FIRE MIKE TOMLIN NOW!

[Deebo]

For everyone still trying to scapegoat Austin:

From PPG Jason Mackey:
"If they decide to keep defensive coordinator Teryl Austin, or even if they replace him, it needs to be that person’s group. Not Mike Tomlin calling the plays or devising schemes."

I'm not trying to scapegoat Austin.
But that would be Tomlin's plan

Everyone knows it's Tomlin's defense and always has been since Lebeau left.

[langer]

If the D is Tomlin's but in other cases he's hands off, then is he really in charge of it?

Could this team be a gigantic clusterfuck behind the curtain?

I'm thinking yes.

[Deebo]

If the D is Tomlin's but in other cases he's hands off, then is he really in charge of it?

Could this team be a gigantic clusterfuck behind the curtain?

I'm thinking yes.

See this is a big part of the charade.

When things go well, it's Tomlin's doing.
When they don't go well he's got a ton of excuses at the ready:

- players didn't execute
-players aren't talented enough
-short week
-injuries

The bullshit goes on into infinity.

[jeemie]

Well well- even Rich Eisen is warming up to the idea of Tomlin trying to "find his Andy Reid spot".

[DumlinBumlinStumlin]

Well well- even Rich Eisen is warming up to the idea of Tomlin trying to "find his Andy Reid spot".

he was spot red when his cohort Kyle Brandt on the show blistered Tomlin. Looked like he wanted to have Brandt fired, something changed then - probably the non pretending look at reality/game results and horrid stats

[.Kodiak]

Of course, that’s exactly what they would say if their aim was to get compensation for him moving. If you declare his job is in trouble, then why would anyone pay? Just wait for him to be out, maybe.

In the remote scenario where they do part ways, they’d want to have compensation worked out ahead of time so they could announce both things together and take the sting out of losing Tomlin as far as the sheep fans are concerned.

Or we could play 4D chess....Float rumors that a trade would be considered for Tomlin. Then all the asshat casual fans of shitty teams would be demanding their owner get it done. And then you have a bidding war, because more than a few owners can't take the heat for having a chance to trade for the Legendary Mike Tomlin and not making a hard play.

[AirRescueFF]

https://x.com/937theFan/status/18788838 ... MUUtw&s=19

[DumlinBumlinStumlin]

https://x.com/937theFan/status/18788838 ... MUUtw&s=19

Great summation by all the in air teams

[StillerDownSouth]

Well well- even Rich Eisen is warming up to the idea of Tomlin trying to "find his Andy Reid spot".

Just watched that, here's the clip.

https://x.com/Steelersdepot/status/1878938374054301863

[DumlinBumlinStumlin]

Well well- even Rich Eisen is warming up to the idea of Tomlin trying to "find his Andy Reid spot".

Just watched that, here's the clip.

https://x.com/Steelersdepot/status/1878938374054301863

Thanks. I’m floored. Brandt must have talked sense in. But looks like Steelernation put out the word for him to stop carrying water

[Dan Smith--BYU]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HSEnW80AvMw

Whitlock

[DumlinBumlinStumlin]

Breath of reality and fresh air

Whitlock disposes of the racism/victim angle when it comes for Jerrod Mayo's prepositioning as Pats coach before they removed belichicheat

Tomlin's body of work suggests no one can accuse the Steelers for the dirty word.

[jeemie]

Cowher says the manner in which the Steelers lost suggests big changes are needed.

Orlovsky says the Steelers' continued lack of attention to detail and sloppy play requires big changes to fix...but they shouldn't get carried away and let Tomlin go.

So let me get this straight...these guys think the Steelers need a big shakeup in their culture and philosophy, but you think they should keep the guy who had a big hand in building that culture and philosophy, and has shown no inclination nor ability to bring about big changes?

How do they think that will successfully work out, exactly? A guy who is not a change agent will make big changes, and do it well?

Just blows my mind that some of these guys can't take the next logical step...if you want big changes to be implemented successfully, you have to change the guys out who are responsible for establishing the old ways that you now think need to be changed!

[DumlinBumlinStumlin]

Orlavsky is another one of the Tomlin buffers (back channels) media buddies

[franco32]

Cowher says the manner in which the Steelers lost suggests big changes are needed.

Orlovsky says the Steelers' continued lack of attention to detail and sloppy play requires big changes to fix...but they shouldn't get carried away and let Tomlin go.

So let me get this straight...these guys think the Steelers need a big shakeup in their culture and philosophy, but you think they should keep the guy who had a big hand in building that culture and philosophy, and has shown no inclination nor ability to bring about big changes?

How do they think that will successfully work out, exactly? A guy who is not a change agent will make big changes, and do it well?

Just blows my mind that some of these guys can't take the next logical step...if you want big changes to be implemented successfully, you have to change the guys out who are responsible for establishing the old ways that you now think need to be changed!

Dan O and others are just trying to be politically correct. These are the same guys that wanted McCarthy packing his bags years ago.

[DumlinBumlinStumlin]

Stephen A also on the bus for Tomlin's outster

https://x.com/Blitz_Burgh/status/187884 ... comings%2F

[DumlinBumlinStumlin]

Joe Starkey is asking the question is Art2 the right Rooney to pilot the Steelers going forward. Great, let's get that attack angle going

[anpsteel]

Effing Ryan Clark now protecting his buddy

Saying, you could end up like Jacksonville, if you fire Tomlin.

What a bunch of simps

[DumlinBumlinStumlin]

Effing Ryan Clark now protecting his buddy

Saying, you could end up like Jacksonville, if you fire Tomlin.

What a bunch of simps

He will be the last defender, otherwise no more insider info

We can ignore Ryan Clark

[DumlinBumlinStumlin]

Tomlin very standoffish to media asking about 'Opinions' around all aspects of the team. Deflects, but hasn't taken any blame of all the warts

[Steelperch]

Tomlin wants to blame everything on QB mobility. Mother fucker got boat raced in the playoffs by immobile Brady, Mayfield, and Bortles. Burrow twice in the regular season this year as well.

I would anticipate him moving forward with Fields from his thoughts in the presser. At least the media hit him with some tough questions, especially the woman reporter. Anyone know who she is?

[AirRescueFF]

https://x.com/TommyJaggi/status/1878799 ... soxlg&s=19

[W&M_Steeler]

https://x.com/TommyJaggi/status/1878799 ... soxlg&s=19

That Stat is so ugly. Only 3 playoff wins and 1 AFCC appearance during the 14 season stretch of 2011-2024, despite having a loaded offense and Hall of Fame QB for half that stretch. Most teams in the league have done as well or better than that during that period.

For comparison, in the preceding 14 season period (1997-2010), the Steelers won 13 playoff games, made the AFCC 6 times, made 3 Super Bowls, and won 2. But as Cowher's coaches and players retired or left, the team steadily deteriorated into what we have today.

[anpsteel]

https://x.com/TommyJaggi/status/1878799 ... soxlg&s=19

That Stat is so ugly. Only 3 playoff wins and 1 AFCC appearance during the 14 season stretch of 2011-2024, despite having a loaded offense and Hall of Fame QB for half that stretch. Most teams in the league have done as well or better than that during that period.

For comparison, in the preceding 14 season period (1997-2010), the Steelers won 13 playoff games, made the AFCC 6 times, made 3 Super Bowls, and won 2. But as Cowher's coaches and players retired or left, the team steadily deteriorated into what we have today.

Don't forget, that includes the completely loaded Killer Bs teams.

[W&M_Steeler]

https://x.com/TommyJaggi/status/1878799 ... soxlg&s=19

That Stat is so ugly. Only 3 playoff wins and 1 AFCC appearance during the 14 season stretch of 2011-2024, despite having a loaded offense and Hall of Fame QB for half that stretch. Most teams in the league have done as well or better than that during that period.

For comparison, in the preceding 14 season period (1997-2010), the Steelers won 13 playoff games, made the AFCC 6 times, made 3 Super Bowls, and won 2. But as Cowher's coaches and players retired or left, the team steadily deteriorated into what we have today.

Don't forget, that includes the completely loaded Killer Bs teams.

Definitely. Turns out the Steelers should have kept Arians and let Tomlin walk during that Arians "retirement" dispute. Arians won a Super Bowl and COTY twice since leaving. I bet Arians and Reid and probably a dozen other coaches could have won at least 1 Super Bowl with the 2010s Killer Bs teams. Tomlin squandered them because he's an alleged defensive coach who isn't great at offense or defense.

[the-other-burg]

Cowher says the manner in which the Steelers lost suggests big changes are needed.

Orlovsky says the Steelers' continued lack of attention to detail and sloppy play requires big changes to fix...but they shouldn't get carried away and let Tomlin go.

So let me get this straight...these guys think the Steelers need a big shakeup in their culture and philosophy, but you think they should keep the guy who had a big hand in building that culture and philosophy, and has shown no inclination nor ability to bring about big changes?

How do they think that will successfully work out, exactly? A guy who is not a change agent will make big changes, and do it well?

Just blows my mind that some of these guys can't take the next logical step...if you want big changes to be implemented successfully, you have to change the guys out who are responsible for establishing the old ways that you now think need to be changed!

Theres a big difference between what people think, and what they’re willing to say on TV. This is still probably viewed as a landmine for many who’d rather have you read between the lines than say something that gets then cancelled.

[the-other-burg]

Effing Ryan Clark now protecting his buddy

Saying, you could end up like Jacksonville, if you fire Tomlin.

What a bunch of simps

An argument like this comes from the mind of a fool.

[jeemie]

We should shut this thread and the email spam thread down now.

Asked about the trade rumors, Tomlin said in his arrogant Tomlin way "save your time".

He said it in a way a person who knows his job is completely safe and he has all the leverage.

If Tomlin had even an inkling that he was on the hot seat, he would have handled that question with a lot more humility.

He's going nowhere.

You know it.
I know it.
We all know it.

[langer]

I'm glad we at least have the expectation set, the goalpost where it always has been, the drunk rich kid running the show, the bloviating blowhard moron running the team full of shitty players.

There's no optimism, which is ok.

[jebrick]

Bomani Jones has a take that could have been written by almost anyone on this site but he does keep it real.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o7ne_s6yf9E