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Re: FIRE MIKE TOMLIN NOW!

Post by DumlinBumlinStumlin » Thu Jan 23, 2025 1:30 pm

Let’s turn back the clock 6 years to the rediculous hostages word salad shitsandwich

https://www.nbcsports.com/nfl/profootba ... ers-shtick

All part of the deception by the Fraudlin

Now the Steelers are the Stockholm Syndrome hostages


Tomlin PC 1/14/25 -“‘Stuck’ is a helpless feeling. I don’t feel helpless,” Tomlin said. “I don’t know if I want to sell you an overly optimistic (tone) either.

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Post by anpsteel » Thu Jan 23, 2025 3:47 pm

Apparently all Coaches are returning for next year.

How flipping pathetic

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Post by Steelcody7 » Thu Jan 23, 2025 6:01 pm

anpsteel wrote:
Thu Jan 23, 2025 3:47 pm
Apparently all Coaches are returning for next year.

How flipping pathetic
The standard continues.

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Post by langer » Thu Jan 23, 2025 6:08 pm

I wonder if things will be the same or better.

Or worse.
"We, as an offensive collective were off today, and certainly, he's a component of that,"

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Post by anpsteel » Thu Jan 23, 2025 8:34 pm

langer wrote:
Thu Jan 23, 2025 6:08 pm
I wonder if things will be the same or better.

Or worse.
I mean, we all know how this is going to play out. Barring Fields all the sudden having a light bulb moment, the team is destined to the same fate... but probably worse.

Also, I think we all realize, aside from the fans not showing up, the only thing that will expedite the Tomlin departure, is if the team really sucks.

So I'm all for 1-15 Lets suck for the 2026 QB draft class

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Post by RemoAZ » Thu Jan 23, 2025 10:13 pm

anpsteel wrote:
Thu Jan 23, 2025 3:47 pm
Apparently all Coaches are returning for next year.

How flipping pathetic
And completely predictable just like the schemes they run on both sides of the ball. They do what they do.
Howard Griffith had to resort to chop-blocking him during the 1997 AFC Championship Game. An incredulous Kirkland asked Griffith, “Why do you have to use cheap tactics like chop-blocking?” Griffith replied “Why do you have to be a 300-pound linebacker?”

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Post by langer » Fri Jan 24, 2025 2:26 am



https://www.facebook.com/share/p/12EsmEmFgVk/?



Lots of invective on this post about Coach being hired in 2007.
"We, as an offensive collective were off today, and certainly, he's a component of that,"

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Post by 955876 » Fri Jan 24, 2025 2:35 am

anpsteel wrote:
Thu Jan 23, 2025 3:47 pm
Apparently all Coaches are returning for next year.

How flipping pathetic
Gross incompetence.

Oline coach should be fired.

Defensive coordinator should be fired.

Fire WR coach as well for no other reason than Pickens dogging his routes.
Jibba Jabber’s offense hasn’t scored more than 7 1st quarter points in 84 consecutive games. An NFL record by far. A historic amount of “easin in”. We are lucky to have him.

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Post by anpsteel » Fri Jan 24, 2025 3:00 pm

955876 wrote:
Fri Jan 24, 2025 2:35 am
anpsteel wrote:
Thu Jan 23, 2025 3:47 pm
Apparently all Coaches are returning for next year.

How flipping pathetic
Gross incompetence.

Oline coach should be fired.

Defensive coordinator should be fired.

Fire WR coach as well for no other reason than Pickens dogging his routes.
OLine Coach should be fired... but... and this is important, how much of the blame falls upon the shoulders of the individuals mandating that drafted players, play out of position?

Defensive Coordinator- they definitely need a change, but we all know the real DC is the HC. Austin is just the mouthpiece.

Receivers' Coach- much like the other assistant coaches, how much of the issue falls upon others?
-Would Azziani have benched Pickens, if Tomlin let him?
-Would the receivers have gotten open more often, or better separation, if the play calling wasn't so repetitive and rudimentary?
We almost never saw receivers breaking open as result of being schemed open. Every play was, "go out there and beat your coverage", and typically some basic route designs that every opponent was aware of walking in to the stadium.

So, I do agree change has to happen, but we all know that until the HC changes, nothing else matters, because he controls essentially everything.

My gripe about no coaching changes, is, imo, this is not only a continuation of status quo, but in all likelihood, almost no fundamental changes regarding strategy or otherwise.

Noll's final season(s) Art and Dan mandated Coordinator change, and that those Coordinators change the way the schemes were being designed.

This, (No Change in any Assistants) says- keep doing what you do. We're fine with it.

Which is just bullshit.


I know the logic is a bit off, but I guess I'm saying, I was hoping ARII would mandate Assistant changes, for actual change, even if he wasn't willing to fire the HC.

Oh fucking well.

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Post by .Kodiak » Fri Jan 24, 2025 3:23 pm

955876 wrote:
Fri Jan 24, 2025 2:35 am
Oline coach should be fired.
Above all else. Nothing is more indicative than organization laziness, incompetence or both.

Last year we were looking for the OL and Meyer to take the next step. It was like groundhog day taking half the year to round into form, again.

Seems like he's being given a pass for injuries last year? Why? Many teams deal with that and overcome it. And they were garbage pretty much out of the gate and never really improved, except for a brief mirage of a stint against bad defenses.

Meyer is not the guy. No excuse for not moving on. OL is critical, and you can't fix the offense without getting better OL play. Tomlin's solution is more mobility at QB, as if that solves the run blocking or is even an optimal solution.

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Post by anpsteel » Fri Jan 24, 2025 3:57 pm

.Kodiak wrote:
Fri Jan 24, 2025 3:23 pm
955876 wrote:
Fri Jan 24, 2025 2:35 am
Oline coach should be fired.
Above all else. Nothing is more indicative than organization laziness, incompetence or both.

Last year we were looking for the OL and Meyer to take the next step. It was like groundhog day taking half the year to round into form, again.

Seems like he's being given a pass for injuries last year? Why? Many teams deal with that and overcome it. And they were garbage pretty much out of the gate and never really improved, except for a brief mirage of a stint against bad defenses.

Meyer is not the guy. No excuse for not moving on. OL is critical, and you can't fix the offense without getting better OL play. Tomlin's solution is more mobility at QB, as if that solves the run blocking or is even an optimal solution.
It amazes me, that Munchak is still sitting on his couch. I'm sure he doesn't particularly want to work with mediocre Mike, or maybe in any assistant position, but he is by far the best OLine coach we've had under Tomlin.

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Post by DumlinBumlinStumlin » Fri Jan 24, 2025 6:16 pm

The Pile on continues:

James Harrison:
https://steelerswire.usatoday.com/2025/ ... ndard-nfl/
“The standard is the standard” has been the mantra of the Pittsburgh Steelers organization for decades. It used to mean something, but like many fans of the team, a Steelers legend agrees they’re now pointless hot air.

“It’s not what you’re used to. The standard is the standard. It feels like a saying now. It’s not something you actually see,” James Harrison said on the Jan. 22 episode of Willie Colon’s “Why Willie Show.”

This isn’t the first time the two-time All-Pro has called out Mike Tomlin and the Steelers front office.

Last year on “The Pat McAfee Show,” Harrison was vocal about lowered expectations for the storied franchise.

Harrison believes Tomlin is largely to blame for Pittsburgh’s five-game skid and eight-year playoff win drought.

“If I’m the head coach of a football team, and I’ve been the head coach of this football team for however long that’s been, and now the team’s not doing well — that all has to fall on my shoulders,” Harrison said.
if more players he had come out, then the target on Tomlin gets bigger and Rooneys will get more bad light, which is needed
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Post by DumlinBumlinStumlin » Fri Jan 24, 2025 6:18 pm

Ben about the "Standard is the Standard" interview with Dulac

https://www.msn.com/en-us/sports/footba ... r-AA1xNLxU

'Don't Know That They're That Close:' Legendary Steelers QB Ben Roethlisberger Says Pittsburgh Has No Chance In Near Future

Roethlisberger spoke to the Pittsburgh Post-Gazette's Gerry Dulac recently and painted a sad picture regarding the state of the franchise. He believes that the beloved "Steelers way" has disappeared.

“It feels like there’s no ‘Steelers Way’ anymore,” Roethlisberger told Dulac . “There’s still guys who have it, but it doesn’t feel like it. It frustrates me to watch it happen.”

One of the few players that might still have that approach is the longest-tenured Steeler in Cameron Heyward, but Roethlisberger is spot on. This was evident when it seems as if some guys weren't going all out in a Wild Card loss to the Baltimore Ravens. The former first-round pick detailed that Pittsburgh isn't necessarily close to hoisting another Lombardi.

“It might be time to figure out what you’ve got to do for the next couple years to make a run,” Roethlisberger said to Dulac. “I don’t know that they’re that close, to be honest.”

Roethlisberger is insinuating that the organization might have to make a knowledgable decision to tank, or at least accept a losing season or two in order to gain better draft positioning. Picking in the late-teens or 20s is unlikely to generate a franchise-altering draft.
Roethlisberger spoke to the Pittsburgh Post-Gazette's Gerry Dulac recently and painted a sad picture regarding the state of the franchise. He believes that the beloved "Steelers way" has disappeared.

“It feels like there’s no ‘Steelers Way’ anymore,” Roethlisberger told Dulac . “There’s still guys who have it, but it doesn’t feel like it. It frustrates me to watch it happen.”

One of the few players that might still have that approach is the longest-tenured Steeler in Cameron Heyward, but Roethlisberger is spot on. This was evident when it seems as if some guys weren't going all out in a Wild Card loss to the Baltimore Ravens. The former first-round pick detailed that Pittsburgh isn't necessarily close to hoisting another Lombardi.

“It might be time to figure out what you’ve got to do for the next couple years to make a run,” Roethlisberger said to Dulac. “I don’t know that they’re that close, to be honest.”

Roethlisberger is insinuating that the organization might have to make a knowledgable decision to tank, or at least accept a losing season or two in order to gain better draft positioning. Picking in the late-teens or 20s is unlikely to generate a franchise-altering draft.

Tomlin is using the victim card here, lets take him to task
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Post by langer » Fri Jan 24, 2025 6:22 pm

Jim Rooney really fucked up. He could have shut his mouth but had to open it.

Too damned funny. The team is run by idiots.
"We, as an offensive collective were off today, and certainly, he's a component of that,"

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Post by DumlinBumlinStumlin » Fri Jan 24, 2025 7:33 pm

langer wrote:
Fri Jan 24, 2025 6:22 pm
Jim Rooney really fucked up. He could have shut his mouth but had to open it.

Too damned funny. The team is run by idiots.
The Rooney Yunz Egos Runneth, Tomlin too
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Post by Stillerz Bar » Fri Jan 24, 2025 8:40 pm

James Harrison on Tomlin

https://steelersnow.com/steelers-legend ... z39ojDFsXA

This pretty much says it all
“If I’m the head coach of a football team and I’ve been the head coach of this football team for however long that’s been, and now the team’s not doing well — that all has to fall on my shoulders,” Harrison said.

“Because I’ve been here long enough to be able to draft who I want and put the guys in the positions that I need. For me to be like, ‘I haven’t been (able to) get this or get that.’ Well, I’m the guy who’s supposed to be getting that. And I’ve been here long enough to get it.”

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Post by anpsteel » Fri Jan 24, 2025 8:52 pm

“At what point are we going to stop having our OLB crash down and let them play backer force?” Harrison wrote on X.
Friking exactly

We watched it all game long, and all game long, it didn't work. And all game long, they made no appreciable adjustments

Just flipping stupid

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Post by NCsteelerSU » Fri Jan 24, 2025 11:28 pm

anpsteel wrote:
Thu Jan 23, 2025 3:47 pm
Apparently all Coaches are returning for next year.

How flipping pathetic
gtfo.....I flipping hate it but it's time to take some mfing L's all season long, botton the fuck out and clean house in 2 years. Fuck this

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Post by .Kodiak » Sat Jan 25, 2025 12:15 am

TJ has been complaining, too. Someone said PIT needs to start moving him around like other teams do with elite EDGE guys, "even if TJ doesn't like it".

I read that like TJ doesn't move around because TJ hasn't wanted to. Which is yet another example of Tomlin just enabling guys rather than challenging them and getting buy-in to be their best.

There's no proof that's true, but it fits. Surely this coaching staff isn't THAT incompetent that TJ wants to move around for better match-ups, but they refuse to do the obvious?

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Post by stairway 2 seven » Sat Jan 25, 2025 4:35 pm

25 free agents this off season.
Question marks at: qb,rb,ot,wr2,wr1,nt,cb2,nickel cb
Games against det,minn,gb,@ben johnson cb,buf, @bal,@clev,@cin
I really think the wheels are going to fall off in '25. There will be more pressure on Rooney to get rid of Tomlin one way or another.
This would sync nicely with the '26 draft being held in pitt.
New coach and a draft with potential franchise qbs.
Call me an optimist.

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Post by .Kodiak » Sat Jan 25, 2025 9:40 pm

I wonder how willing TJ will be to re-sign. He's a FA after next year, and never winning a playoff game seems to be weighing on him.

Money, especially guaranteed money, talks. But I have a feeling TJ won't extend if Tomlin is still here. Which means, since Tomlin is coach for life, they should look into a trade.

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Post by Gonzo » Sun Jan 26, 2025 3:14 am

.Kodiak wrote:
Sat Jan 25, 2025 9:40 pm
I wonder how willing TJ will be to re-sign. He's a FA after next year, and never winning a playoff game seems to be weighing on him.

Money, especially guaranteed money, talks. But I have a feeling TJ won't extend if Tomlin is still here. Which means, since Tomlin is coach for life, they should look into a trade.
Sure he will stay
He gets to what he wants every play regardless of its efficacy

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Post by 955876 » Mon Jan 27, 2025 6:16 pm

And there was just an article quoting TJ about how great Jibbs is and how “Hard knocks doesn’t even begin to show how important Tomlin is to the franchise”.

Made me sick.

Watt & Scam Heyward are part of the problem here. Yes men to the end that bow at the alter of King Jabber.

So tired of hearing Scam say what needs to be done after the fact all the damn time. How bout before hand Scam??

Scam is the mouthpiece in the locker room teaching these guys the “Steelers Way”.

Ummm he’s teaching them how to be losers and accept mediocrity.

Ya sure Scam, you’ll get things ironed out next year.

Riiiiight.

You’ll get your shit pushed in like you always do.
Jibba Jabber’s offense hasn’t scored more than 7 1st quarter points in 84 consecutive games. An NFL record by far. A historic amount of “easin in”. We are lucky to have him.

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Post by Professor Half Wit » Mon Jan 27, 2025 10:13 pm

955876 wrote:
Mon Jan 27, 2025 6:16 pm
And there was just an article quoting TJ about how great Jibbs is and how “Hard knocks doesn’t even begin to show how important Tomlin is to the franchise”.

Made me sick.

Watt & Scam Heyward are part of the problem here. Yes men to the end that bow at the alter of King Jabber.

So tired of hearing Scam say what needs to be done after the fact all the damn time. How bout before hand Scam??

Scam is the mouthpiece in the locker room teaching these guys the “Steelers Way”.

Ummm he’s teaching them how to be losers and accept mediocrity.

Ya sure Scam, you’ll get things ironed out next year.

Riiiiight.

You’ll get your shit pushed in like you always do.
Not sure I want guys that throw coaches under the bus on my team, either.
“Being a fan is fine, but there is a line you can cross that makes it really unhealthy,” said Ken Yeager, PhD, a mental health expert in the department of psychiatry at The Ohio State University Wexner Medical Center.

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Post by .Kodiak » Mon Jan 27, 2025 10:56 pm

Professor Half Wit wrote:
Mon Jan 27, 2025 10:13 pm

Not sure I want guys that throw coaches under the bus on my team, either.
Correct. I was mostly going off a few quotes about TJ after the game appearing to be upset with the plan and lack of adjustments. Could have just been heat of the moment, but I think that sticks. Of course he's going to toe the company line, especially after having a few days to cool off.

I still believe TJ will asked not to be tagged, and they will grant that. And he will take a LONG hard look at other teams.

Which begs another question: After 8 years of getting the doors blown off in the playoffs, when they make it, exactly WHAT kind of FA is going to want to come here to play for Tomlin? Certainly not anyone that wants to win a championship.

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Post by langer » Tue Jan 28, 2025 12:11 pm

Coach Mike is working himself out of a sot at the HoF, a few years ago he would have gotten an entire new wing built with a fifty-foot tall bust complete with a big gold cross and aviators.

A few more years of this garbage people that vote will have many others to consider and he'll pale by comparison.

He's stuck around too long. Allowed himself to become a parody of what he pretended to be for many years.

His SB win was 16 years ago, with little to show since then and buried in a tomb of mediocrity.

He has to know this. The players that have been turned into scrubs must know this deep down.

Any of these guys going to the HoF? TJ is a long shot and getting worse.
"We, as an offensive collective were off today, and certainly, he's a component of that,"

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Post by DumlinBumlinStumlin » Tue Jan 28, 2025 1:41 pm

langer wrote:
Tue Jan 28, 2025 12:11 pm
Coach Mike is working himself out of a sot at the HoF, a few years ago he would have gotten an entire new wing built with a fifty-foot tall bust complete with a big gold cross and aviators.

A few more years of this garbage people that vote will have many others to consider and he'll pale by comparison.

He's stuck around too long. Allowed himself to become a parody of what he pretended to be for many years.

His SB win was 16 years ago, with little to show since then and buried in a tomb of mediocrity.

He has to know this. The players that have been turned into scrubs must know this deep down.

Any of these guys going to the HoF? TJ is a long shot and getting worse.
Spot on Langer
If he was smart enough to walk away a few yrs ago when Ben left. Then his HoF track would be smooth

Now with every season and every myth being exposed he’s not going to find himself there

Too arrogant, not self aware. His charade is championed by his owner who also doesnt belong there alongside his pop and grandpop
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Post by Professor Half Wit » Tue Jan 28, 2025 1:51 pm

langer wrote:
Tue Jan 28, 2025 12:11 pm
Coach Mike is working himself out of a sot at the HoF, a few years ago he would have gotten an entire new wing built with a fifty-foot tall bust complete with a big gold cross and aviators.

A few more years of this garbage people that vote will have many others to consider and he'll pale by comparison.

He's stuck around too long. Allowed himself to become a parody of what he pretended to be for many years.

His SB win was 16 years ago, with little to show since then and buried in a tomb of mediocrity.

He has to know this. The players that have been turned into scrubs must know this deep down.

Any of these guys going to the HoF? TJ is a long shot and getting worse.
TJ may have the numbers to get in already.
“Being a fan is fine, but there is a line you can cross that makes it really unhealthy,” said Ken Yeager, PhD, a mental health expert in the department of psychiatry at The Ohio State University Wexner Medical Center.

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Post by DumlinBumlinStumlin » Tue Jan 28, 2025 1:53 pm

It needs to be drilled into everyone

Tomlin, the man who does less with more
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Post by langer » Tue Jan 28, 2025 2:19 pm

Professor Half Wit wrote:
Tue Jan 28, 2025 1:51 pm
langer wrote:
Tue Jan 28, 2025 12:11 pm
Coach Mike is working himself out of a sot at the HoF, a few years ago he would have gotten an entire new wing built with a fifty-foot tall bust complete with a big gold cross and aviators.

A few more years of this garbage people that vote will have many others to consider and he'll pale by comparison.

He's stuck around too long. Allowed himself to become a parody of what he pretended to be for many years.

His SB win was 16 years ago, with little to show since then and buried in a tomb of mediocrity.

He has to know this. The players that have been turned into scrubs must know this deep down.

Any of these guys going to the HoF? TJ is a long shot and getting worse.
TJ may have the numbers to get in already.
Check out Joe Klecko, who I didn't think was in. TJ does have more PBs and DPoY. So he does have a shot, lost his luster these last few years though, imo. The collapse this year was real bad.
"We, as an offensive collective were off today, and certainly, he's a component of that,"

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