Losing streak perspective

[swissvale72]

Okay, a lot is being made of this being the pittsburgh Steelers annual December swoon...the regularity with which they've lost 3 in a row after thanksgiving,,etc.

Compared to previous years though, was it ever the case that the 3 losses were to 3 of the arguably 5 best teams in the NFL?? Sure as fuck wasn't the case last year where they lost to 2 of the NFL's worst teams....at home...within a 5 day period. This year, losses have been to top competition, 2 of the 3 games away, both of those games absent the teams top offensive threat.

Now, that dude, George Pickens, has GOT to grow the fuck up, as stated by his coach. And it's NOT okay that his lack of effort prob resulted in a pick rather than a TD. Also concerned about the D pointing fingers as well.

But, get that shit turned around, beat the bengals next week, no easy task,,take care of Houston, and we could well be sitting here, 3 weeks from today, getting ready for the Steelers in the divisional playoffs in...arrowhead! And...I'll be thinking they can win that game. Lol

[Works At A Bank]

Hope springs eternal

[cyberlaz]

But, get that shit turned around, beat the bengals next week, no easy task,,take care of Houston, and we could well be sitting here, 3 weeks from today, getting ready for the Steelers in the divisional playoffs in...arrowhead! And...I'll be thinking they can win that game. Lol

I'll be right there with you thinking that we can beat the Chiefs in Arrowhead.

It's happened before but not in Arrowhead. Remember getting clobbered by the Manning led colts in the regular season and then beating them to advance to the AFC Championship game? Of course that was under Cowher...

[Deebo]

Okay, a lot is being made of this being the pittsburgh Steelers annual December swoon...the regularity with which they've lost 3 in a row after thanksgiving,,etc.

Compared to previous years though, was it ever the case that the 3 losses were to 3 of the arguably 5 best teams in the NFL?? Sure as fuck wasn't the case last year where they lost to 2 of the NFL's worst teams....at home...within a 5 day period. This year, losses have been to top competition, 2 of the 3 games away, both of those games absent the teams top offensive threat.

Now, that dude, George Pickens, has GOT to grow the fuck up, as stated by his coach. And it's NOT okay that his lack of effort prob resulted in a pick rather than a TD. Also concerned about the D pointing fingers as well.

But, get that shit turned around, beat the bengals next week, no easy task,,take care of Houston, and we could well be sitting here, 3 weeks from today, getting ready for the Steelers in the divisional playoffs in...arrowhead! And...I'll be thinking they can win that game. Lol

Most predicted we might lose all 3.

But it's HOW we lost. There's a big difference between losing on the final play to Mahommes (like he's done all year) vs. getting your doors blown off.
Moral victories exist. You can start to believe or think you are close if you play Baltimore and KC tight.

This team isn't even in the same stratosphere as those teams.

[DumlinBumlinStumlin]

But, get that shit turned around, beat the bengals next week, no easy task,,take care of Houston, and we could well be sitting here, 3 weeks from today, getting ready for the Steelers in the divisional playoffs in...arrowhead! And...I'll be thinking they can win that game. Lol

I'll be right there with you thinking that we can beat the Chiefs in Arrowhead.

It's happened before but not in Arrowhead. Remember getting clobbered by the Manning led colts in the regular season and then beating them to advance to the AFC Championship game? Of course that was under Cowher...

we are not beating Cincy, nor the First round opponent. Lets stop pretending about what we 'feel' they'll do.

Its another collapse and so be it. Get used to it, until people unplug it and stop going through the turnstiles

[tbsteel]

Okay, a lot is being made of this being the pittsburgh Steelers annual December swoon...the regularity with which they've lost 3 in a row after thanksgiving,,etc.

Compared to previous years though, was it ever the case that the 3 losses were to 3 of the arguably 5 best teams in the NFL?? Sure as fuck wasn't the case last year where they lost to 2 of the NFL's worst teams....at home...within a 5 day period. This year, losses have been to top competition, 2 of the 3 games away, both of those games absent the teams top offensive threat.

Now, that dude, George Pickens, has GOT to grow the fuck up, as stated by his coach. And it's NOT okay that his lack of effort prob resulted in a pick rather than a TD. Also concerned about the D pointing fingers as well.

But, get that shit turned around, beat the bengals next week, no easy task,,take care of Houston, and we could well be sitting here, 3 weeks from today, getting ready for the Steelers in the divisional playoffs in...arrowhead! And...I'll be thinking they can win that game. Lol

The problem isn't necessarily that we lost. The Eagles and Chiefs basically toyed with us. The Eagles called off the dogs to make it look better than the final score even indicated, and the Chiefs did their usual embarrassment of us.

Super Bowl contenders don't get annihilated like that in December.

You're a complete homer to the bitter end, so there's not going to be anything that will be said that will convince you otherwise, but this team has 0.0% chance of accomplishing shit.

[955876]

Remember getting clobbered by the Manning led colts in the regular season and then beating them to advance to the AFC Championship game? Of course that was under Cowher...

That’s because Cowher finally realized in that postseason he needed to deviate from his tendencies.

Something Jibbs has never done nor believes he needs to.

He’s the smartest guy in the room. He won a Super Bowl 17 years ago. His plan is solid. Players just aren’t executing it.

[langer]

If they win against Cincy, Coach will probably think he's got it figured out, then riding in to the playoffs with his newfound camera-kissing, chest-beating braggadocio not take the lesson he was just given and again have the team unprepared and discombobulated running around like 6 year olds just learning the game.

That's a likely future for this group.

Chase and Burrows might have a field day with how badly the D was against the pass. Stubborn jagoff Tomlin might even keep Sutton in the game and make no changes.

I despise making the same mistake over and over again. Coach is ok with it.

He has no incentive to not do anything other than what's been happening.

[swissvale72]

Okay, a lot is being made of this being the pittsburgh Steelers annual December swoon...the regularity with which they've lost 3 in a row after thanksgiving,,etc.

Compared to previous years though, was it ever the case that the 3 losses were to 3 of the arguably 5 best teams in the NFL?? Sure as fuck wasn't the case last year where they lost to 2 of the NFL's worst teams....at home...within a 5 day period. This year, losses have been to top competition, 2 of the 3 games away, both of those games absent the teams top offensive threat.

Now, that dude, George Pickens, has GOT to grow the fuck up, as stated by his coach. And it's NOT okay that his lack of effort prob resulted in a pick rather than a TD. Also concerned about the D pointing fingers as well.

But, get that shit turned around, beat the bengals next week, no easy task,,take care of Houston, and we could well be sitting here, 3 weeks from today, getting ready for the Steelers in the divisional playoffs in...arrowhead! And...I'll be thinking they can win that game. Lol

The problem isn't necessarily that we lost. The Eagles and Chiefs basically toyed with us. The Eagles called off the dogs to make it look better than the final score even indicated, and the Chiefs did their usual embarrassment of us.

Super Bowl contenders don't get annihilated like that in December.

You're a complete homer to the bitter end, so there's not going to be anything that will be said that will convince you otherwise, but this team has 0.0% chance of accomplishing shit.

Got it right about my rooting for Steelers to bitter end. Against eagles, we're down one score entering 4q, against ravens had tied the game late 3Q...only against chefs were they outta the game kind of early, and even then was 16-10 in 3Q...against ravens particularly, I could muster up some optimism going into baltimore ...

[Orangesteel]

Give it up, Swiss.

The bedwetting is warranted. This team is screwed.

[AirRescueFF]

If they win against Cincy, Coach will probably think he's got it figured out, then riding in to the playoffs with his newfound camera-kissing, chest-beating braggadocio not take the lesson he was just given and again have the team unprepared and discombobulated running around like 6 year olds just learning the game.

That's a likely future for this group.

Chase and Burrows might have a field day with how badly the D was against the pass. Stubborn jagoff Tomlin might even keep Sutton in the game and make no changes.

I despise making the same mistake over and over again. Coach is ok with it.

He has no incentive to not do anything other than what's been happening.

Because of no consequences.

Rooney needs to take away the coaches ping pong, pool foosball, and whatever else.


Championship.

[DumlinBumlinStumlin]

Remember getting clobbered by the Manning led colts in the regular season and then beating them to advance to the AFC Championship game? Of course that was under Cowher...

That’s because Cowher finally realized in that postseason he needed to deviate from his tendencies.

Something Jibbs has never done nor believes he needs to.

He’s the smartest guy in the room. He won a Super Bowl 17 years ago. His plan is solid. Players just aren’t executing it.

That's the sign of an egotistical sociopath, Tomlin is starting to remind me of one.

[Stillerz Bar]

Do I think that this team is going to turn things around? Probably not - the last 3 weeks have been ugly!!

That said, you just never know with this team.

When they were 2-6 a few years ago, no one thought that they'd save Tomlin's NHALS and many here were disappointed when they won 6 of their last 7 to get there. How they did that I have no idea but they did.

Even more amazingly is the 2005 season Swiss referred to. The Steelers embarrassing loss to the Colts was sandwiched in between losses to the Ravens & Bengals that were both also pretty ugly and ended with TJ Houshmandzadeh wiping is cleats with a Terrible Towel as we dropped several spots out of the playoffs. At that point we were all pretty sure Cowher had no answers but low and behold, Bettis trucked Urlacher in the next game and before you knew it Kino VO was taking out Carson Palmer's knee and a few weeks later Cowher handed the Lombardi to Dan Rooney.

I think we all agree that the One for the Thumb came because Cowher changed his tendencies when none of us thought he could. Similarly, no one, including me, thinks Tomlin can go out and try to win a game rather than playing to keep it close and pull things out at the end.

Who knows though - he claims to realize he can't keep doing the same thing and expecting different results. We've rarely seen that come to fruition but if there's any hope, it's in the fact that we actually won a shootout the last time we played Cincy.

I truly have no idea what to expect the next two weeks. I am only slightly hopeful that they'll win before next fall and I won't be surprised if they get obliterated the next 2 games but...... I'll still watch and hope that somehow they play smarter football and pull out a few wins.

[Steelperch]

They’ve lost 3 straight games in the last seven consecutive seasons. Longest streak in the NFL. 5 times it happened in December. Does it matter if it’s vs the best teams in the league or the 2 win Cardinals and Patriots of last year?

If you can’t see how badly Tomlin’s supposed crown jewel defense is routinely outschemed vs good offenses and every team they face in the playoffs, I don’t know what to tell you. Highest paid D in the league, some supposed highly respected defensive head coach, and they get boat raced in any game that matters. Nothing will change as long as he’s in charge. Lower your standards and cheer for NHALS or go nuts. Those are your options.

[955876]

That's the sign of an egotistical sociopath, Tomlin is starting to remind me of one.

Hard not to be when you’ve got your owner constantly sucking on one nut while the biased media sucks on the other.

Throw in that he surrounds himself with stupid “yes men” and it’s no wonder he walks around in his cool shades believing his shit doesn’t stink.

[Steelafan77]

If there were a hall of fame for imposter coaches Tomlin is first ballot.

Getting away with impersonating a nfl head coach for 13-14 years is a special talent requiring acknowledgment at the highest level.

[DumlinBumlinStumlin]

If there were a hall of fame for imposter coaches Tomlin is first ballot.

Getting away with impersonating a nfl head coach for 13-14 years is a special talent requiring acknowledgment at the highest level.

Hence the nick name Fraudlin !!

[swissvale72]

They’ve lost 3 straight games in the last seven consecutive seasons. Longest streak in the NFL. 5 times it happened in December. Does it matter if it’s vs the best teams in the league or the 2 win Cardinals and Patriots of last year?

If you can’t see how badly Tomlin’s supposed crown jewel defense is routinely outschemed vs good offenses and every team they face in the playoffs, I don’t know what to tell you. Highest paid D in the league, some supposed highly respected defensive head coach, and they get boat raced in any game that matters. Nothing will change as long as he’s in charge. Lower your standards and cheer for NHALS or go nuts. Those are your options.

Nooo....I do neither. My option is hoping to see my team play as deep into January as possible. And I'll convince myself they have decent chance to win. Like I really dont think they would win in KC, but week of that game I'll be trying to convince you asshats that they have a chance...as was stated, like v Indy in 05

[Works At A Bank]

They’ve lost 3 straight games in the last seven consecutive seasons. Longest streak in the NFL. 5 times it happened in December. Does it matter if it’s vs the best teams in the league or the 2 win Cardinals and Patriots of last year?

If you can’t see how badly Tomlin’s supposed crown jewel defense is routinely outschemed vs good offenses and every team they face in the playoffs, I don’t know what to tell you. Highest paid D in the league, some supposed highly respected defensive head coach, and they get boat raced in any game that matters. Nothing will change as long as he’s in charge. Lower your standards and cheer for NHALS or go nuts. Those are your options.

Nooo....I do neither. My option is hoping to see my team play as deep into January as possible. And I'll convince myself they have decent chance to win. Like I really dont think they would win in KC, but week of that game I'll be trying to convince you asshats that they have a chance...as was stated, like v Indy in 05

They won’t beat Cincy (prob get their asses kicked by 14+ points) and they won’t win on the road in the wildcard game no matter who they play. I appreciate the optimism but Tomlin the dinosaur will be outcoached, fuck up time management and will be standing on the sidelines with that bug eyed look on his face yet again. If I’m wrong I’ll be happy to eat that crow but Tomlin’s track record tells me I’m right.

[CKSteeler]

I'm tired of the 2005 comparisons. This team is nothing like the 2005 squad in terms of talent or circumstances. The '05 team had key injuries, mainly Roethlisberger. Had surgery on his knee and rushed back for that Colts game.

Also, Tomlin is incapable of learning. He's had these December skids damn near every year and nothing has ever changed. He isn't going to unleash his coordinators come January. His fingerprints will be all over whatever shitty schemes they trot out on Wild Card weekend when they get obliterated.

[DumlinBumlinStumlin]

They’ve lost 3 straight games in the last seven consecutive seasons. Longest streak in the NFL. 5 times it happened in December. Does it matter if it’s vs the best teams in the league or the 2 win Cardinals and Patriots of last year?

If you can’t see how badly Tomlin’s supposed crown jewel defense is routinely outschemed vs good offenses and every team they face in the playoffs, I don’t know what to tell you. Highest paid D in the league, some supposed highly respected defensive head coach, and they get boat raced in any game that matters. Nothing will change as long as he’s in charge. Lower your standards and cheer for NHALS or go nuts. Those are your options.

Nooo....I do neither. My option is hoping to see my team play as deep into January as possible. And I'll convince myself they have decent chance to win. Like I really dont think they would win in KC, but week of that game I'll be trying to convince you asshats that they have a chance...as was stated, like v Indy in 05

Perfect for you, and your foolish optimism

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cMOKamtpUA8

I found a picture of you, oh oh oh oh
What hijacked my world that night
To a place in the past
We've been cast out of? oh oh oh oh
Now we're back in the fight
We're back on the train
Oh, back on the chain gang

A circumstance beyond our control, oh oh oh oh
The phone, the tv and the news of the world
Got in the house like a pigeon from hell, oh oh oh oh
Threw sand in our eyes and descended like flies
Put us back on the train
Oh, back on the chain gang

The powers that be
That force us to live like we do
Bring me to my knees
When I see what they've done to you
But I'll die as I stand here today
Knowing that deep in my heart
They'll fall to ruin one day
For making us part

I found a picture of you, oh oh oh oh
Those were the happiest days of my life
Like a break in the battle was your part, oh oh oh oh
In the wretched life of a lonely heart
Now we're back on the train
Oh, back on the chain gang

[955876]

as was stated, like v Indy in 05

Except Jibba doesn’t have Cowher’s coaches to draw up that winning game plan nor Cowher’s players to execute it.

Cowher broke tendency and threw the ball early those playoffs.

Jibbs will sign off on handing the hall to our oldest and slowest “RB” in key situations after first featuring his son Najee on early downs.

[swissvale72]

They’ve lost 3 straight games in the last seven consecutive seasons. Longest streak in the NFL. 5 times it happened in December. Does it matter if it’s vs the best teams in the league or the 2 win Cardinals and Patriots of last year?

If you can’t see how badly Tomlin’s supposed crown jewel defense is routinely outschemed vs good offenses and every team they face in the playoffs, I don’t know what to tell you. Highest paid D in the league, some supposed highly respected defensive head coach, and they get boat raced in any game that matters. Nothing will change as long as he’s in charge. Lower your standards and cheer for NHALS or go nuts. Those are your options.

Nooo....I do neither. My option is hoping to see my team play as deep into January as possible. And I'll convince myself they have decent chance to win. Like I really dont think they would win in KC, but week of that game I'll be trying to convince you asshats that they have a chance...as was stated, like v Indy in 05

Perfect for you, and your foolish optimism

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cMOKamtpUA8

I found a picture of you, oh oh oh oh
What hijacked my world that night
To a place in the past
We've been cast out of? oh oh oh oh
Now we're back in the fight
We're back on the train
Oh, back on the chain gang

A circumstance beyond our control, oh oh oh oh
The phone, the tv and the news of the world
Got in the house like a pigeon from hell, oh oh oh oh
Threw sand in our eyes and descended like flies
Put us back on the train
Oh, back on the chain gang

The powers that be
That force us to live like we do
Bring me to my knees
When I see what they've done to you
But I'll die as I stand here today
Knowing that deep in my heart
They'll fall to ruin one day
For making us part

I found a picture of you, oh oh oh oh
Those were the happiest days of my life
Like a break in the battle was your part, oh oh oh oh
In the wretched life of a lonely heart
Now we're back on the train
Oh, back on the chain gang

"Foolish optimism," ok...believe what i said was that I want to see my team's season extended as long as possible. If you'd rather be totally negative and wallow in despair, totally up to you.

[swissvale72]

as was stated, like v Indy in 05

Except Jibba doesn’t have Cowher’s coaches to draw up that winning game plan nor Cowher’s players to execute it.

Cowher broke tendency and threw the ball early those playoffs.

Jibbs will sign off on handing the hall to our oldest and slowest “RB” in key situations after first featuring his son Najee on early downs.

We'll see...not unreasonable to think that Steelers place at #4 seed even if losing to cinci, and do you think they're incapable of beating Houston?

[franco32]

If all the stars align and Tomlin has horseshoes up his ass, I could see us MAYBE beating the Bengals and potentially squeaking by the Texans (although the more likely scenario is that we embarrass ourselves as usual).

The big question though is what would we gain from it? We'd go to KC or Buffalo to be massively outcoached and curbstomped. Oh joy. Then we can pick later in a draft where we badly need a QB and fill other holes.

[swissvale72]

If all the stars align and Tomlin has horseshoes up his ass, I could see us MAYBE beating the Bengals and potentially squeaking by the Texans (although the more likely scenario is that we embarrass ourselves as usual).

The big question though is what would we gain from it? We'd go to KC or Buffalo to be massively outcoached and curbstomped. Oh joy. Then we can pick later in a draft where we badly need a QB and fill other holes.

So you would rather see Steelers exit playoffs first round in order to draft earlier?

[DumlinBumlinStumlin]

Nooo....I do neither. My option is hoping to see my team play as deep into January as possible. And I'll convince myself they have decent chance to win. Like I really dont think they would win in KC, but week of that game I'll be trying to convince you asshats that they have a chance...as was stated, like v Indy in 05

Perfect for you, and your foolish optimism

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cMOKamtpUA8

I found a picture of you, oh oh oh oh
What hijacked my world that night
To a place in the past
We've been cast out of? oh oh oh oh
Now we're back in the fight
We're back on the train
Oh, back on the chain gang

A circumstance beyond our control, oh oh oh oh
The phone, the tv and the news of the world
Got in the house like a pigeon from hell, oh oh oh oh
Threw sand in our eyes and descended like flies
Put us back on the train
Oh, back on the chain gang

The powers that be
That force us to live like we do
Bring me to my knees
When I see what they've done to you
But I'll die as I stand here today
Knowing that deep in my heart
They'll fall to ruin one day
For making us part

I found a picture of you, oh oh oh oh
Those were the happiest days of my life
Like a break in the battle was your part, oh oh oh oh
In the wretched life of a lonely heart
Now we're back on the train
Oh, back on the chain gang

"Foolish optimism," ok...believe what i said was that I want to see my team's season extended as long as possible. If you'd rather be totally negative and wallow in despair, totally up to you.

I’m not wallowing in dispair Swiss, just I accept the failure and won’t pretend they they will succeed

This guy is a complete fraud You need to go learn about fraudulent things. You live with too much fantasy in your brain

[Works At A Bank]

If all the stars align and Tomlin has horseshoes up his ass, I could see us MAYBE beating the Bengals and potentially squeaking by the Texans (although the more likely scenario is that we embarrass ourselves as usual).

The big question though is what would we gain from it? We'd go to KC or Buffalo to be massively outcoached and curbstomped. Oh joy. Then we can pick later in a draft where we badly need a QB and fill other holes.

So you would rather see Steelers exit playoffs first round in order to draft earlier?

I think he was just making an observation. Not that he wanted them to lose in the first round due to a slightly better pick. I doubt anyone on this board has any faith that Tomlin & Co. can draft talent and coach them up.

[swissvale72]

Perfect for you, and your foolish optimism

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cMOKamtpUA8

"Foolish optimism," ok...believe what i said was that I want to see my team's season extended as long as possible. If you'd rather be totally negative and wallow in despair, totally up to you.

I’m not wallowing in dispair Swiss, just I accept the failure and won’t pretend they they will succeed

This guy is a complete fraud You need to go learn about fraudulent things. You live with too much fantasy in your brain

Look...I've been calling out Tomlin as a gameday dumbfuck and advocating for his ouster for over a decade. At the same time, I've also said, I believe accurately, that his job security rivals the pope's, so I'm not going to root for losses, thinking that will get Tomlin fired. It's this simple. I look forward to watching the Steelers play in January. I'm going to root for them to win so that their season continues, and perhaps delude myself, admittedly, into thinking that will happen

[anpsteel]

They’ve lost 3 straight games in the last seven consecutive seasons. Longest streak in the NFL. 5 times it happened in December. Does it matter if it’s vs the best teams in the league or the 2 win Cardinals and Patriots of last year?

If you can’t see how badly Tomlin’s supposed crown jewel defense is routinely outschemed vs good offenses and every team they face in the playoffs, I don’t know what to tell you. Highest paid D in the league, some supposed highly respected defensive head coach, and they get boat raced in any game that matters. Nothing will change as long as he’s in charge. Lower your standards and cheer for NHALS or go nuts. Those are your options.

Nooo....I do neither. My option is hoping to see my team play as deep into January as possible. And I'll convince myself they have decent chance to win. Like I really dont think they would win in KC, but week of that game I'll be trying to convince you asshats that they have a chance...as was stated, like v Indy in 05

They won’t beat Cincy (prob get their asses kicked by 14+ points) and they won’t win on the road in the wildcard game no matter who they play. I appreciate the optimism but Tomlin the dinosaur will be outcoached, fuck up time management and will be standing on the sidelines with that bug eyed look on his face yet again. If I’m wrong I’ll be happy to eat that crow but Tomlin’s track record tells me I’m right.

For the team to win in the playoffs, it would require Tomlin to start the game with a unique game plan and scheme on both sides of the ball

A game plan tailored specifically to the opponent’s weaknesses, and not the standard do what we do

Given that I have yet to see him do this, particularly on defense, I have zero expectations of them winning a playoff game.