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Re: Ok this Rodgers BS

Post by tbsteel » Wed Mar 19, 2025 3:51 pm

Steeldrama wrote:
Wed Mar 19, 2025 3:34 pm
tbsteel wrote:
Wed Mar 19, 2025 2:17 pm
bradshaw2ben wrote:
Wed Mar 19, 2025 12:12 pm


I really see this as Tomlin's going to be all about adding a QB to this glorious team I have that can win a SB if it only gets this one piece, and Wiedl being more like my thinking of: no point in adding a bad QB when you still have a long ways to go in building the team, especially the trenches.
Tomlin is desperate and thinks he can save his sinking ship.
Where did anyone read or see Tomlin is desperate?

MOST fans of the Steelers are probably desperate (I'm not)

Omar Khan might be desperate since he holds the GM "title."

Uncle Artie might be mildly desperate fi he wants to keep coaching in the NFL (it's not a money thing with daddy being a billionaire)

Deuce is in a coma-like stupor so we know he's not "desperate"

Yep, Tomlin SHOULD be desperate, but I promise you he's not (NHALS not ending a priority but not a stressor)

If anyone can be PATIENT it's Tomlin (the whole more job security than the pope thing).

If he were desperate HE wouldn't have low-balled Justin Fields and Sam Darnold.

Desperate isn't offering Aaron Rodgers a contract, it's just the cold reality that there's nothing else out there.

It's the same tired story in the NFL, too many teams/not nearly enough QB talent.

Desperate is probably overstating it, but I think it's clear they miscalculated and currently are stuck in a bit of a rut. I think they were obviously soured on Russ, wanted to bring back Fields to give him a prove-it year as starter, but did the usual Steelers thing of not guaranteeing enough money + miscalculated in that Fields actually preferred to go somewhere else rather than come back.

I think some of Cam's recent comments of "either you want to be a Steeler or you don't" kind of speak to that frustration that is being felt.

Tomlin knows who Mason Rudolph is. He doesn't want 17 games of that. And they clearly don't want Russ back and if they do bring him back at this point then yeah that's definitely desperation. They couldn't make it more clear that Russ is the last option. The flirty fatty at the bar who smells like she doesn't wipe well enough, or worse, wipes back to front.

But I think Steelers fans aren't appreciating how likely either their first or third round pick is going to be a QB. If I were a betting man I'd definitely lean that way at this point. Tomlin can't have any patience and wait on what should be a very nice QB class next year. He's going to push to get a guy early this draft and will probably set us back another 2-3 years like they did with Pickett.


*roots for losses*

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Post by K_C_ » Wed Mar 19, 2025 4:09 pm

jebrick wrote:
Wed Mar 19, 2025 3:46 pm
K_C_ wrote:
Wed Mar 19, 2025 3:21 pm
bradshaw2ben wrote:
Wed Mar 19, 2025 1:39 pm

Dart can read a defense? C'mon, man. The Mississippi offense is super idiosyncratic and made for easy, open throws for him. He wouldn't be seeing anything like that, in a theoretical pairing with Arthur "Neanderthal" Smith and Mike "Risk-Averse" Tomlin.
Okay how is Milroe different than Fields? Why would Mike Tomlin only now finally realize the importance of a mobile QB?

I’m not buying it. If they signed Fields and no other QB’s, I could see Milroe being the pick. They would complement each other.

Rudolph and Milroe is just weird (and you know Mason would begin the season as the starter.)
He knows what he will get with Fields ( one read QB throws a crappy deep ball) vs the possibility of Milroe. Rudolph is a better QB to tutor Milroe than Fields. Milroe needs to learn to throw the ball with the correct mechanics. He does not need lessons in running the ball.
Milroe is an elite runner (just like Fields was entering the league) but I jumped off the MIlroe train when his hands were measured the same size as Kenny Pickett's.

As a passer I think Milroe has more upside than Fields, but I'm not sure how much more upside. I think both are probably RB's masquerading as QB's but lots of folks thought Lamar Jackson should have been converted to WR when he entered the league so we'll see.

Still, the hand size for Milroe is a huge red flag for me.
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Post by bradshaw2ben » Wed Mar 19, 2025 4:11 pm

Deebo wrote:
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I don’t disagree, Wil, but did Tomlin come to that realization AFTER he acquired Wilson? I’m with you in that I feel like Tomlin has been commenting on QB mobility for years and the desire to get someone that possesses that.

So why did Tomlin go Wilson over Fields? By all reports that was 100 percent Mike’s choice, even to the chagrin of Arthur Smith. If he wanted a mobile QB he had one on the roster that just led the team to a 4-2 record.

So we switch to Wilson? Was it a promise he made Russell that he felt he had to keep? Was it some kind of Christian brotherhood thing? Was it because he finds Ciara attractive?

I don’t think Mike Tomlin even knows because if he’s not talking out of his ass then something is wrong. He’s a dummy and he’s ruined this franchise.
Well if QB mobility were a key factor, then why was MR brought back?
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Post by bradshaw2ben » Wed Mar 19, 2025 4:14 pm

jebrick wrote:
Wed Mar 19, 2025 3:46 pm
K_C_ wrote:
Wed Mar 19, 2025 3:21 pm
bradshaw2ben wrote:
Wed Mar 19, 2025 1:39 pm

Dart can read a defense? C'mon, man. The Mississippi offense is super idiosyncratic and made for easy, open throws for him. He wouldn't be seeing anything like that, in a theoretical pairing with Arthur "Neanderthal" Smith and Mike "Risk-Averse" Tomlin.
Okay how is Milroe different than Fields? Why would Mike Tomlin only now finally realize the importance of a mobile QB?

I’m not buying it. If they signed Fields and no other QB’s, I could see Milroe being the pick. They would complement each other.

Rudolph and Milroe is just weird (and you know Mason would begin the season as the starter.)
He knows what he will get with Fields ( one read QB throws a crappy deep ball) vs the possibility of Milroe. Rudolph is a better QB to tutor Milroe than Fields. Milroe needs to learn to throw the ball with the correct mechanics. He does not need lessons in running the ball.
All of this. My father in law is one of those guys who keeps buying newer TV and cars, even though he's in his 80s. Even though he has almost the same TV/car, a new one always holds more possibilities.

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Post by jebrick » Wed Mar 19, 2025 4:30 pm

K_C_ wrote:
Wed Mar 19, 2025 4:09 pm
jebrick wrote:
Wed Mar 19, 2025 3:46 pm
K_C_ wrote:
Wed Mar 19, 2025 3:21 pm


Okay how is Milroe different than Fields? Why would Mike Tomlin only now finally realize the importance of a mobile QB?

I’m not buying it. If they signed Fields and no other QB’s, I could see Milroe being the pick. They would complement each other.

Rudolph and Milroe is just weird (and you know Mason would begin the season as the starter.)
He knows what he will get with Fields ( one read QB throws a crappy deep ball) vs the possibility of Milroe. Rudolph is a better QB to tutor Milroe than Fields. Milroe needs to learn to throw the ball with the correct mechanics. He does not need lessons in running the ball.
Milroe is an elite runner (just like Fields was entering the league) but I jumped off the MIlroe train when his hands were measured the same size as Kenny Pickett's.

As a passer I think Milroe has more upside than Fields, but I'm not sure how much more upside. I think both are probably RB's masquerading as QB's but lots of folks thought Lamar Jackson should have been converted to WR when he entered the league so we'll see.

Still, the hand size for Milroe is a huge red flag for me.
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Post by Deebo » Wed Mar 19, 2025 4:35 pm

K_C_ wrote:
Wed Mar 19, 2025 4:09 pm
jebrick wrote:
Wed Mar 19, 2025 3:46 pm
K_C_ wrote:
Wed Mar 19, 2025 3:21 pm


Okay how is Milroe different than Fields? Why would Mike Tomlin only now finally realize the importance of a mobile QB?

I’m not buying it. If they signed Fields and no other QB’s, I could see Milroe being the pick. They would complement each other.

Rudolph and Milroe is just weird (and you know Mason would begin the season as the starter.)
He knows what he will get with Fields ( one read QB throws a crappy deep ball) vs the possibility of Milroe. Rudolph is a better QB to tutor Milroe than Fields. Milroe needs to learn to throw the ball with the correct mechanics. He does not need lessons in running the ball.
Milroe is an elite runner (just like Fields was entering the league) but I jumped off the MIlroe train when his hands were measured the same size as Kenny Pickett's.

As a passer I think Milroe has more upside than Fields, but I'm not sure how much more upside. I think both are probably RB's masquerading as QB's but lots of folks thought Lamar Jackson should have been converted to WR when he entered the league so we'll see.

Still, the hand size for Milroe is a huge red flag for me.
Don't mean to sidetrack this, but KP's hands weren't the issue

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Post by franco>madden » Wed Mar 19, 2025 4:35 pm

FWIW ...
Vikings out on Aaron Rodgers sweepstakes as Giants, Steelers remain in waiting game ...

The quarterback-needy Giants and Steelers are still pursuing Rodgers, who was released by the Jets this offseason after two unremarkable years.
https://nypost.com/2025/03/19/sports/vi ... rs-remain/

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Post by langer » Wed Mar 19, 2025 4:41 pm

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Post by 955876 » Wed Mar 19, 2025 5:07 pm

Milroe needs to learn to throw the ball with the correct mechanics.
What better place to learn proper QB mechanics than working with the Pittsburgh “You’ll figure it out” Steelers coaching staff.
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Post by K_C_ » Wed Mar 19, 2025 5:15 pm

Deebo wrote:
Wed Mar 19, 2025 4:35 pm
K_C_ wrote:
Wed Mar 19, 2025 4:09 pm
jebrick wrote:
Wed Mar 19, 2025 3:46 pm


He knows what he will get with Fields ( one read QB throws a crappy deep ball) vs the possibility of Milroe. Rudolph is a better QB to tutor Milroe than Fields. Milroe needs to learn to throw the ball with the correct mechanics. He does not need lessons in running the ball.
Milroe is an elite runner (just like Fields was entering the league) but I jumped off the MIlroe train when his hands were measured the same size as Kenny Pickett's.

As a passer I think Milroe has more upside than Fields, but I'm not sure how much more upside. I think both are probably RB's masquerading as QB's but lots of folks thought Lamar Jackson should have been converted to WR when he entered the league so we'll see.

Still, the hand size for Milroe is a huge red flag for me.
Don't mean to sidetrack this, but KP's hands weren't the issue
Well both Milroe and Dart have a lot more arm talent than Pickett but small hands on a mobile QB could lead to major fumble issues. Milroe already has accuracy and mechanics issues. The tiny hands are more of a cherry on top of the sundae so while I love Milroe’s running ability, he has too many other question marks for me.

Dart throws with accuracy and has balls. I think he will be the first round pick and Mason will mentor him.
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Post by Deebo » Wed Mar 19, 2025 6:44 pm

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Post by LakecrestSteeler » Wed Mar 19, 2025 6:56 pm

K_C_ wrote:
Wed Mar 19, 2025 3:21 pm
bradshaw2ben wrote:
Wed Mar 19, 2025 1:39 pm
K_C_ wrote:
Wed Mar 19, 2025 12:57 pm


Tomlin is playing possum (for a change.)

If they wanted Jalen Milroe, they could have signed Justin Fields early and been done with it.

Mason is a better person and a better mentor for a guy like Dart. Rudolph is the perfect back up QB to help a kid like Dart who has arm talent and can read defenses, to thrive.

Don't buy Tomlin's bullshit here because unless they trade down, they aren't taking Milroe who will be around in the 2nd round.

Dart very likely won't make it out of the first.
Dart can read a defense? C'mon, man. The Mississippi offense is super idiosyncratic and made for easy, open throws for him. He wouldn't be seeing anything like that, in a theoretical pairing with Arthur "Neanderthal" Smith and Mike "Risk-Averse" Tomlin.
Okay how is Milroe different than Fields? Why would Mike Tomlin only now finally realize the importance of a mobile QB?

I’m not buying it. If they signed Fields and no other QB’s, I could see Milroe being the pick. They would complement each other.

Rudolph and Milroe is just weird (and you know Mason would begin the season as the starter.)
He comes from Alabama, has the same name as the lastest Super Bowl winning QB, not named Pickett, and we need a running back too. And Jalen and the Eagles is not a bad blueprint to follow. Unfortunately, we cannot do what they do with DL and OL.

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Post by Gonzo » Wed Mar 19, 2025 7:25 pm

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You mean you’re good with Jalen Milroe at 1.21, cause that’s where this is headed.
unfortunately I agree

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Post by Deebo » Wed Mar 19, 2025 7:27 pm

Gonzo wrote:
Wed Mar 19, 2025 7:25 pm
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You mean you’re good with Jalen Milroe at 1.21, cause that’s where this is headed.
unfortunately I agree
Most people have Milroe going in the 2nd/3rd round. Or am I reading the wrong reports?

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Post by Gonzo » Wed Mar 19, 2025 7:38 pm

KP wasnt a first round talent either

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Post by Gonzo » Wed Mar 19, 2025 7:43 pm

I think the Steelers dont want Wilson back
Tomlin wants Rodgers as it temporarily supports his myth that the only problem with the team is QB
However, he is also envious of the ravens - so milroe is in the cards. Think about it -- 75% runs a game ... 4 yards at a clip, with nothing but check downs and moon balls the other 25%. They might ache]ieve 45 minutes TOP a game and only 4 possessions per team.
Top D in the league because they have slowed the game to a dead crawl

Milroe doesnt have to be a great passer -- he just has to not throw INTs, fumble or take too many sacks -- that is the Smith/Tomlin measurable

Jaxson Dart has no such appeal

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Post by Deebo » Wed Mar 19, 2025 7:47 pm

Gonzo wrote:
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KP wasnt a first round talent either
Certainly not.
But a few times had a 1st round grade on him. Including the idiotic Steelers.

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Post by 955876 » Wed Mar 19, 2025 8:00 pm

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Translation: the fraud knows he isn’t capable of winning shit, developing shit, or preserving NHALS unless he has a QB that already knows what he’s doing.

Coach “you’ll figure it out” Tomlin doesn’t have time to teach.

He is too busy focusing on catch phrases and matching his Sunday necklace to his cool shades.

No serious coach would want Aaron fucking Rogers at this point unless literally to preserve NHALS.
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Post by bradshaw2ben » Wed Mar 19, 2025 8:12 pm

Deebo wrote:
Wed Mar 19, 2025 7:27 pm
Gonzo wrote:
Wed Mar 19, 2025 7:25 pm
bradshaw2ben wrote:
Wed Mar 19, 2025 3:19 am
You mean you’re good with Jalen Milroe at 1.21, cause that’s where this is headed.
unfortunately I agree
Most people have Milroe going in the 2nd/3rd round. Or am I reading the wrong reports?
QBs. Draft. Where was Kenny Pickett ranked?

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Post by Forty Three » Wed Mar 19, 2025 8:53 pm

Gonzo wrote:
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KP wasnt a first round talent either
Tell that to the owner who forced the pick.

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Post by Steeldrama » Wed Mar 19, 2025 10:39 pm

Milroe = 4.37

Roll
Tide

Slash part 2

I know I’d watch

Bibberty?

Not so much
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Post by Orangesteel » Wed Mar 19, 2025 10:40 pm

Goodness, gracious, great NHALS of fire.
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Post by jebrick » Wed Mar 19, 2025 10:58 pm

Gonzo wrote:
Wed Mar 19, 2025 7:43 pm
I think the Steelers dont want Wilson back
Tomlin wants Rodgers as it temporarily supports his myth that the only problem with the team is QB
However, he is also envious of the ravens - so milroe is in the cards. Think about it -- 75% runs a game ... 4 yards at a clip, with nothing but check downs and moon balls the other 25%. They might ache]ieve 45 minutes TOP a game and only 4 possessions per team.
Top D in the league because they have slowed the game to a dead crawl

Milroe doesnt have to be a great passer -- he just has to not throw INTs, fumble or take too many sacks -- that is the Smith/Tomlin measurable

Jaxson Dart has no such appeal
Problem is, in his current form, I would not trust Milroe to throw the ball at all. Even within 5 yards of the LOS. He is that bad.
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Post by Steeldrama » Wed Mar 19, 2025 11:30 pm

Some of y'all are wound WAY too tight.

You're looking at this qb mess all wrong.

There was a poster (name legit escapes me) said he'd rather watch Mason Fucking Rudolph...BIBBERTY...than a rookie QB like Shedeur Sanders.

In God's name why???

Why torture yourself like that????

Sure, Milroe and his 4.37 40 has A LOT too work on, but if Tomlin drafts this kid I'll sure as hell be watching a tantalizing athlete like that .(especially if there's a Slash 2 role in the offing).

"But, But, next year, next year's class is loaded..."

or my personal favorite

"You're setting the search for a franchise QB back 2-3 years!!!"

Ummm you don't think Tomlin is still going to be here in 2-3 years?

I know I've got better things to do than wait that guy out.

Nope

No Rodgers, Russell, or Bibberty (really dude?) for me

Give me a fun, excitement on a stick, knows not what the fuck he's doing rookie over that crap

My mood? My vibe?? It's all right here in an epic 23 second rant

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Post by 955876 » Wed Mar 19, 2025 11:41 pm

Problem is, in his current form, I would not trust Milroe to throw the ball at all. Even within 5 yards of the LOS. He is that bad.
Which only means he will appeal to the wretched turds running this team even more.

Jibbs and the Dunce despise the forward pass.
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Post by Gonzo » Thu Mar 20, 2025 12:25 am

all the current reports seem pretty sure rodgers is going to choose steelers ???

yuck

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Post by .Kodiak » Thu Mar 20, 2025 12:42 am

Just straightening everyone out on the narrative for next season:

Tomlin goes 9-8 with Mason at QB: "WOW. COY!!!!. 9-8 with Mason Rudolph as his QB is incredible"
Tomlin goes 9-8 with Rodgers at QB: "WOW. Aaron Rodgers is washed. But how great is Tomlin to still go 9-8?!?"

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Post by stairway 2 seven » Thu Mar 20, 2025 12:44 am

Are they finished signing dl in free agency? I hope not.
Nobody thinks they're taking Harmon, Grant or some other dl in 1st round?

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Post by StillerDownSouth » Thu Mar 20, 2025 1:21 am

Milroe in the 1st would be a travesty, at this point I'm all for Steelers trading out of the 1st all together, if they could pick up a high 2nd and a late 3rd or early 4th I would do that, then if Milroe is still around in the 3rd, which he will be unless the Steelers and only the Steelers take him sooner, then I could live with Milroe being the pick.

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Post by StillerDownSouth » Thu Mar 20, 2025 1:25 am

But knowing the Steelers, and the fact that Anthony Richardson was drafted 4th overall a few years back, I could see them taking Milroe at 21, which would suck, but oh well the Steelers have sucked for quite a while now...Richardson set an NFL record last year I believe, completing only 47% of his passes.

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