, one and done playoff seasons.

What will the 2025 playoff game bring to this story.

Please let it end.

viewtopic.php?f=2&t=23888

[anpsteel]

His best year was 2016 when the Steelers had Ben, Brown, Bell and Bryant. They had a great team that year and he couldn't do it. They got smoked in the AFC Championship game. I mean it wasn't even close. He could coach the chiefs right now and they would probably lose their first playoff game.

They didn't have Bryant in the 2016 AFCC game. Bryant was suspended for the entire 2016 season for Marijuana use. It really screwed the Steelers because they had a ton of injuries at WR that year. The Steelers started Cobi Hamilton opposite of AB in that AFCC game. Bryant might have made a difference in that game, but I doubt it- the Pats were moving the ball at will, the lacrosse player had 200 yards receiving. Belichick had Tomlin's number.

The only playoff game in which all of the "Killer Bs" played was the 2017 divisional game against the Jags where the offense scored 42 points but that wasn't enough for the vaunted Tomlin defense against the legendary Blake Bortles Jags. Tomlin flowed that up with the 2018 collapse where the Steelers went from 7-2-1 and the first seed to out of the playoffs, despite finally beating the Patriots. Tomlin should have been fired after 2018

He should have been fired after 2009

That was when it was apparent he was full of shit

[anpsteel]

No one needs to pull up his recent playoff results as the pudding that's in the proof., so I will..........

3-9 in his last 12 playoff games,
No other coach in NFL history can compare to this playoff futility.
Anyone think of another HC with worse results in a 10-12 game stint?

The first of the 9 losses in 12 games........started with losing the Super Bowl to the Packers in Feb of 2011, 13 years ago.
In which he made his famous "easing into the game" quote.

The 3 wins against;
The Bengals and A.J. McCarron, who has 4 career NFL starts. A game In which the Steelers trailing 16-15, with 1:36 left, saw Bengals RB fumble on first down, recovered by Pitt at the Steelers 9. Then with no time outs and 22 second left from the Cincy 47, had a Ben to AB incompletion turn into 30 yards of personal fouls, for a Boz chip shot, and 18-16 win.
Little tidbit, Steelers led 15-0 after a Ben to Martavis TD, midway thru the 3rd. XP makes it 16-0.
NumNutz went for 2. The Steelers wound up trailing by that 1 little point a little over a quarter later.

The Dolphins and Matt Moore, who has 32 career starts. The last convincing playoff win. Jan 8th, 2017. 30-12, as the Steelers led 30-6 with 2 minutes left in the third

KC and Alex Smith. Another 18 pointer from Tomlin and the Steelers. Boz has been saving this guy for a decade.
THIS IS THE LAST PLAYOFF WIN!!!!!
Jan. 15th, 2017 ( 2016 season )

And now the bad, the real bad.

5 straight playoff loses.
No other coach in NFL history survives what I am about to type.
Gave up 36, 45, 48, 42 and 31 in those 5 games, avg. of 40 points per

36 points to the Pats. Down 10-0 after the first quarter.
Down 36-9 early 4th quarter.
Biggest deficit - 27 points

45 points to the Jags. Down 14-0 after the first quarter.
down 21-0 early 2nd and 28-7 with :25 seconds to the half.
Biggest deficit - 21 points

48 to the Browns. Down 28-0 after the first quarter.
Down 35-7 before a Boz Fg with time expiring at the half.
Biggest deficit - 28 points

42 points to KC.
Only game of the last 5 playoff games in which we had a lead.
TJ Watt, 26 yd fumble return for a TD early 2nd quarter.
Then KC stomped....21-7 at the half, 35-7 by late 3rd.
Biggest deficit - 28 points

31 points to Buffalo. Down 14-0 after the first quarter.
21-0 with less than 2 minutes to the half.
Biggest deficit - 21 points

How teams start games is indictive of how teams studied, game planned, schemed, motivated, prepared, play called, etc....
It all starts long before kick-off. It starts with the Head Coach.
Combined 66-0 after one quarter of play.
No other coach survives this. "Tomlin is one of the best NFL coaches."

I have said it before, many times....may as well say it again.
The Steelers lose more games before kick off, than any team in football.

Combined to be down 122-47 at the half.
No other coach survives this. "Tomlin will get another job in 2 seconds."

Deficits of 27, 21, 28, 28 and 21.
No other coach survives this. "Tomlin is loved by the masses, media and non-Steeler fans."

In the last 5 playoff games, the Steelers had a lead for a total of 6 minutes of football, out of 300 minutes of football.
No other coach survives this. "3 coaches in 55 years"

What will the 2025 playoff game bring to this story.

Please let it end.

viewtopic.php?f=2&t=23888

This is the kind of info that needs to be published on firetomlin.com with an active petition and emailed to Art with the link

[langer]

Fichtner and Canada don't seem to be working in coaching...or maybe even working.

Kinda weird.

[LakecrestSteeler]

you said it perfectly in bold. That is what i expect happens, to save face, he looks rosy to the big business world / tv and bows out.

The only thing that stands in his way is his big ass ego. He figures he won a Super Bowl and been to another along with the media talking him up all the time. His big ego is going to prevent him from retiring thinking he's knows what he is doing, etc. I am sure he thought he was the next Vince Lombardi after the 2008 season. What was that story he told on America's Game about how he got out of bed to watch a cut up of all the picks and realized that no one was blocking on the pick returns. You could see him thinking he was the Erwin Rommel of the NFL suggesting to his players that they block more on interception returns. He was thinking they won the super bowl because of him. No they won because of Harrison dropping into pass coverage instead of rushing and Ben Roethlisberger and Holmes having an epic drive to save the game at the end. He's the Pittsburgh version of Barry Switzer.

If he was smart he would realize to get out now before he piles on some more mediocre seasons salting away his reputation as a "great coach"

This is sound logic…..however
I have done the math extrapolating his current win percentage and he can over take Shula in about 8-ish years.

That will come into play to block him from wanting to leave at some point I would think.

He will be going for NFL winningest coach of all time.

[gojira5150]

His best year was 2016 when the Steelers had Ben, Brown, Bell and Bryant. They had a great team that year and he couldn't do it. They got smoked in the AFC Championship game. I mean it wasn't even close. He could coach the chiefs right now and they would probably lose their first playoff game.

They didn't have Bryant in the 2016 AFCC game. Bryant was suspended for the entire 2016 season for Marijuana use. It really screwed the Steelers because they had a ton of injuries at WR that year. The Steelers started Cobi Hamilton opposite of AB in that AFCC game. Bryant might have made a difference in that game, but I doubt it- the Pats were moving the ball at will, the lacrosse player had 200 yards receiving. Belichick had Tomlin's number.

The only playoff game in which all of the "Killer Bs" played was the 2017 divisional game against the Jags where the offense scored 42 points but that wasn't enough for the vaunted Tomlin defense against the legendary Blake Bortles Jags. Tomlin flowed that up with the 2018 collapse where the Steelers went from 7-2-1 and the first seed to out of the playoffs, despite finally beating the Patriots. Tomlin should have been fired after 2018

He should have been fired after 2009

That was when it was apparent he was full of shit

I've always said it should have been 2016 after losing to Blake Effing Bortles. That was it for me

[RemoAZ]

Greatest 15 Mins of Mike Tomlin Truth

https://x.com/frankmikesmith/status/187 ... 247089234/

Hope his next one centers around Rooney

That was great. Thanks for sharing. We need a million reposts of this.

[W&M_Steeler]

They didn't have Bryant in the 2016 AFCC game. Bryant was suspended for the entire 2016 season for Marijuana use. It really screwed the Steelers because they had a ton of injuries at WR that year. The Steelers started Cobi Hamilton opposite of AB in that AFCC game. Bryant might have made a difference in that game, but I doubt it- the Pats were moving the ball at will, the lacrosse player had 200 yards receiving. Belichick had Tomlin's number.

The only playoff game in which all of the "Killer Bs" played was the 2017 divisional game against the Jags where the offense scored 42 points but that wasn't enough for the vaunted Tomlin defense against the legendary Blake Bortles Jags. Tomlin flowed that up with the 2018 collapse where the Steelers went from 7-2-1 and the first seed to out of the playoffs, despite finally beating the Patriots. Tomlin should have been fired after 2018

He should have been fired after 2009

That was when it was apparent he was full of shit

I've always said it should have been 2016 after losing to Blake Effing Bortles. That was it for me

That's understandable. That Jags playoff loss is the worst Steelers loss of my lifetime (I'm in my 40s). That loss was 2017, though, and I cut him a tiny bit of slack for the defensive collapse due to the heartwrenching loss of Shazier. When he followed up that horrific embarrassment with the 2018 collapse against a bunch of crappy teams to miss the playoffs, I was finally off the Tomlin train. That 2018 team should have been a Super Bowl contender. Missing the playoffs was unconscionable.

[DumlinBumlinStumlin]

Fichtner and Canada don't seem to be working in coaching...or maybe even working.

Kinda weird.

per the write ups and the videos

No coaching tree on assistants under tomlin either head coaching or parallel moves

[the-other-burg]

I began reading through another ‘Fire Tomlin’ thread. There are countless, but they all seem to carry a common format.

The original post is a reaction to the latest game and states an argument for finally ridding the team of our inept head coach.

The initial responses defend this position.

And then it veers off - usually changing the argument to a broader, or more specific problem than just Tomlin.

It used to be the OC or the DC or the GM. Now its a lot about the Rooney’s. Thats a distraction that serves no purpose right now.

How about for once, everyone acknowledges reality. A) Since the Rooneys arent going anywhere, ever, then B) its time to direct all ire at the head coach.

[cop1211]

The fire Tomlin threads will be going on for another 4 years, at least.
Just take it easy and laugh.

[Dan Smith--BYU]

If Art could go back in a time machine and fire Tomlin and hire Reid (for less) he still wouldn't do it.

Being a "champion" has a different meaning to him than you and me.

[jeemie]

The fire Tomlin threads will be going on for another 4 years, at least.
Just take it easy and laugh.

Yup...Penguins...Pirates...Steelers...nothing to look forward to in the foreseeable future.

[.Kodiak]

He should have been fired after 2009

That was when it was apparent he was full of shit

"Easing in" against a beat up, inexperienced team is still the most idiotic thing I've heard. Very possibly, even with the Mendenhall fumble, should have won that.

Love that Cowher had a very subtle jab on Ben's show. Cowher KNEW what that team had, what he left. Said almost verbatim "that team should have won MULTIPLE more championships". You know it, I know it, most people here know it, and Cowher knew it. Ben should have at least 3-4 rings. But Dumblin.

[Steeldrama]

He should have been fired after 2009

That was when it was apparent he was full of shit

You know it, I know it, most people here know it, and Cowher knew it. Ben should have at least 3-4 rings. But Dumblin.

Youuuu didn’t know it lol

You started a thread telling Ben to retire….4 years before he actually retired

[SteelPro]

He should have been fired after 2009

That was when it was apparent he was full of shit

"Easing in" against a beat up, inexperienced team is still the most idiotic thing I've heard. Very possibly, even with the Mendenhall fumble, should have won that.

Love that Cowher had a very subtle jab on Ben's show. Cowher KNEW what that team had, what he left. Said almost verbatim "that team should have won MULTIPLE more championships". You know it, I know it, most people here know it, and Cowher knew it. Ben should have at least 3-4 rings. But Dumblin.

I’m not defending Tomlin at all. But I will say if Cowher really felt that he should have stayed. And maybe he should have done a better job the year after winning the Super Bowl. I’d take Cowher any day over Tomlin, but putting him on a pedestal is really hypocritical given how much grief we all gave him once upon a time.

[SteelPro]

The fire Tomlin threads will be going on for another 4 years, at least.
Just take it easy and laugh.

Yup...Penguins...Pirates...Steelers...nothing to look forward to in the foreseeable future.

Hey now.. we have 2 or 3 years of Livvy in the foreseeable future. That will be fun.

[RemoAZ]

Jarrett Bailey
@JBaileyNFL
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Bill Cowher assistants that went on to become head coaches: 9

Mike Tomlin assistants that went on to become head coaches: 0

[DumlinBumlinStumlin]

He should have been fired after 2009

That was when it was apparent he was full of shit

"Easing in" against a beat up, inexperienced team is still the most idiotic thing I've heard. Very possibly, even with the Mendenhall fumble, should have won that.

Love that Cowher had a very subtle jab on Ben's show. Cowher KNEW what that team had, what he left. Said almost verbatim "that team should have won MULTIPLE more championships". You know it, I know it, most people here know it, and Cowher knew it. Ben should have at least 3-4 rings. But Dumblin.

I’m not defending Tomlin at all. But I will say if Cowher really felt that he should have stayed. And maybe he should have done a better job the year after winning the Super Bowl. I’d take Cowher any day over Tomlin, but putting him on a pedestal is really hypocritical given how much grief we all gave him once upon a time.

You do realize he retired due to his wife’s illness, remember?

[Obviously]

He should have been fired after 2009

That was when it was apparent he was full of shit

"Easing in" against a beat up, inexperienced team is still the most idiotic thing I've heard. Very possibly, even with the Mendenhall fumble, should have won that.

Love that Cowher had a very subtle jab on Ben's show. Cowher KNEW what that team had, what he left. Said almost verbatim "that team should have won MULTIPLE more championships". You know it, I know it, most people here know it, and Cowher knew it. Ben should have at least 3-4 rings. But Dumblin.

I’m not defending Tomlin at all. But I will say if Cowher really felt that he should have stayed. And maybe he should have done a better job the year after winning the Super Bowl. I’d take Cowher any day over Tomlin, but putting him on a pedestal is really hypocritical given how much grief we all gave him once upon a time.

Agreed. Many forget how Cowher sleepwalked through the 2006 season having rested on his 2005 laurels.