FIRE MIKE TOMLIN NOW!

[.Kodiak]

He should have been fired after 2009

That was when it was apparent he was full of shit

You know it, I know it, most people here know it, and Cowher knew it. Ben should have at least 3-4 rings. But Dumblin.

Youuuu didn’t know it lol

You started a thread telling Ben to retire….4 years before he actually retired

I made that comment after an incomplete pass on 4th and 1 because Ben was too scared to sneak it. Said he'd never win another championship if he was afraid of getting hit. Prescient is the word you're looking for.

Was turning the ball over in those playoff games like Josh Allen. But at least Allen will still run a sneak.

I keep asking you to remind me how many playoff game Ben won after I made that comment. Doesn't seem like you ever answer, though.

[Steeldrama]

The fire Tomlin threads will be going on for another 4 years, at least.
Just take it easy and laugh.

Yup...Penguins...Pirates...Steelers...nothing to look forward to in the foreseeable future.

Hey now.. we have 2 or 3 years of Livvy in the foreseeable future. That will be fun.

Fact

Go Skenes!
GOOOO LIVVVVVY!!!!!

[.Kodiak]

Agreed. Many forget how Cowher sleepwalked through the 2006 season having rested on his 2005 laurels.

You mean with a QB that went through a windshield in the offseason and then had an appendectomy in Wk1?

That team won 6 of it's last 8 once Ben shook off the cobwebs.

[SteelPro]

"Easing in" against a beat up, inexperienced team is still the most idiotic thing I've heard. Very possibly, even with the Mendenhall fumble, should have won that.

Love that Cowher had a very subtle jab on Ben's show. Cowher KNEW what that team had, what he left. Said almost verbatim "that team should have won MULTIPLE more championships". You know it, I know it, most people here know it, and Cowher knew it. Ben should have at least 3-4 rings. But Dumblin.

I’m not defending Tomlin at all. But I will say if Cowher really felt that he should have stayed. And maybe he should have done a better job the year after winning the Super Bowl. I’d take Cowher any day over Tomlin, but putting him on a pedestal is really hypocritical given how much grief we all gave him once upon a time.

You do realize he retired due to his wife’s illness, remember?

Not correct. She was not diagnosed with cancer until several years later. She died in 2010 only 5 months after being diagnosed. And in Cowher’s book which came out 3 years ago he said the reason he quit was this…

“I found myself reflecting on what we’d accomplished as an organization. In fifteen seasons in Pittsburgh, we made the playoffs ten times. We won eight division titles, played in six AFC Championship Games and two Super Bowls. We won a Super Bowl, the fifth in Steelers history. We got ‘one for the thumb.’ It was a great run…I’d been able to achieve many of the dreams I had growing up in Crafton.”

[DumlinBumlinStumlin]

I’m not defending Tomlin at all. But I will say if Cowher really felt that he should have stayed. And maybe he should have done a better job the year after winning the Super Bowl. I’d take Cowher any day over Tomlin, but putting him on a pedestal is really hypocritical given how much grief we all gave him once upon a time.

You do realize he retired due to his wife’s illness, remember?

Not correct. She was not diagnosed with cancer until several years later. She died in 2010 only 5 months after being diagnosed. And in Cowher’s book which came out 3 years ago he said the reason he quit was this…

“I found myself reflecting on what we’d accomplished as an organization. In fifteen seasons in Pittsburgh, we made the playoffs ten times. We won eight division titles, played in six AFC Championship Games and two Super Bowls. We won a Super Bowl, the fifth in Steelers history. We got ‘one for the thumb.’ It was a great run…I’d been able to achieve many of the dreams I had growing up in Crafton.”

You’re right. I had to go back and research. I seemed to remember it incorrectly. But reading in. Cowher said not only the cancer. She was experiencing early onset Alzheimer’s along with menopause.

[steelmann58]

Tomlin had how many years with Ben did Tomlin have Compared to Cowher. But the point is Tomlin shelf life is Over and time to move on.

[steelmann58]

Hopefully either one of those Crazy Owners like the Jets or Dallas goes hard after Tomlin.

[Obviously]

Agreed. Many forget how Cowher sleepwalked through the 2006 season having rested on his 2005 laurels.

You mean with a QB that went through a windshield in the offseason and then had an appendectomy in Wk1?

That team won 6 of it's last 8 once Ben shook off the cobwebs.

Cowher put Ben in too soon against Jacksonville in the 9-0 loss. It was apparent Ben was still suffering. Dumb fucking move by Cowher risking further injury to Ben and not putting a healthy Charlie Batch out there for a better chance to win the game. Yeah, that season.

[AirRescueFF]

https://x.com/Alex_Kozora/status/187237 ... mYhGw&s=19

[anpsteel]

He should have been fired after 2009

That was when it was apparent he was full of shit

"Easing in" against a beat up, inexperienced team is still the most idiotic thing I've heard. Very possibly, even with the Mendenhall fumble, should have won that.

Love that Cowher had a very subtle jab on Ben's show. Cowher KNEW what that team had, what he left. Said almost verbatim "that team should have won MULTIPLE more championships". You know it, I know it, most people here know it, and Cowher knew it. Ben should have at least 3-4 rings. But Dumblin.

I’m not defending Tomlin at all. But I will say if Cowher really felt that he should have stayed. And maybe he should have done a better job the year after winning the Super Bowl. I’d take Cowher any day over Tomlin, but putting him on a pedestal is really hypocritical given how much grief we all gave him once upon a time.

Bills wife was battling terminal cancer

He retired to be with her and his daughters

With that being said, Cowher, for all the positives, was growing stale too

His second half turtle ball was infuriating, and I think that loss in SB 30 made him more conservative in general


Edit I just saw the post above indicating that she was not diagnosed with cancer for another three years after he retired

I do specifically recall him retiring to be with his family, and I swear there was some health issues surrounding his wife as well

[DumlinBumlinStumlin]

He did say family reasons. The cancer thing was corrected but Bill said she was having other issues like early onset Alzheimer’s

[cyberlaz]

His best year was 2016 when the Steelers had Ben, Brown, Bell and Bryant. They had a great team that year and he couldn't do it. They got smoked in the AFC Championship game. I mean it wasn't even close. He could coach the chiefs right now and they would probably lose their first playoff game.

They didn't have Bryant in the 2016 AFCC game. Bryant was suspended for the entire 2016 season for Marijuana use. It really screwed the Steelers because they had a ton of injuries at WR that year. The Steelers started Cobi Hamilton opposite of AB in that AFCC game. Bryant might have made a difference in that game, but I doubt it- the Pats were moving the ball at will, the lacrosse player had 200 yards receiving. Belichick had Tomlin's number.

The only playoff game in which all of the "Killer Bs" played was the 2017 divisional game against the Jags where the offense scored 42 points but that wasn't enough for the vaunted Tomlin defense against the legendary Blake Bortles Jags. Tomlin flowed that up with the 2018 collapse where the Steelers went from 7-2-1 and the first seed to out of the playoffs, despite finally beating the Patriots. Tomlin should have been fired after 2018

Ah...thank you...mixing up my Tomlin playoff debacles. Can you blame me? There's so many...remember the Tebow one?

[DumlinBumlinStumlin]

Madden's Take - love him or hate him

https://triblive.com/sports/mark-madden ... -collapse/

This column will be all over the place. Because the Steelers are all over the place.

From 10-3 to 10-6.

From AFC North front-runner in line for a playoff home game to hitting the road for the wild-card round.

From “a legit Super Bowl contender that can beat anybody” to embarrassed and manhandled three times in a row by teams that are clearly superior.

The defense isn’t elite.

Russell Wilson’s Indian summer is over.

Quotes from the players stop just shy of finger-pointing.

The Steelers are masters of the surrender punt.

It’s a classic Steelers collapse on par with 2018, ’19 and ’20. (It’s hard to be worse than 2020: From 11-0 to losing five of their last six, including a home playoff loss to Cleveland.)

The citizens are experiencing lots of feelings and emotions. Even “Renegade” fell flat during the home loss to Kansas City on Christmas.

Nobody should be surprised. It’s a truth that’s been there all along hiding in plain sight. This is exactly what figured to happen.

The Steelers have a flawed roster.

The Steelers are poorly coached.

This is the fourth time in the past six years that the Steelers have lost three straight in December.

It’s the fifth time in the past seven years that the Steelers have lost three straight after Thanksgiving.

That’s because other teams improve over the course of a season. The Steelers don’t.

That’s because Mike Tomlin has no nuance to his coaching. The Steelers just show up, play like the Steelers and hope that’s good enough.

That’s because the Steelers have a coaching staff composed of stooges and yes-men. The last Tomlin underling who didn’t fit that description was Bruce Arians. The Steelers ran him off.

Tomlin doesn’t want to be challenged. He wants to sit alone in his Jacuzzi of authority and arrogance.

Tomlin’s mere adequacy is camouflaged by him dispensing quotable word salad and empty platitudes to a media he’s got thinly veiled contempt for, yet who nonetheless kneel before Zod. (But Tomlin loves celebrity media. They play ball. That’s your cue, Jay Glazer.)

Brian Flores was on the Steelers’ staff in 2022 as a senior defensive assistant and linebackers coach. Flores left after one season to become Minnesota’s defensive coordinator. The Vikings have the No. 3 scoring defense in the NFL. Flores is recognized as a top defensive mind.

The Steelers should have kept Flores and made him defensive coordinator. They instead stuck with Teryl Austin, who has never been accused of being a top defensive mind. #BuddySystem

But Tomlin runs the defense anyway, so what’s the difference?

The Steelers have a depth chart riddled with holes, so what’s the difference?

[Works At A Bank]

Madden's Take - love him or hate him

https://triblive.com/sports/mark-madden ... -collapse/

This column will be all over the place. Because the Steelers are all over the place.

From 10-3 to 10-6.

From AFC North front-runner in line for a playoff home game to hitting the road for the wild-card round.

From “a legit Super Bowl contender that can beat anybody” to embarrassed and manhandled three times in a row by teams that are clearly superior.

The defense isn’t elite.

Russell Wilson’s Indian summer is over.

Quotes from the players stop just shy of finger-pointing.

The Steelers are masters of the surrender punt.

It’s a classic Steelers collapse on par with 2018, ’19 and ’20. (It’s hard to be worse than 2020: From 11-0 to losing five of their last six, including a home playoff loss to Cleveland.)

The citizens are experiencing lots of feelings and emotions. Even “Renegade” fell flat during the home loss to Kansas City on Christmas.

Nobody should be surprised. It’s a truth that’s been there all along hiding in plain sight. This is exactly what figured to happen.

The Steelers have a flawed roster.

The Steelers are poorly coached.

This is the fourth time in the past six years that the Steelers have lost three straight in December.

It’s the fifth time in the past seven years that the Steelers have lost three straight after Thanksgiving.

That’s because other teams improve over the course of a season. The Steelers don’t.

That’s because Mike Tomlin has no nuance to his coaching. The Steelers just show up, play like the Steelers and hope that’s good enough.

That’s because the Steelers have a coaching staff composed of stooges and yes-men. The last Tomlin underling who didn’t fit that description was Bruce Arians. The Steelers ran him off.

Tomlin doesn’t want to be challenged. He wants to sit alone in his Jacuzzi of authority and arrogance.

Tomlin’s mere adequacy is camouflaged by him dispensing quotable word salad and empty platitudes to a media he’s got thinly veiled contempt for, yet who nonetheless kneel before Zod. (But Tomlin loves celebrity media. They play ball. That’s your cue, Jay Glazer.)

Brian Flores was on the Steelers’ staff in 2022 as a senior defensive assistant and linebackers coach. Flores left after one season to become Minnesota’s defensive coordinator. The Vikings have the No. 3 scoring defense in the NFL. Flores is recognized as a top defensive mind.

The Steelers should have kept Flores and made him defensive coordinator. They instead stuck with Teryl Austin, who has never been accused of being a top defensive mind. #BuddySystem

But Tomlin runs the defense anyway, so what’s the difference?

The Steelers have a depth chart riddled with holes, so what’s the difference?

I’m convinced Madden posts here or at least reads this board

[955876]

Madden's Take - love him or hate him

https://triblive.com/sports/mark-madden ... -collapse/

This column will be all over the place. Because the Steelers are all over the place.

From 10-3 to 10-6.

From AFC North front-runner in line for a playoff home game to hitting the road for the wild-card round.

From “a legit Super Bowl contender that can beat anybody” to embarrassed and manhandled three times in a row by teams that are clearly superior.

The defense isn’t elite.

Russell Wilson’s Indian summer is over.

Quotes from the players stop just shy of finger-pointing.

The Steelers are masters of the surrender punt.

It’s a classic Steelers collapse on par with 2018, ’19 and ’20. (It’s hard to be worse than 2020: From 11-0 to losing five of their last six, including a home playoff loss to Cleveland.)

The citizens are experiencing lots of feelings and emotions. Even “Renegade” fell flat during the home loss to Kansas City on Christmas.

Nobody should be surprised. It’s a truth that’s been there all along hiding in plain sight. This is exactly what figured to happen.

The Steelers have a flawed roster.

The Steelers are poorly coached.

This is the fourth time in the past six years that the Steelers have lost three straight in December.

It’s the fifth time in the past seven years that the Steelers have lost three straight after Thanksgiving.

That’s because other teams improve over the course of a season. The Steelers don’t.

That’s because Mike Tomlin has no nuance to his coaching. The Steelers just show up, play like the Steelers and hope that’s good enough.

That’s because the Steelers have a coaching staff composed of stooges and yes-men. The last Tomlin underling who didn’t fit that description was Bruce Arians. The Steelers ran him off.

Tomlin doesn’t want to be challenged. He wants to sit alone in his Jacuzzi of authority and arrogance.

Tomlin’s mere adequacy is camouflaged by him dispensing quotable word salad and empty platitudes to a media he’s got thinly veiled contempt for, yet who nonetheless kneel before Zod. (But Tomlin loves celebrity media. They play ball. That’s your cue, Jay Glazer.)

Brian Flores was on the Steelers’ staff in 2022 as a senior defensive assistant and linebackers coach. Flores left after one season to become Minnesota’s defensive coordinator. The Vikings have the No. 3 scoring defense in the NFL. Flores is recognized as a top defensive mind.

The Steelers should have kept Flores and made him defensive coordinator. They instead stuck with Teryl Austin, who has never been accused of being a top defensive mind. #BuddySystem

But Tomlin runs the defense anyway, so what’s the difference?

The Steelers have a depth chart riddled with holes, so what’s the difference?

You left out the best part….

Trading our 2020 1st round pick for Minkah even though anyone with at least one brain cell knew our season was over the moment Ben hurt his elbow.

Ah but NHALS must be salvaged at all cost.

We had a stretch where we won 4 in a row. Over that stretch Minkah had 4 INTs for 116 yards and a TD.

Average margin of victory over that stretch was 6.75 points. The spark that Minka gave us no doubt helped to win those games.

Yay we salvaged NHALS.

But we missed the opportunity to draft Justin Hebert or Jordan Love.

And now look at us. Still without a franchise QB despite burning a 1st on one and that “all-pro” safety has had his balls snipped by the Jibba Jabber.

I swear players only get worse under Jibbs.

[Gonzo]

Hey, man, you don't talk to the Coach. You listen to him. The man's enlarged my mind. He's a poet warrior in the classic sense. I mean sometimes he'll... uh... well, you'll say "hello" to him, right? And he'll just walk right by you. He won't even notice you. And suddenly he'll grab you, and he'll throw you in a corner, and he'll say, "Do you know that 'if' is the middle word in life? If you can keep your head when all about you are losing theirs and blaming it on you, if you can trust yourself when all men doubt you"... I mean I'm... no, I can't... I'm a little man, I'm a little man, he's... he's a great man! I should have been a pair of ragged claws scuttling across floors of silent seas...

OK Dennis Hopper

[AirRescueFF]

Since the bye, defense let offenses score TD's on 19 of 28 from the red zone- 68% conversion.

[anpsteel]

Since the bye, defense let offenses score TD's on 19 of 28 from the red zone- 68% conversion.

When you play turtle ball from the opening kickoff, hoping to keep the game close, to steal a win in the 4th quarter, your defense is almost never going to have an easy day.

That’s exacerbated if you don’t frequently rotate players.

So, come November/ December the defense is beyond frustrated and worn out


There is nothing surprising about this, as it happens every year

[langer]

A couple Yotubes.

Urinating Tree, great name, is a funny Youtube guy, and from PGH and a yinzer.

He livestreamed the game, pretty funny reaction to the second half disaster. Goes off the rails at 2:29. 2:51 when the 4th and 2 punt comes along.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J4PryTYnzWE

Like this guy's vids, he gets to the point and has some insight.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SHf67HswVEU

[Dan Smith--BYU]

https://www.youtube.com/shorts/XrbkEzZTycE

[DumlinBumlinStumlin]

Great clip

Def some shady side slurping going on at the Tomlin residence

[Dan Smith--BYU]

Odds of winning DIVISION now what the odds were of winning SB three weeks ago. Seven pct. now dropped to two pct.

[DumlinBumlinStumlin]

[CzechSteeler]

Have to be older version, DBS. Tomlin can´t say now "Ben is Ben". And, to be honest, didn´t hear "Rubber meets the road" quite a long time.

[DumlinBumlinStumlin]

It’s def an older one, had the nice boarder so I used it

[.Kodiak]

Ok. So when PIT doesn't stay slow, they finish bad.

Which makes Tomlin....Mr. October? COTMOO?

[DumlinBumlinStumlin]

Funny thread, they don't understand the situation with Rooneys, but funny none the less

https://saintsreport.com/threads/some-s ... ng.517716/

[Obviously]

[CzechSteeler]

Thanks, Obviously

[Professor Half Wit]

I'm checking in once every six weeks or so and while the titles change, the threads are exactly the same!

When will Steeler Fury learn to stop worrying and love the Tomlin?