FIRE MIKE TOMLIN NOW!

[W&M_Steeler]

Bomani Jones has a take that could have been written by almost anyone on this site but he does keep it real.

I thought he went a little too easy on Tomlin. First of all, he pretends that the Steelers had bad teams in 2017 and 2018 when those teams had the talent to be Super Bowl contenders. Second, he pretends like getting a QB niw would solve Tomlin's problems despite the fact that Tomlin wasted a top-tier offense and HoF QB throughout the 2010s. Tomlin is a defensive coach whose problem is his defense falls apart late in the season. He has already proven he can't win with an offense led team. Tomlin wants his Trent Dilfer so he can lead a modern version of the 2000 Ravens to glory.

I did like his comparison between Tomlin and Schottenheimer, and I agree that the best time to get rid of Tomlin would have been a decade or so ago.

[the-other-burg]

Bomani Jones has a take that could have been written by almost anyone on this site but he does keep it real.

I thought he went a little too easy on Tomlin. First of all, he pretends that the Steelers had bad teams in 2017 and 2018 when those teams had the talent to be Super Bowl contenders. Second, he pretends like getting a QB niw would solve Tomlin's problems despite the fact that Tomlin wasted a top-tier offense and HoF QB throughout the 2010s. Tomlin is a defensive coach whose problem is his defense falls apart late in the season. He has already proven he can't win with an offense led team. Tomlin wants his Trent Dilfer so he can lead a modern version of the 2000 Ravens to glory.

I did like his comparison between Tomlin and Schottenheimer, and I agree that the best time to get rid of Tomlin would have been a decade or so ago.

Its so frustrating to be on the side of folks (many here) that have been saying for a decade that Tomlin would never get us to another championship, and that he would waste the career of a HOF QB. And for the exact reasons that now everybody finally sees for themselves.

But what the fuck do we know, I mean, we’re just a bunch of temperamental erratic fans that overreact to every loss.

[AirRescueFF]

It's easy to point out everything against him because he stupidly shat out unnecessarily complicated word salad for his entire career, but routinely gets burned by those very words. Acts don't change; results don't change.

Rooney owns this Titanic, but let's Captain Oblivious chart the same course, just different crew.

[steelmann58]

Art keeping him means he not interested in getting #7

[langer]

The way things used to be, before the rot set in.

https://x.com/matthewluciow92/status/18 ... 2709340191

[Havoc]

Madden's Take - love him or hate him

https://triblive.com/sports/mark-madden ... -collapse/

This column will be all over the place. Because the Steelers are all over the place.

From 10-3 to 10-6.

From AFC North front-runner in line for a playoff home game to hitting the road for the wild-card round.

From “a legit Super Bowl contender that can beat anybody” to embarrassed and manhandled three times in a row by teams that are clearly superior.

The defense isn’t elite.

Russell Wilson’s Indian summer is over.

Quotes from the players stop just shy of finger-pointing.

The Steelers are masters of the surrender punt.

It’s a classic Steelers collapse on par with 2018, ’19 and ’20. (It’s hard to be worse than 2020: From 11-0 to losing five of their last six, including a home playoff loss to Cleveland.)

The citizens are experiencing lots of feelings and emotions. Even “Renegade” fell flat during the home loss to Kansas City on Christmas.

Nobody should be surprised. It’s a truth that’s been there all along hiding in plain sight. This is exactly what figured to happen.

The Steelers have a flawed roster.

The Steelers are poorly coached.

This is the fourth time in the past six years that the Steelers have lost three straight in December.

It’s the fifth time in the past seven years that the Steelers have lost three straight after Thanksgiving.

That’s because other teams improve over the course of a season. The Steelers don’t.

That’s because Mike Tomlin has no nuance to his coaching. The Steelers just show up, play like the Steelers and hope that’s good enough.

That’s because the Steelers have a coaching staff composed of stooges and yes-men. The last Tomlin underling who didn’t fit that description was Bruce Arians. The Steelers ran him off.

Tomlin doesn’t want to be challenged. He wants to sit alone in his Jacuzzi of authority and arrogance.

Tomlin’s mere adequacy is camouflaged by him dispensing quotable word salad and empty platitudes to a media he’s got thinly veiled contempt for, yet who nonetheless kneel before Zod. (But Tomlin loves celebrity media. They play ball. That’s your cue, Jay Glazer.)

Brian Flores was on the Steelers’ staff in 2022 as a senior defensive assistant and linebackers coach. Flores left after one season to become Minnesota’s defensive coordinator. The Vikings have the No. 3 scoring defense in the NFL. Flores is recognized as a top defensive mind.

The Steelers should have kept Flores and made him defensive coordinator. They instead stuck with Teryl Austin, who has never been accused of being a top defensive mind. #BuddySystem

But Tomlin runs the defense anyway, so what’s the difference?

The Steelers have a depth chart riddled with holes, so what’s the difference?

You left out the best part….

Trading our 2020 1st round pick for Minkah even though anyone with at least one brain cell knew our season was over the moment Ben hurt his elbow.

Ah but NHALS must be salvaged at all cost.

We had a stretch where we won 4 in a row. Over that stretch Minkah had 4 INTs for 116 yards and a TD.

Average margin of victory over that stretch was 6.75 points. The spark that Minka gave us no doubt helped to win those games.

Yay we salvaged NHALS.

But we missed the opportunity to draft Justin Hebert or Jordan Love.

And now look at us. Still without a franchise QB despite burning a 1st on one and that “all-pro” safety has had his balls snipped by the Jibba Jabber.

I swear players only get worse under Jibbs.

Colbert saved NHALS

That team was on the road to a losing record without the Minkah trade.

[Deebo]

The way things used to be, before the rot set in.

https://x.com/matthewluciow92/status/18 ... 2709340191

Biggest difference between Tomlin and Cowher? Cowher knew he wasn't the smartest X's and O's dude in the room. But what made him wise was to surround himself with those that were.

That's why Cowher will be the superior coach

[langer]

Ben throwing a little shade towards either Coach or Art Smith for being two-faced coward jagoffs.

https://x.com/matthewluciow92/status/18 ... 6516822265

[steelmann58]

He right

[RemoAZ]

The way things used to be, before the rot set in.

https://x.com/matthewluciow92/status/18 ... 2709340191

Biggest difference between Tomlin and Cowher? Cowher knew he wasn't the smartest X's and O's dude in the room. But what made him wise was to surround himself with those that were.

That's why Cowher will be the superior coach

Bingo and by doing the same Tomlin could have easily elevated himself and the organization at any point of the decade+ downfall but chose not to.

[langer]

Someone just posted this on X.

How Mike Tomlin fired Bruce Arians

https://x.com/steelcitystar/status/1880068469271720035

[swissvale72]

Someone just posted this on X.

How Mike Tomlin fired Bruce Arians

https://x.com/steelcitystar/status/1880068469271720035

Good piece....Mike Tomlin....#fullashit

[Gonzo]

Someone just posted this on X.

How Mike Tomlin fired Bruce Arians

https://x.com/steelcitystar/status/1880068469271720035

Good piece....Mike Tomlin....#fullashit

not a good line of bullshit .... just straight full of shit - on many levels

[Gonzo]

this shit has to stop -- cant anyone in that organization see what a clown show this is ... he doesnt even make sense. Its not a well-honed line of bullshit -- its utter nonsense and illogical cliche

Its bizarro world -- we are going to yet again hear about change that isnt coming and and see blame as a deflection from highly compensated individuals.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xRIqpVvzI48

[.Kodiak]

I think we all have a pretty good handle on the how and why at this point.

And nothing sums up the results more succinctly than "no one does less with more".

Tomlin is generally able to grind out his 8-10 wins per year against equally mediocre coaches trying to build something with lesser talent.

If Tomlin didn't inherit Cowher's coaches and players he'd have been done as a HC in this league after about 6 years.

[NCsteelerSU]

disillusioned....BA's wife nailed it. More people need to wake the fck up.

[DumlinBumlinStumlin]

disillusioned....BA's wife nailed it. More people need to wake the fck up.

This video won’t play, but it’s captioned

Arians felt betrayed by Tomlin
June 17, 2016 02:41 PM
Arizona Cardinals head coach Bruce Arians explained to HBO's Real Sports the controversial circumstances that led to his Pittsburgh Steelers' exit. He hints that Mike Tomlin was never honest in the process.

https://www.nbcsports.com/watch/nfl/ari ... -by-tomlin

BRUCE’S WIFE, CHRIS ARIANS: “I had admired Mike Tomlin so much. And I really thought he was a coach who really cared about his people. And for him to do this, well, I felt very disillusioned.”

This has the video

https://www.post-gazette.com/sports/Ste ... 1606170196


Each year goes by. I say Tomlin is a piece of shit, sociopath. No hall of fame deserve him, nor should they have him

[.Kodiak]

I still say the Arians thing was all Deuce. Wanted to prolong Ben's career. He wasn't wrong.

Think about it. Tomlin only fires people when they're absolutely terrible or he needs a fall guy. That offense was more than fine with Arians and Ben. My guess is Tomlin told Arians he'd be back because Tomlin wanted Arians back. Then Deuce stepped in.

[RealSwiss]

this shit has to stop -- cant anyone in that organization see what a clown show this is ... he doesnt even make sense. Its not a well-honed line of bullshit -- its utter nonsense and illogical cliche

Its bizarro world -- we are going to yet again hear about change that isnt coming and and see blame as a deflection from highly compensated individuals.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xRIqpVvzI48

Is that Tomlins first use of „Football Justice“?

[Gonzo]

this shit has to stop -- cant anyone in that organization see what a clown show this is ... he doesnt even make sense. Its not a well-honed line of bullshit -- its utter nonsense and illogical cliche

Its bizarro world -- we are going to yet again hear about change that isnt coming and and see blame as a deflection from highly compensated individuals.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xRIqpVvzI48

Is that Tomlins first use of „Football Justice“?

i believe so - add it to the bingo card
it’s football justice that the fraud was sent home … again … obviously and those type things

[Gonzo]

I don’t really like Teddy Bruschi but he just said something Mike Tomlin should listen to

you have to coach and play the game you are in not the game you wish it would be

[jeemie]

When Art II has his year end press conference , a reporter should ask him the following:

"Mr. Rooney, you have agreed big changes are needed to move the Steelers to the next level. You're also bringing Mike Tomlin back for another season.

"Can you name one specific example of when Mike Tomlin has led a specific change for the Steelers, and it yielded positive results? Why should we share your confidence that he can make the necessary changes to make the Steelers a true championship contender?"

Something along those lines, but seriously- when has Mike Tomlin ever upended his own way of doing things? When has he EVER been a change agent?

[Steeldrama]

I don’t really like Teddy Bruschi but he hair said something Mike Tomlin should listen to

you have to coach and play the game you are in not the game you wish it would be

Teddy is spot on

[AirRescueFF]

I don’t really like Teddy Bruschi but he hair said something Mike Tomlin should listen to

you have to coach and play the game you are in not the game you wish it would be

You definitely can see this with the top coaches. Sometimes from the beginning of the game.

[Dan Smith--BYU]

here's a question for Art 2: why didn't you hire the greatest coach ever who was available last year and who you constantly turned your fetish coach into a bottom bitch for 15 years?

[955876]

Duhhhh ummmmm ahhh I think I have the greatest and bestest coach already.

Art II aka Dunce

[Dan Smith--BYU]

Bottom bitch rock paper scissors

Tomlin is BB's bottom bitch
Art is Tomlin's bottom bitch
BB is...

Nah it falls apart, no one ever gets over on BB

Can't hire a guy like that I guess

[DumlinBumlinStumlin]

Joe Starkey is saying Tomlin has fostered and environment with the Steelers that causes chaos and not harmony. Bringing in others for rehab projects is a detriment to the team.

Some real hard words

Using Pickens as the latest example.

[Gonzo]

i think tomlin views himself as an agnostic tony dungy

[Thrillsseeker]

Joe Starkey is saying Tomlin has fostered and environment with the Steelers that causes chaos and not harmony. Bringing in others for rehab projects is a detriment to the team.

Some real hard words

Using Pickens as the latest example.

The pile on is clearly at an all time high.

I love it. I hope tonight I dream Mike Tomlin moves on to his life’s work sooner rather than later.