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Sounds like Watt is being shopped

Post by TimmayLake » Mon Jun 30, 2025 7:23 pm

ESPN reporting teams are making offers. I bet TJ is good as gone. Thanks for the good years, TJ.



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Post by gojira5150 » Mon Jun 30, 2025 7:28 pm

Hopefully these Dummies get multiple high round picks. They should be talking to Packers and Lions and get a bidding war going. Neither team would want TJ on the other team. Imagine TJ paired with Hutchinson. Packers would hate for that to happen and would overpay for Watt.
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Post by Steelafan77 » Mon Jun 30, 2025 7:33 pm

gojira5150 wrote:
Mon Jun 30, 2025 7:28 pm
Hopefully these Dummies get multiple high round picks. They should be talking to Packers and Lions and get a bidding war going. Neither team would want TJ on the other team. Imagine TJ paired with Hutchinson. Packers would hate for that to happen and would overpay for Watt.
Steelers, I'm sensing are optimistic they can reach a deal with Watt eventually," Fowler said. "My sense is that he will probably be the highest-paid pass-rusher in the league when this is all said and done. He wants to be a Steeler for life, the Steelers want that, he's a legacy-type player. They believe at 30 years old he still has several good years left. They're just gonna have to come up with a number and a good guarantee structure."

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Post by .Kodiak » Mon Jun 30, 2025 8:35 pm

I keep saying, without a QB to pay the Steelers can effectively trade some of their cap for draft picks by absorbing a large piece of Watt's contract via SB.

But I don't expect them to trade him before the season. That runs counter to NHALS, and recent moves where they clearly think they can make the playoffs and, well, that's a lottery ticket!

This is the problem with Tomlin remaining as HC. A new HC likely would have said "I don't have the players for what I want to do, and I don't have a QB....I need to get younger and accumulate some draft picks"

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Post by Louis Lipps Service » Mon Jun 30, 2025 8:40 pm

I don’t think there’s any way they trade him away, unless they truly can’t come close to making a deal.

Which is unfortunate. As much as I love TJ, I’d be head over heels if we ended up dealing him for some higher draft picks.

Replacing him with Herbig would be a downgrade, but one that would be well worth the cap savings in the short term, especially if we combine the picks we get in return with our current picks to get a QB next season.

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Post by SteelerDayTrader » Mon Jun 30, 2025 8:55 pm

Should’ve unloaded his choker ass years ago
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Post by TTP » Mon Jun 30, 2025 9:02 pm

The Steelers should be playing for 2027 so trading Watt would make sense. But, almost every other move they've made this off season seems like "win now mode".

This team is a mess.
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Post by Steelperch » Mon Jun 30, 2025 9:08 pm

Trading Watt doesn’t match the teams strategy to acquire a bunch of highly paid, over the hill defenders on a team that should be in full rebuild mode. They will just overpay him instead.

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Post by K_C_ » Mon Jun 30, 2025 9:26 pm

SteelerDayTrader wrote:
Mon Jun 30, 2025 8:55 pm
Should’ve unloaded his choker ass years ago
He's been the best player on the Steelers roster basically since he arrived.
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Post by Steel Ubaldo » Mon Jun 30, 2025 9:43 pm

Steelperch wrote:
Mon Jun 30, 2025 9:08 pm
Trading Watt doesn’t match the teams strategy to acquire a bunch of highly paid, over the hill defenders on a team that should be in full rebuild mode. They will just overpay him instead.
This. The team is going all in this year. There is no way they are moving Watt…0.0% chance. This is all contract negotiation fluff. Expect a new deal for Watt by training camp or maybe a day or two into it. I also expect a move for a vet WR. Parenthetically, I think they should’ve embraced a rebuild a while ago but they sure as hell don’t see it that way. NHALS is safely assured… 8-)

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Post by SteelPro » Mon Jun 30, 2025 10:21 pm

TTP wrote:
Mon Jun 30, 2025 9:02 pm
The Steelers should be playing for 2027 so trading Watt would make sense. But, almost every other move they've made this off season seems like "win now mode".

This team is a mess.
Exactly. It’s like they are having second thoughts on going all in to be pretenders.
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Post by K_C_ » Mon Jun 30, 2025 11:04 pm

Steel Ubaldo wrote:
Mon Jun 30, 2025 9:43 pm
Steelperch wrote:
Mon Jun 30, 2025 9:08 pm
Trading Watt doesn’t match the teams strategy to acquire a bunch of highly paid, over the hill defenders on a team that should be in full rebuild mode. They will just overpay him instead.
This. The team is going all in this year. There is no way they are moving Watt…0.0% chance. This is all contract negotiation fluff. Expect a new deal for Watt by training camp or maybe a day or two into it. I also expect a move for a vet WR. Parenthetically, I think they should’ve embraced a rebuild a while ago but they sure as hell don’t see it that way. NHALS is safely assured… 8-)
I don't doubt they are in win now mode and that the NHALS is all Mike Tomlin has, but who starts at free safety with Fitzpatrick gone?

That's a pretty gaping hole even though they definitely are loaded at corner.

The Watt thing.....I think the Steelers are waiting for a team to literally make them an offer they can't refuse.

Tomlin might be a moron, but Omar Kahn isn't a moron. If some team offers them 2 first rounders for TJ, the Steelers WILL move him.

Problem is, I don't think anybody is offering them 2 first rounders for Watt but maybe they're waiting to see how desperate a contender like Detroit, Green Bay or Washington get.

I don't think Watt will be traded but I sure as fuck didn't think Minkah was going to get dealt either.
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Post by SteelerDayTrader » Mon Jun 30, 2025 11:41 pm

K_C_ wrote:
Mon Jun 30, 2025 9:26 pm
SteelerDayTrader wrote:
Mon Jun 30, 2025 8:55 pm
Should’ve unloaded his choker ass years ago
He's been the best player on the Steelers roster basically since he arrived.
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Post by CKSteeler » Mon Jun 30, 2025 11:52 pm

K_C_ wrote:
Mon Jun 30, 2025 11:04 pm
Steel Ubaldo wrote:
Mon Jun 30, 2025 9:43 pm
Steelperch wrote:
Mon Jun 30, 2025 9:08 pm
Trading Watt doesn’t match the teams strategy to acquire a bunch of highly paid, over the hill defenders on a team that should be in full rebuild mode. They will just overpay him instead.
This. The team is going all in this year. There is no way they are moving Watt…0.0% chance. This is all contract negotiation fluff. Expect a new deal for Watt by training camp or maybe a day or two into it. I also expect a move for a vet WR. Parenthetically, I think they should’ve embraced a rebuild a while ago but they sure as hell don’t see it that way. NHALS is safely assured… 8-)
I don't doubt they are in win now mode and that the NHALS is all Mike Tomlin has, but who starts at free safety with Fitzpatrick gone?

That's a pretty gaping hole even though they definitely are loaded at corner.
They'll platoon guys at the spot. Maybe even look to move Ramsey there in their base packages. They'll move Ramsey around based on circumstance. I'm sure that's how Tomlin is selling this bullshit.

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Post by K_C_ » Tue Jul 01, 2025 12:47 am

SteelerDayTrader wrote:
Mon Jun 30, 2025 11:41 pm
K_C_ wrote:
Mon Jun 30, 2025 9:26 pm
SteelerDayTrader wrote:
Mon Jun 30, 2025 8:55 pm
Should’ve unloaded his choker ass years ago
He's been the best player on the Steelers roster basically since he arrived.
The best player

AT CHOKING
Yeah, at choking.

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Post by Thrillsseeker » Tue Jul 01, 2025 12:50 am

If Watt gets traded for a haul. Two 1sts or some asinine boatload of high picks, a 1st, two #2’s etc, I’d likely tear a shoulder attempting a cartwheel.

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Post by steelmann58 » Tue Jul 01, 2025 1:10 am

Then I would love to move Tomlin

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Post by Dan Smith--BYU » Tue Jul 01, 2025 2:46 am

Saying Watt choked away the Steeler's chance for a title is like saying Archie Manning choked away the 70s Saints' chances.
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Post by 955876 » Tue Jul 01, 2025 3:01 am

Thrillsseeker wrote:
Tue Jul 01, 2025 12:50 am
If Watt gets traded for a haul. Two 1sts or some asinine boatload of high picks, a 1st, two #2’s etc, I’d likely tear a shoulder attempting a cartwheel.
Until you see what Jibba Jabber does with those pics…

:lol:
Jibba Jabber’s offense hasn’t scored more than 7 1st quarter points in 81 consecutive games. An NFL record by far. A historic amount of “easin in”. We are lucky to have him.

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Post by steelmann58 » Tue Jul 01, 2025 3:38 am

Hopefully Tomlin will have no say in the next QB

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Post by Thrillsseeker » Tue Jul 01, 2025 8:20 am

955876 wrote:
Tue Jul 01, 2025 3:01 am
Thrillsseeker wrote:
Tue Jul 01, 2025 12:50 am
If Watt gets traded for a haul. Two 1sts or some asinine boatload of high picks, a 1st, two #2’s etc, I’d likely tear a shoulder attempting a cartwheel.
Until you see what Jibba Jabber does with those pics…

:lol:
Hahahaha. Probably true.

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Post by W&M_Steeler » Tue Jul 01, 2025 11:53 am

Dan Smith--BYU wrote:
Tue Jul 01, 2025 2:46 am
Saying Watt choked away the Steeler's chance for a title is like saying Archie Manning choked away the 70s Saints' chances.
Not quite. TJ and Cam were both on the field for the loss against Jacksonville and took part in that defensive collapse. That 2017 team was a real contender. They both did essentially nothing against backups in the 2020 game against the Browns too. TJ has been one of the Steelers all time best regular season stat machines, but he has only ever really had one good playoff game (Chiefs in 2021). Watt has been on some teams with bad offenses, but it wasn't always that way.

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Post by punum123 » Wed Jul 02, 2025 12:57 am

If he leaves I'll have to shelf yet another fuckin jersey. Next one I get will have changeable letters and numbers. Lol

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Post by beerbrother » Wed Jul 02, 2025 1:10 am

punum123 wrote:
Wed Jul 02, 2025 12:57 am
If he leaves I'll have to shelf yet another fuckin jersey. Next one I get will have changeable letters and numbers. Lol
Great Idea. Put on the Block letters and its a throwback.

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Post by steelmann58 » Wed Jul 02, 2025 1:17 am

I am looking at 2 NFC East and 2 NFC. North team

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Post by R_S » Wed Jul 02, 2025 1:47 am

Steel Ubaldo wrote:
Mon Jun 30, 2025 9:43 pm
Steelperch wrote:
Mon Jun 30, 2025 9:08 pm
Trading Watt doesn’t match the teams strategy to acquire a bunch of highly paid, over the hill defenders on a team that should be in full rebuild mode. They will just overpay him instead.
This. The team is going all in this year. There is no way they are moving Watt…0.0% chance. This is all contract negotiation fluff. Expect a new deal for Watt by training camp or maybe a day or two into it. I also expect a move for a vet WR. Parenthetically, I think they should’ve embraced a rebuild a while ago but they sure as hell don’t see it that way. NHALS is safely assured… 8-)
Herm Tomlin thinks he's got the 2015 Broncos type season in his future.

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Post by Steelafan77 » Wed Jul 02, 2025 3:19 am

steelmann58 wrote:
Wed Jul 02, 2025 1:17 am
I am looking at 2 NFC East and 2 NFC. North team
Watt will be expensive.

Not only will the Team trading for Watt have to sign him to a massive contract they’ll be expected to cough up premium draft picks.

The scuttlebutt across the grapevine is,…. has to be a 1st RND’er and either a 2nd OR 3rd RND’er depending on the Team’s draft position.

I’m guessing Watt is extended [at great cost] and retires a Steeler.

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Post by 955876 » Wed Jul 02, 2025 4:11 am

R_S wrote:
Wed Jul 02, 2025 1:47 am
Steel Ubaldo wrote:
Mon Jun 30, 2025 9:43 pm
Steelperch wrote:
Mon Jun 30, 2025 9:08 pm
Trading Watt doesn’t match the teams strategy to acquire a bunch of highly paid, over the hill defenders on a team that should be in full rebuild mode. They will just overpay him instead.
This. The team is going all in this year. There is no way they are moving Watt…0.0% chance. This is all contract negotiation fluff. Expect a new deal for Watt by training camp or maybe a day or two into it. I also expect a move for a vet WR. Parenthetically, I think they should’ve embraced a rebuild a while ago but they sure as hell don’t see it that way. NHALS is safely assured… 8-)
Herm Tomlin thinks he's got the 2015 Broncos type season in his future.
He’s a delusional fuck.
Jibba Jabber’s offense hasn’t scored more than 7 1st quarter points in 81 consecutive games. An NFL record by far. A historic amount of “easin in”. We are lucky to have him.

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Post by steelmann58 » Wed Jul 02, 2025 4:45 am

Hope they listen at least.

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Post by Thrillsseeker » Wed Jul 02, 2025 9:35 am

I was at a 0% chance Watt gets traded.

I feel like there is a small chance now he gets dealt. Although very small the Steelers media machine is out in full force. I do believe they’re just pushing a narrative to get Watt to fold and tell his agent to end negotiations and get it done so he can stay. Similar to the last negotiations.

I also keep thinking about how poor this team’s post season success has been and wonder if Watt himself wants to go to a true contender. Not impossible.

It’s also not impossible for a team to offer a deal they can’t refuse and ship him out of town. (Not sure if T.J. has a no trade clause) If offered a 1st and a 3rd as mentioned above, I would NOT take that.

I still think it’s a small chance he’s traded but not impossible. I would be shocked more than I was with Minkah being dealt.

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