The team completely sucks.

[anpsteel]

That they continue to put Keanu Benton at NT is just mind boggling.

I watching him get absolutely blown off the ball, on multiple snaps. As in, driven 3 yards backwards, immediately off the snap.

Just friking terrible.

[.Kodiak]

LMAO Tomlin talking about a "historic" defense and having the "players and the schemes" to be great.

Talk about hubris. Even TJ was regurgitating this like a useful idiot "we've got the schemes". Tomlin may suck as a football coach, but he would have been one hell of a cult leader.


LOL, so much faith in the "schemes". Based on what? You know the answer - from practice against our offense.

[AirRescueFF]

I was well aware they were the highest paid defense, but it's downright laughable that they''re paying their defense more than any team is even paying their offense.

....in a league whose rules continue to favor offense.

But yeah, let's throw it alllll into a DEFENSE to carry a team, and not even invested throughout itself.

[langer]

That they continue to put Keanu Benton at NT is just mind boggling.

I watching him get absolutely blown off the ball, on multiple snaps. As in, driven 3 yards backwards, immediately off the snap.

Just friking terrible.

I think you meant to say HISTORIC.

[Gonzo]

LMAO Tomlin talking about a "historic" defense and having the "players and the schemes" to be great.

Talk about hubris. Even TJ was regurgitating this like a useful idiot "we've got the schemes". Tomlin may suck as a football coach, but he would have been one hell of a cult leader.


LOL, so much faith in the "schemes". Based on what? You know the answer - from practice against our offense.

its not cultish -- its money. Tomlin decided a while back to ride initial success to as many pay checks as possible. That requires buy-in from team leaders who he essentially paid-off; removing competition from assistant coaches and bamboozling ownership with an illusion of success, relentless branding and deflection.

Heyward and Watt towed the line for new big contracts.

I sincerely believe none of the three of them care about winning beyond just a general sense of competing -- they wanted long term and increasing cash flow. Thats the Tomlin and Rooney way ... not the Steeler way anymore

[steelmann58]

These guys are so bad on defense it’s unreal

[Steelafan77]

These guys are so bad on defense it’s unreal

Member this one?

”We feel really good about the prospects of this group. We do. We’ve got to write that story. We’ve got enough talent, we’ve got enough schematics to do big, big things. When I say big things, I’m talking about historic things.”

Gotta go back to 1989 when the defense was allowing these kinds of points in the first two weeks of the season.

[langer]

They are at this juncture, incapable of being embarrassed.

Cam should be, that extra loot he pried from Rooney might never make it to his account.

But they are ok with it. This stupid assed quote from Coach T shows it. He says crazy shit but this one is really out there.

Is he trying to motivate his players with bullshit they probably don't believe, or is he trying to maintain his fan base?

If it's the former, maybe he does know they suck and is doing whatever he can to get them to produce.

The way he doesn't help them during the game might show that's not the reason.

[steelmann58]

Tomlin has no clue what he doing imo and Austin is a total mess who failed everywhere he stopped. I just hope they just don’t look just within.

[bradshaw2ben]

Giving up a 3rd and goal rushing TD wasn’t even mentioned because of a historic STs mistake and a mildly poor WR scramble drill route.

Giving up a rushing TD in that situation had basically never happened before in the NFL.

“No player had ever scored a TD on a run of 19+ yards in a 3rd or 4th and goal-to-go situation in NFL history, per @Stathead”

[steelmann58]

Tomlin completely creates new history all in negative ways

[jebrick]

If you look at the run chart in both games they are both doing the same thing. Running to the left. Almost all of the runs are to the left in both games. Teams are going to keep doing that until stopped.

[anpsteel]

Giving up a 3rd and goal rushing TD wasn’t even mentioned because of a historic STs mistake and a mildly poor WR scramble drill route.

Giving up a rushing TD in that situation had basically never happened before in the NFL.

“No player had ever scored a TD on a run of 19+ yards in a 3rd or 4th and goal-to-go situation in NFL history, per @Stathead”

That was one of the most pathetic defensive snaps, on the NFL level, that I've ever watched.

It wasn't a blown assignment.

It wasn't some freak of nature or lightning in a bottle-

It was a friking outside zone run that the Steelers were so effing inept in defending, the RB ran 19 yards, into the EZ, without being touched.

just pathetic

[jebrick]

Giving up a 3rd and goal rushing TD wasn’t even mentioned because of a historic STs mistake and a mildly poor WR scramble drill route.

Giving up a rushing TD in that situation had basically never happened before in the NFL.

“No player had ever scored a TD on a run of 19+ yards in a 3rd or 4th and goal-to-go situation in NFL history, per @Stathead”

That was one of the most pathetic defensive snaps, on the NFL level, that I've ever watched.

It wasn't a blown assignment.

It wasn't some freak of nature or lightning in a bottle-

It was a friking outside zone run that the Steelers were so effing inept in defending, the RB ran 19 yards, into the EZ, without being touched.

just pathetic

That they had been running all day.

[anpsteel]

Giving up a 3rd and goal rushing TD wasn’t even mentioned because of a historic STs mistake and a mildly poor WR scramble drill route.

Giving up a rushing TD in that situation had basically never happened before in the NFL.

“No player had ever scored a TD on a run of 19+ yards in a 3rd or 4th and goal-to-go situation in NFL history, per @Stathead”

That was one of the most pathetic defensive snaps, on the NFL level, that I've ever watched.

It wasn't a blown assignment.

It wasn't some freak of nature or lightning in a bottle-

It was a friking outside zone run that the Steelers were so effing inept in defending, the RB ran 19 yards, into the EZ, without being touched.

just pathetic

That they had been running all day.

I have no doubt.

with the exception of running to the right side, which the Jets didn't do, the Steelers weren't stopping much.

[jebrick]

That was one of the most pathetic defensive snaps, on the NFL level, that I've ever watched.

It wasn't a blown assignment.

It wasn't some freak of nature or lightning in a bottle-

It was a friking outside zone run that the Steelers were so effing inept in defending, the RB ran 19 yards, into the EZ, without being touched.

just pathetic

That they had been running all day.

I have no doubt.

with the exception of running to the right side, which the Jets didn't do, the Steelers weren't stopping much.

The Jets did it exactly one time and Watt stopped it. Then they thought, " Why should I run to the right side?"

[Orangesteel]

That’s an interesting way to make history…let in a rushing TD on 3rd and goal from the 19.

Even Tomlin surprises himself with the history he makes!

[steelmann58]

Art needs to clean house but he first needs to grow a set

[Steelafan77]

"I thought our defense wore down some, particularly as the game went on," said Tomlin. "We had the desire to improve our run defense, and I thought, particularly initially, we did. But there's an attrition component to the game, and our lines got a little thin at various points in the game. I thought we felt the effects of that. I know certainly we were somewhat limited with some of the schematics that we would like to deploy, because we have some new people in there and we're relatively new to this season. And so we weren't as good as I'd like for us to be in terms of our midstream adjusting. And so I'm excited about getting the collective back to work here with a six-day preparation cycle and effort to address some of those things."

What the fuck does any of this mush-mouth nonsensical horseshit even mean?

https://youtu.be/VcjrsYwy_3E?si=O5D3VsbgRH5Cb1k4

[Gonzo]

"I thought our defense wore down some, particularly as the game went on," said Tomlin. "We had the desire to improve our run defense, and I thought, particularly initially, we did. But there's an attrition component to the game, and our lines got a little thin at various points in the game. I thought we felt the effects of that. I know certainly we were somewhat limited with some of the schematics that we would like to deploy, because we have some new people in there and we're relatively new to this season. And so we weren't as good as I'd like for us to be in terms of our midstream adjusting. And so I'm excited about getting the collective back to work here with a six-day preparation cycle and effort to address some of those things."

What the fuck does any of this mush-mouth nonsensical horseshit even mean?

https://youtu.be/VcjrsYwy_3E?si=O5D3VsbgRH5Cb1k4

It’s maddening
But … it means … Not my fault …our Scheme is historically good and I obviously developed the rosters and players well … it the players inability to execute … I don’t know what’s their problem. Same old story.

[steelmann58]

Same scheme used over and over again and they get abused over and over.

[jebrick]

"I thought our defense wore down some, particularly as the game went on," said Tomlin. "We had the desire to improve our run defense, and I thought, particularly initially, we did. But there's an attrition component to the game, and our lines got a little thin at various points in the game. I thought we felt the effects of that. I know certainly we were somewhat limited with some of the schematics that we would like to deploy, because we have some new people in there and we're relatively new to this season. And so we weren't as good as I'd like for us to be in terms of our midstream adjusting. And so I'm excited about getting the collective back to work here with a six-day preparation cycle and effort to address some of those things."

What the fuck does any of this mush-mouth nonsensical horseshit even mean?

https://youtu.be/VcjrsYwy_3E?si=O5D3VsbgRH5Cb1k4

But only the right side of the defense wore down since they ran at it all day.

[RealSwiss]

What the fuck does any of this mush-mouth nonsensical horseshit even mean?

https://youtu.be/VcjrsYwy_3E?si=O5D3VsbgRH5Cb1k4

“Our defense started strong but wore down as the game went on. Being shorthanded and early in the season limited our adjustments. We’ll use this week to regroup and fix it.”

[955876]

I seriously hope this defense gets its shit pushed in each and every week. I want them flopping and flailing like dying cockroaches every time they step on the field.

Nothing tears down Jibbs more than his precious baby D getting exposed for the frauds they are.

[lifelongsteel]

Tomlin and Austin clearly suck. And it looks like the old guys might be slowing down.

But, to me the biggest concern is that it looks like the Khan/Weidl regime has completely blown the 23-24 drafts and 25 doesn't look so great either. (TBH the Steelers last good draft was 2017, but we knew how Colbert closed). We had all thought that these two were going to get the talent level back up. Instead:

- Jones a complete waste of a R1 pick. Probably not even a capable backup.
- They "stole" 1st round talents in R3 with Washington and Wilson. Both are training camp darlings, who so far have shown little. Probably because of their limited, one trick pony type skill sets. Turned out to be reaches, not steals.
- Benton a second rounder. Looked good as a rookie. has been trash since
- Kaleb Johnson and Roman Wilson as 3rd rounders? (per point above. that's 4 3rd round picks who are at risk of being complete flops).
- 2 players who looks to be above avg starters out of those 3 draft - Frazier/Porter. (Maybe Fautanu and Harman can hit)

This might be the least talented Steelers team since the mid 80's. And the fact that most of their plus starters are older . . . boy, this looks like a bad stretch is coming our way.

[.Kodiak]

But, to me the biggest concern is that it looks like the Khan/Weidl regime has completely blown the 23-24 drafts and 25 doesn't look so great either.

Let's wait and see how Khan/Weidl look with a coaching staff that can actually develop players and scheme to their strengths....and not overly handcuffed by a caveman, conservative approach.

[Jizz Mop]

If we didn’t have a HOF HC I’d start worrying

But we will be fine, he will fix things

[955876]

If we didn’t have a HOF HC I’d start worrying

But we will be fine, he will fix things

This. All day. Jibbs knows how to paint a barn red when he has red paint.

Can the same be said about Russ Grimm?

[langer]

I don't think Coach is a lock for the HoF.

They will have to tell some tall tales to shine this Tomlin turd and not make it look like he was handed everything.

I trust they can do that. Who would challenge anything about Coach T. He's a God.

[CKSteeler]

I'd like to point out that every team adds defensive FA's every year. I know the Steelers are relatively new to trying this whole FA thing, but the excuse that there are guys new to the defense (all seasoned vets by the way) is absolute horseshit.

And if these guys needed more time to gel, then guess what? Your stupid ass shouldn't have sat everyone in pre-season just because. That's what those games are for.

Nothing he's talking about is actually unique to the Steelers. Every team is dealing with moving parts and most teams don't have the continuity on defense that the Steelers enjoy. There were playoff games where Belichick trotted out WR's as DB's because they were so short staffed and he shut down some of the most potent offenses in NFL history.

Fuck Tomlin.