So IF. And it's a big if. Tomlin leaves at some point and really doesn't accomplish anything more. How will he be viewed

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So IF. And it's a big if. Tomlin leaves at some point and really doesn't accomplish anything more. How will he be viewed

Post by rooneytunes » Fri Dec 27, 2024 11:30 pm

By Steelers fans in the future?

I mean he has an accomplished career NFL history wise. He will be in the HOF.

But in 2033 I don't want fans booing him at like a game celebrating a reunion of the 2008 team or something like that. He wouldn't deserve that. But I think it happens.

It sux because he seems like a wonderful man. Great husband, Father, etc.... Embraced the community.

It's just this thing that is now hovering over him.

Wish things were different. Guess only winning will cure it. We will see what happens.


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Post by Dan Smith--BYU » Sat Dec 28, 2024 1:24 am

I just don't get the Hall of Fame argument.

AC Green in hoops had a high floor and was an above average talent who played forever.

He is never in that discussion.
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Post by rooneytunes » Sat Dec 28, 2024 2:46 am

Dan Smith--BYU wrote:
Sat Dec 28, 2024 1:24 am
I just don't get the Hall of Fame argument.

AC Green in hoops had a high floor and was an above average talent who played forever.

He is never in that discussion.
If Cowher is in he's in
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Post by Jtf » Sat Dec 28, 2024 3:23 am

rooneytunes wrote:
Fri Dec 27, 2024 11:30 pm
By Steelers fans in the future?

I mean he has an accomplished career NFL history wise. He will be in the HOF.

But in 2033 I don't want fans booing him at like a game celebrating a reunion of the 2008 team or something like that. He wouldn't deserve that. But I think it happens.

It sux because he seems like a wonderful man. Great husband, Father, etc.... Embraced the community.

It's just this thing that is now hovering over him.

Wish things were different. Guess only winning will cure it. We will see what happens.
Just like don Shula. Actually they are very similar if you really look at their records and non losing seasons and making playoffs

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Post by Ice » Sat Dec 28, 2024 3:23 am

rooneytunes wrote:
Sat Dec 28, 2024 2:46 am
Dan Smith--BYU wrote:
Sat Dec 28, 2024 1:24 am
I just don't get the Hall of Fame argument.

AC Green in hoops had a high floor and was an above average talent who played forever.

He is never in that discussion.
If Cowher is in he's in
I feel like I remember Cowher more fondly for struggling, then finally making it to the mountaintop. Tomlin's career has basically been the opposite.
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Post by Works At A Bank » Sat Dec 28, 2024 3:42 am

Does Mike McCarthy get into the HOF? He and Tomlin have almost identical stats. McCarthy is .500 in the playoffs with an 11-11 record while NHALS is below .500 at 8-10

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Post by Steelafan77 » Sat Dec 28, 2024 5:32 am

Remembered as a mediocre coach that joined up during a pinnacle [Era] run by a Steelers team, FO and coaching staff he inherited.

So if he makes the hof…, it’s as a coattail riding middle of the road wordsmiff coach/cheerleader that far out stayed his limited coaching talent.

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Post by CKSteeler » Sat Dec 28, 2024 6:31 am

Works At A Bank wrote:
Sat Dec 28, 2024 3:42 am
Does Mike McCarthy get into the HOF? He and Tomlin have almost identical stats. McCarthy is .500 in the playoffs with an 11-11 record while NHALS is below .500 at 8-10
You know why Tomlin gets in and McCarthy doesn't. You know why.

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Post by Works At A Bank » Sat Dec 28, 2024 12:42 pm

CKSteeler wrote:
Sat Dec 28, 2024 6:31 am
Works At A Bank wrote:
Sat Dec 28, 2024 3:42 am
Does Mike McCarthy get into the HOF? He and Tomlin have almost identical stats. McCarthy is .500 in the playoffs with an 11-11 record while NHALS is below .500 at 8-10
You know why Tomlin gets in and McCarthy doesn't. You know why.
The media ballwashing? You don’t see talking heads fellating McCarthy.

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Post by anpsteel » Sat Dec 28, 2024 2:28 pm

rooneytunes wrote:
Sat Dec 28, 2024 2:46 am
Dan Smith--BYU wrote:
Sat Dec 28, 2024 1:24 am
I just don't get the Hall of Fame argument.

AC Green in hoops had a high floor and was an above average talent who played forever.

He is never in that discussion.
If Cowher is in he's in
That’s an absolutely terrible argument.

On no level is Tomlin an equal coach, despite his overall record

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Post by langer » Sat Dec 28, 2024 2:56 pm

People at the NFL love to CREATE HISTORY with HISTORICAL EVENTS and have procedures in place to maximize dollars they spend on creating HISTORICAL DOCUMENTARIES and the ad campaigns they run on both broadcast and social.

Coach Mike is a HISTORICAL FIGURE in HISTORY.
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Post by Dan Smith--BYU » Sat Dec 28, 2024 3:55 pm

:Coach Mike is a HISTORICAL FIGURE in HISTORY"

So is Neville Chamberlain.

Who also liked to surrender punt.
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Post by gojira5150 » Sat Dec 28, 2024 9:25 pm

Dan Smith--BYU wrote:
Sat Dec 28, 2024 1:24 am
I just don't get the Hall of Fame argument.

AC Green in hoops had a high floor and was an above average talent who played forever.

He is never in that discussion.
LOL. How do you know about AC Green? I've been a Lakers since since '79 and most wouldn't know him if they saw him. He was a Damn good component for those Championship teams. Did the dirty work like Clark Kent (Rambis). I sure HATE what the NBA turned into. Can't wait for LeFraud to be gone.

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