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As we head to week 4 possible trade

Post by steelmann58 » Tue Sep 23, 2025 1:03 am

I was looking around at teams that have started off bad starts. NYJ and NYG and Saints and Miami got me thinking if the Steelers should be calling anyone. I am still thing their a WR need and with Helbig play does that make Highsmith a bit expendable?



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Post by StillerDownSouth » Tue Sep 23, 2025 1:05 am

Hey I hear Dallas needs a pass rusher, just sayin. Lol

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Post by steelmann58 » Tue Sep 23, 2025 1:16 am

Think if 51 continues to play well just maybe we can find a trade partner

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Post by Steelperch » Tue Sep 23, 2025 2:36 am

why give away any draft picks for a team that is obviously going absolutely nowhere this year

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Post by Steeldrama » Tue Sep 23, 2025 2:39 am

Steelperch wrote:
Tue Sep 23, 2025 2:36 am
why give away any draft picks for a team that is obviously going absolutely nowhere this year
…. Or next year
….. or the year after that
……or the year after that
Etc
Etc
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Post by steelmann58 » Tue Sep 23, 2025 3:56 am

You never know what crazy guy will might want a pass rusher.

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Post by bradshaw2ben » Tue Sep 23, 2025 11:11 am

StillerDownSouth wrote:
Tue Sep 23, 2025 1:05 am
Hey I hear Dallas needs a pass rusher, just sayin. Lol
San Francisco just lost Bosa for the year. If the Steelers are 2-6 at the deadline could get a pretty good bidding war for Watt & Jalen Ramsey.

Ah, it's nice to dream.

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Post by jebrick » Tue Sep 23, 2025 12:10 pm

steelmann58 wrote:
Tue Sep 23, 2025 1:03 am
I was looking around at teams that have started off bad starts. NYJ and NYG and Saints and Miami got me thinking if the Steelers should be calling anyone. I am still thing their a WR need and with Helbig play does that make Highsmith a bit expendable?
7th rounder to Miami for Zeke Biggers. time to get a real NT on this team.

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Post by Charles Demarr » Tue Sep 23, 2025 12:11 pm

bradshaw2ben wrote:
Tue Sep 23, 2025 11:11 am
StillerDownSouth wrote:
Tue Sep 23, 2025 1:05 am
Hey I hear Dallas needs a pass rusher, just sayin. Lol
San Francisco just lost Bosa for the year. If the Steelers are 2-6 at the deadline could get a pretty good bidding war for Watt & Jalen Ramsey.

Ah, it's nice to dream.
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Post by Steeldrama » Tue Sep 23, 2025 12:37 pm

bradshaw2ben wrote:
Tue Sep 23, 2025 11:11 am
StillerDownSouth wrote:
Tue Sep 23, 2025 1:05 am
Hey I hear Dallas needs a pass rusher, just sayin. Lol
San Francisco just lost Bosa for the year. If the Steelers are 2-6 at the deadline could get a pretty good bidding war for Watt & Jalen Ramsey.

Ah, it's nice to dream.
That's a GREAT dream.

Watt isn't going anywhere (obviously), but should NHALS fall apart earlier than expected why not flip Ramsey?

No loyalty there.

No Yinzer uprising should he be dealt to a contender such as the corner needy Bills or Chargers

Yep

It's a sad state of affairs that coming off a win in Foxboro to start the season 2-1 we're already "dreaming" of trading off assets.

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Post by K_C_ » Tue Sep 23, 2025 12:46 pm

If there are any trades to be made, the Steelers will be looking to add players.

Not trade players.

I'm sure they've enquired about Chris Olave's availability and I think if Tyreek Hill's situation with the league was already figured out, he'd be a Steeler.
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Post by Steeldrama » Tue Sep 23, 2025 1:02 pm

K_C_ wrote:
Tue Sep 23, 2025 12:46 pm
If there are any trades to be made, the Steelers will be looking to add players.

Not trade players.

I'm sure they've enquired about Chris Olave's availability and I think if Tyreek Hill's situation with the league was already figured out, he'd be a Steeler.
I suspect you’re right given the importance of NHALS to Rooney and Tomlin

But

Weidl/Khan loading up on 2026 draft picks gives me a sliver of hope there is a working brain or two in the organization.

Adding a concussion prone WR like Olave on the last year of his contract or an expensive distraction like Hill doesn’t feel like a good idea to me given the plethora of needs throughout the roster.

Like many of you, I want NHALS to die and do not endorse burning draft capital for the now.

KC is right in that Tomlin will want players added not jettisoned but man I hope those moves are extremely cost efficient
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Post by K_C_ » Tue Sep 23, 2025 1:45 pm

Steeldrama wrote:
Tue Sep 23, 2025 1:02 pm
K_C_ wrote:
Tue Sep 23, 2025 12:46 pm
If there are any trades to be made, the Steelers will be looking to add players.

Not trade players.

I'm sure they've enquired about Chris Olave's availability and I think if Tyreek Hill's situation with the league was already figured out, he'd be a Steeler.
I suspect you’re right given the importance of NHALS to Rooney and Tomlin

But

Weidl/Khan loading up on 2026 draft picks gives me a sliver of hope there is a working brain or two in the organization.

Adding a concussion prone WR like Olave on the last year of his contract or an expensive distraction like Hill doesn’t feel like a good idea to me given the plethora of needs throughout the roster.

Like many of you, I want NHALS to die and do not endorse burning draft capital for the now.

KC is right in that Tomlin will want players added not jettisoned but man I hope those moves are extremely cost efficient
Khan, Tomlin, Rooney, etc. all know the Steelers need a QB and I'm certain they're taking one in round 1 next April.

That's also why they will be hanging on to their first, second and third round picks. Those absolutely will not be moved.

If they could have got Hill for a fourth rounder (and I'm sure they could have. Let's remember Miami is headed for an complete rebuild after this season) I'm sure Hill would already be a Steeler if not for the domestic violence situation that imbecile got himself into.

Olave is concussion prone, but he's also still pretty young and New Orleans is in the middle of a total rebuild. New Orleans and Miami will take whatever picks they can get for these guys.

That's why next year's first round is going to be very interesting. Several teams could be looking for first round QB's. Fields started well for the Jets, then played terribly against Buffalo and got hurt. He's not being paid a boatload of money so they could be in the market for a QB. Same with New Orleans who has Tyler Shough and Spencer Rattler (no teams fear either of these dudes) at QB. The surprise team, to me, is going to be Miami. You know Tua's coming up on his next head injury soon (he'll miss 4 weeks or so) and he'll probably consider retirement before this season is in the books. Even if Tua somehow makes it through the season unscathed, he still sucks and the new coach (after McDaniel is fired) isn't gonna be a Tua guy and who can blame him? Dude is about to have got 2 head coaches fired in 5 years.

There will be more teams looking for first round QB's as more QB's wear out their welcome.

The Steelers are going to need as many premium picks as possible to move up and get their guy, but you also know Tomlin.

Even though the Steelers aren't contending for championships, they are all about finishing 1 game over .500 and Tomlin is on track to do that again in 2025.
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Post by Steeldrama » Tue Sep 23, 2025 2:47 pm

No bigger Dan Campbell fan than me.

By far my favorite coach in all of sports

I miss that Cowher intensity and burning desire to win football games

Sonic and Knuckles powered by a quality OL beat the Rats at their own game last night (more delighted I could not be)

Your beloved Steelers (obviously) do not have an NFL caliber passing game (I’m looking at you Uncle Artie).

Those of you in win now mode should be pining for even MORE ground and pound mode like Dan Campbell’s Lions

Protect a bad OL (You SUCK, Meyer)

Keep Tomlins “historic” defense on the sideline

With Kaleb Johnson joining Roman Wilson in Tomlin’s doghouse there’s an opening for a “knuckles”

My transplant hometown Falcons are a dumpster fire after losing to the Panthers 30-0

Bruising BYU back Tyler Allgier inexplicably got one carry in that game.

Trading for that beast would be a subtle, cost effective trade that could really help what is ONCE AGAIN an unwatchable offense
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Post by bradshaw2ben » Tue Sep 23, 2025 3:39 pm

Steeldrama wrote:
Tue Sep 23, 2025 2:47 pm
No bigger Dan Campbell fan than me.

By far my favorite coach in all of sports

I miss that Cowher intensity and burning desire to win football games

Sonic and Knuckles powered by a quality OL beat the Rats at their own game last night (more delighted I could not be)

Your beloved Steelers (obviously) do not have an NFL caliber passing game (I’m looking at you Uncle Artie).

Those of you in win now mode should be pining for even MORE ground and pound mode like Dan Campbell’s Lions

Protect a bad OL (You SUCK, Meyer)

Keep Tomlins “historic” defense on the sideline

With Kaleb Johnson joining Roman Wilson in Tomlin’s doghouse there’s an opening for a “knuckles”

My transplant hometown Falcons are a dumpster fire after losing to the Panthers 30-0

Bruising BYU back Tyler Allgier inexplicably got one carry in that game.

Trading for that beast would be a subtle, cost effective trade that could really help what is ONCE AGAIN an unwatchable offense
This is a bit of a knee-jerk to last night.

I thought the two keys to the game were:

1. Ravens were without Madibuike, which is no small loss. They ran right at his replacement.
2. Detroit was bringing 7 guys on the pass rush, forcing the Ravens to keep extra guys in and blocking Lamar's scramble lanes. I'm dead certain Baltimore will coach up a fix to this but they had no answer to it last night. Even so, despite a critical fumble loss deep in their own end and all kinds of problems on offense, they were Lamar Jackson stepping out of bounds instead of putting his shoulder into the defender and forcing BAL to use a TO from probably getting the ball back with :30 and they're usual magic dust late-game miracle.

DET's offensive game plan is perfect for protecting a QB who is great when not under pressure, so if the Steelers draft Carson Beck, you're absolutely right that it's the strategy they should employ... but they need about 3 more RBs and a new LG.

DET also has something the Steelers will never have, which is a roster depth built on a base of years of not contending. They are incredibly deep at skill positions and OL. The difference between Penei Sewell at #7 overall and Broderick Jones at #14 is a gulf as wide as Sewell's wingspan.

Detroit had a stretch of 6 Top 12 draft picks in a row (8-3-7-2-12-12). The Steelers have never had a run like that-- closest they've come is 10-4-1-8-13, when they drafted OT Mike Taylor, then Joe Greene, Terry Bradshaw, Frank Lewis, & Franco Harris.

Jimmies and Joes.

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Post by Steelperch » Tue Sep 23, 2025 4:12 pm

Steelers are 7 wins away from tying the Belichick Patriots for 2nd all time with 19 straight NHALSbardi trophies. They will then be 2 seasons away from tying the record of the Tom Landry Cowboys. They are all in to win (9 games)over the next few years. No way would they trade away any players.

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Post by Steeldrama » Tue Sep 23, 2025 4:32 pm

bradshaw2ben wrote:
Tue Sep 23, 2025 3:39 pm
Steeldrama wrote:
Tue Sep 23, 2025 2:47 pm
No bigger Dan Campbell fan than me.

By far my favorite coach in all of sports

I miss that Cowher intensity and burning desire to win football games

Sonic and Knuckles powered by a quality OL beat the Rats at their own game last night (more delighted I could not be)

Your beloved Steelers (obviously) do not have an NFL caliber passing game (I’m looking at you Uncle Artie).

Those of you in win now mode should be pining for even MORE ground and pound mode like Dan Campbell’s Lions

Protect a bad OL (You SUCK, Meyer)

Keep Tomlins “historic” defense on the sideline

With Kaleb Johnson joining Roman Wilson in Tomlin’s doghouse there’s an opening for a “knuckles”

My transplant hometown Falcons are a dumpster fire after losing to the Panthers 30-0

Bruising BYU back Tyler Allgier inexplicably got one carry in that game.

Trading for that beast would be a subtle, cost effective trade that could really help what is ONCE AGAIN an unwatchable offense
This is a bit of a knee-jerk to last night.
Yes and No

It’s knee jerk only because it was an awesome beat down of the rival Rats

Hell no the Steelers don’t have the Lions studs

Few teams do

I would NEVER imply that

Never
Never

But it’s not knee jerk in that I clearly stated running the ball with a 1-2 punch was a way for the Steelers to cover up two of their biggest warts

1.) Their VERY UN-Lion like OL
AND
2.) Running the clock like the Lions did with a TEN minute drive keeps the defense which can’t slow down a broken PAT bus on the sideline

Shorten the game

Make it an even more unwatchable offense than it already is

Not for me

For NHALS!
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Post by jebrick » Tue Sep 23, 2025 5:38 pm

bradshaw2ben wrote:
Tue Sep 23, 2025 3:39 pm

DET also has something the Steelers will never have, which is a roster depth built on a base of years of not contending. They are incredibly deep at skill positions and OL. The difference between Penei Sewell at #7 overall and Broderick Jones at #14 is a gulf as wide as Sewell's wingspan.

Detroit had a stretch of 6 Top 12 draft picks in a row (8-3-7-2-12-12). The Steelers have never had a run like that-- closest they've come is 10-4-1-8-13, when they drafted OT Mike Taylor, then Joe Greene, Terry Bradshaw, Frank Lewis, & Franco Harris.

Jimmies and Joes.
This is something that the NHALS has gutted. Cowher would have his up and down years and pick up better players. No so with this bunch and then those last Colbert drafts. At least the Khan/Weidl pair have been smart to try to get maximum comp picks which is something.

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Post by Jizz Mop » Tue Sep 23, 2025 6:46 pm

I want to trade for a LT who can also serve as WR2

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Post by cop1211 » Wed Sep 24, 2025 4:46 pm

Trade everyone possible.

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Post by .Kodiak » Wed Sep 24, 2025 5:19 pm

Steelperch wrote:
Tue Sep 23, 2025 4:12 pm
Steelers are 7 wins away from tying the Belichick Patriots for 2nd all time with 19 straight NHALSbardi trophies. They will then be 2 seasons away from tying the record of the Tom Landry Cowboys. They are all in to win (9 games)over the next few years. No way would they trade away any players.
They are already tied with DAL at 21. This is the season they seize GOAT NHALS status!!!! And that has to mean a ton to Rooney, for some reason. It's really the only explanation for why Tomlin is still here despite recent, historically bad playoff performance.

Tomlin has the longest streak to start a career. He is 3 seasons behind Landry, who had 21, and one behind Belicheat at 19.

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Post by K_C_ » Wed Sep 24, 2025 5:53 pm

cop1211 wrote:
Wed Sep 24, 2025 4:46 pm
Trade everyone possible.
That's not the way to continue finishing over .500.
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Post by steelmann58 » Wed Sep 24, 2025 10:40 pm

You know the Steelers will finish in the middle of the pack

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