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Post by LakecrestSteeler » Wed May 07, 2025 7:06 pm

Steelperch wrote:
Wed May 07, 2025 5:42 pm
Steelers are setting up to trade their entire draft for a QB next year.

All picks round 1-7 to move into the top 5. Then they will still have 5 comp/trade picks to use for extra players.

I’m for it. Fuck Rodgers or adding another WR. Ride Rudolph into a 6 win season and rebuild. Let Hayward mentor the young guys for one year then cut him.
I don’t mind the strategy, but I would not want to come here as a QB.

What about the Eli Manning scenario that we make this big draft capital maneuver in 2026 and the QB says the Steelers offense is a train wreck and a graveyard for QBs. GO FISH! If I was an agent, based on past behavior this plot could work for a QB drafted in Pittsburgh.

I really think they need to spruce up the complex and coaching personnel to have a better “total recruiting package” for this draft prospect.



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Post by Gonzo » Wed May 07, 2025 7:07 pm

you dont think sellers will come out early?

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Post by bradshaw2ben » Wed May 07, 2025 7:29 pm

StillerDownSouth wrote:
Wed May 07, 2025 6:43 pm
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Wed May 07, 2025 12:59 pm
After the fucking draft? Are you fucking serious?

I hate this goddamn team with a passion. NFL Ticket being cancelled immediately

I actually like it better now, makes them worse this year which should result in picking higher next year, double win in my book.
But it makes the Round 3 RB selection and the round 4 Jack Sawyer selection asnine in retrospect. They could have have Savion Williams or Dont'e Thornton + a perfectly fine RB instead of a premium pick on RB + Calvin Austin III as your WR2.

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Post by bradshaw2ben » Wed May 07, 2025 7:30 pm

Steeldrama wrote:
Wed May 07, 2025 5:28 pm
langer wrote:
Wed May 07, 2025 4:42 pm
Why did this happen now and not before the draft?

Did George do something bad? LOL.

What a trainwreck.
Sooo if the Pickens trade has been in the works for a while, WHY was WR completely ignored in the draft?

As Florio states his departure was imminent

https://www.nbcsports.com/nfl/profootba ... ime-coming

Is the Steelers organization that far gone?

Train wreck indeed

*Steelers passed on Texas stud Matthew Golden in rd 1 (I do like the Harmon pick)
*Steelers passed on B2B’s boy Savion Williams, a decent Tai Felton, a shifty Chamere Dike, and stud Donte Thornton for Caleb Johnson in a historically deep running back class.
*Steelers passed on Jalen Royals and Stanford stud Elic Ayomanor for a pine rider in Jack Sawyer (yikes).
*Steelers passed on Tory Horton for a 1 down run stuffer in rd 5…in a historically deep DT draft (Zeek Biggers in Rd 7 ever bit as good if not better Yahya Black).

To TB’s point, I’ll be glad the Steelers fucked this all up if it ultimately leads to Tomlin’s departure, but man this organization is struggling right now (appears to be par for the course for Pittsburgh sports teams).
This ALL DAY

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Post by bradshaw2ben » Wed May 07, 2025 7:31 pm

Gonzo wrote:
Wed May 07, 2025 7:07 pm
you dont think sellers will come out early?
Sorry, just plain forgot to type him in. Probably the best QB prospect in the land, if I had to pick one of them now.

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Post by anpsteel » Wed May 07, 2025 7:35 pm

Orangesteel wrote:
Wed May 07, 2025 2:30 pm
2022 Draft Class:

Pickett
Pickens
Leal
Austin
Conor Heyward
Mark Robinson
Chris Odulokun

That sets a franchise back another 3-5 years.

Please draft up Tomlin extension papers IMMEDIATELY
Fitting for Colbert’s final contribution

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Post by anpsteel » Wed May 07, 2025 7:36 pm

LakecrestSteeler wrote:
Wed May 07, 2025 4:00 pm
anpsteel wrote:
Wed May 07, 2025 1:46 pm
Thrillsseeker wrote:
Wed May 07, 2025 11:22 am


Shocked we couldn’t get a 2nd for him.

Again, I see this as more egg on the face of Fraudlin. Couldn’t reel in and get a talented WR in check.

This franchise is still descending. I wonder how much farther these clowns can sink us.
I think the league has wisened up to the Steelers ways in respect to trading for their cast off wide receivers

Plus, it’s abundantly clear that Pickens is an emotional cluster fuck. I’d go so far as to say there’s a 50% chance he’s out of the league before the end of his next contract.


He is so clearly unstable
Do we really know that though?

He seems that way, but I think most of us would eventually break when asked to run wind sprints all game as a distraction.

I bet he will be a major star.
He was an immature idiot in college

He’s still an immature idiot

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Post by anpsteel » Wed May 07, 2025 7:39 pm

langer wrote:
Wed May 07, 2025 4:42 pm
Why did this happen now and not before the draft?

Did George do something bad? LOL.

What a trainwreck.
They couldn’t get enough in return

aaaand

I imagine they were hoping Pickens would grow up, so they could utilize his skills for one more season.

Once it became apparent that wasn’t going to happen …

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Post by anpsteel » Wed May 07, 2025 7:41 pm

Steeldrama wrote:
Wed May 07, 2025 5:28 pm
langer wrote:
Wed May 07, 2025 4:42 pm
Why did this happen now and not before the draft?

Did George do something bad? LOL.

What a trainwreck.
Sooo if the Pickens trade has been in the works for a while, WHY was WR completely ignored in the draft?

As Florio states his departure was imminent

https://www.nbcsports.com/nfl/profootba ... ime-coming

Is the Steelers organization that far gone?

Train wreck indeed

*Steelers passed on Texas stud Matthew Golden in rd 1 (I do like the Harmon pick)
*Steelers passed on B2B’s boy Savion Williams, a decent Tai Felton, a shifty Chamere Dike, and stud Donte Thornton for Caleb Johnson in a historically deep running back class.
*Steelers passed on Jalen Royals and Stanford stud Elic Ayomanor for a pine rider in Jack Sawyer (yikes).
*Steelers passed on Tory Horton for a 1 down run stuffer in rd 5…in a historically deep DT draft (Zeek Biggers in Rd 7 ever bit as good if not better Yahya Black).

To TB’s point, I’ll be glad the Steelers fucked this all up if it ultimately leads to Tomlin’s departure, but man this organization is struggling right now (appears to be par for the course for Pittsburgh sports teams).
Receivers don’t add much their rookie seasons.

If you’re trying to do a win now, one season all in, drafting a receiver doesn’t add much

Just a thought

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Post by 955876 » Wed May 07, 2025 7:50 pm

jebrick wrote:
Wed May 07, 2025 5:09 pm
OhioSteeler wrote:
Wed May 07, 2025 5:07 pm
The "reports" that I'm seeing say that the best offer they received prior to and during the draft was a 4th rounder.
I heard the same.
When the world knows that this team will oblige bad behavior by trading the player other teams know it’s only a matter of time before we do so.

We lose a fair amount of leverage.

Keep the fucker and make him play in a co graft year.

This team is beyond dumb in most all that they do.
Jibba Jabber’s offense hasn’t scored more than 7 1st quarter points in 82 consecutive games. An NFL record by far. A historic amount of “easin in”. We are lucky to have him.

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Post by Steelcody7 » Wed May 07, 2025 8:02 pm

This is an incredibly stupid move, but may finally spell the end of Mike Tomlin. This team had a chance to field two number one WR's for at least one season which would have opened things up for the run game. Now teams only have one WR to worry about on a team without a quarterback.

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Post by CoolShades » Wed May 07, 2025 8:05 pm

.Kodiak wrote:
Wed May 07, 2025 2:42 pm
Orangesteel wrote:
Wed May 07, 2025 2:30 pm

That sets a franchise back another 3-5 years.

Please draft up Tomlin extension papers IMMEDIATELY
I've said it before. Tomlin inherited the absolute best possible team any coach could hope for in any sport. Without that, he's done in this league as a coach after 5-6 years and a couple of teams.

And he's going to leave an absolute dumpster fire for the next coach. Not a single assistant worth a damn (maybe Danny). And a handful of players, at best, worth trying to build a core and culture around.

Exactly. I don’t think people really understand how ugly it will be when he leaves. He’s left the cupboard bare and he’s destroyed so much of the culture of the team. It’s no longer a destination team, unless you are on your way out of the league and are looking for one more big check. It’s not a winner. It’s a joke. Still, he MUST go. It’s time for a complete reboot.

Sort of reminds me of the stories I’ve read when Noll was hired. He came in and took a hard look at the organization and stripped it to the studs and rebuilt. It only took Jibbs and a terrified Rooney to destroy what Noll built and Cowher continued.

I hope the next coach is like Noll, and comes in with a plan. A real plan, and starts dismantling this team. There will be a lot of coaching retirements when Jibbs goes, because no one is hiring anyone from this staff. He can then start removing a lot of these players like Baby Heyward, who have no business in the NFL, and others, like Watt, who can put up stats in the regular season with the best of them, but disappears every post-season like a fart in the wind.

I can’t believe how bad this organization has become.

The one silver lining? I’m hopeful that after Jibbs goes, he is arrogant enough to think he can succeed somewhere else and he goes there. He will never get a situation like the one he walked into in Pittsburgh and his Canton dreams may actually die. At this point, he is a cross between Barry Switzer and Marvin Lewis.
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Post by DumlinBumlinStumlin » Wed May 07, 2025 8:19 pm

Tomlin can't leave fast enough for me

He's a fraud and everyone is about to realize it
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Post by anpsteel » Wed May 07, 2025 9:11 pm

I think they are going to make some moves, which include signing Rodgers to a 2-3 year deal.

Pick up a veteran #2 (likely a trade, but not like last seasons fiasco)

a few other supporting moves

Draft the next franchise QB in 2026

Let him sit behind Rodgers for a year

Go all in for 2 seasons

2027 Art and Tomlin step down leaving the team to a new HC and Arts kid

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Post by Gonzo » Wed May 07, 2025 9:23 pm

bradshaw2ben wrote:
Wed May 07, 2025 7:31 pm
Gonzo wrote:
Wed May 07, 2025 7:07 pm
you dont think sellers will come out early?
Sorry, just plain forgot to type him in. Probably the best QB prospect in the land, if I had to pick one of them now.
i agree

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Post by K_C_ » Wed May 07, 2025 9:37 pm

Louis Lipps Service wrote:
Wed May 07, 2025 6:58 pm
K_C_ wrote:
Wed May 07, 2025 5:53 pm
Louis Lipps Service wrote:
Wed May 07, 2025 5:16 pm
Mike Florio reporting the Steelers are interested in Allan Lazard.

If true, not only are we signing Rodgers, but we're also signing below average WRs (of which, we have plenty) to placate him.
Lazard re-signed with the Jets.
I know. The Steelers are reportedly pursuing a trade.

Again, all rumors at this point, but it does seem to picking up steam.
Trading for Allen Lazard, whether Rodgers signs with the Steelers or not, is a downright moronic idea.

Gabe Davis was released by Jacksonville today. Go out and get him or go after the possibly washed Amari Cooper or Keenan Allen before trading for Lazard.

If we're going to trade for a receiver, I call Green Bay who has about 7 really good AND YOUNG wideouts after drafting 2 studs early 2 weeks ago.
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Post by LakecrestSteeler » Wed May 07, 2025 9:56 pm

955876 wrote:
Wed May 07, 2025 7:50 pm
jebrick wrote:
Wed May 07, 2025 5:09 pm
OhioSteeler wrote:
Wed May 07, 2025 5:07 pm
The "reports" that I'm seeing say that the best offer they received prior to and during the draft was a 4th rounder.
I heard the same.
When the world knows that this team will oblige bad behavior by trading the player other teams know it’s only a matter of time before we do so.

We lose a fair amount of leverage.

Keep the fucker and make him play in a co graft year.

This team is beyond dumb in most all that they do.
This trend all started with Bell in my eyes.

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Post by anpsteel » Wed May 07, 2025 10:02 pm

LakecrestSteeler wrote:
Wed May 07, 2025 9:56 pm
955876 wrote:
Wed May 07, 2025 7:50 pm
jebrick wrote:
Wed May 07, 2025 5:09 pm


I heard the same.
When the world knows that this team will oblige bad behavior by trading the player other teams know it’s only a matter of time before we do so.

We lose a fair amount of leverage.

Keep the fucker and make him play in a co graft year.

This team is beyond dumb in most all that they do.
This trend all started with Bell in my eyes.
Wait until the Jags try to extend Travis Hunter

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Post by tbsteel » Wed May 07, 2025 10:39 pm

LakecrestSteeler wrote:
Wed May 07, 2025 7:06 pm
Steelperch wrote:
Wed May 07, 2025 5:42 pm
Steelers are setting up to trade their entire draft for a QB next year.

All picks round 1-7 to move into the top 5. Then they will still have 5 comp/trade picks to use for extra players.

I’m for it. Fuck Rodgers or adding another WR. Ride Rudolph into a 6 win season and rebuild. Let Hayward mentor the young guys for one year then cut him.
I don’t mind the strategy, but I would not want to come here as a QB.

What about the Eli Manning scenario that we make this big draft capital maneuver in 2026 and the QB says the Steelers offense is a train wreck and a graveyard for QBs. GO FISH! If I was an agent, based on past behavior this plot could work for a QB drafted in Pittsburgh.

I really think they need to spruce up the complex and coaching personnel to have a better “total recruiting package” for this draft prospect.
Let's be real, a top QB in the draft would much rather come to an organization like Pittsburgh than the f'n Jets, or Browns, or Jags, or whoever the f else is always picking at the top of the draft. We haven't had a top 10 pick on our own accord since Plax was drafted (hopefully that streak ends this year).
*roots for losses*

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Post by Thrillsseeker » Wed May 07, 2025 11:13 pm

anpsteel wrote:
Wed May 07, 2025 9:11 pm
I think they are going to make some moves, which include signing Rodgers to a 2-3 year deal.

Pick up a veteran #2 (likely a trade, but not like last seasons fiasco)

a few other supporting moves

Draft the next franchise QB in 2026

Let him sit behind Rodgers for a year

Go all in for 2 seasons

2027 Art and Tomlin step down leaving the team to a new HC and Arts kid
I hope this happens.

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Post by Thrillsseeker » Wed May 07, 2025 11:15 pm

DumlinBumlinStumlin wrote:
Wed May 07, 2025 8:19 pm
Tomlin can't leave fast enough for me

He's a fraud and everyone is about to realize it
You think? That would be great and I’m all for it but the media machine has people thinking he walks on water. Ridiculous.

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Post by PennyBacker » Wed May 07, 2025 11:43 pm

The Pickens trade signals to me that Kaleb Johnson should expect to see a lot of carries, because the offense is going to move (once again) through the ground game.

Even if Jaylen Warren's touches go up, and I hope they can, it is important to remember how he did not look like his usual self this past season until Najee was back to being the primary running back.

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Post by anpsteel » Wed May 07, 2025 11:59 pm

Thrillsseeker wrote:
Wed May 07, 2025 11:13 pm
anpsteel wrote:
Wed May 07, 2025 9:11 pm
I think they are going to make some moves, which include signing Rodgers to a 2-3 year deal.

Pick up a veteran #2 (likely a trade, but not like last seasons fiasco)

a few other supporting moves

Draft the next franchise QB in 2026

Let him sit behind Rodgers for a year

Go all in for 2 seasons

2027 Art and Tomlin step down leaving the team to a new HC and Arts kid
I hope this happens.
My brain will do some incredible machinations, in efforts to find a positive outcome lol

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Post by steelmann58 » Thu May 08, 2025 12:24 am

The Steelers had to know they are moving on from GP and you just went through a 2024 without finding a true 2. And to boot you don’t draft a Wr at all. Don’t understand what is going on with this franchise

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Post by tbsteel » Thu May 08, 2025 12:59 am

steelmann58 wrote:
Thu May 08, 2025 12:24 am
The Steelers had to know they are moving on from GP and you just went through a 2024 without finding a true 2. And to boot you don’t draft a Wr at all. Don’t understand what is going on with this franchise

Half measures. They'll pay a shitload of money to Watt, probably will trade for some C- tier WR, and sign Rodgers.

They want to try and rebuild but can't fully commit to it.

All half measures are all half-assed.
*roots for losses*

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Post by shellwagnerblount » Thu May 08, 2025 2:04 am

tbsteel wrote:
Thu May 08, 2025 12:59 am
steelmann58 wrote:
Thu May 08, 2025 12:24 am
The Steelers had to know they are moving on from GP and you just went through a 2024 without finding a true 2. And to boot you don’t draft a Wr at all. Don’t understand what is going on with this franchise

Half measures. They'll pay a shitload of money to Watt, probably will trade for some C- tier WR, and sign Rodgers.

They want to try and rebuild but can't fully commit to it.

All half measures are all half-assed.
Mike would agree with you..
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Post by LakecrestSteeler » Thu May 08, 2025 2:30 am

cyberlaz wrote:
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For your viewing entertainment...

How Cowboys Fans Reacted to the George Pickens Trade
A stinger in the video…we got a 2nd round pick for Chase Claypool and a 3rd Round pick for Pickens.

Pickens was/is 10 times better than Chase Claypool was to that point in his career. We were fleeced.

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Post by CKSteeler » Thu May 08, 2025 3:48 am

anpsteel wrote:
Wed May 07, 2025 7:39 pm
langer wrote:
Wed May 07, 2025 4:42 pm
Why did this happen now and not before the draft?

Did George do something bad? LOL.

What a trainwreck.
They couldn’t get enough in return

aaaand

I imagine they were hoping Pickens would grow up, so they could utilize his skills for one more season.

Once it became apparent that wasn’t going to happen …
Eh...Pickens did nothing that we know of to spur on this trade after the draft. And according to media reports, he was fine accepting his role on the team for another year to my own surprise.

The reality is they just didn't get the offer they wanted until after the draft.

I don't mind the timing of it. I'd rather save that third for next year when they are taking a QB.

I firmly believe they'll fuck things up, but on paper they are doing the right thing loading up for next year.

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Post by CKSteeler » Thu May 08, 2025 3:51 am

LakecrestSteeler wrote:
Thu May 08, 2025 2:30 am
cyberlaz wrote:
Thu May 08, 2025 12:24 am
For your viewing entertainment...

How Cowboys Fans Reacted to the George Pickens Trade
A stinger in the video…we got a 2nd round pick for Chase Claypool and a 3rd Round pick for Pickens.

Pickens was/is 10 times better than Chase Claypool was to that point in his career. We were fleeced.
And teams learned their lesson from the Claypool trade.

If Tomlin couldn't handle PIckens, Schottenheimer's retarded stepchild isn't going to be able to do it. Regardless of how little I think of Mediocre Mike.

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