Ok this Rodgers BS

[Thrillsseeker]

Not sure if anyone noticed today but everybody had Allen Lazard signing with the Steelers to join his old pal Aaron Rodgers, after he became the Steelers starting QB.

Welp, Lazard just took a pay cut to remain with the Jets.

I do not think Aaron Rodgers is ever coming to PIttsburgh and I, for one, am overjoyed at that prospect.

Give me Dart, Milroe, Slough, Howard, etc. I do not give a fuck but I want a young guy waiting in the wings while Mason mentors him.

I understand Tomlin is an idiot and it probably won't work out but the Steelers are due for some luck at the QB position.

Are they due though?

A lot of QB’s and years between Bradshaw to Ben. Let’s hope they don’t repeat that timespan!

Mark Malone, David Woodley, Scott Campbell, Bubby Brister, Steve Bono (during the 1987 strike), Todd Blackledge, Neil O’Donnell, Mike Tomczak, Kordell Stewart, Jim Miller, Kent Graham and Tommy Maddox.

'83 draft doomed the Stillers for a long time. Could have gone from Bradshaw>Marino>Ben.
But hey they thought Gabriel Rivera was gonna be a balla.

Agreed. Wasn’t it because the rumors of Marino snorting Coke?

[PennyBacker]

What I don't comprehend are all the fans who are getting worked up because Rodgers isn't in a rush to sign in the middle of fucking March. What he does shouldn't impact anything the Steelers do.

They apparently don't want Russell Wilson. Joe Flacco isn't going anywhere. Rodgers isn't a long term solution so he shouldn't impact their draft evaluation at all (he probably will, but only because this franchise is incredibly shortsighted and focused on the wrong things).

The talking heads do their thing and fans bark and clap like seals.

+1

If he were to have signed already, then the speculation period would have ended and the new narrative would be burning fuel. That does not fit the offseason timeline. One must presently embrace this incubation of nothingness hype before the draft; where something is said about a whole bunch of nothing, in hopes that nothing evolves into something, or stays nothing at all, but either way, at least there was something ... from nothing.

And then if / when he signs, the narrative of can he guide the Steelers to an NFL franchise record 22nd consecutive non-losing season (?) begins to happen. Followed by are Aaron Rodgers and DK Metcalf the Steelers response to the Ravens' cheat code of signing Derrick Henry last offseason? And can Pittsburgh go further than the Divisional Round, where Baltimore faded? Will there even be a playoff win?

Much of the next narrative is not ready to be dramatized until the actual games draw nearer.

[steelmann58]

As we continue to wait it more and more pissing me off with this organization. They are waiting for a 41 year old Qb who imo does not move the needle as much as some believe. It almost as they have to know he coming because Omar states they want 4 Qb in camp and there not any Qb left to sign imo

[Deebo]

What I don't comprehend are all the fans who are getting worked up because Rodgers isn't in a rush to sign in the middle of fucking March. What he does shouldn't impact anything the Steelers do.

They apparently don't want Russell Wilson. Joe Flacco isn't going anywhere. Rodgers isn't a long term solution so he shouldn't impact their draft evaluation at all (he probably will, but only because this franchise is incredibly shortsighted and focused on the wrong things).

The talking heads do their thing and fans bark and clap like seals.

+1

If he were to have signed already, then the speculation period would have ended and the new narrative would be burning fuel. That does not fit the offseason timeline. One must presently embrace this incubation of nothingness hype before the draft; where something is said about a whole bunch of nothing, in hopes that nothing evolves into something, or stays nothing at all, but either way, at least there was something ... from nothing.

And then if / when he signs, the narrative of can he guide the Steelers to an NFL franchise record 22nd consecutive non-losing season (?) begins to happen. Followed by are Aaron Rodgers and DK Metcalf the Steelers response to the Ravens' cheat code of signing Derrick Henry last offseason? And can Pittsburgh go further than the Divisional Round, where Baltimore faded? Will there even be a playoff win?

Much of the next narrative is not ready to be dramatized until the actual games draw nearer.

I don't care about AR signing for my own entertainment's sake.

My issue is that this should have been decided BEFORE the draft for obvious reasons. Right now the coaches should be working on a breakdown of how many snaps each QB should be taking and with whom. With it being up in the air, they have to plan for two scenarios 1) with AR on the team and 2) without.

They also need to begin installing the types of plays they want to run with the primary QB. Rudolph ain't AR and vice versa. They each have strengths/weaknesses.

Considering this coaching staff sucks cock in a myriad of ways, having them spend time on things that may not come to fruition seems inefficient.
There is literally no other team in this situation, perhaps the Saints with Carr retiring, but that was unexpected. This situation is NOT unexpected...it's letting a FA call the shots. Not a good look for a lockerroom that already runs the henhouse instead of the coaches.

[PennyBacker]

What I don't comprehend are all the fans who are getting worked up because Rodgers isn't in a rush to sign in the middle of fucking March. What he does shouldn't impact anything the Steelers do.

They apparently don't want Russell Wilson. Joe Flacco isn't going anywhere. Rodgers isn't a long term solution so he shouldn't impact their draft evaluation at all (he probably will, but only because this franchise is incredibly shortsighted and focused on the wrong things).

The talking heads do their thing and fans bark and clap like seals.

+1

If he were to have signed already, then the speculation period would have ended and the new narrative would be burning fuel. That does not fit the offseason timeline. One must presently embrace this incubation of nothingness hype before the draft; where something is said about a whole bunch of nothing, in hopes that nothing evolves into something, or stays nothing at all, but either way, at least there was something ... from nothing.

And then if / when he signs, the narrative of can he guide the Steelers to an NFL franchise record 22nd consecutive non-losing season (?) begins to happen. Followed by are Aaron Rodgers and DK Metcalf the Steelers response to the Ravens' cheat code of signing Derrick Henry last offseason? And can Pittsburgh go further than the Divisional Round, where Baltimore faded? Will there even be a playoff win?

Much of the next narrative is not ready to be dramatized until the actual games draw nearer.

I don't care about AR signing for my own entertainment's sake.

My issue is that this should have been decided BEFORE the draft for obvious reasons. Right now the coaches should be working on a breakdown of how many snaps each QB should be taking and with whom. With it being up in the air, they have to plan for two scenarios 1) with AR on the team and 2) without.

They also need to begin installing the types of plays they want to run with the primary QB. Rudolph ain't AR and vice versa. They each have strengths/weaknesses.

Considering this coaching staff sucks cock in a myriad of ways, having them spend time on things that may not come to fruition seems inefficient.
There is literally no other team in this situation, perhaps the Saints with Carr retiring, but that was unexpected. This situation is NOT unexpected...it's letting a FA call the shots. Not a good look for a lockerroom that already runs the henhouse instead of the coaches.

Rodgers would require less reps than Rudolph and Will Howard, but that does not mean it may not be in the team’s best interest to have AR on the roster by OTAs.

Ideally, Arthur Smith and the other offensive coaches are as dedicated to game planning as you have ire about their past performance. But it also makes little sense to think about orchestrating a progression of the playbook until the schedule is released.

No matter who plays quarterback, and what plays are installed when, the most important factor of all will be player execution. This year’s offense likely goes as far as the offensive line can progress.

[steelmann58]

The FZo put this team behind the 8 ball. Their should been a take it leave it date a while ago. And now you have put them in the same situation as 2024. You have no viable number .2 Wr on this team.

[bradshaw2ben]

+1

If he were to have signed already, then the speculation period would have ended and the new narrative would be burning fuel. That does not fit the offseason timeline. One must presently embrace this incubation of nothingness hype before the draft; where something is said about a whole bunch of nothing, in hopes that nothing evolves into something, or stays nothing at all, but either way, at least there was something ... from nothing.

And then if / when he signs, the narrative of can he guide the Steelers to an NFL franchise record 22nd consecutive non-losing season (?) begins to happen. Followed by are Aaron Rodgers and DK Metcalf the Steelers response to the Ravens' cheat code of signing Derrick Henry last offseason? And can Pittsburgh go further than the Divisional Round, where Baltimore faded? Will there even be a playoff win?

Much of the next narrative is not ready to be dramatized until the actual games draw nearer.

I don't care about AR signing for my own entertainment's sake.

My issue is that this should have been decided BEFORE the draft for obvious reasons. Right now the coaches should be working on a breakdown of how many snaps each QB should be taking and with whom. With it being up in the air, they have to plan for two scenarios 1) with AR on the team and 2) without.

They also need to begin installing the types of plays they want to run with the primary QB. Rudolph ain't AR and vice versa. They each have strengths/weaknesses.

Considering this coaching staff sucks cock in a myriad of ways, having them spend time on things that may not come to fruition seems inefficient.
There is literally no other team in this situation, perhaps the Saints with Carr retiring, but that was unexpected. This situation is NOT unexpected...it's letting a FA call the shots. Not a good look for a lockerroom that already runs the henhouse instead of the coaches.

Rodgers would require less reps than Rudolph and Will Howard, but that does not mean it may not be in the team’s best interest to have AR on the roster by OTAs.

Ideally, Arthur Smith and the other offensive coaches are as dedicated to game planning as you have ire about their past performance. But it also makes little sense to think about orchestrating a progression of the playbook until the schedule is released.

No matter who plays quarterback, and what plays are installed when, the most important factor of all will be player execution. This year’s offense likely goes as far as the offensive line can progress.

Rodgers may not need the snaps, but there is zero doubt the OTHER guys need snaps with Rodgers, especially if they're going to play a different style/tempo with him on the field. It's malpractice to bring Rodgers in without giving the team the necessary time to adjust.

[.Kodiak]

especially if they're going to play a different style/tempo with him on the field. It's malpractice to bring Rodgers in without giving the team the necessary time to adjust.

[steelmann58]

The WR and Te need to get on the page with a new QB early in these OTT and Mini Camp.

[955876]

The WR and Te need to get on the page with a new QB early in these OTT and Mini Camp.

Nah. They’ll figure it out. We ease into the first part of the season while “probing” and figuring things out so no reason to worry bout things such as this.

Hitting the ground running overrated anyways.

[Stillerz Bar]

The WR and Te need to get on the page with a new QB early in these OTT and Mini Camp.

Nah. They’ll figure it out. We ease into the first part of the season while “probing” and figuring things out so no reason to worry bout things such as this.

Hitting the ground running overrated anyways.

Orrrrrrrr

They could scratch and claw their way to an 8-2 start despite themselves, stumble against a clearly inferior team, seemingly figure things out on O with a 44 point, 400+ yards passing performance in a win that secures NHALS , have the coaches realize they need to retake control of play calling to rein in this crazy QB who values scoring over controlling the game with ball control and TOP and show everyone by getting their revenge win against that inferior team and THEN.... REALLY show everyone the importance of ball control by not scoring over 17 points the rest of the season and still winning....

Oops, I mean LOSING every remaining game, including another embarrassing first round playoff loss.

Now doesn't that sound fun

[PennyBacker]

I don't care about AR signing for my own entertainment's sake.

My issue is that this should have been decided BEFORE the draft for obvious reasons. Right now the coaches should be working on a breakdown of how many snaps each QB should be taking and with whom. With it being up in the air, they have to plan for two scenarios 1) with AR on the team and 2) without.

They also need to begin installing the types of plays they want to run with the primary QB. Rudolph ain't AR and vice versa. They each have strengths/weaknesses.

Considering this coaching staff sucks cock in a myriad of ways, having them spend time on things that may not come to fruition seems inefficient.
There is literally no other team in this situation, perhaps the Saints with Carr retiring, but that was unexpected. This situation is NOT unexpected...it's letting a FA call the shots. Not a good look for a lockerroom that already runs the henhouse instead of the coaches.

Rodgers would require less reps than Rudolph and Will Howard, but that does not mean it may not be in the team’s best interest to have AR on the roster by OTAs.

Ideally, Arthur Smith and the other offensive coaches are as dedicated to game planning as you have ire about their past performance. But it also makes little sense to think about orchestrating a progression of the playbook until the schedule is released.

No matter who plays quarterback, and what plays are installed when, the most important factor of all will be player execution. This year’s offense likely goes as far as the offensive line can progress.

Rodgers may not need the snaps, but there is zero doubt the OTHER guys need snaps with Rodgers, especially if they're going to play a different style/tempo with him on the field. It's malpractice to bring Rodgers in without giving the team the necessary time to adjust.

Players and coaches deserve time to get acclimated to a field general like Rodgers, but it’s also the case that many of the guys will have their experience with Russell Wilson from last year to draw upon.

Will Howard may benefit more than anyone from a later ARrival. It could allow an uptick in his involvement that may not otherwise exist. It’s also possible that Howard is going to get his reps regardless, and that Mason Rudolph’ll have to rely upon his vet savvy if AR comes through the door.

With a talent like Aaron Rodgers, locker room acceptance would be more important than practice reps right now. How is he received, how does he receive others? As long as his character does not get poisoned through media propaganda, the rest should work itself out.

[955876]

The WR and Te need to get on the page with a new QB early in these OTT and Mini Camp.

Nah. They’ll figure it out. We ease into the first part of the season while “probing” and figuring things out so no reason to worry bout things such as this.

Hitting the ground running overrated anyways.

Orrrrrrrr

They could scratch and claw their way to an 8-2 start despite themselves, stumble against a clearly inferior team, seemingly figure things out on O with a 44 point, 400+ yards passing performance in a win that secures NHALS , have the coaches realize they need to retake control of play calling to rein in this crazy QB who values scoring over controlling the game with ball control and TOP and show everyone by getting their revenge win against that inferior team and THEN.... REALLY show everyone the importance of ball control by not scoring over 17 points the rest of the season and still winning....

Oops, I mean LOSING every remaining game, including another embarrassing first round playoff loss.

Now doesn't that sound fun

We do what we do.

Besides, no team creates situations to later be used as excuses like the Steelers.

[bradshaw2ben]

Rodgers would require less reps than Rudolph and Will Howard, but that does not mean it may not be in the team’s best interest to have AR on the roster by OTAs.

Ideally, Arthur Smith and the other offensive coaches are as dedicated to game planning as you have ire about their past performance. But it also makes little sense to think about orchestrating a progression of the playbook until the schedule is released.

No matter who plays quarterback, and what plays are installed when, the most important factor of all will be player execution. This year’s offense likely goes as far as the offensive line can progress.

Rodgers may not need the snaps, but there is zero doubt the OTHER guys need snaps with Rodgers, especially if they're going to play a different style/tempo with him on the field. It's malpractice to bring Rodgers in without giving the team the necessary time to adjust.

Players and coaches deserve time to get acclimated to a field general like Rodgers, but it’s also the case that many of the guys will have their experience with Russell Wilson from last year to draw upon.

Will Howard may benefit more than anyone from a later ARrival. It could allow an uptick in his involvement that may not otherwise exist. It’s also possible that Howard is going to get his reps regardless, and that Mason Rudolph’ll have to rely upon his vet savvy if AR comes through the door.

With a talent like Aaron Rodgers, locker room acceptance would be more important than practice reps right now. How is he received, how does he receive others? As long as his character does not get poisoned through media propaganda, the rest should work itself out.

If they are going to run the offense like they did with Russell Wilson, don't bother bringing in Rodgers.

[Obviously]

My prediction is that Rodgers gives the Steelers the finger because he knows Tomlin and Smith want to run a prehistoric offense.

[955876]

My prediction is that Rodgers gives the Steelers the finger because he knows Tomlin and Smith want to run a prehistoric offense.

Crossing fingers this is the case. These dipshits are hoping Rogers can get them NHALS and a token playoff appearance.

I hope he stays home. Don’t want him, don't need him.

[Deebo]

My prediction is that Rodgers gives the Steelers the finger because he knows Tomlin and Smith want to run a prehistoric offense.

Saints would be more appealing to him anyway.
But I still want AR here so he can tell Tomlin to STFU

[955876]

But I still want AR here so he can tell Tomlin to STFU

I’m on board if that goes down.

[.Kodiak]

I don't know. Based on his comments, Rodgers has used his superior skills of the intellect to determine Tomlin is a GREAT coach.

Rodgers may not be the savior we're looking for...

[Gonzo]

Rodger’s always says the right things until he doesn’t

[jebrick]

If they are going to run the offense like they did with Russell Wilson, don't bother bringing in Rodgers.

This x 1000

If you are not going to allow your QB to audible or not give him audibles that work with the personnel then no QB will work.

[.Kodiak]

If you are not going to allow your QB to audible or not give him audibles that work with the personnel then no QB will work.

But do you really need to change the play when all of your plays rely on guys winning their 1-on-1 match-ups?

Every play works if guys just execute. If the coaches believe that - and they absolutely do - there's no need to go changing the stinkin' play!

[steelmann58]

Will the 41 year old AR be allowed to call his audibles and will he be allowed to throw in the middle of the field? this has all the making of a classic joke of a season.

[Dan Smith--BYU]

Rodgers currently is attending to more current matters like weighing in on Egyptology controversies on the Joe Rogan podcast.

I can't disagree, it's more important than the Steelers.

I am deep in a rabbit hole about how much of conventional knowledge about ancient civ is wrong.

[CzechSteeler]

Will the 41 year old AR be allowed to call his audibles and will he be allowed to throw in the middle of the field? this has all the making of a classic joke of a season.

No and no. But he will call audibles. Throwing to middle of the field is allowed, if/when we have 8 wins and we´re looking for our SB, ie 9th win.

[Deebo]

I don't know. Based on his comments, Rodgers has used his superior skills of the intellect to determine Tomlin is a GREAT coach.

Rodgers may not be the savior we're looking for...

It's bc he doesn't know him yet.
After about 2 weeks he'll know what a fuckstick fraud Tomlin is.

[Stallworth16]

I never wanted 41 year old Aaron Rodgers. He turns 42 in December. It’s a fine age to be a suburban dad or a travelling fool, but a terrible age to be an NFL QB.

Tomlin left the path of reason when he benched Justin Fields, 25 year old running QB, just starting to win games and find his groove. We got a few good games from declining 36 year old, 5’10” Russell Wilson and that fell apart. Now they are chasing the past again with Aaron Rodgers, it’s insane.

The path of reason now would be to play Mason Rudolph and see if we may have found a gem in Will Howard.

[.Kodiak]

Rodgers currently is attending to more current matters like weighing in on Egyptology controversies on the Joe Rogan podcast.

I just can't reconcile this. How would officially signing change demands on his personal time? PIT wouldn't give him the time and space to attend to personal issues?

I think there's only two reasons he hasn't signed. He's either not fully committed to playing this season, or still hoping for a better option than PIT. Or he wants to skip mini-camp and OTAs.

Suppose it's possible he needs another month to resolve the personal issues. But it kind of sounds like OTAs are PIT deadline, but of course they have no real leverage. If Rodgers decides not to show up until the day before the opener PIT will, obviously, welcome him with open arms.

[W&M_Steeler]

Tomlin left the path of reason when he benched Justin Fields, 25 year old running QB, just starting to win games and find his groove.

Why do people keep saying this? Fields wasn't "finding his groove." Fields had two horrible games against the Cowboys and Raiders before he got benched. If it weren't for a gift from the refs overturning a horrible redzone interception in the 2nd quarter of the Raiders game, Fields damn well might have been benched at halftime in that game.

Fields had one good half against the Colts and an OK game against the Chargers but fell apart afterwards and basically sucked as a starting QB. As bad as Wilson turned out to be, he was still better than Fields. The Steelers FO must see things similarly, because they let Fields walk for basically peanuts.

[Stallworth16]

W&M, Fields is gone now, so it’s water under the bridge, but he was benched after a win at 4-2. He had a 94 rating and was learning on the fly. His running ability is a serious weapon, and he has a strong arm. Even if you are right, Fields is gone now. We can agree that the Russell Wilson experiment crashed and burned after a great start.

You didn’t address the main point of my post, which is that chasing 42 year old Rodgers is a mistake along the same line as Wilson. We should start Mason Rudolph and see if we have a long term QB in Will Howard.